Some More Thoughts on the Rex Power Surge
Published: Thu, January 22, 2009 - 4:50pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chansi Stuckey, Joe Namath, Eric Smith, Rex Ryan, Super Bowl III, Damien Woody, Buddy Ryan
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01/22 — Damien Woody was one of the Jets players who showed up at the Atlantic Health Training Center on Wednesday for the kickoff of the Rex Ryan era of Green & White football.
Actually, the veteran tackle said he showed up late and didn't really catch much of the opening remarks.
"All I heard was one comment," he said. "Did he say something about 'If you take a swipe at one of ours, we'll take a swipe at two of yours'? Yeah. I like that."
Others on hand heard other things they liked a lot.
"He just exudes confidence," said wideout Chansi Stuckey. "He brings a different mentality. We're going to be a lot more aggressive on offense, defense and special teams.
"I'm excited," said safety Eric Smith. "He seemed real confident in his style. You can see the proof in Baltimore."
One thing that really caught my ear was something that Ryan's Ravens defense achieved this past season, which he offered up as he was letting Jets fans know they, too, will be pulling their weight on next season's defense.
"This year," Ryan said, "nobody scored more than 13 points against us at home, and I think that's the first time it's been done in 40 years in the NFL."
All true. Think about it. Holding eight opponents to 13 points or less — they also held all eight to one TD or less in each of those games. Sounds like maybe some other team did that, like the Bears of the Eighties, the Steelers of the Seventies? But no. The last team I found that equaled the Ravens' distinction was the 1962 Packers, who held their seven home foes to 13 or fewer points.
Here are the four NFL teams that held their opponents to fewer than 17 points in every home game in those last 40 seasons that Ryan mentioned (MPG–Most points allowed in a home game):
| Season | Team | Games | Points | Avg. | MPG |
| 1969 | Minnesota | 7 | 69 | 9.9 | 14 |
| 1977 | Los Angeles | 7 | 45 | 6.4 | 14 |
| 1977 | Atlanta | 7 | 62 | 8.9 | 16 |
| 2001 | Pittsburgh | 8 | 78 | 9.8 | 16 |
| 2008 | Baltimore | 8 | 80 | 10.0 | 13 |
One team not on that list deserves to be, and is on other lists of this kind: the 1985 Chicago Bears. They gave up 28 points in the first half of their home opener to Tampa Bay. Then over the next 7½ regular-season home games, they yielded 46 points and five touchdowns, and followed that up with two home playoff shutouts.
The defensive coordinator of that Bears squad was, of course, Buddy Ryan, Rex's dad.
It goes without saying that when the new guy comes in, he's got a great honeymoon because his team won't play for about eight months, at the expense of the former coach's regime. This transition game has been personally a little tough on Woody, as he explained.
"One reason I came here was Eric Mangini," said Woody, who played on some of the same Patriots teams that Mangini coached on before moving on to the Lions and, this past off-season, the Jets. "At the same time, I've been in the league long enough to know it's a business. At some point everybody moves on. There's always going to be change. I'm going to come in, work hard, do what I've been doing, and be professional."
But Woody can't escape the power surge that Ryan has brought into the building.
"I feel like there's going to be more energy," he said. "And I feel the players will be apt to speak their minds a little bit more."
Another element of the regime change is the loosening of the language barrier. Mangini began in 2006 with an embargo on the P-word: playoffs. (He loosened up the past two years.)
Ryan, on the other hand, mentioned the Super Bowl directly and obliquely several times and, at an informal Q&A with writers after the news conference, gave a short PowerPoint demo with the SB Trophy gleaming on the second slide.
"I've been a part of both styles," he said. "At New England, the focus was one game at a time. In Detroit, the first thing Steve Mariucci posted on the screen was the Lombardi Trophy. That's the ultimate goal, that's what you play for. They're two contrasting styles."
And both have won Super Bowls. The Patriots have three, the Ravens have one, and the Ryan family (Rex, twin brother Rob and Buddy) have six.
