Calling it a Career? Favre Not Ready to Say
Published: Sun, December 28, 2008 - 10:54pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Eric Mangini, Kerry Rhodes, Leon Washington, Miami Dolphins, Brett Favre, Alan Faneca
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12/28 — The Jets' Meadowlands locker had the hushed tones of a funeral parlor, and in a way it was. The players are all still very much alive, but they won't be kicking — or catching or throwing or running or blocking — into the postseason because the collective Jets body came to rest in Week 17 at the Meadowlands with its fourth loss in five games and its playoff opportunities deceased.
Then there was another undercurrent of a team on the move, which every NFL team that doesn't reach the postseason is at this time. But the biggest name in the room is Brett Favre and no one is really sure if the Hall of Fame quarterback-to-be will be a Jet next season or on his way to retirement.
There was still a sense of a man about to retire. As Favre talked at his locker with radio analyst Marty Lyons before addressing the reporters at large, he held a toothbrush in his right hand. That's a sure sign of someone about to leave a hotel room or a town.
All right, maybe that's forced, but as Favre finished the interview to head off and brush his teeth, he and coordinator Brian Schottenheimer clapped each other on the back, and tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson joined in the pressing of the flesh on his way back to his locker.
Yet despite these signs, there was less of a sense of finality today at the interview room podium than there was the day before Christmas at the podium in the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. Asked point-blank if he's undecided about playing next year, Favre said:
"I am. The obvious choice would be a quick decision based on what happened. It's a hasty, irrational decision based on what's happened. I'll go home and get away for a week or so — we haven't really talked about it — and make the right decision."
He didn't know the exact timeline by when this decision would be made, whether it would be before or after the Feb. 8 Pro Bowl, for which he has been selected.
Nor did head coach Eric Mangini have a schedule in place for "The Talks."
"We'll talk about it when we talk about it," Mangini said, "and he'll decide when he decides."
Favre did confirm that his shoulder has "been better" and that he will get an MRI on Monday at his season-ending physical, and that what these medical reports indicate might be a reason to hang up the pads with the yellow lining for good.
"I know my body," he said. "I don't know as much as an orthopedist but I know it didn't feel like it should, I do know that. Whether or not it would require surgery, that is something else I would have to weigh, whether or not, first of all, I would want surgery, second of all, if I need it, would I play or not? I'm 39. I don't want to have a bunch of surgeries to continue playing."
OK, so that's a strike against returning. But a vote for coming back, for Year No. 18, when No. 4 would turn 40, comes with the topic of "unfinished business."
"There was a point where everyone expected us to continue on," Favre said. "Whether or not that weighs in my decision, I'm sure it does to a certain degree. I do feel like there's unfinished business. There's a lot of potential. I know that word was one of those words. When you talk about potential, you go 'Oh, boy.' but there is a lot of potential on this team."
That's the problem for Favre. There's no calling for any mulligans or do-overs for this season just completed, but let's say that his health is fine and he commits to the full off-season ...
"If he wants to come back and is ready to come back and put in the time for the whole year, that's fine with me," safety Kerry Rhodes said. "That's with any player. You want that, to have the sense of everybody being together."
And it's easy to forget that the good times this season were very good, when Favre was completing 70 percent of his passes, not throwing picks at a league-leading pace, and the offense, defense and special teams were piling up points at the second-best rate in the NFL.
"People look for excuses right now," Leon Washington said. "And I'm sure Brett would be the one who wouldn't make excuses for himself. He's not that type of player. Even though Brett was hurt late, I feel like we still had opportunities to go out and win football games. That's the bottom line. We didn't take advantage of our opportunities."
"Did he make us better? Definitely," said guard Alan Faneca. "He came in and changed our offense and made us do some things that we weren't able to do. I think he did a lot of positive things."
That was a sentiment echoed by Mangini during his disappointed postgame remarks.
"Brett's a Hall of Fame player," the coach said. "He's got great energy. He's a great professional. He brought all of those things to the team. I think a lot of people learned things from him. I think we're a better team for him being here. I appreciate the relationship we had and the one he had with the team."
Everyone has opinions on what Favre should do, but what he will do will be influenced by only a few folks — him, his family, the Jets leadership. If there is to be a Jet Favre II, so be it. The graybearded gunslinger didn't tip his hand more than what he said above, but he seems genuinely sincere about his experience here and that could be another element in his decision.
"I had a blast working with these guys," he said. "It was a lot of fun. It's disappointing where we are now, but I wouldn't trade it for anything."
Another Mark for Leon
Washington had mixed emotions at having to answer a question about setting another franchise record today — most all-purpose yards in a season — when his team lost a game and lost the playoffs. But Washington showed himself to be a man of football substance with his answer about what eclipsing Bruce Harper's 30-year-old record means to him.
"Certain things in life you want to accomplish as a football player," he said. "I'm a person who's concerned about how I'm perceived. A lot of people in this sport, the game of football, the NFL, play this game well. With that being said, with the record I got today, I think it says Leon Washington of the New York Jets, he plays the game hard, tough, physical, he always plays the game with a lot of emotion and 110 percent."
Washington, who could become a free agent after next season, wasn't promising anything but he did say, "In my opinion, I'd love to be a Jet for a long time. I like it here."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (307)Curious 1969 Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:47pm ET"I hope Farve comes back for at least 1 more season - he proved he can still play and for the most part he played well for the Jets. Congrats to Leon on his mark on the Jets - If there is a person or group of people that should leave the Jets - it should be the coaching staff - Head Coach on through - they did a poor job making sure this team got to the playoffs."
JustAFan Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:48pm ET"Brett, Please come back! You made this team a MUCH better team than they were before you came. One player can't win or lose the game, but they can sure be a huge influence in a locker room and on a field, and you were definitely a positive influence on this team! We saw glimpses of what this team can be, and I'd like a chance to see it on a consistent basis! One more year please???????????????"
Stunna Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:50pm ET"To be honest with you i hope the same management comes back for 1 more year coz they have done a heck of a job with bringing in talent, ok we messed up the season but thats jus a step closer to being better a gd draft and favre back and coaches actually learning from their mistakes the jets will be dangerous plz dnt write them off just as yet, i would also like to c VG next year GO JETS JETS JETS "
Pete Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:50pm ET"One last comment before I put my bitter behind to bed. I knew this would be a bad year and I really, really hate the 3-4. However, stop bashing Lowery. A 4th round rookie forced to start on an awful defense with no pass rush and only one real safety on the roster. I remember those optimists saying our front 7 would be the best in football, hah! Mangini's 3-4 is the worst. Lowery did a great job! "
ed duignam Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:59pm ET"anyone who defends mangini is not a jet fan....game plan and desire are gone...if Johnson does not replace mangini this season will carry over for years....you just dont get over a melt down like this...again, anyone who defends mangini has to be a dolphin or patriot fan! FIRE MANGINI NOW!"
TitletownFavreFan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:04am ET"wow, Brett took a pathetic team and gave them 9 wins and brought something to the Jets that had been lacking for years. Pathetic season?, that's a joke, the Lions would kill for 9 wins!"
Tony C Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:09am ET"I'm with Bucks County Jeff "This is the worst francise in sports. Congrats on another horrible season." I think the coaching has a lot to do with this team's failures. They never seem to be "consistently" prepared. I've never seen any half time adjusts...if they did make any ..they didn't work. I will give credit to the GM...but they rest of the staff doesn't have a clue how to coach.do Miami!"
randy Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:12am ET"i hoped the jets would win it all. i think they had a lot better shot had favre not been injured. all the analysts on the pre and post game shows noticed that weeks ago. the jets did not reach their full potential. to brett favre i say, "ONE MORE YEAR." even at 39, he is stil better than any qb in the nfl."
pat Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:16am ET"Favre and Mangini were never a good fit. He should have "let the tiger go" All he did instead were mouth criticizisms on the sidelines. Please Brett, don't retire.Come back somewhere.Get your shoulder fixed if necessary but don't retire!"
carl Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:21am ET"Hey Brett , Thanks for a memorable season! Buy ya a beer if ya come back for one more year ! "
Ray Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:21am ET"Looks like Brett should have made the deal with The Packers and stayed where he had a fan base who loved and adored him for 16 years and always welcomed him back with open arms no matter how he played. Favre should retire now."
JP Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:25am ET"Whether you love or hate Favre, he brought the crowds and the fans - his Jersey sold incredibily and brought more buzz to the team in more than a decade. I truly believe he got hurt by 2 things: not being with the team in Training camp/preseason and getting hard hit a lot! When we were 8-3 he was on fire, but I do believe he got hurt. If he comes back, I will root for him. Let's wait and see."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:28am ET"Drew here's the problem with the blogs only blaming Favre .1st if he really is hurt then it's the coaches fault again ..It's his job to make sure players are able to preform at the highest level for the whole team not to protect his pride .. Next the team & coaches totally collapsed the last 5 games D -was non existent play calls bush league at best & no clue as 2 why . That's the problem"
Tony Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:42am ET"Again - This team has been re-building for 30 years. You can't dump it all on Farve, there have been a lot of missed catches all season. Offensive Coordinator should be the first to go and I'm sorry to say Mangini shouldn't be far behind. It would be nice if this team could play more than 10minutes of football. I need someone to explain how a team like this beats Tenn and then looses all spark? "
bucks county jeff said Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:51am ET"what are you guys talking about. look at what the hell brett did for us. we were a mess before the season we added some good players but do you honestly beleive that'd have a 5 game winning streak and beat the undefeated titans this year if it was clemens or chad behind center? NO not at all never you should be appreciative of what this year was to us and he'll be back from 4-12 to 9-7 is great"
John H Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:01am ET"Randy is it true that Parcells might opt out on his contract in January? Is that a possibility? That would really lift some down New York fans. That would be so good ,it would erase the memory of this seasons abomination. Please Woody ,please look into that . FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!"
jimmy quinonez Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:11am ET"farve should stay one more year and bring in mooch to be runited with brett..or bill cowher..fire the rest of the staff except bill callaghan and the specialteams coach"
kristine Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:13am ET"drew, with all due respect, you have to be kidding. yes, brett played very badly at season's end. but if you think the debacle of this season wasn't mangini and company's doing, you haven't been paying attention. time and again, when brett was playing well, executing field-length drives, from season opening to last week in seattle, mangini made conservative calls that cost his offense and his team"
kristine Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:19am ET"as i was saying, i'm not saying brett is blameless, but you obviously know little about #4 if you think his gunslinging outcomes were unusual (he is the INT and TD all-time leader, after all). the problem this year was his coaching staff, who couldn't muster enough success, on either side of the ball, to offset his errors. if you want to put it all on brett, be my guest.....but you're wrong."
joe Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:23am ET"Welcome to the Packers problem the last 4 years...will he or won't he...don't expect an answer soon...Favre likes the attention of a long dragged out decision."
Jeremy Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:43am ET"Favre was the best thing that happened to this team. If Chad were still around we'd have the same record as last year. Favre escaped a lot of pressure that Chad would have folded under. Do you forget game winning td's that went for pics last year? Chad was not right for this team and he's better with the Dolphins. But don't take credit away from Brett, He came in not knowing a system."
Jack Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:46am ET"Never has a QB in history had more lame excuses made for him than Brett Favre. In the last 5 games his best QB rating in any one of them awas 60. He cannot run. He never is used in play action. The Dolphins were much more imaginative and their offense so much more intricate than ours. This team needs a makeover...no more Mangini, no more Favre. After this melt down, need I say more?"
Gregory Alan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:54am ET"No matter what, business wise, it was a great decision in the end. The Favre name and the #4 jersey made the NYJ at lot of money in the end. As a fan I expected more at 8-3. #4 doesnt change the same old Jets."
Eric Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:31am ET"The trade was a great trade for the franchise! We got the greatest NFL quarter back in the history of football to this day. Favre gave us a deep ball threat which we never had. He was great! Then towards the end of the year he made bad decisions which led to losses. He just to me, didn't seem comfortable towards the end of the year. Unfortunately, it carried on into the 2 final games of the year."
