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12/31 — The New York Jets are searching for their 16th full-time head coach and their interview process will begin in earnest this weekend.
Both offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and assistant head coach/offensive line coach Bill Callahan will get their opportunities Friday. And then on Saturday, Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo is scheduled to visit with Jets management.
On Wednesday, Randy Lange and I got a chance to chat with Adam Schefter about the Green & White's coaching search on newyorkjets.com radio. The NFL Network reporter thought many media outlets had overreacted to the mention of Bill Cowher on Tuesday.
“There was never a chance that Bill Cowher was going to coach the New York Jets. It was all about him not wanting to coach in 2009 — nothing to do with Mike Tannenbaum or him being interested in talking to the Jets,” Schefter said.
“Bill Cowher was interested in talking to the Jets out of respect to Woody Johnson and Mike Tannenbaum, but he was interested in talking to him just to say 'Thank you very much for you interest. I’m not interested.' ”
But rumors persist and that's commonplace once the regular season reaches a conclusion. Schefter, who covered the Broncos for the Denver Post for 15 seasons, said that Mike Shanahan hadn’t been contacted by the Jets and nothing was imminent.
“I know some people have suggested that perhaps Mike Tannenbaum would be flying out to Denver,” he said. “This is the time of the year where there is a lot of information and a lot of misinformation.”
While Shanahan is considered a workaholic, the offensive guru doesn’t have any great financial incentive to get back into coaching immediately.
“He’s trying to figure out what is the best course of action for him to take in the future. He has three years, $20-plus million left on his Broncos contract,” Schefter said. “Why is there any need to rush into anything unless it’s the absolutely ideal scenario?”
While Marty Schottenheimer might want to make a return to coaching, Schefter said his name isn’t on anyone’s “front burner” at the moment and his son will get the family’s first crack at the Jets’ position.
“He is not going to step on or get in the way of Brian Schottenheimer’s career at all. So if the Jets hypothetically interviewed Brian Schottenheimer and made the determination that they did not want Brian Schottenheimer to be their coach and they were opening up their search to other candidates at that point — perhaps Marty Schottenheimer would get involved.” Schefter said.
Stay logged on newyorkjets.com for Jets coaching information throughout the holiday weekend. We wish you and your loved ones a safe and Happy New Year.
Up Next: Rex?
The Jets late this afternoon received permission to talk with Rex Ryan, the Baltimore Ravens' defensive coordinator/assistant head coach, for their head coaching position, but no interview has yet been scheduled because, of course, the Ravens will be traveling to Miami for an AFC Wild Card Game on Sunday.
Ryan, the son of Buddy Ryan and twin brother of the Raiders' Rob Ryan, has compiled a solid defensive résumé in his 10 seasons with the Ravens. He was an assistant coach on the 2000 Super Bowl champions, and the last four seasons he's been their DC.
His defense's overall ranking has been in the NFL's top six each of those four seasons (first in 2006, second this season), his run defenses have all been in the top nine (third this year), three of his four pass defenses were in the top eight (second this year) and three of his scoring defenses have been in the top 10 (first in 2006, third this year).
— Randy Lange
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (231)Sam Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:21pm ET"Like Brett FAVRE, DON'T believe the HYPE with Mike Shanahan! Shanahan is NOT a good fit for the JETS. Shanahan Broncos also lost there last 3 games to NOT make the Playoffs. And Shanahan has NOT made the PALYOFFS in at least 5 years. *(MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER)* has CONSISTENTLY built great teams and can spot TALENT."
Row Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:35pm ET"I don't feel a reason to be a Jets fan with Brian Schottenheimer at Head Coach."
Drew Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:36pm ET"I have zero confidence Woody is going to get this right. I was a Mangini guy but hes gone and he is not my coach anymore. I wish him well and hope he lands on his feet, maybe Cleveland where it will become NE #2......We need to get this right. Personally I like Shanahan. He might be dirty but its called gritty& smart when he's ours. Hell never get outcoached but will need a big DC. Happy New Year"
Bob from H.P. Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:40pm ET"We need an experienced HEAD COACH. This team needs a passionate leader who will instill confidence and structure. Enough of these Co-Ordinators - the press will eat trhem alive. Farve must make a decision and stick to it. If he wants to return he must be COMMITTED - his demeanor over the last 5 weeks was NOT one of a leader, but one of a person who was going thru the motions. "
scjoe Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:44pm ET"I believe the Brian Shott interview is just a courtesy, I for one, can not see anything he has done in his three years here that warrents him getting the job. How about going after Jim Johnson in Philly?"
Jeff Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:55pm ET"Cowher would have been perfect with his 3-4 defense backround, my concern is we get a HC who wants to run a 4-3 then we got to revamp the whole D again, when 2-3 yrs ago we had guys like John Abraham and Jon Villma, so I want whoever we get to keep the 3-4 intact since we finally got some talent to play the defense, but Mike Shannahan has got to be #1 on the search with his sucsess againt Bellicek"
CHEPS13 Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:06pm ET"WHY WOULD WE WANT BRIAN AS A HEAD COACH ,HE HASNT PROVEN HIMSELF AS A COORDINATOR!!!SHANNAHAN-SPAGNUOLO ARE PROVEN WINNERS AND ARE MASTERS OF THERE CRAFT .I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE KELLEN GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE WITH OUR NEW LINE HE HAS THE TALENT ...HEs READY!!!ALSO GIVE GHOLSTON A CHANCE TO PLANT HIS HANDS WITH (1) THING IN MIND ONLY ...RUSH THE PASSER!!!!270 POUND LINEBACKERS ARE NOT Dbs!!!!!!!!!"
bernie Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:08pm ET"being a jet fan for more than 44 years, i'm concerned that we can end up having to settle for a coach who is not on anyone's hot list. look at the past coaches. look at our history in the draft. fans, i've lived this longer than many of you have been alive. don't get too excited. i hope wrong, but jet history speaks for itslef"
Greg from Albany Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:20pm ET"I realize the pressure is on to bring a "brand name" coach in here; however, as I am contemplating a HUGE PSL (at least for me), I would much rather have a coach that is not going to dismantle what is already here. For example, change from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Spags is interesting and I can only hope that Woody and Mike make the right choice. I am sick of being middle of the pack at best."
mike Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 6:33pm ET"now that cowher is out, Jets have to go after Spagnuolo. Switching back to a 4-3 would not be that big of deal in fact it might be better. It is easier to move back to the 4-3 when Jenkins is still a DT, Ellis and Gholston at end, Harris in mid, Pace OLB. Jenkins played in 4-3, Gholston is a 4-3 end at Ohio, Harris in the middle. Sounds not bad especially if our 08 #1 pick can get playing time.."
fljetfan Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 6:34pm ET"I for 1 hope chad falls on his face against balt. i mean ill head for the nearest bridge if this guy wins another game. to much to handle. what is wrong with our franchise? how did this happen? cowher not coming is a bad sign. i cant take this anymore. all we want is 1 SB title. 40 flippen yrs!!! how are we not in the playoffs? front office thats how. this tuna gets the fish in 1st yr. why? why? "
mike Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 6:37pm ET"also now that reg season is over think about draft, trade away Coleman, Smith, Law, Coles, and Barton and build on draft picks. Sign a ball control QB and pound away with Jones and Washington and build on defense. We have "
fred from philly Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 7:28pm ET"Happy New Year everybody lets hope 2009 will be better for the Jets !Something tells me that a Schottenheimer will be the head coach- Brian! I think Mr. T knew he would be turned downed by Cowher but had to get that public & the plan all along is to hire Brian who may have a better locker room presence than Mangini & then hire one of the Ryan boys to build a much better Defence Crazy? Maybe not"
wayne Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 8:40pm ET"Considering Chad won the game that ultimately cause the change we needed, I can only wish him well.I am glad this team is going after men who are hungry to get their shot. Hopefully the choice comes from Spagnuolo or Ryan.....The only thing that would be better is if Parcells were to come in and bring one of these guys to coach...."
Frank Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 9:52pm ET"Mikey Mc glad you are on board with keeping Favre around only if he participates fully in the entire offseason program. We are a veteran team with maybe one good run next year and I think with a fully committed offseason he is the best choice. The other guys are young and can wait one more year. I really think Spagnuolo is the best choice with Marty Asst. HC and OC with B Shott Asst. OC, QB coach."
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 10:22pm ET"No matter who we bring in I want to switch back to the 4-3 4 guys have to rush the QB on every play Jenkins & Coleman at DT Coleman is 295 lbs & is a run stopper but gets no pass rush DE'S Ellis & Gholston MLB Harris weakside OLB Barton strongside OLB Pace our O is already loaded in the draft just focus on safteys, corners & WR'S "
sal Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 10:41pm ET"How in the world can Brian Shotenheimer be a candidite, that in itself is an inditment on the futility of football sense this front office has. With they way the offence performed the last 5 weeks seam like a setup for the posistion. all bloggers on this site was killing this guy, along w/ analyist both radio and TV on game planning , play calling, this season and last. What a joke. "
sal Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:17pm ET"Woody you want to sell some seats, and your psl, being thats your main concern, Marricucci and Farve Part 2, unless u can convince Holmgrin out of semi retirement, Thatll have a nice ring to it Holmgrin and Farve part duex , these high characture players you got laid down on you Eric and the fans, get rid of them, start w/ Rhodes, and get a reliable play maker at wide out. happy new year"
sal Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:33pm ET"fljetfan you want to know why, Johnson dont know or understand sports and athletes, he will do what steinbrenner does w/ the Yanks, bring in high profile players to fill seats, yanks won when the team was built within, parcells started it and wood y wrecked it. you cant buy chemistry, look at dallas, they cant be that ignorent, so that leaves this, This team will be watching next year unless "
Anthony Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:39am ET"i really hope brian schotty doesnt get the job. He is a terrible coordinator and would make a worst head coach. I honestly think he should'nt even be holding the title he has now."