XL Years Later, Joe's Still Super
Super Bowl III MVP Joe Namath and Super Bowl greats Lynn Swann, Roger Craig and John Elway will all be involved in ceremonies at Super Bowl XLII in Tampa a week from Sunday.
Namath will be a part of the Lombardi Trophy presentation following the game. Swannie, Craig and Elway will participate in the opening coin toss. The players selected come from teams that won Super Bowls 10, 20, 30 and 40 years ago.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (64)Fish Hunters Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 8:01pm ET"Randy, any chance Rex would allow you to post that Powerpoint presentation on the site? Sure would like to see it!"
Randy Lange Said:
"Probably not that PowerPoint, Fish, but I suspect we'll have some other surprises in the coming months."
Ira Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 8:18pm ET"Randy, Once again you amaze me with the #'s you come up with. Those were some very good defensive teams. If Rex can get the Jets to hold their opponents to 16 pts or less they will win 10-11 games for sure. Boy would that be sweet. I really have a great feeling about Rex. He really seems to be the real deal and i can't wait to see him coaching on the field. "
Shanks Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 8:26pm ET"For Rex to be a JETS fan in his younger days, and to talk about super bowl in the next couple of years He better no what he's doing. I like how he's approaching his job but that could bite him in the u no what if it doesn't happen. Good Luck Rex hope it works out."
Frank Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 8:55pm ET"For all you guys who keep saying we should get Suggs forget the fact he is the last guy the Ravens will let leave...he is an OLB and we have a glut of those. We need an ILB and a leader Lewis makes the most sense for the reasons I already mentioned. There are several LB's Vrabel, Bruschi and a few others who were very effective as middle aged LB's Lewis has one or two good years left."
Jeremy Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 10:34pm ET"Thank the Lord---We have a new DC!!!! One that understands your players dictate what scheme and system you run. These guys are going to see what VG is made of, and if he doesn't have what it takes--see ya! Can't wait to see some coaches on the sideline showing some emotion. "
Vincent Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 1:05am ET"If you're a Jet fan you have to be excited about RR. Yeah, I've heard the tv guys ask what is so special about him compared to Cowher, Spags and so on. Well firstly, he's ours. Secondly, he's talkin' the talk in the Big Apple - and that's pretty gutsy. Then there are the comments like 'Well, everyone is hot for him, but they were for Mangini until they got couldn't wait for him to go' (cont)"
ricky infante Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 1:06am ET"i am so happy that rex ryan is now the head coach of the new york jetseveytime i get a new version of madden i have atleast made him my defensive coordinater..he invokes the type of defense that i have always played and admired..i hope he has all the success and support that he needs to bring another SUPER BOWL TROPHY to the better half of the NEW YORK FOOTBALL FAMILY...I CANT WAIT FOR THE 09 JETS"
Vincent Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 1:10am ET"(cont) Well, what other option is there, TV guys? If we rubbish him then "No one gave him a chance". If we love him, then "We did this with Mangini". Give us a break! We can't win either way! I say he deserves full backing from every Jet fan - I mean, if Woody is going to shell out $11.5mil, I don't believe he thought he was hiring a loser after so desperately wanting a playoff shot this year."
wheels Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 1:36am ET"randy, i'm live in Baltimore (gm transplant) but i love gang green. Wednesday was the first time i heard Rex speak, . . .WOW! i love his almost cocky attitude! How are we looking on cap room? . . got a feeling more than just coaches might be making the move from B.-more, Ravens players love this guy!"
Ira Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 7:01am ET"Fish, Rex already showed us his Power Point but telling us he will take the Jets to the SB. OK reports today say that Schotty is back. I am very happy and this really gives the Jets the best on both sides of the ball. It was critical to keep the offense side of the ball intact with a defensive minded HC coming in who has no experience at all with offensive coaching."