Jarrod Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:59am ET"All of the haters, no wonder the team wants to move! The team won 9 games and the last few should have been won if just a FEW passes had been caught and a few more tackles been made-- Add 5 passes caught-- count them-- and the Jets would be in the playoffs now-- they were great passes that were dropped. THOSE PASSES GET CAUGHT, Brett Favre is still in the MVP talks-- Bring back #4!"
sean Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:02am ET"I think the Jets team as a whole just fell from one of the best to a ordinary team at best. I also think that Brett has brought good and bad things to the Jet franchise. There will always be what ifs and such like that but Brett brought a 4-12 team to a 9-7 team. You also can't but the whole blame on Favre its a team in a whole."
ak, 22 wk jet fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:43am ET"brett ,dont retire unless you want to ,or unless you feel you cant play well.these last 5 games were poor performances.but not all your fault.maybe your next season will be better.thank you for 15 years of excitement."
TF Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:50am ET"The team was lucky they won in week 15 or they would be 8-8. Farve is the sol person responsible for the lost to the fins. Farve's decision making is questionable. Look like he wanted to loose the game. The man ( Farve ) is beyond his playing days. Too bad he is going out a looser. Jets should of won the division hands down. "
Big Ed Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:13am ET"Bye Brett. At this point you can only thrive in a system you know (GB). You don't have the desire to pour your heart and soul into learning a new system to the best of your ability like Chad did in Miami."
Russ Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:42am ET"I thought I was a die hard Packer fan but I found myself watching more Jets games this year then Packer games. The only reason for that is because I LOVE watching Brett Favre play football. I would have loved to have seen the Jets make the post season and continue the success they had this year. Good or bad, you cannot deny the fact that Brett brings an added element to every game in which he play"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:55am ET"!st off,I don't want to hear We Should've Kept Chad,He did nothing in that game.The RB takes half the snaps.Half his throws should've been picked off.Farve played BAD but,the only problem with getting him this season is we have a coach who is intimidated by him.And for that they both must GO!You don't chew out Keller and let Coles drop half his passes without saying nothing.He's INTIMIDATED!!!!!!!"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:06am ET"Sign Asomuhga from the Raiders,make a deal with them,our #1 this year and Gholston,and Farve and Coles and 4 PSLs.And we'll throw Mangini in that deal so he can go back to his roots as their BallBoy! DECLINED: INSULTING, NAMECALLING, ANONYMOUS"
beresford Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:25am ET"At least those Pats who wanted to be Jets fans for a day have had the FULL experience.........."
Ira Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:29am ET"Favre needs to hang them up. His days are over. He had a nice run and once teams figured him and the Jets offense out it was over. Once again i wanted them to keep Chad and not get Favre, It was a business move and a one year shot at the SB. It didn't work and now it will be a long offseason. Drew if the Jets want to bring in a new coach it has to be Cowher or somebody like him. If not keep EM."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:39am ET"Mr. Leon Hess i hope is Resting In Piece & not rolling. This franchise has taken a major dive since in the hands of Woody Johnson - Well it is what it is, the team wont be sold so just start w/firing M. Tennenbaum & down the line. New coaches & new QB next season - We dont need the guessing game in camp to whos our QB & lets get rid of L. Coles & make it priority to get a star WR. Im just so tired"
Florida Gal; NY fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:56am ET"We won more games this year with Brett than we did last year with Chad. You guys sound like last year was a great year...not only did it stink, the games were sooo boring. This year was fun even if we did miss the playoffs."
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:11am ET"And in the end , Chad looked young, fresh and throwing those beautifully accurate passes in command of his Offense! I am so happy for Chad and I loved to see him smile under his AFC East Champions cap. Way to come into New York and whip the team that drove you away. Must feel so gratifying. Happy New Year Chad Pennington !! You deserve it . It was a blessing in disguise for you to land in Miami."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:13am ET"Drew you are borderline hysteria blaming Favre is ridiculous. He tried making plays that the coaching staff failed to create. Teams know exactly what is coming. Our receivers are covered like a blanket they know our routes better than we do. I suppose you want to blame him for this awful defense too and the lack of creativity, game planning and in game adjustments as well as lack of passion. "
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:16am ET"And last but not least... The Jets Org. For letting this all happen. You have destroyed the fans yet again. And all to fill your own pockets thinking a washed up Brett Favre could come in here a save the Jets. Jets fans , true Jets fans knew Favre was a huge mistake. So now what? Do you have another plan for when Favre won't be back? No you don't. Jets fans will suffer again next season & so on."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:18am ET"I get killed for being a Mangini fan but if I see one more post asking for Favre to return I am going to go crazy. Fans can blame Mangini and want him to get fired but Favre needs to go away. This teams troubles began when Favre's play went downhill. He threw 1 TD and 9 INTS the last 5 games? Not to mention a ton of missed passes. What is Mangini supposed to do with QB play like that?"
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:22am ET"It is so pathetic that you can't establish the Jets as a true contender. You make a mockery of this team and the rest of the league and their fans are laughing at the Jets because they have been a joke for so long. Now what? 4 more years of Clemen Lemons?? Please i'm so sick of the Jets every year. They are such a laughingstock . Please move the team. "Well that's all I have to say about that" "
Jeff Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:35am ET"Bucks County Jeff could not be more correct.......This is "The worst franchise in sports" If they care about the fans, they have no choice...must fire Mangini. He had a fair chance to make this work, his failure is obvious to all."
jonjet58 Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:36am ET"You can sum up the season by the lack of intensity & confidence, from Brett farve in yesterdays pre-game huddle, " he said guys do your best ,and what ever happens,happens" real inspiring isn't it?"
Adam Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:48am ET"As bad as Favre played towards the end. Lets not forget how bad the defense was. They couldn't stop the run or the pass. Get rid of the 3-4"
Tanner Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:18am ET"Chris Mortensen just reported that Mangini is out as Jets head coach! what a day!"
wayne Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:24am ET"This team would have been no better had Chad been here. He does not and never has carried a team.Not in college and not here.How many great QBs have to be sent out on pass routes and have trick plays in order to get passes off. The league always catches up to him the next year or he gets injured.I give mgt A for trying and coaching gets F. If QB was hurt,put game in RBs + Ds hands.ADJUST!!!"
Troy in Houston Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:31am ET"HE'S OUT ,WAY TO GO WOODY NOT WASTING ANYTIME ,NOW GO GET BILL COHWER AND EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE "
wayne Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:35am ET"Congrats to Chad and thanks....The best thing the Jets did for Chad was cut him.Had he been here, he'd have taken the beating Bret took and we'd be feeling the same way we do today.Best thing Chad did for us sunday was win a game because that will force a much needed change around here.THANKS FOR THAT CHAD."
wayne Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:50am ET"The Chad I know will get crushed by the Ravens and be home like we AND PATS are.......I'm for Bret giving it one more try.If his arm is ok, he just might want to shut some people up....Doing what Jets have been doing for 8 yrs with Chad and expecting a different result is ......insanity or stupidity."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:52am ET"Cowher is not coming here with Mr T already in place. So look elsewhere fans. I will be calmed down if we get a proven winning guy or maybe Spagnola but if its Spagnola we are completely starting over with a brand new "young" coach. Everyone can cheer today and then kill him that hes too young to be the guy in NY. Sound familar?? Mistake firing Mangini today. Lets see if we get a better guy"
Anthony Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:56am ET"Favre is Favre. He is not an outspoke guy. He is not the Thomas Jones of the Locker room. He is a guy who says it how it is. He doesn't do the fire up act. He just tells you to dig deep when the time is right. I like the guy more then Pennington. Penny played good yesterday and good luck toh im but I still don't want him back. He didn't beat us yesterday. We beat ourselves..."
Joe Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:01am ET"Mangini and Tannebaum. Should be escorted off the facility. these guys have no idea what they are doing. they are putting the jets farther back. Are you fans ready the early 90s. here we go again."
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:04am ET"why wouldnt Mangini just tell shotty to just run the ball i dont care what 4said or shotty called the throws needed to be grounded and the run game never truly established.and the defense never gave them a chance poor tackles,the coaches could not get control of the problems and the players suffered,they just looked lost as a team thats a reflection of there leaders. lets see what the loss brings"
Sylar Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:05am ET"Brett needs to come back. I was getting sick of Mangini making comments on the sideline. Show the Legend some respect, coach!"
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:05am ET"Favre looked like the old man throwing 3 INTs. & getting smacked around looking so lost & confused. Thanks for stopping by. Oh & thank you Mangini for another great game plan. You had a full team with no injuries and went 1-4 down the stretch. Nice Job. Pats almost won it with 1/2 their starters out. God Help this team because only a prayer will help them next year. Look for more misery in 2009"
Angry Jets Fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:15am ET"Favre is NOT the problem. The man came in here 1 month into opening day and instantly brought life to the Jets. He brought them to 8-3, twice as many wins as they had the previous season. Thats a miracle in itself. After losing to Denver, and other teams finally figuring out the Jets, the coaching staff did nothing. Defense stunk, Offense stunk.. due to what? Favre? you gotta be kidding me."
wayne Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:17am ET"The next coach coming in here must be someone capable to finding out what some of these guys are made of.Someone like Parcells would have made a man out of Gholston. He would have ridden him until he broke or became a player. Not make excuses for him.Too many guys some of them now All Pros are not doing their jobs.Trade them and get run hungry player who hustle,run,hit.WINNING IS ALL THAT MATTERS."
Karen Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:18am ET"3 interceptions last night alone? Come on Favre...get real. Mangini is NOT the problem with this team."
Sindrew Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:23am ET"Look at Brett's stats from 2 years ago and 3 years ago. He threw 29 INTs three years ago! This year he was more or less the same as he always is. Everyone forgets this team won 9 games. At this point, Brett is the best chance for a Super Bowl run otherwise this team will be stuck rebuilding for years to come. "
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:23am ET"So mangini got fired today. What a mess the jets are. You see, long time Jets fans such as myself know the future of this team is always a ?. What they need to do is shut it down for good. New comers following this team, Get out now & save yourselves years of pain & misery & torture. You see it doesn't matter who is coaching. They all fail. All that matters is controversy. It sells tickets. "
chris Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:25am ET"As far as Brett ,TIME TO HANG IT UP ,About time mangini gone now how about the rest of the coaching staff the offensive play calling was horrible ,the defense fell apart ,time to rebuild its 40 yrs since jets seen super bowl ....fans tired of eaiting"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:31am ET"Now that Mangini is out we can start to talk about who will be the next coach Parcells, Cowher, Holgrem & Billick are all coaches who have won super bowls that would not have to learn while they were coaching us like Mangini or we can go the Spalango & LeBeau route but we need to go with a proven coach or a proven coordinator Mangini was a coordinator for 1 year before he came to the Jets "
Dennis Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:32am ET"Favre could have shaken hands with the Dolphin players, instead of running off to the locker room. It was a lack of professionalism and class. Retire Brett, enjoy your money and learn some manners."
finsfan1 Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:36am ET"Thank you Jets organization. While I never understood why they would sign a great quarterback whose best years were way behind him and get rid of another great q.b. who still has many great years left, I have to say thank you! As I really do wish the man-genius (not) was staying, he makes it easier for us, I can only hope maybe Kotite would come back in some fashion.... "
kaya Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:40am ET"Your wish has come true!! Mangini has been fired!!"