Row Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:25am ET"I don't see anything wrong with Chad beating Baltimore. I don't see it happening, but there is nothing bad about it. I hope we get a serious DC and an OC who wants to run for first downs. I am tired of throwing a 20 yard pass for a 1 yard first down. We need smash mouth football, we are the Jets, not the Browns. Mangini will prove his worth in Cleveland, its time for a motivator... Whoever it is??"
Rick Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:45am ET"If we can't get Cowher, we should not have fired Mangini. What is Woody thinking? There doesn't need to be this much upheaval all the time. Hire Eric back at a discount for a 2 year deal, and tell him to keep his bags packed just in case. "
Furio Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:44am ET"B. Schottenheimer is the biggest reason for our demise and someone needs to open their eyes quickly and give him his walking papers. This guy's play calling, decision making, game planning, and inability to make adjustments during a game resulted in losses. Why did he consistently, on the 3rd and 3 or less, line up in an empty backfield and throw the ball? We have 2 Pro Bowlers in the backfield!!"
Drew Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:25am ET"Are there more respected players in the locker room than T Jones and K Rhodes? Both have taken shots at Favre this off-season. Especially Jones who clearly stated that Favre's play was awful and should have been benched. He also stated that maybe Mangini didnt have the authority to put the Legend on the bench down the stretch. Is Favre being on this team going to be a problem? Dosent look good!!"
Carol from Wisconsin Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:43am ET"Well, all the people on this web site all season long have been saying Mangini should be given the boot. They got their wish. Sometimes though, be careful of what you wish for. We shall see what plays out. Time will tell..."
anthony monte Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:47am ET" i wish we could get this coaching issue resolved asap i am tired of changing head coaches there is know chenistry with this team right now or the last three years with mangini we need someon to bring the players together we need someone strong minded to me the last three year where a waste with a unproven coach the only thing i heard about mangini was that he was the water boy."
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:01am ET"I wanted MR. T & Favre back but if they are going to stop us from getting the type of coach we need to turn around this team THAN I THINK THEY BOTH SHOULD GO the media is saying coaches are going to want to pick there QB & not have there QB picked for them & they either want to be the coach & the GM or they want to bring in there own GM if that is the case BYE Favre BYE MR.T we need a coach PERIOD"
Ira Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:36am ET"I can't see them going with a new HC who didn't have HC experience before. Did that done that. I still think Cowher is a possibilty. We will see."
Frank Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:42am ET"Drew stop with the sour grapes we all know you were a full fledged Mangini apologist and now you want to attack the team owner. Were is your Jey "Loyalty" he is the one guy you need to drink Green Kool Aide with since he isn't going anywhere. If Woody gets it wrong or you don't like the pick then make your negative comments...hope for the best. Happy New Year, Drew and everyone else!"
chris Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:57am ET"it was a bad move bringing favre to the team. his performance was horrible. now some experienced coaches may not want to coach here because woody johnson wants favre back next year. the jets missed the playoffs because of favre's horendous play. and inexcusable int.'s. Favre should have been benched and released on monday instead of mangini being fired. woody only wants favre around to sell seats."
fljetfan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:58am ET"how on earth can someone who's a "JET" fan wish chad well? i realize he is a class act, but every time he wins another game its making OURRRR franchise look more and more ridiculous!! hard pill to swallow"
Frank Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:06am ET"Amazing read with TJ shooting his mouth off and blaming Favre for the end of season melt down. He of all people was the major beneficiary of having Favre on the team. Does he forget how he stunk it up last year? How about the melt down on defense? How about calling out Jenkins who disappeared in the last half of the season. I'd argue that was a bigger problem than Favre. TJ will resent those words"
MikeMc Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:20am ET"Frank, one more thing on the Favre situation, this whole streak thing needs to end. I heard Thomas Jones said Favre should have been benched in that Miami game. I'm thinking he should have been set down a few weeks before & call it an injury, he doesn't lose face & we have a chance to compete. The new coach can't be held prisoner by a streak, as impressive as it is."
Austin Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:25am ET"Has there been any talk with Mike Holmgren? The Walrus might consider coaching one more time before his break if he can work with Brett Favre. Of course, we would need to know if Brett is even coming back. "
russ Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:27am ET"TJ was right on the Mark!!! He said what any player on a "team" would say after making horrendous decisions on field...Why is he still playing...The person who states that TJ shoots his mouth off never mentioned how TJ was picked as freeagent and given to OL until this year.. This is same Management that neglects DL as well... The Jets have NO future..."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:28am ET"Shanahan HC with Spags Ryan or Le beau DC won't happen but would be the fit ..I remember last season Thomas admitting taking off plays.. Why did we even let him play after that statement he showed up on less plays this season .. As a result I believe some of the others followed suit from there lack luster performance in the stretch it showed.. Time to get rid of these type of players "
MikeMc Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:35am ET"Glad to hear Rex Ryan has an interview. He's a very large imposing figure that has a great track record. I know he has interviewed for other jobs & hasn't been successful in getting one, maybe he is that intimidating. Good chance he brings his brother, who I think has no contract , with him. If Favre comes back we could keep Shotty & Callahan."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:43am ET"Cont. Perfect example on how this team evaluates & develops talent been saying it for a long time #6 VG can't get on the field #7 Mayo gets rookie defencive players of the year ... Go though the whole league & find plenty of rookies excelling this season.. Question can any 1 tell me the last rookie we've had excel in there 1st season if ever ? WE need a good evaluator & motivator no nonsense guy "
ann Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:47am ET"All you people have no idea, and need to zip it.. Brett Favre is the best qb in the NFL. It was Mangini with all his stupid plays. Come one.Go for a field goal on the 2 yard line. COME ON. Another thing Kellen needs to go. Brett Ratliff is a better QB. i am so sick and tired of Kellen. He needs to take his attitude somewhere else. "
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:54am ET"There it is in the face of adversity the character comes out in the men this whole team & staff is at fault period..But I will say this Favre's fault or not he took the bullet for these slackers all year never whined once about any1 or any thing & that's what makes him the class of this team bar none . They all need to take blame .. Now you know why there going home for the playoffs pitafull"
Jets44 Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:04am ET"TJ, relax with your comments in the press, Hey TJ how bout breaking a run over 25 yards every once in a while. I like to see the stat break down how many times TJ ran over 25 yards. LW should of been the starter period. Lets face it there are many backs that can run behind this line and gain 4 yards.Like it or not Farve is the best option right now."
Angry Jet Fan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:11am ET"I think Rex Ryan is a good fit. He is also an assistant HC. Better DEFENSE= WINNING TEAM!, You think Balti or Pitt has a better O then the Jets? yeah right. It all starts with DEFENSE, think about it, what great DEFENSIVE team in the playoffs has a much better O then the Jets?DEFENSE wins games!!! its proven!!! Keep the Jets offense the same, play calling hurt them, but DEFENSE killed them. PERIOD"
Frank Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:16am ET"Rex Ryan is not my guy even though he has been a coordinator for a long time he has been the beneficiary of great defensive talent with Ray Lewis and Ed Reed as well as a few others during his tenure. Spagnuolo had a whole lot less talent to work with and is significantly smarter than Rex Reed. "
tomahawk 4 Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:32am ET"Yep Blame # 4 that's arm chair quaterbacks do. What record did you have last year before # 4 ? What did Green Bay have and this year with #12. People realize its a TEAM sport and they're HUMAN and ALL THE TEAM MUST SHOW up. HALF of the Interseption where players other then #4. It's the name of the game and a coach with no emotions can't fire up a TEAM. yep its # 4 fault. Same old fans"
JC Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:39am ET"I want to know how Shotty can be interviewd for the HC job. He should be out the door as well, are you kidding me. By the way, fljetfan, OURRRR franchise has looked ridiculous for a long time . "
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:06pm ET"well if it was just TJ i would agree but Jones is not alone it seems many Jets players feel the favre resenment and whats with the sitting alone in the office stuff all about it seems looking at it now that maybe Favre was the problem.and that the coaches could not tame him just maybe 4was calling his own shots disregarding Shotty&Mangini,seems like the Jets have big Problems besides the HCsearch"
fljetfan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:08pm ET"this keep brett nonsense is nothing more that woody and T not wanting to admit they blew it. thats a shame. if you cant admit your mistakes you get left behind and you lose people such as Cowher. i wanted favre i admit i was wrong now adios amigos. yet another step backwards for our beloved jets. sure wish brien made that kick. jeeezzzzzz"
Ira Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:25pm ET"Everybody calm down. I would be shocked if Favre is back. His facial looks and body motions on the sideline were signs of its time for me to hang it up. He will retire and the Jets will move on. Frank, TJ had 1100 yds rushing in 07 behinfd no o-line. Even if Chad was the QB TJ would have gone for the 1300 yds he had and what i said he would have back last spring before Favre was even on the team."
Mike in NJ Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:42pm ET"Frank, How could you call out Jenkins? Did you watch the same games as me? Terrible play calls with the Jets rushing 3 left him double and triple teamed all game long. We were blitzing consistently when things were going good. Face it, Sutton ruined the defense the second half of the year. The talent is here for next year with the exception of our DB's which I'd like to see built through the draft"
OldRogue Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 12:53pm ET"@IRA: '...I still think Cowher is a possibilty (sic). We will see.' - Ira, I can't you believe you said that! SO DO I! Something is going on behind the scenes. But I wish the Jets had laid some groundwork, before they let Mangini go. All this constant drama at the Jets is making me sick - literally. Loss of appetite, can't sleep, etc."