Ira Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 7:05am ET"I would go hard after Leftwich. He is their best option out there in case Kellen or Ratliff struggle. I want that 13 million to use on some FA's like Scott and maybe a few more lower players. If favre comes back oh well. I will root for him and hope they made the right decision. I can't see it. Either way GO JETS!!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 8:28am ET"Forget getting these guys from Balt.We have our own players.If anything,Peppers to replace Coleman,but we need a CB and a WR.Cummings ,Trunsnik or Spencer can replace Barton although I don't think Barton needs to be replaced.We need someone to step up when Jenkins gets tired or hurt.I think we can get one of those 2 corners in the draft,Jenkins or Davis.Trade Coles to Miami,Ryan can stop Chad."
Drew Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 8:34am ET"Frank...The Parcells guys he brings in (Cox & Fergie) are not big money free agents. They are hold the fort guys. Lewis will want a ton of money. I would much rather have B Scott and Leonhard than Lewis or Suggs. Suggs had 8 sacks and he rushes every down. Pace actually had a better year considering he was in coverage 1/2 the time. I have seen Suggs play alot and he is a little overrated."
uncle joe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 8:36am ET"I wonder if Ryan would lean towards Kellen Clemens,being that if it wasn't for Mcariens Clemens would have beaten Rex Ryan's Raven Defense."
Drew Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 8:41am ET"Dont get me wrong I wouldnt complain about having Lewis on this team but it would not be my first choice. I just think B Scott fits this team perfect and is a lot cheaper. Plus there are a ton of MLB in the draft....I am just happy we have a arrogant tough-nosed coach. His press conference is why I love this guy. A guy who appears to bleed green like I do."
uncle joe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 9:18am ET"I in no way want Farve back,I rooted for him only because I had no choice,he was on my team.I didn't want him to begin with & also wanted Chad OUT.There is nothing wrong with Clemens and I'm excited to see what Ratlif can do.FARVE WE DON'T WANT YOU,NO JETS FAN WANTS YOU BACK PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Reggie Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 10:05am ET"This is a new era for the Jets. Hopefully we can improve what we accomplish this past season."
Tim Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 11:32am ET"I am so tired of having a NEW system for the players to learn. The PLAYERS don't like having to learn a NEW system OVER and OVER again every 2 or 3 years. That is why I say KEEP SCHOTTY for the Offense or PROMOTE someone from the JETS Offensive Coach that ALREADY know the JETS Offense."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 12:25pm ET"Ira getting Leftwich might be a good idea as it will give our back-ups plenty of work & experience because Byron is always hurt."
beresford Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 1:04pm ET"Love the message to the fans. It would be nice to hear that there isn't a 'prevent defense' in the playbook. You have to play physical football outside in New York, like the Giants do. Hope they can pick up another NT to reduce the performance drop when Jenkins is nicked or gassed."
Ira Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:10pm ET"MikeMc, Maybe a fresh start would help Leftwich. He is still a big guy with a strong arm and probably the best available QB. I am not looking for him to be the starter but a veteran just in case the young QB's struggle. Collins and Warner are not going anywhere. I am hoping Kellen or Ratliff can show them something and become the starter."
Steve Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:19pm ET"I agree with you uncle joe, let's give our own qb's a shot for a change. Forget B. Leftwich and any other qb's on the down side of ther careers. If they were so good, they'd be with the teams they started with. I wasn't a fan of the Favre deal either and have been lobbying for KC and the others to get their shot for a long time now..."
Ray Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:48pm ET"I love what this guy has to say and bringing in a different DC was a top priority. So far so good. But this is not a quick fix, we have a brutal schedule next year. Let's not go overboard with our expectations in here. That's why we have all these eternally broken hearts. Next year could be a bit bumpy til he gets more of his guys in place."
uncle joe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 2:51pm ET"Randy,you are our link to the Jets Organization.Can you please tell Woody Johnson that nobody wants Farve back.Farve will not sell PSLs.Rex Ryan will sell PSLs.NO ONE WANTS FARVE BACK.Please Randy,help us,Please!"