Alan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:41am ET"To all my fellow jet fans, I know we had our hearts ripped out again. But let's look at some positive things here.. we won 4 games last year..this year 9... so we improved. We all knew what Brett was bringing to the table. Those 4 loses in the west coast, I blame the coaching staff. B.Cowher-HC / D.Jauron-DC / M.Martz-OC. At least I can still dream.....sighhhhhh "
RT Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:41am ET"Thank you management for letting mangini go. I am tired of the no emotion he has. This is football. Get angry; show you want to win. 1. If favre is healthy, stay. I know the whole world hates favre, but this team won 9 games. Where were you last year?? 2. Be a running team! Steelers Ravens, Favre cant do it by himself! He is not that player anymore! 3. GET A PASS RUSH, NO 3-4! BLITZ!"
r Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:43am ET"Nothing good happened for Jets today..We still havent learned about bui8lding a foundation of linemen both Defense and Offense.. Too much money spent on toys.. No Pass rush sloppy run defense cost this team just like last years empty OL..Tannenbaum are you still here??"
Pete Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:45am ET"Should not be Brett's choice to stay or go. It was a bad decision in the first place. The better quarterback played for Miami yesterday. Let' Brett go spread his sunshine somwhere else. We need to move on. "
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:46am ET"Favre's pre-game huddle pep talk "Guys, If we win, we win, If we don't we don't" "Just go out and do your best"... Holy smokes Brett, Is that the best you got? You sounded like a little league coaching 12 year olds. No fire, no intensity, no motivation. That game was over before it started. Miami up'd and BRUNG IT! That's why they are Champs and Jets a Chumps... again."
Kev Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:49am ET"I can't believe there are people who want Favre to come back. What team are you watching?? What good is a "downfield threat" when we don't have any receivers who can get there?? This team was built around Chad in the offseason, around HIS strengths, and then you put a washed up Favre in and think he's going to succeed? Favre coming back will be a disgrace."
kristine Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:51am ET"thank god! vindication within 12 hrs!!! all you favre-haters have been renounced by your management who rightly and squarely placed the blame on mangini. i'll say again, brett is responsible for his poor choice and lack of execution - but mangini is responsible for the team's demise, period. to suggest otherwise reflects an incredible lack of knowledge about the game and how it is played. "
Kev Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:52am ET"Why try and get Brett help when he's not here for the long haul? Tannenbaum acted like a bad fantasy football player with the Favre trade. It's absolutely sickening. Chad went 11-5 with a far less talented team. For Eric, Mike, or Brett to return would be a travesty. I wish I could understand why you all make it so hard for me to like this team..."
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:01am ET"Hey, now that gini is gone and we can "DREAM" of new HC's, wouldn't it be the ultimate of irony's if B. Belicek came back to the NYJ. Never happen, but it would have to be my ultimate sports fantasy"
devon Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:04am ET" well i wud love 4 Favre to at least play one more year... cuz we were doin really well until the end... i think if the medical reports go well...nd Favre can play... let him... "
Paul Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:05am ET"So, to all the Jets fans who love Favre, I say this. Let the saga begin. I will retire, I won't retire, I will retire, I won't retire... We went throught this for years. I hope your franchise is smart enough to get a good QB now in the event he does not come back or wants to be traded. It's your turn now. By the way, thanks for the draft pick."
Bob Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:10am ET"Mangini is a good coach and will succeed somewhere, just not the right guy for the Jets, I guess. Farve was a great quarterback, but it was a farse to bring him here. I like Cassel, but Brady may have an extended layoff. Woody and Mike have their work cut out for them."
Hogan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:12am ET"BYE BYE MANGINI. I respect you but you are not ready. I am glad he is gone but do have a feeling 5-10 years from now he will live up to his potential somewhere. Thank good we dont have to hear, consistency, is a function of, and all that garbage anymore. New coach (whoever you are) 1st order of buisness-LOCK UP LEON WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!"
michael Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:14am ET"Favre has one more year and one more year only. He'll be back."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:18am ET"Even though I did not like Mangini as our head coach I still feel for the guy he has a family with 3 young children. He will catch on with someone as a coordinator or a coach which is what I think he is better suited for at this point in his career. He is a young guy with a bright future and I wish him and his family good luck."
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:27am ET"great news now for phase 2 get rid of sutton! I still believe favre can come back under new construction with mini camps getting the whole learning process out of the way he will now be ahead of the game insteadt of playing catchup.they have been thinking for a while they said so it tells me they may have a coach in the works as we type. I would like to see favre 1 more season under good coaching"
sal Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:28am ET"Kristine you just seem to have all the answers, so i guess nobody knows as much as you, to lay this all on one person is a stupid as saying Brett Farve will win the superbowl on his own, A lot is wrong right now, If you think theyll finish better next year your crazy, This Franchise just took another step back,, All the coaches and Gm have to go at this point. Fall guy MGMT it dosnt work"
the real t.o. Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:28am ET"i love brett but i think hes too erratic for us; throwing it up for anyone to catch too many times. but our defense killed most of our season as well as receivers that just couldnt get open!! that was said since the beginning of the season; nothing changed!! vs tenn was the only time we looked good! if we got cowher, its up to him but we gota give ratliff a shot.AXE CLEMENS & PUT IN THE NEW BRETT!"
Mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:29am ET"To me all this stared way back with letting Pete Carroll go. He was the last guy that really loved the team. We have had some great professional coaches since then but in the end career motivated. This team needs some coaching stability and a guy that bleeds Green. Somebody looking for more than 3 or 4 years, and is personally envolved as well as professionally."
SC Jet Nick Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:30am ET"I'm tired of everybody (almost everybody) judging Brett. He wasn't the only change to our roster. Every player helped out in a good way or another. So we didn't make the playoffs. What can you do about it? I'm not ragging any player but not just Brett started losing it when we were on top. Nobody helped. He is one of the greatest players ever and if you're an actual Jet fan, you'll root for him!"
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:30am ET"my god not to rub it in but i could not believe Mangini on the sidelines yesterday he made me feel shamed as a jets fan while sparano was going nuts rallying his troops Mangini just stood there arms folded chewing away confused angry it was a sad day for him so glad that i wont have to look at him anymore.lets get this bus back on the road to redemption GO JETS 09 BABY, NOW I GET TO SEE CHAD CHOKE"
Kyle Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:30am ET"All you haters got what you wanted. Congrats. Welcome to 3 more years of mediocrity. You cant build a system when you constantly change coaches. And you can't blame the coaches for a QB that doesn't know where to throw the ball. And to say they want Brett back shows they have no clue. As long as Woody Johnson owns this team, there will be no SB, end of story."
GManzi Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:31am ET"I know it's a cliche but....WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. Congrats to Chad. Jets front office take note: it's time to clean house and dare I say, DO IT RIGHT this time!!! I've been suffering through this since 1966, let's re-group, re-vamp and GET COWHER!!!"
35 year fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:33am ET"Randy,how bout Bill Parcells coming back to NY? Do you think we can call a pass rush now? Get ready for a complete rebuild ."
John H Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:36am ET"Woody PLEASE, PARCELLS , PARCELLS, PARCELLS , PARCELLS, PARCELLS , PARCELLS , PARCELLS , PARCELLS , PARCELLS , PARCELLS"
jay spencer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:37am ET"I grew up in NY and moved to WI back in 1988. I have never been a big Favre fan. The 3 seasons prior to his last in Green Bay, I think he actually hurt the Packers with his play but hung on in a vain pursuit of the records. In his last year he threw a crucial interception that ended their season. He has been very inconsistent on and off the field for years. He throws 22 int. and Mang. gets fired?"
Jey Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:39am ET"Well, they finished with 9 wins this season. They showed moments of greatness. Favre is not fully to blame. the coaching staff needs an overhaul. Mangini is smart, but not a head coach just yet. He lacks the personality to motivate a team. i know i sound like a broken record, but i am looking forward to next year."
35 year fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:41am ET"This is what happens if you refuse to call a pass rush. You end up looking foolish. The coaching staff needs to go coach the Dallas Cowboys. "
Chris Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:43am ET"Time to retire Brett. All of those millions that Green Bay offered you to stay retired looks pretty good now doesn't it?"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:43am ET"I would like for Favre to return to the Jets next year I would like to see what he could do with a whole off season with the team OTA'S, training camp the whole 9 yards we got him 2 weeks before the season started there was no chemistry between him & the guys for the 1st 1/4 of the season."
Kev Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:43am ET"I think Favre summed it up when he made his pre-game comments to the team. "Let's just go out there and play our game, whatever that is..." Good one, Brett"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:45am ET"What ever we do we need to bring in a D coordinator who blitzs his LB'S in the 3-4 if not we need to scrap it & go back to the 4-3 YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 4 GUYS RUSH THE PASSER ON VERY PASS PLAY"
JOEGNY Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:46am ET"eric mangini juss doesnt fit as a head coach in the nfl this was the team for the jets after being 8-3 people were having thoughs about the jets being in the super bowl but juss got to hyped after beating the titans nd it all started from the 49ers but favre should leave we havevery great back up qbs who waiting to getin nd do some work for the jets "
Robert Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:53am ET"With Brett's age and declining ability, you have to place him in the right system. A system such as he had last year with a 13-3 Green Bay team. This system has to include a coach that oversees all play selections and at times micro-manage Favre's play calling decisions. Favre was on a very controlled program during the Holmgren years and I think that was key to Favre's success. "
Joe Maturo Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:53am ET"Thank God Mangini is gone.. He always looked so dumbfounded on the sidelines, like he didnt even know what was ging on. He never took control of his team as they started slipping just after the Denver game, alot like Randolph with the Mets he just couldnt avoid the collapse of his team and deserves to lose his job. Im just praying that Favre gives us one more year & that we get Bill Cower."
JR Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:53am ET"It is good too see someone paying attention to Mangini and his poor work ethic. It always looked like he was disassociated from the game. Yesterday he looked at some of the players as if to say, I don't give a blank how you play as long as you don't make me do anything. Can we find a coach that really cares about the Jets? How about Chuckie down in Tampa? No more losers ....please? GO JSTE!!! "
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:57am ET"All of you haters have your pound of flesh, you wanted blood you got it.Drew said it best, Favre killed Mangini.Frank, your defending Favre is boderline hysteria, my eyes don't lie! Kristine may agree & a few other Favreiacs, who look at Brett like an infallable god of sorts.Maybe it was Mangini, but to be sure you got the problem all must go , including that overated coach killin QB."
Ken Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:59am ET"Same OLD JETS! Once AGAIN we have to BLOW it ALL up and start ALL over again! I am SOOO tired of this JETS organization! I keep telling you guys it doesn't matter WHO is the coach of the JETS. This organization is CURSED!!! And for everyone who wants CASSEL. Cassel is BACKUP, just like RATLIFF. But u want to pay a (BACKUP) CASSEL big money who only works in a NE system, but not RATLIFF?"
Craig Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:00pm ET"Favre can play another year. Mangini is gone, but it's hard not to let him go after losing the last 4-5 and missing the playoffs. Maybe Holmgren will coach again instead of retire."
always a fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:00pm ET"I want Brett back! I am a Jets fan now, Brett may blame himself but that is the kind of guy he is. There is an entire team that needs work and it is not crazy to believe that they can double the progress they made this year into next year. "
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:03pm ET"Another thing that grinds my gears is people like Ed Duignam, saying if you defend Mangini your not a fan, or others like sal who say if you root for Chad your not a fan.Fans come in all shapes & sizes, some more intense than others. We all can't be Ira. I never call someones fandom into question, just their idiotic comments & anyone can post here casual fan or rabid fan, all opinions are welcome."
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:04pm ET"my love for this team is undeniable. why? i have no idea. born 1/15/69 so since i was 5 days old obviously its been nothing but heartbreak for me. wish i could remember joe willie. ill just have to trust in what my father tells me. im sure, like so many of you all, we let ourselves think this could be the year. i never bought into chad and i still dont. think hes is truley a great person with..."
always a fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:06pm ET"Brett, if you believe this team's management really wants you back, you need to come back. The good you brought this team outweighs any deficit that still exists. You know you can still make a difference and you can still play. You are an expert, and any team can use an expert. Whatever you decide, I will respect & support you. But I will miss you if you go."