Chris Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:01pm ET"i wouldnt mind having Brian Schottenheimer or Spagnuolo as the coach but i think having Marty Schottenhiemer as a coach is bad he is way too old and Rex Ryan would not be a bad choice either"
Gary in ClarkNJ Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:10pm ET"The way the Jets will ever win is if Woody Johnson ever sells the team. Wanting to keep Favre only show that his interest is in keeping PSL interest and not the good of the team. This season soured me as a LONG time Jet fan. Not the collapse which I've grown used to, but buy watching Woody's only interest in faking out fans to "think" he is all about winning. All he wants to win is your dollar. "
Southernlady Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:16pm ET"I have lost all respect for TJ and who ever the no name was that spoke negatively about Favre. For me it isn't about Favre, it's about your team. I don't care if it's true or not and it doesn't really matter what another team member does you should never speak out negatively about another member of your team, ever! What a disappointment and a disgrace. How does that help the Jets? "
Southernlady Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:25pm ET"All TJ and who ever else, did is weaken their own team. It doesn't matter if Favre comes back or not if TJ is going to do that to Favre he will do that to someone else. Mark my words regardless if Favre comes back a guy that speaks out against a team mate is a cancer to the team,always. It's kinda like a code of honor of which TJ either doesn't have or didn't show. How sad for the Jets and for TJ."
Mike Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:34pm ET"I'm stunned that Brian Schotty would be considered. The offense is Vanilla, predicatble, and simply not affective. Do you really want to see more of those WR screens that never worked, or double reverses that end up as turnovers? Terrible. I think the fans would revolt if he really got the nod. I'd take Hackett over him and that is saying something."
Joel Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:46pm ET"I guess Mr. Jones is the man now. Where was he toward the end of the season. If I was Farve , I wouldn't want to come back to a bunch of blame throwers anyway. What was the record last year? What did Jones do last year? Farve did have a torn ligament, he does try to win games when no one else is doing anything(Mr. Jones). Get rid of Jones and get Larry Johnson. "
Drew Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:50pm ET"Frank...where are my comments sour grapes? I think the Mangini firing was a mistake. I stated that Mangini never lost the locker room (where other sources said he did) now the leader of the offense ans defense took slight shots at Favre and defended the Ex coach. Plus your shot at TJ was ridiculous The improved O-line helped TJ as much as anything. He is also a quiet guy. "
Drew Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:56pm ET"TJ is also a huge team guy and is respected in the locker room. Dont you think he is speaking for the team more than just himself? It still amazes me that you minimize Favre struggles and awful play down the stretch. I know your a smart fan guy but you're lost on this. There will be more players making these comments.....It always comes out"
Drew Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:59pm ET"I am as loyal a Jet fan as there is. I am not attacking the owner at all. His press conference just gave me to impression he might be lost with this coaching search.I want a guy that will lead this team to a title. I dont care who!!! I am over the Mangini firing and ready to move on but its hard when all I read and hear is players (he apparently lost??) are taking shots at Favre and defending him."
Adam Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:12pm ET"Great posts everybody. Lots of great points. The guys with the planeed player subs fo rhte 4-3 have bveen spot on. I have no doubt that Harris would become a house-hold name in this system. Coaches. Great call on Ryan. REALLY a great call for Philly's DC. Everyone has great points regarding Favre. In the end, who among us was REALLY excited about Bret coming to the JETS?"
adam Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:18pm ET"I remember having a great deal of hope when we got Faneca, Woody and T-Rich. I knew Brick was improving, along with Moore and Mangold. I saw 2 TE with potential to catch the quick short pass. I thought, WOW their building a team for CP. We'll at least go 10-6. Then "THE LEGEND" came and everyone was tripping over themselves to buy a JETS #4. You should be ashamed, you only wanted a souvenir ."
SteveB Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:21pm ET"hey fljetfan,If you need cab fare to that bridge let me know I will gladly pay it for ya! Why would you wish that on a player that did nothing but put his career on the line for your pathetic franchise.Sometimes it takes something like that to make ownership see that they have a problem.By the way give Brett a call and see if he wants to try a double jump with ya!Happy New Year !! LOL"
SteveB Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:25pm ET"Frank,T Jones benefited from Faneca and Woody not Favre!Towards the end teams sold out for the run and let Favre thow because they knew he would eventually turn it over. Clearly the players don't want Favre back even Rhodes is talikng him down. I for one thought it was easy to see Favre was not part of this team from Day 1.It was all about him and nothing about team & it cost Mangini his job!!"
Yodi Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:27pm ET"I MISS CHAD!!!! CHAD IS THE MAN! GOOOD LUCK BUDDY IN THE PLAYOFF YOU DESERVE IT !!!!"
Steve Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 2:49pm ET"I have to agree with cheps13. I really don't want to see Farve return, and for that matter any other QB in the league that's at the downside of his career. Give Kellen the opportunity to develop. All you fans that bashed him get real. He was behind the worst OL in the 8 games he played. Could he have done any worse than Farve this year? He can do something that Farve can't and that's RUN!"
Damone Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:16pm ET"I hear everyone talking but nobody is talking about the off and def coordinators.They are not good at all!!Shotty,head coach.....YEA RIGHT!! "
Scott Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:16pm ET"All the Jets need is a coach with a little common sense, 4 & 1 you run it etc. All year long I've seen D-Ends standing straight up getting popped in the chest and hopping around off balance on one foot, rec dropping balls, OL missing blocks, and DB's getting burned. Football is not a hard game to play with a little talent and heart. This team has neither, just look at the Raiders pass rush."
R.M. Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:23pm ET"Woody Johnson might be the culprit. He let Bill Parcells the man who drafted Chad, get away. I hope Brett plays forever, and they get a proven winning coach like Shanahan or Holmgren whatever it takes."
ARealisticJettFan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:27pm ET"Brett stays. Shanahan comes in. We get a tight end. We get a middlelinebacker aka Ray Lewis type. A fullback in the Rathman mold, and we WILL be in the playoffs. Sorry , Clemens doesn't have it. Ratliff might. Favre didn't lose Mangini's job, the receiver core did. The defense did by not tackling and allowing pitiful touchdowns. Which forced Favre to take chances. Thats the truth..."
Ira Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:32pm ET"OldRogue, Believe me Mr. T and Woody just didn't fire Eric and have no plan in place. While in the public eye it seems like there is nothing there, they are too smart for that and had a list of potential HC's before Eric was ever let go. Of course guys like Shanahan were added so will others. Herm was let go 1/6 and Eric was hired on 1/17. I say within 10 days we will have a new HC."
mrmagoo Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:50pm ET"What a bunch of ingrateful babies,..these new jet fans are pathetic. How good were the jets and jones before favre? Give me a break,..you all saw how good clemmons was in preseason,..Let the other brett play if nothing else but one thing,..give favre a break,..4-12 losers"
cap123ny Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:55pm ET"I dont want Favre or Kellen or anybody else currently playing QB on this team! Go find the next Joe Facco or Matt Ryan! History being history we'll probably find the next Al Woodall or Richard Todd. Anybody got Ryan Leaf's phone number? Akili Smith?"
Big Ed Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:59pm ET"Come on guys. The game has passed Shanahan by. He really hasn't won anything since Elway. I personally don't prefer any of the Ryan's. They are crude. But I do want someone who's a proven defensive coordinator in the 3-4, and has passion. Eric is smart. But he didn't seem to learn from his mistakes. Farve - PLEASE don't let him come back!!! Let's go with our young guns. Kellen/Ratliff."
MikeMc Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:04pm ET"ann, Favre isn't even the best 39 yr old qb, let alone the best in the NFL.Bottom line is Favre stunk this year. Southernlady I agree you don't speak out against a team-mate, but I read a transcript from that T jones radio interview . T jones said Favre does not deserve all the blame, but after 3 int's he should have been removed.All the players need to be accountable for their performance."
John G. Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:05pm ET"Living in Gilbert, AZ, I read & hear analysis from far outside the NYC area. Media around the country act as if without Favre, the Jets have NO QB. Nada; Zilch! I believe Clemens still has promise and "DON'T FORGET" the OTHER Brett - Ratliff could be the REAL SLEEPER in all of this!! The jury is out on Ainge long term but who knows!!"
fljetfan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:17pm ET"Steve B, great post i laughed my rear end off. me and #4 right off the bridge. who do ya think will hit the water first? hey keep em coming, although you sound a little bit like these fish fans i gotta put up with here in fla. obviously ownership hasnt learned from their mistake with favre however. so you can throw that theory out the window. "
Rod N Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:19pm ET"i really have no trust in woody. there is no way in the world he actually thinks farve is the right man for the job. there is no way that entire front office thinks that. farve is not the face of this franchise, never will be. go get a qb along with a coach kc and ratliff r a start, have a wining season make the poffs and ull sell all those psl. sell the psl the right way, by having a winning team"
JoJoJet Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:24pm ET"Looks like TJ is turning into a TO. One person does not win or loose games. It is a team effort. If LW would have touched the ball half as many times as TJ, we would be playing this weekend. On Farve's interceptions. How many were deflections that should have been caught or wrong routes or miss reads by receivers. Farve took the blame for alot and never did blame anyone else. He is a team player "
Chirag Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:24pm ET"First off, good luck Chad!! 2nd Hope Farve doesn't return. And not to the article, WHY ARE WE GIVING BRIAN SCHOTTY A CHANCE AT HEAD COACH?? Unless there was internal politics that led to his poor performance, he doesn't deserve a chance. As a fan, I am not willing to see next year as a re-building season."