Randy Lange Said:
"uncle joe, others who have posted this week would dispute your premise. However, you have stated your feelings on the matter and I know the Jets organization pays attention."
uncle joe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 3:00pm ET"Ira,you're a RadarAllStar but,Leftwich?Who the hell wants him?Theres nothing wrong with Clemens and potentially something special with Ratlif.Everyone keeps saying if Farve retires then the Jets have a QB problem,I think the only QB problem is if Farve comes back!"
scjoe Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 3:14pm ET"I hope Rex don't get caught up in the politics of the game, I hope he takes a long hard look at a few of the obscure players we have in place already such as, Ratliff, Clowney, Cummings, Murrell, and Trusnik. If Jets history has taught us anything, these players will excel somewhere else."
Fish Hunters Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 3:18pm ET"Rex, don't listen to the media. Turn it off, don't pay attention. Read a report the "fans" won't stand for taking a step back in adjusting to a new system. Not true dude. We just want to see our team giving 100% effort every play every game and being physical and aggressive. Same things you promised. That's our expectation. We know it takes a while to adjust to new stuff. Go D-REX!!!"
barbara Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 3:38pm ET"randy, do you know if they are planning on hiring HUE JACKSON, from the ravens, for the quarterbacks coach, he would be an amazing fit, REX knows that? do you know who they are considering? brett, 2009, looks good! everything is falling into place for a superbowl year! it feels like the kind of team you have been dreaming of."
Randy Lange Said:
"barbara, I have heard Hue Jackson's name. However, owner Woody Johnson stated on two New York radio stations Thursday that he believes strongly that Brian Schottenheimer will return to the Jets."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 3:40pm ET"Tim , Woody is saying Shotty will be here.If the players did their job & learned the responsibilities of the system they were being taught they wouldn't have to learn a new one every 3 yrs because the coaches wouldn't be getting fired."
Ira Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 4:11pm ET"unclejoe, They must bring in a veteran just in case Kellen or Ratliff can't get it done. I believe one of the two will end up starting but they must have a veteran in camp. Look at the list. There is not much out there. Carr,Leftwich,Grossman,Boller,Ramsey, Bollinger. That tells the story. I am pulling for # 5 or 11 to be the QB."
Kyle Christian Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 6:58pm ET"Bring in Byron and let him start if Brett doesn't come back. He has so much heart!!!!!!"
HDR Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 7:27pm ET"Yes, I vote for giving the QB job to one of the QB's we have on the roster. I know Coach Ryan is going to start fresh with his own QB.(Time to retire Farve)I just hope Kellen or Ratcliff or even Ainge can show this coach what he want's to see. Please stop chasing dreams with others' discards.Mr T hits alot in the draft so 1 of the 3 got to have something. My vote is KC but Ratti looks good too! "
Steve Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 9:44pm ET"The Jets will always have a qb problem if they keep fishing for has beens every year. Give the young guys we have a chance. Everyone worries about experience, but how does one get it if he watches from the sidelines all the time? Doesn't Flaco, Ryan and Cassell prove it can be done? Next season they will be that much better having had a full season of play under their belts."
cheps13 Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 10:16pm ET"HEY REX GIVE KELLEN HIS SHOT WITH OUR NEW LEGIT OFFENSIVE LINE ,HE DESERVES IT!..............MR JOHNSON PLEASE DO NOT HANDCUFF OUR NEW COACH WITH TRYING TO BRING FAVRE BACK!!REMEMBER WHAT KELLEN DID TO THE STEELERS WITH A BAD LINE???HE EARNED IT!!!!!"