R Fox Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:08pm ET"I'm a lifelong fan who thinks what's wrong with the Jets is the owner and senior mgmt. Favre was a bandaid for what was wrong with the Jets to begin with. They kick Pennington to the curb for an old, has been, quarterback who has been nothing if inconsistent this year. This just shows that senior mgmt hasn't a clue. They should resign Mangini, kick Farvre & look for a good QB for the future."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:08pm ET"Not blaming Favre for everything Frank....I was pointing out that Mangini will be the scapegoat. Favre played awful and gets no compassion from this Jet fan. Let the Packer/Jets fans throw flowers at his feet. He played awful down the stretch and let me and this team. I hopE we can get a better coach. We will not get Spags from the Giants. Woody will not hire another 1st year guy. "
GIL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:11pm ET"I love when people say this was a horrible season, we won 9 games people 9 what was the total last year? 4 we can be the best team in football but some of the playcalling has got to go we need to utilize all of the teams resources (ex Leon Washington) and we need to play VG at his original position not convert him, all in all I wish we would have won but thank god New England didn't make it......"
DDude Who Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:12pm ET"I have never been a big Brett Favre fan, but when Chad was traded and Brett was the new QB he was my favorite. But he does still need work, if he wants to stay a JeT"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:18pm ET"incredibly high character. but i never once went out and bought his jersey, never liked him. rubbed me the wrong way after the comment he made to the media about it being a priveledge to cover athletes. anyway i thought maybe favre was gonna be the man. at 8-3 i stood in the store for an hour looking at the favre jersey and finally i pulled the trigger. well, once again, HEARTBREAK. whats next?"
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:22pm ET"looking back at the highlights law cost us big he did absolutly nothing and chad picked up on the corners and safetys and they got smoked.favre throwing in situations was uncalled for when tey run the score when they throw its picks i want suttons head next he should have been the first to go in my opinion then shotty and Mangini but its a start but these corners need wake ups also fire law "
Ken Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:23pm ET"The ONLY reason MATT CASSEL is ANY good is because CASSEL is part of the NE BILL BILCHICK system! That is the TRUTH! U people make NO SENSE! You want to pay big money for a QB DRAFT pick who has NEVER played 1 snap in the NFL & will take 2 or 3 years to learn & develop. But u don't want to see what **(RATLIFF)** can do! You people make NO SENSE! At some point the JETS will have start a young QB"
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:28pm ET"wake up kyle hellllooooo the fins are in the playoffs the falcons are in the playoffs dont tell us we cant rebuild and go foward,woody spent 140mill he is dedicated what are you talking about go back in your closet i represent the my self the hater of Mangini so what 3yrs below 500 record thats a loser, and he turned favre into one as well i hope he comes back.w/new MGTnow go back in your closet "
kaya Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:30pm ET"I agree Ken. We don't need Cassel, who happens to be a system QB. I really like Ratliff and he should be given a shot at running the offense."
jetlag Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:30pm ET"I must say as a jet fan i was absolutely disgusted with the fans. Every home game the stadium is half empty at halftime, we go on the road to hostile enviroments and beat good teams. Maybe we dont deserve a football team, Look at green bay, they were a total disaster all year and not one seat was empty in sub zero temperatures. We are a disgrace to the nfl."
sal Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:34pm ET"This will go on manginis resume, experience, nothing like it, dont trust no one Eric, get rid of players and coaches, before they get you, see ya Cleveland, Dallas, there will be a team for ya, Players are no different than any other worker, lazy at heart, exspecially premaddonas, and Yes men for GM"
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:37pm ET"yeah i got my pound of flesh give me alittle sutton sauce to make it real spicy Mangini is a joke he destroyed that teams will and passion. and ken Cassel will be the starter again for NE and give them more wins next yr we dream of having back ups like Cassel 11-5 please guys a stud and i hate NE brady out knee probs cassel in favre retires we get clemmons lol yeah theres your backup pal"
JET4REAL Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:43pm ET"lets get 4 back and add some coaching that actually knows how to call a play Mangini may have been book smart but that don't fly in the real game situations you have to know how to apply and adapt on the moments notice he just didn't have it so Mangini Lovers there you have it let him assist some where else hopefuly he is done destroying player passion good riddance signed The Mangini Hater"
Mark E. Barrineau Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:53pm ET"On Favre retiring: Heard it all before. Let him take his ball and go home. It's too late for a dignified exit."
DJ Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:53pm ET"I believe like I always have.. PLAY CALLING....PLAY CALLING...If you don't call the right plays, I don't care who is throwing the ball, you won't go anywhere. I could have called better plays than that. So don't put it all on the coach. But someone should have thrown a flag during that return from the endzone. Everyone could see that the dolphins came out of the endzone! Running the ball!!!!!"
Chris L Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 12:57pm ET"They better re-sign washington after next season, he's an all- around player as we know with the record breaking seasons, and as to what KEN said about CASSEL, he's probably worth the money"
OriginalJetFan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:00pm ET"Goodbye Eric, hook on somewhere as an Assistant, you were very good at that, not as a head Coach, tho I,m sure you tried. brett...RETIRE, you only came here to put us deep into the playoffs, that didnt happen, to a part because of you. trying to be the Brett Favre of old is what got you in trouble here. Go to the Hall of Fame , let folks forget this year, 2 in a row like it , they won't."
favrefan4life Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:05pm ET"At the begining they would have loved 9 wins then the expectations changed. I think there is no better player in the NFL, Brett is the reason I watch. The reason I am a jets fan. Brett one more year, you are not perfect but no one is. You came to a new team and took them farther than expected. You will miss the excitment if you don't come back. Just try it again, nothing worth having comes easy!! "
Kathi Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:08pm ET"Send Favre home...He should have NEVER come to the Jets, oh how I wish Chad never left. Mangini leaving...sad...he got the blame for a lot of things that aren't his fault. Maybe the powers that be should look at Schottenheimer...most unoriginal offensiver coordinator I have ever seen. Hey, let's run up the middle...there's a play they'll never suspect! Mangini got a bad rap..."
mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:08pm ET"If they want Brett to come back they should look into getting Mike Holmgrene who retired from the seahawks. He coached Favre on the super bowl winning team in greenbay he would be a great change from Mangini and he would bring a great player coach relationship, but they would still have to get him to un-retire...this situation sounds familiar."
cjames Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:09pm ET"Hey Randy I liked Favre's speech before the game: If we win we win if we lose we lose, just do your best. I love you guys. This sounds like a speech from a complete loser. I think my little sister gets me more amped up for the game and Im not even playing. "
Ira Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:14pm ET"Whoever the coach will be he will be a veteran coach who has had success already in this league. Woody has gone with 3 coaches since he has owned the team who did not have HC experience. This time around it will be different. They will get the right coach and this team will bounce back next year. GO JETS!!!!"
Chuck McMillan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:17pm ET"Management: Please, strongly consider hireing Marty Schottenheimer as head coach. He has a proven track record. Enough said, get it done."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:18pm ET"Oh Mikey Mc stop pouting like a child Mangini dug his own grave with all the nonsensical things he did starting in training camp. He burned out & turned off his players and definitely lost the team. I really hope Favre isn't seriously hurt and will come back with a full offseason of conditioning and learning a new system with whomever that might be this is a team built to win now and he is the guy"
Joe Willie Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:18pm ET"Frank, no sense pulling your punches at this point. You know he is not a good coach. In his only year as coordinator, NE's defense was worse than before or since. He will not work in the NFL again. He made millions here; his kids will eat. Cowher's ONLY SB was gift wrapped by referees/ NFL. Start pushing for Spags now."
joe gallino Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:21pm ET"good luck jet fans with bretts retirement its all about brett u know just wait and see brett is just like TO glad u have him now and not us here in wisconsin"
jay spencer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:21pm ET"Truth be told I bleed blue! I'm a life long Giants fan. But I do like to see the Jets and Bills do well. I'm telling you guys, you're being delusional about Favre. He hurt you this year and he'll do it again next year. Has any team won a SB with a QB that threw 22 ints? If you think it's a bad year for Favre, remind yourself that he has thrown more ints than any other QB in history."
joe gallino Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:25pm ET"why arent u posting my comments"
Randy Lange Said:
"Because you continue to call people names, joe."
Linda L Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:26pm ET"Brett brings so much to a team. He is a leader like no other. Look at the Packers, Arron is a great QB, but he can't win a game. What Brett gives to a team is special. I have been a packer fan all my life,but a would rather watch Brett play anyday. I hope I get another season to follow him. Football will never be the same without him. I hope he is healthy and does what is the best for his family."
matt nuzzi Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:27pm ET"Mike and Woody I would like to say good job standing up for what you too believe is right for the organization plus listening to us the fans because we'll tell you how it is. Now for the draft coming up most Jets fans will tell you to draft a QB..Wrong idea! we need another pass rusher and being that we have a first round pick we should pick up DE Brian Orakpo! He is amazing and also free up jenks"
sal Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:27pm ET"Woody,What system, the palyers that did a full camp, dont know what system, nobody respect the verticle game, and adj. to what was working, Coles is great but he cant do it alone, cherry on the cake defence laid down, looked lifeless, what happened the week w/ denver that is when it fell aprt"
Larry Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:27pm ET"MikeMc. My God is the guy your brother! Nobody hates him we just want to win . You cant place blame on any 1 person but this guy deserved his share. We imploded at the end of his 1st season cause he couldnt prepare for 16 games. I can name a million of his blunders and shortcomings but what kills me most is HE LOOKED LIKE HE JUST DOESNT CARE. Coach, good luck and good fortune to you and yours."
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:30pm ET"NEW YORK JETS SLOGAN: " Come Watch Our Forever Rebuilding Team ""
CEDRIC Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:31pm ET"Hey fellas!!! Frank good call on Mangini, he did have to go especially after the seattle game, But Lord Favre has to go too! He materialized into what a feared, a washed up QB, blame whoever u want but 22INT a coach doesnt throw. Congrats Chad, Bye Mangini, Leave Favre, i hope the DC & OC get the axed as well."
Larry Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:35pm ET"AS far as Favre goes he gets a second helping in the blame game. BUT wait for the MRI. If the guys done by all means let him go. But if he was playing hurt with 2 QBs on the bench whos decision was that? The Head Coach. "
TonyR Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:38pm ET"I hope Favre does come back. I think the Jets meltdown was due mostly to coaching errors, and I'm not surprised that Eric Mangini was fired. This season was much better than last, but the team was eliminated by 3 of the leagues worst teams when it seemed like the playoffs were inevitable. The only good thing to come from the final loss to Miami was the elimination of New England. "
Southernlady Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:47pm ET"I think it's funny some of the people on this blog that call people defending Favre "borderline hysteria". Then go on calling Favre a "Coach Killer". I personally think that's a little "borderline hysteria." And for the record just because you like to see Favre play and are a fan of his does not mean you look at him "like an infallable god." I think Favre makes mistakes but so what."
SHARIF Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:48pm ET"I AGREE..MANGINI WASN'T A GREAT COACH BUT FAVRE DIDN'T HELP HIM OUT EITHER...I WATCH THE FIREING NEWS CONFERNECE AND WOODY JOHNSTON IS ACTULLY GEEDY ABOUT BRETT FAVRE AFTER THIS B.S HE DISPLAYED THE LAST 5 GAMES WHEN IT WAS ALL ON THE LINE...SCHTTY, SUTTON, FAVRE...ALL MUST GO...WE HAVE A GREAT CORE TO BUILD ON JUST NEED PROPER LEADER WITH FIRE IN HIS BELLY TO TAKE US OVE THE TOP.... DECLINED: ABBREV OBSCENITY (BS)"
bob jets fan of 45 years. Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:49pm ET"Woody you did the right thing. Mangini had to go. Now that said go out and try to sign Bill Cowher. Do whatever it takes. 5 years for 50 million or 60 million. Do it for the fans if nothing else. You owe them that much. And if Cowher doesn`t work out look for a coach with a proven winning track record. Nothing less will do."