Southernlady Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:48pm ET"I am sorry but is this locker room in a high school or in the National Football League because there certainly seems to be a lot of little boys trying to play a man's game. If you are too chicken to say your name about what you say to the media perhaps you should keep your mouth shut!! It just angers me to no end. What the Jets' need is a strong willed coach with no tolerance for player bashing."
sal Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:52pm ET"TJ now well find out heplayers who laid down, Leon should of replaced you, he would of ran for 2,000 easy. while Im at it dont forget another bone head move Tatenbaum made by taking you over Derrick Ward. here some other notable Players they screwed up on, Fasano,Cutler,Ghosltston,Moss,Paslusny, If i did this for a living, id probably name a superbowl rooster they gave away or passed on, Parcells"
sal Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 5:00pm ET"Jones 1200 yards was a big deal when it was a 12 or 14 game season, dont let your head get to big, exspecialy w/ the offence u had behind you. ther was a time when no decent player wanted to come here, theyll be back to that before long, unless they chang direction quikly Hire either shotenhiemer this team will finish behind Buffalo 4th in div next year regardless who is QB. i was a TJ fan goleon"
sal Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 5:10pm ET"Chadwick dont deserve anything, he stunk last year was hurt all the time, if he played like this for this team, he wouldnt of been dumped. The fans deserved to win, but the team stopped playing after Tenn. Thats why mangini got fired. he should of benched Ellis, after his bust, and played Gholston every down(force him to play)benched Rhodes(stopped playing, and ring leader of the meltdown)"
George Scanlin Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 5:31pm ET"It's not just Favre, yes he did throw interceptions but, your offensive line didn't protect him either. Thomas Jones had a good season but he is a cry baby, if your going to cut Favre down, do it to his face and not on a radio talk show. Jones is a little T.O. Jets issue start at the top, you cannot continue to a quick fix. The Jets spend alot of money on the defense and it just didn't perform."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 5:55pm ET"Even if TJ & Kerry are right in what they say which I believe TJ OK but Kerry lol what a joke he couldn't cover my tupperware.. Should have acted like men & stood up & came forward long ago instead of waiting till it was to late .Not interested at this point to late .Now the chickens come out clucking after the roster is gone .. That's the answer in a nutshell no leadership no backbone wimps"
Drew Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:08pm ET"The Favre deal should be a 1 year experiment. It looked like it might work when we were 8-3 but everything including Favre went downhill after that. I cant see Favre learning a new system as I doubt B-Schott will be retained by the new coach so this project should be over. I do think a offseason might help Favre but at 40 is it worth it? Apparently Woody thinks so. What a nightmare this has become"
the real t.o. Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:31pm ET"clemens the lemon?? GIME A BREAK! DUMP FAVRE WOODY AND LET RATLIFF DO HIS THING! THEY DID IT IN BALT. AND ATL THIS YEAR. WHY CANT WE? SAVE THE MONEY AND LET FAVRE GO. CUT CLEMENS AND LET RATLIFF PLAY WHILE AINGE DEVELOPS. AS FOR COACHES; WE NEED DEFENSE MINDED NO NONSENSE COACHES LIKE SPAG/REX RYAN/OR COWHER. IF COWHER DONT WANT FAVRE THEN NEITHER DO I. WE NEED FRESH BLOOD AND A MAKEOVER"
vjmoney Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:34pm ET"Thomas Jones, thanks for saying what no one else has dared to say, it's the truth. Woody should have gotten rid of Favre not Mangini. Jets need to clear up the Favre debacle in order to move ahead. I don't blame Cowher for not wanting to come into this Favre mess and ending up like Mangini. "
The football gods Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:57pm ET"HIRE SHANNY GO GET A NEW D COORD. SAVE SOME FACE"
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:14pm ET"1st this so called source I think is made up by the media last year I heard the same thing out of Greenbay & Favres said I am 38 these guys are between 21 TO 25 my days of going out with the boys are over I dont have to go out with them to play well his daugther is 4 years younger than some of his teammates then they went 13 & 3 & if someone did say it THEY ARE A COWARD FOR NOT SAYING THERE NAME "
JETFLIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:25pm ET"it makes me laugh that these CheeseHeads are still lingering in the hallways just Admitt it Favre stunk it up and his capt. called him out.and to answer thecomment of TJ breaking a25 YD RUN THE GUY LEAD THE LEAGUE PAL,and no thanks to 4 thats for sure its ashame we did not get to see the jets run the ball much this year.go worry about greenbay the Favre days are over and he should step off already"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:30pm ET"and i hope they continue to call out Favre if he is not willing at his age to get with the program then get the hell out.like TJ stated it effects the whole TEAM.and we been through enough already we dont need his Drama. he should have maned up and sat a few games if he was hurt instead of throwing meatballs all month,funny cause who's the noodle arm now, chad is having his last laugh go figure"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:38pm ET"another thing about the where were we last season,same place we are this season out of the playoffs in QBcontroversy and now in need of a coaching staff, all because Mr. WONDER4UL,COULDN'T CONTROL THE MEATBALLS just do us all a favor BRETT and retire so we could put that subject to bed,was all for him till i heard that Mr teammate was actualy Mr. alienate no room for that attitude Mr Favre go away"
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:39pm ET"I have no problem with Rhodes saying we want Favre back if he takes part in all off season work he should take part in it to build chemistry & Favre said he would let the Jets know if he was coming back by the end of Febuary so there is no flip flopping he is letting them know right away DREW Rhodes is not the leader of the D he had 1 good year in 4 years"
jet jeff Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:49pm ET"DID EVERYONE SEE THE REPORTS HOW FAVRE ALIENATED HIS TEAMATES, DONT BRING FAVRE BACK IF WE WANT TO HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN, HIS DRAMA RUINED PACKERS AND JETS ."
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:55pm ET"I think Thomas Jones is so wrong YOU WIN AS A TEAM YOU LOSE AS A TEAM you do not come out in public & say things like that about a teammate if you feel like that fine say something to Favre or to the coach you do not bring that to the media he is supposed to be the leader of the O he may be a good player but he has alot to learn about being a good teamate his TDs would be cut in half without Favre"
Peter Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:08pm ET"Mangini did not get the best out of his players and he didn't trust them in game situations. SF, SEA games. Benching VG all year. Passive "no mistakes" D. HCs must motivate, he didn't. Can't blame Schott for last 5 weeks b/c you have all those BF picks and at times O looked great. We need motivator with aggressive D. Spags, Ryan, or Schwartz. Keep Schott and Callahan."
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:37pm ET"Instead of blaming Favre lets talk about GARBAGE coaching, WRS who could not catch a cold, D that could not stop a high school team, & a O line that gave up the 3rd most sack in the game could not pass block if there life depended on it & gave up 9 sacks in the last 5 games & let there QB get hit 22 times in the last 5 games "
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:38pm ET"HEY MAGOO AND SOUTHERN LADY give it a rest will ya,and 9-7 is just as pathetic as 4-12 whats your point? the golden boy couldn't get it done OK southern lady, he stunk up the locker room for 6 weeks like i said earlier if it was just TJ i would AGREE but there's a lot more then 1 and the resentment is in the air.Favre needs to go and give this team a break we dont need a 40 year old QB -"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:43pm ET"hanging around if he dont have 110% anymore he gave it the try 1 season turned out to be an embarassment for the HOF and he needs to keep his integrity and name intact and retire already. no one will fault him for that but his locker room behavior if true? what player would have faith in a phoney leader this whole favre thing has me sick. no wonder GB made the decision for him last yr."
BUSHES BAKED Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:50pm ET"LOL I AM GLAD THOMAS JONES SPILT THE BEANS"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:06pm ET"yeah i got to go with the real t.o i am not a huge fan of the kellen camp,he does nothing for me lets free up favre's13mill + kellens whatever he is getting wasted money if you ask me and break out the other Brett #5 in09 enough already,4 qbs this season and we stick with the one with the gimp arm.cracks me up we make fun of chad's noodle he's in the playoffs,and we get amonth of favre drama "
supercooljetfan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:07pm ET"alls we need is a tall stretch the field reciever like a plaxico or moss....also another shutdown corner and hopefully our new coach will give leon the ball more and let clowney play a little more "
Ira Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:12pm ET"Drew, Trust me Favre will not be back. This is a nightmare to all those Jets fans that say Same Old Jets. They will regroup and move on. This team has a lot of talent. You go out and get a QB to compete or who knows maybe Ratliff could be the next Ryan or Flacco. Add a tall WR, CB and pass rusher and a new HC and this team will be fine. Everybody calm down take a chill pill and Have a Happy New Year"
Tony Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:23pm ET"I agree. I've been calling Beningo on the Fan all week and I've been pushing for Raitliff to become the starter."
pri30 Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:36pm ET"***THOMAS WHO???***THE ONLY REASON I BECAME A JETS FAN WAS BECAUSE OF BRETT,SO WHO THE HECK IS THOMAS JONES TO BE COMMENTIN ON HIM???NO-ONE EVEN NOTICED THE JETS B-(4) BRETT ARRIVED NOW DID THEY...THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL SAY WHEN ALL THIS IS SAID AND DONE!!! AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTIN 2 ALL U JETS FANS THAT ARE BEING TOTALLY UNGRATEFUL...TEACH YOUR RECIEVERS HOW TO CATCH...JUS A SUGGESTION LOL"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 9:49pm ET"I hope they get someone of talent and soon seems like every team that fired the head coach is interviewing the same cast of coaches so WOODY please don't loose a winner to the browns or lions for crying out loud and why is Brian even a choice for the position he should have been giving the boot with Sutton even before you fired Mangini this is outrageous that Brian /Sutton are still employed,"
Frank Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:01pm ET"Several of you are missing the point about Favre. He came in 2 weeks before the season had no offseason conditioning program and no knowledge of the offense. All things considered he did a remarkable job the problem was he broke down as did Jenkins and a few others. The team is old with a lot of veterans he gives us our best shot next year if and only he participates fully in the offseason program"
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:02pm ET"I wonder if Favre is going to say to the media that Leon is better than Thomas Jones or that if Curtis Martin had Favre as his QB & the O line that Jones has this year Curtis would have 2,000 yards & 20 TD'S O yea thats right Favre would NEVER throw a teamate under the bus like Jones did to him."