SunriseHwy Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 10:18pm ET"You don't get where to where you want to be without first believing yourself. Rex Ryan is the most exciting coach (even better than the "I gotta go somewhere better Parcells") since I've been watching the Jets ( Mud Bowl season 82/83). Rex is going to bring us a championship, and if he can convince Farve to come back, maybe even next year. Green needed some Irish blood anyway. Go Rex! Go Jets"
sal Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 11:04pm ET"the offence rex has now even as it is is better than he is use too, im sure they will sure up the Rec corp, maybe move Ferguson to guard, and get a good replacement on the left end. Then he could concentrate on the D. If he can build to correct the last 5 games and losses to the gimme games, this team is lookin good. All the losses they had were lack of attitude and fire and some poor play callin"
sal Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 11:17pm ET"I hope ryan didnt keep shotenheimer as part of getting the job, if so this will be starting off on the wrong foot. is this something you or eric can ask? cant have coaches coach w/ their hands tied behind thier backs. call me paranoid, but I alway thought thats why parcells left, and bellicheck left w/ his resignation on srap paper.. Woody leave the team to the pros u pay,dont kill another year"
richard Said:
Fri, January 23, 2009 - 11:56pm ET"Uncle Joe I respectfully disagree. The Jets were 8/3 because of Brett. He was saked 30 time in the last 5 games and the "D" line allowed over 100 yards a game more than double the first half the season. Lets not forget dropped passes bouncing off our chest and a failed running game. How about punting instead of trying for a fieldgoal when you had 10 yards to spare the first time..."
richard Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 12:10am ET"....Everyone shares in the blame for the failure of last 5 games.Can we please STOP looking for one guy to pin it on. I for one would love to start 8/3 next season. In the last 6 games (when he gets tired) let Brett start the 1st qtr drives to put points on the board and mix in the rest of the boys. "DONT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER" Randy this is how the sielent majority REALY FEELS "
Rich Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 1:11am ET"Frank.... what do u mean we need ILB's??? Is harris not good enough for you lol. And as for uncle joe.... i dont know why u think u speak for every jets fan. even if i do agree with u it's not for the same reason. U DONT LIKE FAVRE BECAUSE OF THE LAST FIVE GAMES OF THE SEASON. every fair weather fan needs to be quite because its getting annoying. when we first got favre i saw NO negative posts!!!!"
Rich Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 1:14am ET"if i said the first five games is why nobody likes him anymore i meant to say the last five games. it just annoys me how everyone is a fan until they see the jets on a cold streak. COME ON JETS FANS THINK!!! look at the posts.... the defense went WAY DOWN HILL at the end. maybe this is partially because of brett leaving them constantly on the field but at least he tried to make stuff happen."
Hogan Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 10:37am ET"Everyone.....IT IS RATLIFF, NOT RATCLIFF. THERE IS NO C IN HIS NAME. NO C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Frank Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 11:34am ET"Oh really Rich and who do you suppose will play next to Harris? learn the defense and our roster before you make your comments."
larry r Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 12:40pm ET"I have been a jets fan since the beginning and before and the one man we as JETS Fans do not need back is Farve. He was one of the best but age has taken its toll and it is now time for him to retire. Let the young play and they will win for us. GO J E T S"
sal Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 12:47pm ET"I said it before farve came in w/ no training camp, totaly out of football shape and still had 9 winning games, give him one more shot w/ a full training camp eeven a year older, they will have a great shot @ playoffs, if he cant play a full season, he can coach up the back ups. this team will make the playoffs,. plain and simple favre ran out of gas, mangini should have did what Reed did in Phily"
sal Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 12:52pm ET"well shotenheimers back, so time to look foward, not a fan of him but they dont have to learn a new offence, "
Steve Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 12:53pm ET"If Favre returns, there is no guarantee the Jet's will go to a SB. Then what? He decides to retire and we're back at square one looking for a qb. Coach Ryan said he plans to emphasize the running game and an agressive defense and special teams. I believe KC has the ability to manage the offense so let's save the money for FA and draft picks. "
david Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 1:40pm ET"the first thing tannanbaum and ryan should do when free agency begins is go after ravens safety jim leonhard, this guy is a fantastic foootball player, please stay away from ray lewis."