J Cook Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:49pm ET"Can not beleive that the Jets fired Mangini because he did not make the play offs. Before the season started no one thought the Jets would even have a 500 season, yes and that was with Farve. See if Farve shows up at the Pro bowl, like the interception ratio. I am a life long cheesehead, the Jets had a great season with Mangini and Favre. Farve's just as much at fault as Mangini."
Southernlady Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:52pm ET"The question you have to ask is are the Jets better than they were last year. And the answer is, yes. And like it or not Favre did have something to do with that. When he played well the Jets won when he didn't they lost. Favre has something to do with the fact that last year the Jets were 4-12 and this year they are 9-7. All the players and the management want Favre back. There's the answer."
John Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 1:57pm ET"Hmmmm.....I seem to remember something about Mike Holmgren retiring this year......Mangini's gone now......hmmmmm......"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:04pm ET"Go Chad Pennington. Redemption is sweet isn't it. The Jets fans were so quick to get rid of Pennington (he remembers the boos when he limped off the field last year in a Jets uniform) even when he took them to the playoffs the previous year (I am a Steeler fan and was at the playoff game when Pennington gave the Jets a chance to win, but Brien couldn't come up with the clutch kick). "
35 year fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:06pm ET"Obviously we need Bill Parcells . Whatever that contract costs. Next thing we need to bring in a new QB . Obviously, its not Farve, although he's a nice guy. That's not enough. There is at least a half dozen good young QBs around the league. We can lure one away from a small market into NY. Flaccos' good .Schaub looks good. Penningtons good . Cutler could be lured . Also need a big time running b"
Hogan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:07pm ET"Ken, who said they didnt want Ratliff. Put Him in draft another and trade/release Clemmins. I dont put total blame on Favre or Mangini but both played there part. I agree switching coaches to much can kill u, but to not pull it in with this much talent there is no excuse. Those of you that dont like Mike T. wake up. BEST GM IN FOOTBALL.Like 80% of coaches would have taken our roster ."
ed duignam Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:10pm ET"Who would you blame when Mangini sends Derek Ward, John Abraham, J. VIilma and Chad Pennington packing and all players go on to have Awesome years?????? YES>>>>>MANGINI IS NOW GONE!!!!!!!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"Thank you woody for listening to us fans that do care about pride & winning.. Now go after Dick Lebeau Steelers DC he will fit right in has the fire & knowledge of football keep Westhoff & Callahan Time for Rhatty to get his shot Lowery has to go .. Clemens has his shot unlike Cassel who took the chance & ran with it .. Time to get serious & stop the bleeding that has been the Jets for way 2 long"
michael Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:26pm ET"hey randy i just heard tha our OC and DC got fire is that true?anyone knows if this is true"
Randy Lange Said:
"No truth to those reports, michael."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:35pm ET"Mikey MC Drew Ray time to give it up unbelievable don't you guy's ever give it a rest the majority of us have spoken including the Owner & GM Thank god they listened to reason & not the ranting of you guy's appoligising for incompetence ...Time to move on like Mangini & admit your wrong gracefully instead of acting like spoiled Brats Happy New Year"
Chirag (aka Rob) Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:38pm ET"This is retarded, getting rid of a good head coach when you don't have a clear alternative. Eric has been a good head coach, may have made few bad decisions, but a good coach. Also, REALLY?? Keep Farve?? So, it is a business decision after all, never really thought Farve to be Mangini kind of player...but he sells jerseys."
CFU Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:39pm ET"Should've would've,could've that's all I hear on here. All Favre brought with him this year is his worshippers and Int's. He became the mascot for this team this year and sold jersey's. I just wanted to say thanks to the Packers fans this team would have been Backrupt after all these season pick-ups. Without the Packer/Favre fans we would have lost a lot of money. So thanks : ) "
Jim Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:43pm ET"Packer Fan here... 8-3 with a two game lead... Favre deserved about 50% of his INTs this year but the droppped, kicked, and bobled WR and TE INTs he doesn't control... He brings excitement to the game, you love to watch him play... The 27 yard bootlefg against Buffalo, the six TD game over Arizona, beating the Patriots and undefeated Titans back to back at home... More then just Favre failed...."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:45pm ET"Hello Randy let me ask do you write the column through the playoffs or close up shop ? & I did wish you & yours Including Tim & Eric a very Happy New year with no response I might add lol "
Randy Lange Said:
"Mike, we're open year-round here on newyorkjets.com. Happy New Year to you as well."
andrew in nova scotia Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 2:51pm ET"Did anyone take note of Tannenbaums' comments re special teams performance in yesterdays games .Could Mike Westhoff be the next HC of the NYJ.Would be a good choice from where I'm sitting.Happy New Year to all!!!!"
MikeMc get outta here Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:08pm ET"Favre didnt kill mangini, mangini killed mangini. And to be quite honest, im not a favriac but he is a great player, sure hes a risk taker but to be honest, after 4-12 last year this was a re-building year. And build we did. The problem with this team isnt the players offense or defense, quarterback or kicker. The problem was the coaching and game planning. Glad to see manginis gone."
ray Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:20pm ET"why wasnt tannebaum fired??? He wanted favre and favre failed. how he made the pro bowl is ridiculous. Looks like chad pennington is doing fine in miami. Still think he was the problem. the most accurate passer in nfl history cut for the least accurate in nfl history. Favre does have the int record!!! Not to mention vernon gholston was a great 6th overall pick. FIRE TANNEBAUM. KEEP MANGINI."
AZ Jets Fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:23pm ET"Deja Vu all over again. The Jets did the right thing by firing Mangini. His game management alone cost 2 games this year. Now they need to get rid of Favre and all the drama he brings. He is going to cause the to lose focus on finding a long term QB. Even if he stays another year, what happens then? It was a one year gamble and it didn't pay off. Time to cut your losses and think long term."
Some Guy Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:36pm ET"Well If Favre comes back, he'll have a full training camp and he'll be fully prepared next season. With Mangini gone, and another mystery coach coming into the picture with a new playbook that can be good or bad, the Jets WILL change. Now, Favre should go at it once more. He did mention that he did not enjoy the season with Mangini. And i guess it was the Jets playbook that messed everyone up. "
Drew Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:39pm ET"Frank...Favre was hurt? Couldnt tell as he was throwing lasers around the field. Also hard to tell how his "arm injury" would have stopped his decsion to throw the ball into a DL hands on a screen pass. He played as poor as any QB the last 5 games. There no debating that. He threw the ball up for grabs way too many times. During the 5 game win streak he played great and under control. Not since!!"
Baker Urdan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:45pm ET""Hmmmmm is right...wouldn't that be something with Holmgren and Favre reunited for one more push to the Super Bowl? I'm sure Bret would go for that!"
Bernie Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:46pm ET"Brett is doing to the Jets what he did to the Packers. "Well, I don't know if I'm going to retire or not... I'm not ready to say... maybe I will... or not..." I hope he doesn't hold the Jets hostage like he did Green Bay with his waffling discisions. Geez, Brett, get over yourself!"
draz Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:48pm ET"In all honesty, Mr Johnson should stick to making diapers and not make personnel decisions. Mr Johnson and Tannibum (who should have been fired as well) announced and endorsed Farve for another season. What real good credible coach would come to NY and have no say in a QB. 9 Int's in last 5 games, please. Now I know why Farve was shown the door in GB. DECLINED: NAMECALLING (TANNIBUM), INSULTING (MAKING DIAPERS)"
Rick Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 3:48pm ET"In my honest opinion, I don't thing Favre deserves to be in the prow bowl! "
Allie Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:00pm ET"Jets management makes WAY too may rash decisions. It's like they don't sit down and think about anything. I don't think we should have ever gotten rid of Chad 1st of all. Now you get rid of a head coach who has seriously turned us around but say you would love to keep Favre who spent the last couple of games throwin picks & fumblin... idk He just looked & sounded like he didnt give a crap. "
Marcus Eytcheson Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:05pm ET"Bring in Holmgren or Steve M. & Favre will stay for sure!!! I would love to see him take another crack it with a full off season. I think the team could be great with a little more time together."
Brandon83 Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:36pm ET"Right move was made to fire Mangini. Let's get Cowher!!! He'll be able to handle Farve like he handled Bad Ben!"
35 year fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:43pm ET"Forget cohwer ,and forget holmgren, why go for 2nd fiddle when you could go after Parcells. Thats the only choice here. Lets be honest with ourselves. How many teams has he brought back from the dead. . We need top notch talent to wash away the pain. Look what he did in Miami. Imagine what he could do here. And if your gonna let him make the dinner you better let him shop for the groceries"
Warriorlb55 Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:44pm ET"Anyone who honestly thinks that this season was succesful is a moron! The amount of money that was spent this offseason on creating a winning franchise is unbelivable. They need to clear out the management especially sutton. There has been no pass rush the whole season which led to one of the worst pass defences in the league. The jets accomplished nothing this year expect a disgraful 3rd plac"
dj Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:48pm ET"Agreeing with Marcus, Holmgren or Mooch along with Favre would be GREAT!!!"
Alvin Ealey Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:48pm ET"After three years not fair, I liked his coaching style. Leave the O line alone,get a younger running back,and please give Brett Ratlif a chance at starter. I am kind of glad the jets did not make the play-offs saved me a lot of heartache."
Steve Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:52pm ET"The problem in NY is everything has to be now. Farve didn't do it now, so the best thing for the Jets is for him to retire and move on. I'd like for a change to see the Jets develope some of the talent they already have. Let the three young Qb' s they have fight it out next training camp, and go with the winner. How much worse could it get! Most disappointing season ever!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:54pm ET"I think Parcells is not the answer he is a short term guy we need a long term commitment from a veteran coach/coordinator no rookie coach please Cowher comes to mind but I think he would want total control & Mr. T will not give up his job so I do not think he will come hear. We can look to Holgrem, Billick or Marty Schottenhiemer or we can go Spalango or Lebeau."
35 year fan Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 4:55pm ET"Let the new coach Bill Parcells tell us Farve is done. Then let him develop his choice at QB . Then stay out of his way. Tennembaum needs to take a break. You have done your best , but now lets get Parcells to show us how real football is played again. Please Woody some common sense solutions now are needed. Give him any amount of money and power . He deserves it ."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:06pm ET"Drew I am not making excuses for Favre and I said nothing about him being hurt. I am saying that if he dedicates himself to a full offseason program with the new administration then I want him back for one more year. Mangini had 3 years to dig his own grave. I really want Spagnuolo here he has had great success with the Giants defense and defense is what wins championships."
JP Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:08pm ET"Teams did not figure out Favre, they figured out the whole team! Pats were the first to expose our D and our O, our receivers never get open and we abandon the run. Since Mr. T is not going anywhere, forget about Cowher or Parcels. I say get Brian Billick, Holmgren or Mariucci as HC - they will work well with Favre and Schott if he stays, Romeo C as DC, and update player personnel. "
JP Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:10pm ET"Oh, by the way Randy, I saw you on TV last night! When SNY was interviewing Coles, you were right behind him looking around. I am glad that you are moving up in the world! We got to get you on air!"
Randy Lange Said:
"I assume you have the wide-screen HDTV going, JP."
JP Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:13pm ET"Also, ENOUGH WITH HOW GREAT CHAD PENNINGTON IS! Yes he won and congrats (I knew he would do better on another team) but every big throw he did he under-threw the receivers...our DB never turned around to pick them off!!!"
Rick S Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:13pm ET"I think Favre should come back. Remember, he didn't attend traning camp, didn't know the offense or the players, and took the team to an 8-3 record and leading the division. Things came apart. It's up to the coach to get the players back on track. That includes benching players that aren't playing well, including Favre. Maybe Eric should have rested Brett for a game."
Dennis Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:14pm ET"Favre needs to stay! Get all receivers on the same page and teach them to finish and never give up on the ball, good things will happen. D cord. has to go!"