Frank Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:06pm ET"Once we hire a new coach and I pray it's Spagnuolo let him and his new OC decide what to do with Favre. I do not want anything to do with a Favre circus and I think they all will make a decision quickly and when they do we move forward with or without him. Everyone needs to stop the nonsense about Favre being the one that got Mangini fired. He had 3 years and never improved as a coach."
NYSportsRule Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:11pm ET"We have a great team lined up, all we need is a coach who won't get pushed over. We NEED Spagnuolo as our #1 option, if he doesn't work out, Rex Ryan is the guy. How the hell isn't Brian Schott run out of NY yet? HE gave Leon maybe 2 carries a game if he's lucky. Worst play calling in Jets history and we're interviewing him for a HC job?!?! Give me a break!"
NYSportsRule Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:12pm ET"Now on to Favre. We need him OUT. All he does is turn the ball over, I was one of the only ones who said this was a terrible move from day 1. We're lucky we have an outstanding QB for the future, the REAL Brett the Jet in BRETT RATLIFF! IF we give him a fair shot at the starting job next year, I expect him to get it and not turn back."
sal Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:19pm ET"hEY TJ I GOT A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT WILL HAVE DINER W/ YOU/ GO LEON"
Anonymous Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:27pm ET"no superbowl, no psls. Just an fyi to the upper management thats how we fans feel. Good coaches dont want to come in here because of us fans topsy turby loyality throughtout a season, the over coverage in media, and the no say they get in management because of the upper management. Dont go by what you think is a great coach because obviously that doesnt work. "
SteveB Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:29pm ET"Hey fljetfan,Glad to see ya lighten up a little.Actually I am a 40yr Jet fan but would be have kinda turned in to a temporary Fin fan until Chad is through down there and Brett leaves NY. I for one thought we had made a real mov e this year until the Favre deal went down.At that point frustration got the best of me cause I saw this coming. Just avg. Favres last 5 yrs.&see what oh pro bowl brings!"
Anonymous Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:33pm ET"good coach has got to have experience in winning superbowls, be able to tell the media to shut up and stand up for his team, yell at his players if they make a mistake, and also play players to their strengths not to the system. To stand up for Favre, it seems the WR never finished running their routes and expected the ball to come to them as apposed to catching on the run like most good teams do."
steveB Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:41pm ET"fljetfan P.S You would be the only one to hit the water cause all the announcers and such would be standing all over you trying to save Favre but I'll throw you a raft if you promise to lighten on Chad.Bet you have had it tuff down there this year with all of the Fin success. I am afraid this Favre deal may sting for a while because of the cap,coach &QB situation. Mr.T needs to go also!!"
brettfavre1 Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:48pm ET"HMMMM A thomas Jones Comment After a Loss to the Eagles Last Yr.. As you see he changed his mind in one season... he better read what he said last yr,, Check out my next comments,, youll see!!!"
brettfavre1 Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:52pm ET"Jones, who averaged 5.4 yards on his 24 carries yesterday, would not second-guess the play-calling afterward. "I don't call the plays," Jones said. "I am not the offensive coordinator. If it's third-and-1 and my number is called, I will try my best to get the one yard. That is the kind of player I am. I am not one of these guys who would say it should have been this or should have been that. We win and lose as a team." "
Anonymous Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:00am ET"Benching Chad Pennington can spark Jets' season How much longer will Eric Mangini (below) stick with struggling starter Chad Pennington? The Jets desperately need a spark that only a quarterback change provides for what is now a lost season for the former Mangenius. They are one-year wonders after their surprising playoff run last year and have quickly reverted to the dreary days of the Same Old Jets Tuesday, October 16th 2007, 1:59 AM "
brettfavre1 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:03am ET"Check out more article news just from 2007 about the jets, hmm but brett gets blamed? Confusion for me to you jet fans and other commenters,,"
brettfavre1 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:17am ET"Brett Favre your the Best thats ever been and will be in my eyes!! Might have Interceptions, But Number one also in all broken records,,,if you do leave God really help the jets if clemmens starts Ive seen him play YUCK,, have to bring on Ratty!!! Give it One More Year, after all that Bs last yr,, Your new jets stuff I have bought, and you stay 1 yr,, NO NO!! Get with your boys,,make a mense,.HAng"
Carlito7 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:35am ET"Thomas Jones has it right Brett Farve has been celebrated for being great so long and when he messes up people give him a pass simply just for being Brett Farve. He should be held accountable just like anyone else on the team. This is exactly why Mangini was given some respect. He can't come back after this Brett needs to hang 'em up."
Carlito7 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:56am ET"TJ just said how he felt when asked a strait up question, I herd the interview as well and It wasn't as bad as the papers and the media outlets have edited up too be. He of all people has earned the right to make comments on the situation of the team."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 8:13am ET"I really dont have an answer to who should be HC after Cowher saying No but I can say the JETS need to make a big move on either drafting a BIG TIME QB, starting Ratliff or aggressivly seek Cassel because Clemens is only GOOD @ best (He hasnt done anything to WOW! anyone) & focus all on finding a young hungry WR or pay a good vet WR. (If there are any)"
Drew Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 8:28am ET"Spicer?? Did you say Rhodes had 1 good year? Come on now. Dont let Rhodes 2008 season cloud your judgement. He had Pro Bowl years in 2006 and 2007. Just to add I didnt like that TJ made his comments on the air but it is what I thought the players were thinking. TJ and Rhodes are well respected and usually quiet.....so when they speak I think they know what there talking about. "
Anthony Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:03am ET"Rex Ryan!!! Would be nuts if we got him. He can make a teams fear your defense besides that I like his resume. PLEASE DO NOT HIRE SCHOTTY. No offense his Offensive Playbook Stinks, he needs to be more creative in that area first before he is even considered. Spagnoulo, Ryan, Shanahan, these are three TOP Prospects you need to head hunt. These three men are all great candidates"
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:25am ET"WRITE THIS DOWN TO ALL OF THE GUYS WHO DO NOT WANT FAVRE BACK IF THE JETS DO NOT MAKE A TRADE FOR ANOTHER QB THEY WILL BE 5 & 11 AT BEST IF KELLEN OR RATLIFF WERE THAT GOOD THEY WOULD ALREADY BE STARTING "
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:31am ET"Unless Favre is going to stop us from getting a Shanahan, Marty Shott or another veteran proven HEAD coach with a winning track record never mind want him back WE NEED HIM BACK or forget playoffs we will be looking at another top 10 pick again DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO 4 & 12 AGAIN ?"
wayne Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:37am ET"Mike Shanahan has $20mill coming to him if he sits and does nothing the next 3yrs.So why would he want to come deal with this mess when he can sit pretty and wait for the best opptys.Why would any good coach want to come into this mess.TJ was one of guys saying how the players all liked each other.So was he lying then?The rats are trying to take over the ship.Get rid of all of them."
CEDRIC Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:44am ET"This is why i love IRA, he always keeps thing in perspective. Farve wont be back, thank God, i have no problem with what Jones said, he shouldve just said in the lockerroom. Notice now the team stuck with Pennington. Mr T. & Mr. Johnson messed up the chemistry in the lockerroom by bringing in Favre. If u listen to his last pregame speech that shoud tell u where his head was. Not with the team."
wayne Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:44am ET"Marty Schottenheimer is not going to interfere with his sons oppy to get a HC job either so we all better get use to the Idea that it's going to be 1st year HC because the retreads won't do and no good smart experience guys wants anything to do with this bunch.We better hope Spags or Ryan sees something worthwhile here.Why'd any good coach come.The inmates run the place.And that's Mangini's fault."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:44am ET"Seems T.Jones woke up the Favre faithful. I'm glad he said it , light is the best disinfectant.Pri30 & Brett1, there are 30 & 40 yr jet fans here, when this failed Brett experiment is over his jet legacy will be no more than Rick Mirer's.Frank you really need to stop defending the inept perfomance of Favre,it takes credibility away from some valid points you have made, blind loyalty to a fault."
GaryinClarkNJ Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:45am ET"Lots of Clemens ripping. Let me ask you all, who had a better OL Clemens in 07 or Favre in 08? I think Kellen deserves a chance to prove himself with a real OL. He and Ratliff should battle for the starting QB job next season. START FROM WITHIN THIS TIME."
CFU Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:47am ET"Wow so many of you are so fake. Most of you are commenting about TJ and bashing him and you don't even know what he said. LOL Pathetic just like your precious FAVRE. TJ has the most heart on this team besides Wash he earned the right to be on this team. TJ can say whatever he wants. Favre is one and done this year , so by by. E.Ainge will start next season and we will have Spags or Marty as HC."
JET4LIFE Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:50am ET"the dinner thing can go either way 21-25 loud dinners party's afterwards i can see 4 saying i pass, but he is not the only married man on the team he can have dinner with the boys and go home! the sitting in a special office what the hell is that all about?alot went on in the locker room that we no nothing of it's coming out because the truth is they may have made the P.O had they played a backup?"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:52am ET"I think Spags will want the Jet job because of his family & the close proximity of Philly. I think Rex Ryan would want the job because of the 3-4 Defense that has been built. Keep in mind though Spags uses multiple fronts, he prefers a 4-3 base & would want to rebuild.I'm not sure Shanahan would want the job at all & Marty(or Parcells)though very qualified & talented are short term answers."