Ray Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 2:51pm ET"I highly doubt Rex is worried about getting a "proven" qb in here. Look at Baltimore over the last 7-8 years. They are doing it with defense, a running game and a qb who manages the game. They never ask their qb's to carry the team. Just don't screw things up. We can do that with what we have now, without BF."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 4:52pm ET"Hey HDR, Besides myself, you are the only other one i see mention (Erik Ainge) maybe 1 other, & I think alot of people 4got about him - WHO CARES if Favre returns? If REX is the person/coach I think he is, it wont matter what QB is on this team, they will all get a chance & whoever produces in camp, gets the STARTING JOB - MAY THE BEST QB WIN..."
carmine rufa Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 4:55pm ET"I have been a jet fan all my life, and I am 41 years old. Us JET FANS just need something to cheer about. Can we please pick a couple of good drafts picks and maybe a free agent or two that have a real good year. Us JET FANS down in Tampa just want something to scream about. go JETS!!!"
footballlover Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 6:46pm ET"Every year I pick a team and watch them and read their web sites and fan blogs. I really love the Jets site. That said, I think the fans are really interesting. I went with the Jets because I wanted to see how Brett favre fit in the mix. He did well for a while, which surprised me because of lack of training camp. What I found interesting was when he was doing well, comments focused on the team .."
Footballlover Said:
Sat, January 24, 2009 - 6:51pm ET"Con't: When the team was going down the drain all the blame went to the QB. It makes sense because the high profile but why didn't he get the praise (in all fairness some people did) when you were winning. I would not want to be a player for the Jets. Maybe that has something to do with the "same old Jets". Mr. Ryan: Good Luck! Next year I will be with the Cardinals! Fans: grow up."
dflah159 Said:
Sun, January 25, 2009 - 9:16am ET"Brett ratliff is the future quarterback, he lit it up with sub par talent, imagine what he could do with the 1st team. I think he is our Tom Brady. I also think its great Shotty is coming back. Go Jets!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sun, January 25, 2009 - 10:21am ET"Sal you said to move Brick to left guard Faneca plays there what the hell are you talking about ?"
Jets Fan since '64 Tom Said:
Sun, January 25, 2009 - 4:45pm ET"Hey Rick R., I agree with you, I must be the one other who mentions Ainge and I've been doing it for months. Why draft a QB of such proven skills and then forget all about him? And then have to watch him star on another team? Could he have been that unimpressive in practice? I'm all for KC and Ratliff getting their shot too but let's stop talking about picking up over-the-hill veteran QBs."
Ray Said:
Sun, January 25, 2009 - 8:30pm ET"dflah159, the problem is Ratliff also lit it up AGAINST sub par talent. We need to have a qb competition next year and may the best man win."
dflah159 Said:
Mon, January 26, 2009 - 2:25pm ET"Ray your absolutely right he Rattlif did play against subpar talent, but if you look at his performance, he made all the right reads, hit his men with precision and zip, was able to run and avoid the rush and put up big numbers with 3rd string recievers. That's all he could do with his opporunity, Im not saying KC can't be good but i believe Brett R needs a serious look."
Ray Said:
Mon, January 26, 2009 - 3:09pm ET"I agree. He should get every opportunity to win the job next year."
cortland state Said:
Mon, January 26, 2009 - 5:20pm ET"we want favre to retire to save money and let the best qb in camp win the job. Because we need to run the ball next year and play GREAT defense. Right??"
longtrail Said:
Thu, January 29, 2009 - 1:03am ET"i hope rex knows what hes getting into"
gwinn1952 Said:
Fri, January 30, 2009 - 6:24pm ET"Everyone wants Brett to retire and let Clemmons and Ratliff take over......wow that's a backward slide. Hate to read all the bashing that will go on after we have a below .500 season. They'll look like Pennington did in the playoff loss. Bring back Brett for one more year, run the offense right, get some quality receivers, shore up the defense and bring up a young qb under Brett. "
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bart Said:
Thu, January 22, 2009 - 7:54pm ET"can he make the jets d as good as the ravens d? what will the offense b like?"
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