TyTy Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:15pm ET"the jets screwed up firing Eric mangini next season is going to be a rebuilding season"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:16pm ET"A month ago the jets were actually a Super Bowl contender and then Favre did what he normally does at the end...make bad decisions and lose the game/season.. I am now %100 convinced Brett needs to retire and STAY retired. Like Joe Montana, Brett went to a different team very late in his career and started okay and then crashed hard at the end. "
greenbay4ever Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:25pm ET"I agree completely with Angry Jets Fan. Favre came in with 1 month to prepare and led the JETS to 8-3...players rise to the occasion and the leadership of a true team leader. What was missing during the remainder of the season was the coaching staff's inability to change and grow along with the team. The JETS have A LOT of talent and potential. Imagine what can happen with a full offseason! "
John H Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:30pm ET"Woody you want ticket sales. Parcells will pack the house. You want excitement, you want to go after bellichek?? And most important you want to give the poor loyal New York Jet fans a shot at the title. Get Parcells back please. Its all about believing. Its faith."
mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:32pm ET"all you heard all offseason was how the jets would win by running the ball and playing defense. Yet they traded for a gun slinger. I respect Favre and everything he has done but when they made the trade they went against everything they build in the offseason. We needed a ball control QB ironically like Chad Pennington, even though nobody new how good CP would be this year. Good luck CP."
John H Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:35pm ET"Our whole familly is deep in prayer , we're praying for the return of Bill Parcells. Please god ,let the master return. We have been suffering. We should all say a prayer together. Happy new year Randy"
Bruce Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:45pm ET"I saw a whole team collapsing since the Tennessee game. you can't blame one guy. Favre was in the running for the NFL MVP in the beginning. I saw interceptions after the ball bounced off of receiver's chests. I saw dropped balls, bad routes & bad separation. But the QB will always gets the blame along with the credit. Brett had hardly any time to adjust to a new team & system. Give him a break!"
Bruce Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 5:55pm ET"WOODY & MIKE TAKE NOTICE: Did you notice how much pressure Favre was under these last several games? The opposing QBs seemed to have DOUBLE the time in the pocket, while Favre was being pressured by a lone blitzer who ran through a open gate a mile wide. No one picks up any one, they turn around too late & follow the blitzer right into Favre's face. Favre has to decide what to do in a micro second"
Bruce Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:00pm ET"Favre tries to improvise at the last second because the pressure is ridiculous and he gets blamed for trying to win. Favre has more heart and desire to win than any player I have seen. Yes he has the most interception record, but he also has the most wins by a QB. That's more than Elway, Montana, Marino, ect. That should say something for him! Fix the protection in the pocket people!"
Tim B. Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:03pm ET"please Woody, bring back Czar Parcells so he can put the pieces of our puzzle back together again"
FINSFAN! Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:10pm ET"DOLPHINS AFC EAST CHAMPS!!!! Keep dreaming you sorry Jets' fans."
mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:22pm ET"Please do not bring back parcells back he will do to us what he has done to every other team get them to 10-6 maybe one playoff win then leave them high and dry. We need Bill Cower now there is a real coach. "
MikeMc Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"Larry, Mangini is not my brother, did you notice the "Mc"? I will not cry for Mangini, what is done is done. But anybody with eyes that watched Favre single handedly ruin the season with his idiotic decision making would want to release him also.Favre can use his injury as an excuse but the reality is his reckless behavior with the ball is the reason for the teams poor play.The truth hurts."
FavreFan4Ever Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:01pm ET"I am SO sick of all the talk about Favre going back and forth about his decision to retire. Its the MEDIA that is creating all of this. Give the man some time to make his decision. Everytime someone asks him....which is constantly....then its thrown in his face that he is waffling. Give him room, let him heal from the season....look what happened when GB forced him to decide too early."
jmetz1969 Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:36pm ET"In the huddle Bret should of said guy's get open and don't drop the ball!!"
Psycho Mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:04pm ET"I have never been on the Brett Favre bandwagon. He has hurt this team more than helped. Mangini is a great coach. Woody just screwed up when he chose Brett over Chad. Everyone knows that. BRING CHAD BACK HE IS A JET."
c parnell Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:18pm ET"NO.4'S return depends on who the new coach is. If the head office can convince Holmgren or talk with Mariucci, he will come back."
Bruce Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:34pm ET"Opposing QBs had enough time for a snack while waiting to throw. Where was the pressure? Where were all the blitz packages? Opposing teams always try and pressure Brett Favre because of who he is. They know he will cut you up if given a little time, so they blitzed and pressured well. I'm a retired coach by the way, and a Brett Favre fan forever as well. Hope you come back for a full year Brett!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 8:46pm ET"I am a supporter of Favre & all ways will be .But time to build the team with a big young gun like Rhatty .. He moves well in the pocket has a big arm ,The reason teams are pressuring Brett is hes 1 dimensional right now he can't move any more.Our secondary needs overhaul Law & Lowery out please Please Please Woody & Mike T no Romeo Crennel get Dick Le beau- L Cole go away & get Crabtree TT Kid"
Tea Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:09pm ET"I wish the best to eric, he is a great guy and I have no doubt that he will do well somewhere else ( Just look at CP). BEST OF LUCK!!! We have tramendous talent, we need to be more agressive, I think Brett should stay one more year (if he can) it will help our guys to develop a chemistry. I like Parcels alot, although, we need a coach that will stay with the team more than a year"
Ray Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:17pm ET"wow, mike ex "the human broken record" asking someone to give it a rest. I'll tell you what, I'll give it a rest when you get a clue. So there will be no rest for the weary! you have spent an entire year misquoting, misspelling and making up conversations that never took place. Don't include me in your posts with comments I never made. You were pathetic in week 1 and your still pathetic."
Tea Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:37pm ET"I am a Jets fan as long as I remember myself and sometimes I wonder for some of our fans... I see the same people here that were asking to get rid of CPand now they are complaining about it. well, some of you need to stop been such hipocrits. I am glad he is doing great in Miami, lets face it, he was not a big help for us."
Brandon D. Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:07pm ET"I would love to have Eric Mangini on the Steelers coaching staff as a coordinator now that he got booted from the Jets! I don't think I have to say much to Mr. Spicer anymore, Chad backed me up with his performance on Sunday as I knew he would! Now he is in contention for MVP honors and is gaining respect. I would like for Favre to come back though to end on a good note...not an INT."
Jets fan in PA Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:18pm ET"I'd like to see Farve QB in 2009, if his shoulder's OK. If Farve & the Jets have the benefit of training together from day 1 - I think they'd go the distance. I hope releasing Mangini wasn't a rash decision. Good beer, good cigars, good brandy, good wine - aren't made just by tossing good ingredients together - they age & develop that chemistry that makes them good. Same for building a team."
Mike in NJ Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:53pm ET"Randy... What would the Jets have had to give the Packers as compensation if Favre missed the last 3 games with his injured shoulder? Something was clearly wrong with his shoulder for a while."
Randy Lange Said:
"Mike, I am not privy to the conditions of the trade, but once Favre passed his physical in August, I'm pretty sure any aches and pains he suffered with the Jets goes on the green and white side of the ledger and not the green and gold side."
Mike Said:
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:00pm ET"One thing no one can question about Favre is his heart. "what happens happens just play as hard as you can" is what he said and he played with all his heart and took some nasty hits this season at 39 years old, got back up and got back into the huddle. Probabley the last play of his career he got absolutely leveled. I hope he retires so he doesnt come back to this mess of a team."
William Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 12:21am ET"It really comes down to whether or not Brett is healthy enough to play and if he still enjoys the game enough to give it another year. Given his age, there are better quarterbacks in the NFL -- but not much better. And they play for other teams. Without all the off-season drama and late addition to the team, Farve can start the season in sync with his receivers. "
Anthony Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 1:04am ET"So torn.... Brett - Yes, I was proud to be at what could possibly be your last game. Jets ? Another 20 years in NJ, PSL to fans who have had seats passed down through generations , Not looking harder at coming back to NY.... I just dont know guys, I just dont know............"
Cornelius Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 1:23am ET"Hopefully Brett is healthy for another year and Bill Cowher is the new Jets coach. That is destined for greatneass. Oh yeah, sign Leon Washington to a new deal!!!!!!!!! "
Howie D Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 2:41am ET"Forget about Farve. He's at best a 50/50 gamble who at times didn't seem to care about his blunders. His pre game pep talk said a lot. We have pro bowl caliber players and young QBs who if coached properly can return the Jets to respectability within a season. Ryan and Flacco are living proofs. We need coaches who will utilize talent, adjust as the game goes, and bench even non-performing stars."
mikeod Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:08am ET"chad pennington is a class guy..... ,he always was very fragile and prone to injury (remember opening day last year against the pats) in 2007 he had many multiple interception games, including 3 against the giants and half dozen fumbles......ultimately gimmicks like the wildcat won't work hand miami will have to rely on the arm of their qb to win in this league as we found out in 07"
Maryann Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:23am ET"I am tired of hearing Farve should come back to prove he still has it. Well he already proved that he doesn't at the expense of season ticket holders who actually wrote checks for thousands. Move on. Cassel? Maybe. I am tired of being called a "long suffering Jet Fan" but it seems that what we all always are. Sad."
Kevin Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 9:29am ET"Sadly this is another bad chapter to add to a long line of disappointment with this team. If Cowher is not the guy the Jets get I am rather sure whatever move they make will be the wrong one. The best way to predict future behavior is past behavior. Not a good track record here. We're screwed then as fans. I will believe when it happens and by that time I would be shocked!!!!!! Happy but shocked!!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 9:59am ET"Ray still whining?oh well guess not much else you can say to defend your incoherent comments.. Except to insult people who go against what you believed instead of being adult about being wrong .. I' m not surprised though didn't expect any better from you .Let me say again they have meds for what you have & therapy works wonders today .Sorry I was right all year but guess you have 2 deal with it"
Richard Of New jersey Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:32am ET"all i got to say is this it was not favre that lost the GAME at all it was the defense that fell apart the second seattle ran the ball all over them and all the wast coast teams destoryed us FAVRE THIS MESSAGE IS TOO U REDEEM URSELF GET IN THAT LOCKER ROOM AND PROVE TO EVERYTHING THAT UR GOD cuz to me u are just cuz ur 40? VINNY TESDERVADE IS 46 like come on guys favre still got the cannon "
ray Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:52am ET"Favre was terrible this year please. everyone stop falling for the "magic of favre." his magic was ten years ago. Favre gave us one game and that was against the cards. The other games where won by having the afc leading rusher jones and the defense. Defense started slacking when we would get a turn over, and Favre would unnecessarily throw one up and give it right back. Oh and Fire Tannembaum"
ed duignam Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:59am ET"I would like to take this time to wish all of you a Happy New Year, the passion and concern shown on this board throughout the year shows that Jet fans are truly engaged and have much discernment in a broad spectrum of issues. Take time to thank the Lord for your blessings, and take time to make a difference in someone's life this year....the world will profit greatly from your charity! ED"
scjoe Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 2:49pm ET"How in the name of everything holy can anyone say it was not Favre who lost this game, or any of those seven losses to mostly inferior teams? You don't think those 22 INTs had ANYTHING to do with blowing this season? C'mon, get a grip on realty. I bleed green, have for 49 years, but if he comes back, I am done!!!!!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 2:58pm ET"Brandon did you watch the game ? Chad had 200 yards high school kids throw for that the Jets lost that game cause Favre had 3 INT'S. & Miami's D played well & the Jet D played poorly again Chad MANAGED the game the TD to Fasano horrible throw Fasano had to turn around mid stride to make a great catch. His 40 yard pass to Ginn was such a duck that Ginn had to run back to the ball to make the catch "
Tom Spicer Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 3:03pm ET"& the TD to Ginn he pushed off on Lowery & the announcers even said it. This week when the Ravens come to town & they play a real D with coordinator that is not scared to blitz write this down CHAD IS GOING TO BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS the Raven D is going to smack him in the mouth & if by some chance some crazy thing happens & Miami sneeks by the Ravens next week at Pitt he is DONE"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 3:54pm ET"COWER is the best candidate for the job & i'd gladly accept him into the JETS family as long as he has some extra TERRIBLE TOWELS hanging around to give the staff & players when he yells & spits in everybodies faces. hahahaha"
al from wi Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 4:11pm ET"it seems obvious to me that many jet fans do not understand the game. they just simply run off at the mouth. The jet season was really quite good and most of all fun to watch. "
scjoe Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 5:28pm ET"al from WI....The season may have been fun to watch if you were not a real Jet fan, just a Favre fan,like yourself. I didn't see a whole lot of fun going from 8-3 to finishing 9-7 and out of the hunt, and I can assure you, I understand the game very well!"