CEDRIC Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:57am ET"I dont care how good your defense is, 22INT doesnt put the D in position to help u win, neither does the pick 6's. This is what i feared with Favre......Sorry you guys....HE'S DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Southernlady Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:06am ET"Jet4life, how about this IT'S NOT ABOUT FAVRE!!! It's about a guy that is too imature to keep his mouth shut and support his QB. That's what football is a team sport and TJ's job is to run the ball, not make QB decisions or to run his mouth. TJ has created all this drama about Brett but when Brett leaves he will create it about someone else. THAT'S THE POINT!! It's a cancer to his team. "
Frank Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:14am ET"Spicer you make excellent points tying into what I said all along. The entire system right down the line starting with Mangini was the problem. Favre took a beating that very few let alone a 39 year old QB could have taken. TJ is anything but a "Teammate" he will regret what he said this guy as a high draft pick has been a career under-acheiver and should keep his mouth shut. He loses respect here"
wayne Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:16am ET"Kerry Rhodes didn't show up to play this year.The only yr that matters in football is the present one.Unless you're his agent.Want to see what impact players do?Look to Palomaolu,Reed,Dawkins.He's holding DB meetings at his place to improve DB play.How'd that work out?.We don't need politicians, we need players that show up sunday not talk.Why'd any really good coach want to come here?"
Southernlady Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:21am ET"The next thing TJ is going to say is Brett stole his girlfriend.Give me a break.Why doesn't TJ focus on his playing and leave everyone else's job to everyone else?And it's not that everyone else didn't have the courage to speak out it's that they had more respect,for everyone else on this team.Brett doesn't get up there and bash all the dropped passes or poor defense because it doesn't matter. "
Peter Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:32am ET"Give **(RATLIFF)** a chance! You people want CASSEL? CASSEL is also a (BACK UP) who got a chance to play and didn't look that good in his 1ST 3 to 4 games. And CASSEL is helped by the NE, BELICHICK system! And y spend money on a DRAFT QB who NEVER had a NFL snap and will take 2 or 3 yrs to develop. Give **(RATLIFF)** a chance!"
Southernlady Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:41am ET"Jet4life,why do you have to insult Cheesehead fans now Jet Fans?What difference does it make how they got there as long as they are Jet fans? It's ok to have different opinions no matter how long you have been a Jet fan. I have no problem with TJ having issues with Brett but voice them to the Coach or management but not to the media where it causes this drama throughout the team."
greenladyfromCNY Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 11:07am ET"a note to TJ....you are a disappointment to me and the same goes for the "anonymous player"!! I am certain you are not happy with a losing season and/or the Firing of Eric Mangini! However, now is the time to end the slicing and dicing of Favre, etc. stick together and work as a cohesive team towards a better, winning 2009 team! Get rid of the dessention among the rangs and the soap opera attitude"
Sindrew Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 11:20am ET"Randy, could you please address the Brett Favre situation. It's all over ESPN and I am sure there is some misinformation. But if Brett isn't a team player then it needs to be addressed. I do think Mangini FAILED as a coach because he did not or was not able to temper resentment against Brett over Chad's dismissal. Than in and of itself deserves being fired. "
THE REAL T.O. Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 11:51am ET"ill give favre credit for makin something out of a tough situation when he came in here but i got an idea. since woodys so stuck on him being here, ALTERNATE!!!! ratliff one game, favre the next . or switch it up erraticly. make teams wonder whos starting this week. favre obviously cant last the whole season anymore. it gets cold and then so does he; give him rest and let ratty get some snaps then"
JET4LIFE Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 11:54am ET"lets get the facts correct TJ didn't' rip favre he stated the obvious. nothing malicious was said,the fact is favre played horrible he should have been grounded!! the last 5 weeks were horrible,Favre WAS A GREAT PLAYER he is not the athlete he use to be,I think alot of people are tired of the Favre Drama and this is one excuse to talk about the reality of Favre's days being over. THE MEDIA SPIN"
PaulinCT Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:09pm ET"I want Spagnuolo! I've never been a fan of the 3-4 defense so I'd like someone to turn the Jets back to 4-3 (and it would be easy, move Thomas and Pace back to DE, draft or sign an LB, start Mosely at DT next to Jenkins, and they're set). Rex Ryan, however, would run a good 3-4. Overall, though, I'd prefer Spags."
tonyb Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:34pm ET"Because T.J. said how other people felt now he s a bad guy? I was astonished to see some of the things I saw from a guy who s no doubt a first ballot hall of famer.By being the Q.B. you get a lot of the credit when u win and most of the blame when u lose.After the int. did anyone notice that T.J. had to be restrained on the sidelines from trying to get at Brett? Im sure when he spoke it wasnt only"
Larry Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:38pm ET"You guys are all not seeing the big picture with Favre. Its not about what he did or didnt do this year. Its about the what ifs. What if he practices and decides to RETIRE 2 weeks before the season. What if he gets injured in pre or early season. What if he just decides hes done in 2 months. WE NEED TO HAVE A QB NOW THAT WE KNOW WE CAN COUNT ON BEING THERE FOR US WEEK 1. A 39 YR QB ISNT THE FUTURE"
Wanna Win Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 1:32pm ET"If Schotty is the pick, then his son has to stay. I say stay away from them both and go with Spagnola and Schiano. Yes, Schiano from Rutgers. Two young guys that can make some changes and who will stick around. Randy, your thoughts?????????"
Randy Lange Said:
"Wanna, I'm a big Rutgers fan. Other than that, I have no comment."
Hogan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:04pm ET"TJ is the true leader of this team period. If you dont get what he was saying you are not intelligent or blinded by youre love of Favre. Also calm down. They only publickly want Farve to not be the team that pushed him out. The new coach will get final decition(thats been said)."
Damone Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:05pm ET"Hey Drew,Ira,Frank,Mikemc and Spicer.I'm going to go T.J on Hot 97(flip) on all of these Brett Favre fans that have came to this website.All of you guys were not Real Jet fans so dont talk about all of us when we tell you the truth about Favre.We know our team better than you guys that have just came on board for Favre's last ride.It's not all his fault but he completely fell apart.THATS RIGHT! "
Damone Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:07pm ET"We need better coaches and a better QB.Yes i said it A BETTER QB!!"
Neil Bruce Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:11pm ET"Cowher was over rated. He is not the answer and was never interested in coaching here. Shanny has no motivation. Its Rex Ryan or Steve Spagnoula Marty is a long shot..His son must go as does the rest of Manginis staff!"
Mike from 308 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:16pm ET"Eric, there was some media buzz a few days ago about Bill Parcells having some sort of escape clause in Miami. Is there any speculation he might return to NY in some capacity? I know he LEFT when Woody took over, but he has his house up here in Saratoga and with the new stadium, the new complex, I can't believe he wouldn't consider some role with us. Heck, what about as coach?"
sal Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:23pm ET"no confusion here, i see an 8-3 team that stopped playing, a 38 year old hall a famer pressing way to much to recievers who ocassionally make plays, a defence who could pressure the qb, and allowd more rushing yard durin the last 4 games, 1 in real bad weather than they did all season. a runnig ack w/ a mouth that coundnt get posistive yards on first down 90% of the time, anything else i miss"
Southernlady Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:58pm ET"Changing the subject, Randy, do you know how many yards Leon Washington averaged? He and J-Co I think are really going to do well next year. What ever happens. Also did anyone say when they wanted to have a coach decided by?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Southernlady, Leon Washington this season averaged 5.9 yards on 76 carries and 7.6 yards on 47 receptions, if that's what you're asking. The Jets have set no timetable on when they want to name their new head coach."
CHEPS13 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 4:08pm ET"HEY (PRI 30) WHY DONT YOU GET OFF OUR JET BLOG!!IF YOU CANT SEE BRETT IS DONE THEN YOURE BLIND JUST LIKE HIM!!HAHAH BIG UPs TO THOMAS JONES WHO CALLED IT LIKE IT IS AND KEPT IT REAL.(2) TDS (9) INTS IN LAST 4, ANACCEPTABLE!!IF HE WAS HURT THAT BAD HE SHOULD HAVE SAT HIMSELF OUT !TEAM FIRST!AS FOR MANGINI HE WAS HARD HEADED 270PND LBs ARE NOT DBs that killed us!!"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 4:42pm ET"Bretts a big boy & can handle a little criticism. If Favre comes back I think he needs to work a little bit harder & take care of the football. T. Jones is right ,like it or not, in his statements(though I feel he should have kept them in house)there are 52 other guys on this team & #4's reckless play undermines all the hard work that was done.All players need to perform or ride the pine, incl #4."
Sindrew Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:01pm ET"Maybe Brett spends his down time in an office because the locker room is riddled with swear words and the other players just talk about how hard they party and how many girls they plan to hook up with. If anyone noticed, Brett's wife wrote a book about how her Christian faith sustained her during her battle with breast cancer. There's more to the story - Jones has already recanted."
Sindrew Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:03pm ET"If Brett spent his down time in an office maybe that's because the locker room his riddled with swear words and players talking about how hard they party and how many girls they plan to hook up with. If anyone noticed, Brett's wife wrote a book on how her Christian faith sustained her through breast cancer. There is more to this story that what's being reported - Jones has already recanted. DECLINED: REPEAT"
Hogan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:34pm ET"Right on Damone. A real fan follows a team not 1 player, and it is all the bandwagon/Favre fans that make Woody think he will sell PSLs. I am scared they will use B. Schott. so he will do whatever Woody J, wants. PLEASE NO!!!"
FAVRE O HOLICS "please" Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:42pm ET" the guy was throwing like a 50 yr old please stop defending him, he could not reach his targets please stop defending him, he over threw his targets please stop defending him, he is tired you can see the look on his face please stop defending him, his days are done we gave him a chance he failed miserably,he needs to hang it up and RETIRE peacefuly and please stop defending him, Favre is done!!"
jetfanDan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:16pm ET"At 8-3, real football minds knew the lack of pass rush and defense in general was bad - due to coaching. The offense played okay considering Bretts poor play...overall the lack of a pass rush killed us. I like the idea of Rex Ryan as defensive coordinator, also heard Steelers LB coach Keith Butler could be a possibility. Bring a football mind in here!"
sal Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:25pm ET"that was couldnt stop the run or press a qb during the last 4 games, dropped balls ,underthrown balls, and a staf who didnt make adjustments during the half. plus a hall of famer off the couch w/ no training camp, that Bret favre coulndt even do for a full season, a great attempt, but lets see waht a full camp w/ another big time recver, a better secdry, an good HC does. w/ TJ&LW in the backfeild"
jetfanDan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:26pm ET"WIth all due respect Ira....how can you watch football all these years and be so "pie in the sky" about this bunch? You dont get it. At 8-3, we saw the truth (Cassel ripped us for 400 yds passing, Kerry Collins had 280 while only having the ball for 19 minutes!!!! - if that wasnt a red flag, then you'd never know one). Rex Ryan, please come here and help us play defense! DEFENSE wins!!!"
sal Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:38pm ET"Another party has to buy a portion of the fish to complete the sale, w new mgmt parcells has an escape claus, that hasnt happened, and Parcells & Woody didnt leave on the best of terms, probably not unrepairable, but this is just parking lot talk from moonachie"
mike Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:46pm ET"go with spagnuolo, and a 4-3. I hate going back to 4-3 after giving up on Vilma and Abraham but we have 4-3 guys. but the biggist bonus is VG at DE. This way our big draft pick isn't a bust. Watch what spags has done to the giants D, a deadly pass rush which was our biggest weakness last season even more so than BF's play down the stretch. "
EZAL Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:52pm ET"The team quit mid season. Why? They knew Farve was injured. Brian Schott abdicated his roll as OC and aceeded to Farves demand he run the offense. I call that obdication of responsibility. So who does Woody wish to interview for the top job? Schott. PS Bad form for team mates to bad mouth a fellow player, unless it's all true."
Dominic Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 6:58pm ET"I agree with most what sal said but mostly with Thomas Jones, he just never really got the Jets started in the game and Leon who is great just isn't an every down back so they had to give Leon a rest sometime, However with Shanahan Thomas Jones would get better on all downs because Shanahan knows how to work with any RB and Farve really should come back I know he will do way better this time. "
fljetfan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 7:29pm ET"Hey mikemc, i believe your as studious a jet fan as i am. i really do. lets cut to the chase here we need shanny to come in an take this mess over. i mean this aint gonna be easy agreed? we have no clear cut qb to go along with a team that is shellshocked. in my humble opinion we need a veteran coach to handle the situation here. i consider us a veteran team and think we need one as HC"
CEDRIC Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 7:54pm ET"Be clear, Favre played with us because he wanted to play football, he didnt care who he played with, he has no real loyalty to anyone. So when Mr T get rid of Chad who would die for his jets teammates, you destroy team chemistry. Farve, Thanks but your done. Please retire. Speak your mind TJ"
Drew Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 8:01pm ET"It appears that Shanahan is no longer an option. The media is going to make this ugly. It dosent even matter if they contacted Cowher or Shanny...they are already printing that they both dont want the Jet job. When top coaches turn you down (dosent even matter if they really did or not) it humiliates your franchise. If one of these interviewed DC (Spags or Ryan) turn us down its a disaster"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 8:23pm ET"Dag Damone, you sound "ticked off". I hate to keep picking on Favre, but all of these blind loyalists keep bringing it out of me. A team is only as strong as its weakest component, and we had 3 weak spots, the lack of a pass rush, poor secondary, & poor QB play during the last 5 weeks. The QB spot gets the most attention & rightfully so. So enough with this outcoached nonsense, we were outplayed."
fljetfan Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:29pm ET"well, looks like tuna is our last hope, anybody else im afraid wont be able to save this reeling franchise. when will it end......"
Matt Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 3:52am ET"The Jets' best bet would be steve spagnuolo, the jets have some great defensive players maybe he can get a great scheme for them. He made a beast out of Justin Tuck maybe he can help out Vernon Gholston, who should be at d end. "
Oscar Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 5:12am ET"Wow, what's with all this negativity?? I think Jones was right for sticking up for *HIS* team by saying what was needed to be said. Favre should've been sat down after hurting his arm in that Dolphins game and maybe we would've have won that game. Favre is done. Sad to say it but I hope he doesn't come back. :( But I do see a bright future for either Ainge or Ratliff. What are your thoughts Randy?"
steveb Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 7:39am ET"Cedric, you hit the nail on the head! It is not aways the amount of talent that translates to wins. To me football is more want to and team chemistry! Perfect example this year is cowboys and dolphins. Dolphins have few stars but have chemistry and want to and Cowboys have loads of talent but polarizing players &no chemistry.Favre was jets version of T.O.Would have made playoffs with Chad."
Frank Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 9:35am ET"Hey Damone you are spot on buddy. The coaching staff led by Mangenious(not) did an awful job putting the players in a position to best utilize their talents. The genius and his inept staff continually forced a system on players without regard to capabilities that is why they stunk it up. Opposing coaches figured out how to beat him including the worst teams in the league that is why he got fired."
Frank Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 9:38am ET"Don't worry Damone they will hopefully hire Spagnuolo a guy with a masters degree in pyschology with the knowledge and expertise in handling players. He will also put his players in the best possblie position to succeed based on their strenghts rather than forcing a system on them. He will also be able to motivate his players and his strenghts are his in game adjustments. "
Frank Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 9:45am ET"Mikey Mc and the others want to continue to blame the players when clearly the people who "really understand football" did the right thing and fired a guy who didn't know how to coach and was in over his head. I am certain the next HC will concentrate on football and hire football people instead of boxing people and trying to turn the team into a WWE or whatever that is."
Ferg Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 10:49am ET"While my passion for this team runs deep, I'm afraid we are going to take a step back -- again! I hope the braintrust has enough sense to interview Jim Fassel or Marty. This team needs an experienced head coach. As we all know, hiring the hot, young assistant does not have a long shelf life. "
JET4LIFE Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 11:28am ET"its funny 1 washed up legend can turn a town of packer fans into Jet experts in1 horrible season that he gave us.what next he plays for the lions and you all run to Detroit? give me a break.i don't care what you think or who you root for your fairweather in my book anyway true fans stick to there team period.I loved Vilma I dont put my2centsin the saints site stop! being jets experts your not!!"
MikeMc Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 11:37am ET"fljetfan, I would love a top flight HC with winning experience but where is he? Shanahan is burnt after 14 yrs, & his style of dirty, fake injury play is not what I want to see my team doing.Marty & Parcells are dinosaurs, & Cowher opted out. So that leaves Fassel, Callahan,Billick. Its time for a D-minded, strong character up& coming,intimidating figure that can move mountains,no recycles, a jet."
MikeMc Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 11:44am ET"Drew, unfortunately your right. The Media fired our last coach & now they are trying to pick our next one. Tanwoody needs to come out & say " nobody has been offered the jet HC job, we are doing our due diligence & leaving no stone unturned in our quest for the perfect man to lead the jets to victory". Nobody wants to be a 2nd or 3rd choice, a 5yr deal would add stability ,for 3yrs at least."
Hogan Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 12:04pm ET"Thats it. I am done with these Favre fans. Your QB stunk up the joint by not calling it quits, because he is to proud, when he clearly has ran out of gas. So you attack our team and fans. You are not fans of anything, you where never really Packer fans, you quit on them in a hurry, you were never wanted as jets fans. NO ONE WANTS YOU!!!!!!!"
JET4LIFE Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 12:44pm ET"lot of speculation and false info in this site Shany simply stated he will take 2 weeks before thinking or considering anything,and the spags and ryan meetings wont reveil anything until atleast they are out of the Playoffs they still have jobs and obligations to fufill, i think we need to stay put till after this weekend at the least.cowher made it clear he was out till 2010 we were hoping not."
Drew Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 1:25pm ET"MikeMc, I would agree that the pass rush/Favre were awful but I think the lack of pass rush really hurt our secondary. If you give a QB 7 secs to throw...someones going to get open. I keep trying not to kill Favre but these fans are crazy. The guy was brought in to win games.The fact is he let the team down and lost games...He had a magical night in NE and a good Tenn game and then...CRASH!!!!!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 1:52pm ET"The description of the word blind loyalists is how you keep defending Mangini when he has no track record of doing anything Favre has a tracj record of been great. outcoached nonsense. 4th & 1 from the 3 in a game u must win you go for it 1 u send a message to your team that u have faith in them 2 if you get 1 yard 1st & goal from the 2 2 if you get 3 yards it is 7 zip & you send a message to the "
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 1:56pm ET"other team that you are playing to win 3 even if you dont make it the other team has to drive 97 yards in a blizzard HELLO in your press conference your excuse was you thought it was going to be a close game? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! next you kicker nails a 45 yard kick that would have been good from 60 yards we get a penalty you dont let him re kick it even thou he is on the sidleline telling "
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 2:04pm ET"you he can make it way to send a message to your kicker you trust him next it is 4th & 4 there are over 2 mins left u have all 3 time outs you dont put you go for it dont get it & give them the ball on your 19 YOU JUST HANDED THEM POINTS & 4TH & 4 YOU THROW A BOMB you have all 4 WRS run to the sticks & turn around NOW THIS IS 1 GAME I CAN NAME 3 YEARS OF GAMES WHERE WE WERE OUTCOACHED "
Tess Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 3:34pm ET"In reponse to the guy placing blame on Favre, maybe if the offense had been better organized, the play calling had been better, and the O-Line had done a better job of protecting that hall of fame qback, the last five weeks could have brought this team to the big game. Favre took the Pack to one play away from that game last season. "
greenngoldblood Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 5:33pm ET"If they are going to keep Favre for another season, then they should bring in a coach who can install a west coast offense that Favre is familiar with and has been successful with. Steve Mariucci comes to mind, as he is very familiar with Favre as well. OK Favre haters, I asked for it!"