Ray Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 6:05pm ET"Yes mike ex, my rants probably are incoherent to you since they are in a language that is foreign to you ENGLISH!! You think the Jets season or mangini getting canned made you right somehow. Sorry the ends don't justify your lunar logic. Your pathetic now and next year and the year after that and the year after that and the year after that and the year after that and the year.."
LScott Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"I've watched the Jets since Namath, and this is the first year I've been excited. Favre brought the excitement, the wins will follow. Go JETS! Go Favre!"
chekov Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 7:53pm ET"I think brett did a fine job, he did what he could with this team. the coaches and the play book did not help his game. toward the end of the season his bad play can be blamed on the line play. if they did their job he would not be hurt and would be able to throw better and make def. play better."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 7:54pm ET"JET fans do not understand the game & run @ the mouth? What team did you watch??? If you were a real fan & dedicated as much time as most all true JET fans, you'd know w/all the high priced players brought in & a coach nicknamed ManGenius, NOTHING less than playoffs were expected & paid for..."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:10pm ET"To Richard of NewJersey - I know Favre still has a cannon (U can still see the zip) BUT I CAN TELL HE DONT HAVE THE HEART FOR THE GAME ANYMORE... He's DONE - For him to "awww ummm iiiii awwww im not sure yet" that tells me he dont have that fire inside anymore that the QBs who rode the bench this last season do. they should have benched Favre.. Best QB ever but HE'S DONE"
Jets fan since '64 Tom Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:44pm ET"Anonymous, Jet fans were not "so quick" to give up on Chad, they did so 'cause he was often hurt, often threw badly, rarely took chances, rarely scored in less than 7 minutes. One well-"managed" season doesn't make him anybody's future. 232 comments, only one other than this even mentions Ainge. Jets have often given up early on big draft choices but better not with Ainge, Gholston, Lowery..."
Drew Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 8:49pm ET"Al from WI is the reason why Packer fans should not make root for Favre and the Jets. You can take Favre and his careless play back to cheese town. Tell me exactly what was fun to watch Al? Favre throwing 9 pics in the last 5 games? The Jets defense leaking like a sieve after playing great the first 10 games? Getting beat by crap teams to miss the playoffs? Please help us understand the game Al"
Brian Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 9:11pm ET"For the first time in 35 years I found myself rooting against the Jets this Sunday. It's good to see Chad going to the playoffs. I would have loved to have seen him run this Jets offense with a real running attack. Go away Favre. I want my Jets back."
rick Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 9:54pm ET"Favre needs to realize his age and know that he was once great but now washed up, be honest with the team and let them move on with a younger quarterback. Grow up Brett! the whole NFL is younger than you, get a job as a coach or a commentator if you really still want to be in football."
Anonymous Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:48pm ET"I personally think the jets should look into rex ryan from the ravens as head coach"
Bruce Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:50pm ET"Brett's passing stats for 2008 - Completion Ratio #5 First Downs #7 Touchdowns #9 Passing Yards #11.....Yes his final rating was #21 but that was because of the interceptions in the last 5 games. Overall Brett played pretty dang good for being almost 40 and being pressured way more that other QBs were in the league. Plus he came into a new system after the season had started. Lay off of him!"
Row Said:
Tue, December 30, 2008 - 11:56pm ET"Randy, can you help me out? How many wins did Favre have this season with 35 or more attempts? With TJ 20 or more? My point is no team can pass block 35+ times a game and be successful... "
Randy Lange Said:
"Rpw, when Brett Favre threw 35 or more passes in a game, the Jets were 1-4. When Thomas Jones ran 20-plus times, they were 5-1."
Anonymous Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 12:54am ET"A typical Jet fans , you blame Favre for this ......get real and understand that it takes more than one individual to lose a game....this guy is what he is, a gutsy competitive gunslinger who has been the signature player in the NFL for the past 17 years ....you get what you get with Favre. He can come back to Green Bay any time ...He is my guy!"
Chris Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 2:08am ET"When you have Favre as your quarterback you must learn to take the bad with the good. That's just the way he is. And that will never, ever change. For those of you that say,"Go Away Favre", I think you should remember that if you didn't have Brett believe me NO ONE in the NFL would even be talking about the Jets. Because you have Brett people now remember that they are two teams in New York. "
Jets Fan since '64 Tom Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:33am ET"So Favre's had a serious injury to his throwing arm since mid-season -- is anybody all that surprised, given how he threw before that? Only a guy who never missed a start would even TRY to play hurt like that, a similar injury put Chad down twice. You get sacked 30 times and knocked around even more, this is what happens and it won't matter who the QB is until that problem is fixed."
dougAOWNER Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 9:15am ET"Congratulations Jets fans, you are now invited to enjoy Brett Favre's end of the season song and dance routine. A performance he perfected in Green Bay. Yes, I am Packers owner along with 170,000 other fans."
Cal Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:24am ET"Hahaha I am so glad my Packers don't have to deal with this will he or wont he retire thing this year!!!"
Jeff Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 12:23pm ET"Yes doug I was once a packer fan two and loved the "song and dance" for years until the packers turned their back. How did that work out. They wanted Rogers for the playoffs but they didn't see that they couldn't make it without Brett. Now the NY jetts played their best in years."
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 12:48pm ET"All you Packer fans coming on saying that we have to deal with Favre saying he is not sure if he is going to play or not STAY ON YOUR SITE & WORRY ABOUT BEONG 6 & 10 IN A GARBAGE DIVISION "
harry-o Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 12:54pm ET"J-E-T-S..... METS, METS, METS !!! two collapses in three months goog for you Chad, really, good for you."
Anonymous Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 2:57pm ET"Pennington wins second Comeback Player award...Great Move... No wonder why we can never go all the way..."
Stephanie Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:39pm ET"I'm just confused. Brett went 13-3 with the youngest team in the league last year. Chad had losing seasons every other year with the Jets and didn't play well last year. hello!? that's why the Jets got rid of Chad and got Brett Favre. It was a gamble, but what reason did the Jets have to keep Chad? "
zach ezman Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 4:43pm ET"just end the seaoson..lol right??? we shoukd end the 09 season now before we start...the new schedule came in and every team is a winning team in the 08 season...even with a strong new coach, an aging Farve, or who ever else comes to the team in the off season, its going to be tough for the greensterz next year..RIP MANGANI jets fan will miss ya...."
Stephanie Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 5:17pm ET"did anyone else notice during the game that at least 2 if not 3 of Chad's throws should have been intercepted? The defense just didn't capitolize. and on both of his TD's the receivers had to make plays. I guarantee that if Brett threw those same throws, they would hve been intercepted. and the last INT by Brett was a miscommunication. it went right through Stucky's hands. "
Anonymous Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 6:59pm ET"I like the jets i think they have a good future with Brett favre on the team all that need to happen is the defense need to step up more and stop important plays but I heard that the new coach might not want favre any more because he didnt do to good this year and his contract is ginjg to go up to 13mil contract but give the man a break he was playing with a torn bicep give the man a break ."
roberto o Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 7:37pm ET"A GB Packers fan and forever a Favre fan. I hope he is healthy for a full season. I watched him work his stuff for a team that made important changes before knowing that he was coming. Chad fit Miami. Opportunity comes take it. I believe that Brett will decide in Feb. if he retires for real. He helped himself and the team. He showed he could play. He is a leader and enjoys the game. "
pat Said:
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:04pm ET"A new head coach! Favre can get his shoulder fixed and th Jets will get it done! Brett can" walk away like this!"
Arkansas Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:27am ET"Farve can't do it all himself. He needs help. However, he is a big part of the problem. Very poor decisions, especially in Miami game. Tried to force the ball too many times as he was able to do when younger. Brett's "if we win we win, if we lose we lose" pep talk stinks. Not much leadership there. If all you read about Chad and his leadership for the fish is true, he helped them win. "
Stephanie Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 10:40am ET"I just read that Favre's teammates are ripping on him. nothing sickens me more than players ripping apart their own teammates. I wouldn't come back to that if I were Brett."
Richard Romano Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 11:15am ET"Randy, This is an "O" line question: Do you know how many times Farve was sacked or hit hard after the play in the last five games vs say Chad?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Richard, a tough question because I watched only one of Miami's last five games, vs. the Jets. One measure would be from the NFL's play-by-plays for each game. In Brett Favre's last five games, he was sacked nine times and (unofficially) hit 22 times. In Chad Pennington's last five games, he was sacked three times and hit nine times."
Anonymous Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:46pm ET"Been jet fan since late 60's ! jone's ,rhodes make comments about farve not giving it his all.................................................................well you both need a wakeup call! farve retire! you don't need to play with these two children! NO LONGER JET FAN and chad?? ravens will give you a wakeup call............................."
John Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 1:54pm ET"After following Brett for 17 seasons, he's been an incredibly fit athlete. despite being 39. For the last 4 years at GBP, management has instilled in him self-doubt. He has doubted playing for 4 years now. That self-doubt left over from GBP has to be removed. Brett needs to learn to play freely again. He's still got fire in the belly. Let's see what the MRI says and what the Pro Bowl reveals. "
Richard Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 3:18pm ET"Thanks Randy, So in the last 5 games Brett was sacked 3- times per game hit 4+ times for a total of 7 times per game vs Chad Penningtons 2.4 total per game. I bet Brett would give anything for an "O" line like that. Next question: How many sacks and hard hits after the play hits did Brett have in the first 11 games of the season."
Randy Lange Said:
"I get time and a half for holidays, Richard. In the first 11 games Brett Favre was sacked 21 times and was hit 34 times. I want to stress, though, that stat crews around the NFL have different definitions for "QB Hit," so these totals, like tackle totals, are unofficial and in my opinion inconsistently compiled."
michelle Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 4:46pm ET"Watching a bowl game this morning I saw the comments made by an "anonymous" Jets player about Favre. Man up!! If you are going to talk about a teammate, negative or positive, at least have the guts to admit who you are. My feeling is that if youn can't do that your opinion is worth about as much as your coach. Oh, I mean ex-coach. Forever a Favre Fan "
Anonymous Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:03pm ET"I'm a Packers fan here to chime in on the subject. Watching Brett play football is a lot more fun when you don't care who wins the game. He has to be one of the toughest men to ever play the game, I've never seen him give up on a play, or game, or even a fellow player. He's always gone back to a receiver after mistakes have been made. But that competitveness may also be a problem for him. GoodLuck"
Steve Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 7:30pm ET"Randy, do you no who started this year for the jets who are now going to be a free agent?"
Randy Lange Said:
"No, Steve, I don't have that list. But when it is available, we'll let you know."
Jan Said:
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 8:10pm ET"Watching the Jets play this year was great.....only reason I watched them is because of Favre....he is a awesome player, and he plays for the team win.....I am hearing what jones said on the radio .....man that really gets to me..... in that rate the whole team should have been benched for the way they played....and he should have been benched many games for fumbles, not gaining any yards......"
Bruce Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 1:40am ET"Hey Thomas Jones, this message is for you. That's pretty low of you to rip on a teammate like that behind their back! As far as I am concerned you have no class at all. I have followed Brett's career since day one and if any back fumbled or if a reciever dropped a ball, Brett would personally tell them not to worry about it come right back to them. He always had a teammate's back! But not you!"