Howie D Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 5:43pm ET"Woody should immediately sell the Jets if hires Shott as Head Coach. Shott is a primary reason why the Jets are in this position."
Fight613 Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 6:25pm ET"They have to get Shanahan. He's a proven winner, and a coach with experience."
MikeMc Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 7:46pm ET"John Abraham looked like Vernon Gholston, a total non factor.Maybe he was playing hurt, which he always is.Ben Graham looked pretty darned good, glad to see he landed on his feet. Turnovers killed Atlanta, Brett Favre take note."
CEDRIC Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 10:10pm ET"I just heard Peter King say Favre is going to retire thank HEAVEN!! So much for PSL's lol.....Go JETS!!!"
jimmy Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 1:05am ET"What are the plans for this team?why is Farve dictating our future?What about Brett Ratcliff? Is Parcells up for another round with the jets?When will the jets fans be proud??????????????? "
35 year fan Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 1:21am ET"Randy, please give me some good rumors about Bill Parcells. Just tell me lies ,if you have to. Tell me he's in some secret closed door meetings . Some dimly lit war room . Just make up some stuff to keep the faithfull alive."
Eric Allen Said:
"Sorry, 35, got nothing for you on that front. "
steveb Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 6:12am ET"Two reasons the Jets are having a problem hiring a coach 1)Brett Favre he told Mr.T he might want to consider going another route next yr. same thing he told the pack but then he changes mind nobody wants to deal with Favre 2) Clearly no coach in his right mind could trust Mr.T after his push to get Favre and then whack Mangini to cover up.Woody and Mr.t had secretly talked about it for months"
steveb Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 6:19am ET"Mangini had no clue he was getting the axe had anyone talked to him about the apparent problem they had with him I thought he and Mr. T were tight?When you listen to the players it sounds like there was support for Mangini but not Favre but yet Mr.T wants Favre but not Mangini.Does Mr.T have a clue and what quality coach wants a boss like that?Randy/Eric do we take a cap hit if Favre retires?"
Eric Allen Said:
"steveb, I don't know the answer but my instinct says no."
mikeod Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:33am ET"there still can't be any favre fans letf out there.......his cut & run after the season ending debacle, no post game comments & handshake, no consideration for his team mates or jet fans, getting out of town....poor character. too much about him..... "
fljetfan Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:42am ET"Question, we are interviewing HC canidates, why is our owner not in town?!!"
joe b Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:59am ET"We need a new HC with HC experience. Not an assistant who is learning on the fly. How many previous HCs have we had (2) Weeb and Bill. Both won big games. Look At Brian Billick. He was a tough coach on his palyers. Very demanding."
MikeMc Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 10:09am ET"OK Frank & Spicer, time to lay off of Mangini, A- he is not here anymore so you both got your wish & B- Your both flat out wrong, you have no idea what he was like behind the scenes. I won't debate Mangini because it just doesn't matter, just like I won't debate Chad, Vilma or Robertson. The next guy is my guy, & lets hope he meets your expectations. Pls stop it with your infinate wisdom, its old"
Drew Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 10:55am ET"fljetfan...I understand why we are interviewing some guys like B-Schott, Callahan and even Spags with Woody being out of town. But what big time coach like Cowher or Shanahan is going to bother to interview witt Mr T? They both feel they would be working for the owner not some 39 yr old GM that is not a football guy. Woody wants a big coach he better treats these big coaches with some respect."
supercooljetfan Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 12:11pm ET"hopefully ryan will be our next hc because he has experience in the 3-4 defense and hopefully get mike martz to be our next oc"
fljetfan Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 3:01pm ET"Attention Chadlovers, he only gets you so far. Hit em in the mouth and he might break Favre's record for picks in a playoff game. That's the Chad I remember when he plays a GOOD defense. Defense wins in the end not flutterballs!"
Southernlady Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 3:24pm ET"So basically what all the craddle born Jets Fans are saying is that the Jets don't need anymore fans. Right?Y'all have enough fans and if anyone differs from opinion they aren't really Jets Fans.I just want to make sure that I have that right.So when you get no publicity in a few yrs the only people to blame would be that small amount of people who feel their comments are the only ones needed."
MikeMc Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 5:03pm ET"That Rex Ryan Defense looked pretty good today."
JoJojet Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 6:53pm ET"What is the deal? Chad throws 4 picks and does not get benched? I guess they were not listening to TJ. IF Farve comes back , we go deep into playoffs with New hc and oc. That way he knows the plays and can go out and eat with the players instead of study plays. If not,I hope for the best. Maybe they will bring Chad back!! "
mrmagoo Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 7:03pm ET"Where's all the love for your Chad now. 4 int's,..lol"
james Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:15pm ET"Pennington's four interceptions were a Miami postseason record... where are the go Pennington jet funs, come on guys out team is the jets our problem was the coach. He could coached as long we were on the lead. The layers won the games, after the game planning was so wel known we collapsed. However, I do believe we ned a coach that goes after the players and not to alwways suck up to them!!! "
james Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:37pm ET"no more fake jet funs on this blog... and what about TJ he got one season and he bad mouthing his qb... send him paking he is not a team player he will be in the HO SHAME first ballet. We do not need players that bad mouth each other... what are we the dallas cowboys with TO gry babe in the making. Close all the blogs to jet haters. We play like as team and we loose as a team no regrets until next"
jak, 23 wk jet fan Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 11:11pm ET"greenngoldblood ..Steve Mariucci ..might be good,but itd be great to have holmgren.....id like to see both o and d . defense first though.spag,or ryan ect.the 58 giants had lombardi as offense coach and landry defense, what a trifecta it would b if woody cleared house and got 3 unknowns and jets won 2010 superbowl"
Jets Fan since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 2:04am ET"So much for "Bring back Chad!" I'm glad he had a good year but it's the same year he had for us when he was healthy, which wasn't all that often. The Reed TD interception was classic: No pass rush, receiver open to the sideline, Chad throws short and two guys to the right like he's leading Reed down the middle. So now Miami's where we were after 2006: Their QB's okay but he isn't the future."
Hogan Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 1:15pm ET"NO southernlady, you dont have it right. Fans of the jets are fine, Fans of 1 player who then attack the rest of the team because they dont like his selfish style of play are not welcome....GOODBYE!!!"
Row Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 3:51pm ET"If you guys remember I backed TJ when you said he was a muscle headed, one hit and down RB. There is no reason for anyone to question the validity of his comments or the fact the he has earned his say. The guy made the pro bowl, and was stripped of gaining first downs by Schott. He rushed for 1,300 and had less then a 20 carry average per game. If anything, we should be the NY TJ's.. 13TD's"
JD Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:47pm ET"Row, "maybe you don't know one of the main reasons Manginius was fired is because he started meddling with the offensive game plans every week instead of fixing his defense. Jones made the pro bowl because of Schott before Mangini started micro-managing everything that was working."
JET4LIFE Said:
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 11:06am ET" still after all the Favre nonsense the Southern Lady dont get the joke, she was abandoned by her man #4 she has no loyalty to the Packers other wise she would'nt be in here bugging us she has no loyalty to the JETS so that makes her a Widow of the packer jet bandwagon, Jones had every right to call out Favre period it dont matter now Favre is done and so are the fake Jet Cheese Head Fans"
Rich Said:
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 8:38pm ET"I don't think any player should be calling out others. That is the coaches job and the coaches job to be managing these games. Some of the big reasons Jones had the openings he did was because there was fear of the running game. Perhaps a reciever who could get open would help and a consistent offence play calling."
Southernlady Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 12:07pm ET"First of all, I am not "abandoned" by Favre just because he came to the Jets and it shouldn't matter how I got here. Rather or not you or anyone else thinks I am a "real fan" doesn't matter to me. You have turned this into attacking me instead of accepting the fact that no matter who you are you should never "call out" any player to the media. That's the point in management."
JET4LIFE Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 3:21pm ET"Whatever all I know is that as bad as Favre stunk up the field the stench in the locker room was worse and it took its toll on a bunch of the players my point is and was, the media spun this into a personal attack on favre they misquoted Jones and he was became the bad guy, and as usual the sheep follow the Media Shepard "the fact is" we dont know jack about what went on in that locker room period"
Jets Fan since '64 Tom Said:
Thu, January 8, 2009 - 3:37am ET"A big gentlemanly bow to the Southernlady, who obviously knows what it is to be a fan, a team player, and a manager of people. As class players always say, fans can say whatever they want but it's way different for players. My hero's Bogart who, once called back to re-shoot closeups that he didn't nail, never let on he was grimacing on camera due to the pain of terminal cancer -- now THAT'S a pro!"
JET4LIFE Said:
Thu, January 8, 2009 - 3:00pm ET"it doesnt take much to see the problem of two little people who don't add up to a hill of beans,in this crazy blog! someday you'll understand that 64 Now Now... here's looking at you Kid! and the problem with this blog is everyone is a few Drinks behind, so Bow all you want just dont break your back in the process, i was a fan of James cagney were kinda like a bad guy good guy thing"
southernlady Said:
Fri, January 9, 2009 - 9:45am ET"I am not going to beat this dead horse any longer. Although, I will say "Thanks" to 64 Tom. "
Jets Fan since '64 Tom Said:
Fri, January 9, 2009 - 3:54pm ET"You're more than welcome, sugar, we need more Jets fans like you, no matter where they live -- especially now! Pity us folks out here in L.A. who don't even have the Rams to kick around anymore -- once the Jets are out of it, I have to root for the Giants and the Chargers! (I could NEVER root for the Raiders, of course -- never wanted them here and was glad when they left!)"
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MikeMc Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:21pm ET"Lets hope Rex Ryan gets on the jets short list. We need a fiery leader, with a stout defensive backround.I hope we don't sign some Tanwoody puppet like whats going on in Dallas."
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