Allie Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 2:13am ET"Are you all even hearing the comments the jets are making about favre? defend him all you want... clearly there's a problem."
sharon Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 9:46am ET"Thomas Jones: Has Brett ever publically criticized any teammate ever in public for not catching a pass..for not running the correct route? For anything? Brett has been a true team player all his life working with management on salary caps, and putting in extra practice hours with traded and new draft players, particularly 3 years ago under new GB coach & management. An apology is due Brett. "
Abigail Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 10:35am ET" For all the talk about Brett- can anyone please comment on all the dropped balls that were went directly to them. Seems to me there is plenty of blame to go around. How many times I heard commentators say "Favre laid that right in there" - then plop. All the receivers should look at themselves in the mirror as well."
tomahawk 4 Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:41pm ET"amazing I sent a comment two days ago and its not posted. a true fan stands by ALL THE PLAYERS. WIN AND YOUR GOD LOSE AND ITS BACK STABBING TIME. TEAM MEANS ALL PLAYERS SHOW UP .for a player to disrespect another shows NO CLASS look at yourself 1st what did you do. Coaching was bad nospark or fire your record was better with #4 but blame him. maybe your better w/out him bet your worse. "
girlview Said:
Fri, January 2, 2009 - 5:40pm ET"Brett Favre has improved the Jets. There's a lot more excitement for the team with his strong arm as a great tool. This is witnessed by how many more comments end up on the blogs! I sure hope Brett returns, and the other super stars that came this year decide to gel for at least one more year. Unfinished business. Never show a fool half a job. It takes 2yrs to reach The Big Game."
Sigfried Heil Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 12:01am ET"Oh great. He doesn't know if he is coming back again. Where have I heard that before? Lets decide for him. Goodbye mister interception. Can we get Chad back from Miami? Will Miami take Brett as a trade for Chad? Maybe the Pats will take Favre for Cassell? Favre was a complete waste of time."
Sue Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 12:58am ET"I agree that Thomas Jones owes Brett an apology. Brett NEVER trash talks anyone. Your Jets were pretty pathetic last year and for the most part, did well this year. You have many great players and I don't like to see any hating going on. Brett please come back and play anywhere in the NFL. I was a Packer fan for over 45 years, now a Jets fan also, and will be a fan of yours forever."
WestCoastTad Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 12:22pm ET"This long distance fan marvels at short memory of Jets fans, media boobs, and Monday morning QB's. 18 months ago Clemens was the future,operating with a terribly leaking O line, beat up core of receivers, and weak running game. He has never been given the chance to be tested. I believe his numbers would have surpassed Favre's this year. Favre is over, let's test Clemens for real."
Barbara Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 1:22pm ET"I lived the last 16 years with Brett Favre as our Quarterback here in the great state of WI, no one was more disappointed when he left, but I was thrilled that he went to the Jets and he did a great job....all the mud throwing is because defense did not do their job in protecting him. Don't blame it on one person. He brought you way farther than you ever could have gone without him."
jennifer little Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 6:34pm ET"Brett better come back, watching football will never be as much fun without him!!!!!"
pat Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 6:44pm ET"I've written before but have never seen my comment anyway-Jets'-do whatever you have to do but bring back Favre! I'm from Calif and we love watching Brett. The beginning of the season was fantastic- I'm afraid he thought the team was better than it was and Mangini was not a good fit. I got tired of watching him mouthing criticisms toward Favre from the sidelines. What has Mangini ever won? Bret"
Marie Said:
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 9:19pm ET"Definitely takes more than one player to make a team successful, but Favre did an amazing job improving the Jets this season. Proved to the Packers that he still had some fire in him by having a better season with a "lesser" team (on paper). Had the packers kept him, they would probably be in the playoffs. Instead they foolishly traded him and he nearly got the Jets to the playoffs. Props 2 Favre!"
Karen Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 12:06pm ET"Favre Please play one more year- I have never enjoyed football until i saw you play for the Jets . My Sundays this year have been worked around watching the games- use to be worked around avoiding them - I am a fan now whether you play or not but please - one more year.."
Blake Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 12:10pm ET"Brett is one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. Hes still got something to bring to the league and the Jets. Ya weigh in the age, the years played, the Green Bay stuff but its just about playing ball. If hes a Jet next year, it is unfinished business, and time for take off."
CD Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 12:42pm ET"Brett never promised the Jets anything more than trying to win games. For a QB to come to a new team late in the Pre-season, learn a new offence and coaching staff is hard, but to live up to everyone's expectations is even harder. I hope Brett comes back to finish what he and the Jets started. The game will never be the same without him! "
Bruce Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 8:59pm ET"I wonder if any Dolphin player is going to rip on Chad for throwing 4 interceptions in 22 minutes and losing the playoff game??? I doubt it because they have more class than a certain Jet player does on this team. Chad, don't worry about it, you'll get them next year! You are a classy guy just like Brett is and everyone makes mistakes in football. (Well except for Jet running backs and receivers)"
TJ from Green BY Said:
Sun, January 4, 2009 - 10:09pm ET"Brett is the best! Media demanded immediate decisions about his retirement, then said Brett was indecisive. He was 'pushed" to retire by Ted Thompson who couldn't live in Brett's shadow. With a new team, system, & division, Brett helped the Jets improve dramatically. With an injured bicep he kept battling! No matter what he decides,.. GODSPEED BRETT, THE WAY YOU PLAY IS HEROIC - THANKS !!!!"
stephanie Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 12:05am ET"so should Miami have benched Chad Pennington today in the second half since he already had 2 INTs (one returned for a TD) and 0 TDs in the first half? no of course not...just liked Favre SHOULD NOT have been benched either. I wonder if Jones would have said the same thing about Chad in the same situation."
Tammy Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 8:00am ET"Whatever Brett Farve decides about his future with football, is his own choice. Has anyone ever thought for a minute that Brett is so passionate and dedicated to what he does, that his mind and body are not communicating. Just like an older dog that has joint problems and stiffness, but still wants to frolick and play ball. Then his body says "hold up." I think he is the greatest!"
Heidi Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:02am ET"I wonder if we are going to hear from Coles or Jones on Chad's 4 INTS in 22 minutes. I guess he should have been benched too. When they never make a mistake then they can "call out" a team-mate. "
Don from MS Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:05am ET"It is all about chemistry, when you play with a team and your players for several years you you have a feel for what they will do. If favre comes back the Jets will be better next year. Favre opened up the running game 4 Jones. The jets defense needs some major work, they got burned most of the year. Offense is good, need 1 more gooooood wide receiver. Get washington more involved in offense."
CD Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 11:51am ET"Tjones probably needed reprimands from coaches. Farve knows when he has goofed and is willing to admit it after all, he is one of the best QB's of all time! Jones and Coles don' t have a clue! Where is The Chemistry boys? Go Jets & GO Favre!"
Kim Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 12:34pm ET"Brett Farve if healthy enough fans would love to see him back next year and if the Jets get Bill Billick wow what a combo"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 4:45pm ET"leon washington is so fast id love to see him get the ball more but hes not big enough like tommy jones to break thru lines. they should toss more screens and short dump off passes to washington and let him run to pick up an additional 10 or so yards. they dont utilize washington as much as they should just like they didnt run with jones as much in 2007 "
Dan Said:
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 12:55pm ET"I'm as in awe of Brett's achievements as anyone.However,his time has come & gone.He has the ability to motivate and inspire.However, in every game, I was certain he'd to throw at least 2 interceptions.He rarely let me down & sometimes exceeded expectations.We tried the one man superbowl train theory.It didn't work.Management needs to accept that, make Bretts decision for him & find a new QB. "
Bruce Said:
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 3:05pm ET"Sorry Dan, but you are WRONG about Brett Favre. He did NOT throw at least 2 interceptions in each game this year. There were games he threw ZERO interceptions. Earlier in the season hei name was being mentioned for MVP. More than half his interceptions can be blamed on the receivers, collapsing pockets & blitzes not being picked up at all. It was also a completely new system as well. Ease up dude"
ANGELO Said:
Tue, January 6, 2009 - 11:40pm ET"So what's next with the QB SITUATION?..We pick favre up for a year and have an o.k season!! ARE WE GOING TO PICK UP ANOTHER VETERAN OR MAYBE TRADE SOMEONE FOR A GOOD DRAFT PICK??? There are plenty of QB'S OUT THERE..MATT CASSEL, BRADY QUINN, DEREK ANDERSON AND QUITE A FEW OTHERS. WE CAME ALONG WAY FROM A 4 AND 12 SEASON TO A 9 AND 7...AND FIRING MANGINI WHY? WELL I GUESS WE WILL SEE."
Mike V Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 12:20pm ET"If Favre retires we start over. AGAIN! Clements isn't even close to being the guy. The Jets should trade for Colt Brennan before the 'Skins figure out how good he really is. He could spend a year learning behind Favre. If that isn't possible we need to figure out a way to put a deal together and grab Bradford. No Favre no playoffs in 2009. "
richard Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 12:54pm ET"OK now that most of the big name QB's (including the MVP and most improved) have been eliminated can we please welcome Brett back to our locker room? I am sure he is aware of these blogs and it will weigh on his decision, I for one want to thank him for a much improved season and bringing energy to the stadium. Last licks are always the best. Brett commit to the team for one more year."
Luis Beach-Olas Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 6:48pm ET"Brett Favre for 2 more years.... 2 WR that can get free and an OL that will protect, a defense like the one who played Buffalo at Buf, NE at NE and Tenn at Tenn. then we can make the playoffs and get a run at the SB... everything is said......Amen!"
John Said:
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 7:56pm ET"Brett needs time away on his ranch to think things over. We have another indicator to watch - Pro Bowl Feb 8. How he does there will give us a glimpse of what's going on. Did the tendon heal? If not, surgery or retire. All Jets have to get the element of DOUBT out of Brett's head that was planted there by Green Bay. He's been doubting himself for the last 5 years. Enough already. Wait for Feb 9."
Scott Said:
Thu, January 8, 2009 - 12:43pm ET"is Brett the future?? I love the clandestine H.O.F.er as much as the next guy, however if we are still rebuilding (after 40yrs since our last SB) then let us realize Brett is a temporary fix at best. "
robert Said:
Thu, January 8, 2009 - 1:25pm ET"thing is Scott with free agency all teams have short fixes at every position every 2-3 years. you cannot have long term and solid at every position and be under the cap. With the money paid to the o line and if they would go get a solid wr in free agency farve would be a pretty solid fix for another year don't you think? everyone needs to get out of the rebuild mind and build around whats there!"
robert Said:
Thu, January 8, 2009 - 1:39pm ET"Woody dropped the ball with mangini! Jets showed they had talent just not time to become consistent with Farve comming in August. With a tough 2009 schedule, Keeping Mangini, getting Farve to come back, adding a veteran #1 WR, and a whole preseason of timing and consistency would have taken them to the playoffs. Now it's impatient rebuilding again after a 9-7 season. It makes no sense. "
TO-NY Said:
Mon, January 12, 2009 - 11:58pm ET"Please keep Bret, the enemy u know is better than the 1 u dont. get a power fullback w/TJ. Big time wide out and get rid of LC. Our RB's are great, WR's r good, d-line was near top in sacks, secondary questionable. BEGGIN to stop hearing about the G-boys. PRIDE JETS fans PRIDE Pay the $ get a GREAT COACH n give him the POWER"
sucildjetsfan Said:
Wed, January 14, 2009 - 7:46am ET"There is more to being a QB than having strengh and youth. With experience comes leadership and cunning. We have two pro bowl running backs. If the Jets can find a run minded offensive coordinator to preserve Brett Farve's arm for when he really needs it, maybe he can stay strong for a season. Last season we threw at the worst times. I would take a broken Farve than half the Qbs out there."
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Drew Said:
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 11:11pm ET"The Favre trade was a great risk for this franchise but it completely backfired. He played as bad as I have ever seen for a 5 game stretch. Plus he played great in 3 of the 5 previous games during our win streak.. His decsion making was just awful. It amazes me how quickly his game fell off. Again, Im not for firing Mangini but if he is he can thank Favre for a huge part of this team fall"
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