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12/22 — There are just no simple answers.
The Jets, a team many pegged for the Super Bowl a month ago, lost their third game in four Sunday in Seattle. They no longer control their own destiny and are in third place in the AFC East, a game behind both the Patriots and the Dolphins with one game remaining in the 2008 regular season.
“They played good,” said DE Shaun Ellis of the 4-11 Seahawks. “We just didn’t get it done. I don’t have any answers. We just lost.”
Just like a snowflake that fell Sunday in Western Washington, no game is the same. But this defeat resembled a couple of other contests the Jets played on the left coast as the points were hard to come by and the home team made all the critical plays.
What happened?
“I can’t really say right now,” said an emotional David Bowens. “The main thing is we got outscored, so however we prevent points or we get points — those are things we didn’t do today. Right now it’s hard to say what we did bad or what we didn’t do good. We’ll just go watch film tomorrow and see what’s going on.”
After back-to-back wins over the Patriots and the Titans, the Green & White were 8-3 and the talk of the National Football League. But there was that home hiccup to Denver in the rain and the slide continued a week later in the Northern California sun against the 49ers. The Jets averted disaster last week when Ellis scored a late defensive TD, but then they slipped once more in the Seattle snow.
“I don’t know if 'collapsed' is the right word. We didn’t finish the deal — we didn’t finish the deal,” said veteran RT Damien Woody. “That’s the easiest way that I can really comprehend this thing. It was all right there in front of us, but we didn’t close the book on the thing.”
If the Jets are to change their ending, they have to somehow find a way to regroup and beat the Dolphins at home. And even if they complete that mission, they’ll need the Patriots to lose to the Bills in Buffalo or the hot Ravens to fall at home to the Jaguars.
“We still have a game to play and that’s a positive thing about the NFL,” said WR Laveranues Coles. “Anything can happen. We just have to get back to what we do and come up with some things during the week and beat Miami.”
While the Jets haven’t gotten the results they’ve desired, they haven’t quit. Head coach Eric Mangini sees their work ethic on a daily basis and he didn’t unload on his players when he met with them in the losing locker room.
“He’s proud of the way we’ve been working, man. We just haven’t been getting it done,” said WR Jerricho Cotchery. “Everyone has put in a lot of work and it’s not translating into Sundays. It’s not translating at all.”
J-Co said third downs have been “killing” New York’s AFC representative offensively as nobody was looking for excuses on this wintry day.
“It was rough conditions but it was good football weather,’ Coles said. “They had to deal with the elements the same way we had to deal with the elements.”
“We practiced in it Friday,” added Bowens. “They played on the same field as we did and they won, so that’s an excuse.”
The Jets, who endured lengthy weather delays on both ends of their cross-country trip and didn't return to their Florham Park complex until 5:30 AM EST, are in the middle of a December storm. But they still can get to 10 wins next week and maybe they’ll get a little help, too.
“Our guys know what is at stake, have worked extremely hard, they’ve said the right things and have been good teammates,” said QB Brett Favre. “It just didn’t work today. If we could play like we did against New England and Tennessee every week, we’d be hard to beat. I don’t have all the answers.”
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (174)3rd&wayne Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 6:56am ET"this is ALL on the coaches. we have TJ and the OC only runs him 17 times? in snow!? and sutton has to go. no pass rush/urgency until the 4th qtr=no game plan. mangini blew this too by coaching scared. watching feely on the sideline after being pulled SAYS IT ALL. there is no confidence between the players+coaches. mangini wants consistancy? he's got it, the nyj coaches consistantly choke. "
Quan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:08am ET"Everyone of the jets are saying "we don't know what happened" as if they weren't at the game. The biggest problem the jets face is their own defensive coordinator. The Denver Broncos wrote the recipe on how to beat us a few weeks back, and that is to spread our defense out and put 4 recievers on the field as many times as possible. The jets did absolutely nothing to defend this package yet."
bob 45 years jets fan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:12am ET"If their was any doubt about Mangini being fired it was this game. No emotion. no gutts, no anything. Woody if you really want to win you will hire Bill Cowher as your coach. Unless of course you like to see 140 million dollars of your money flushed down the toilet. For us Jets fans do the right thing. Please."
Anthony Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:13am ET"Mangini, Sutton, and Schottenheimer fail to realize what changes need to be made and are why the Jets are falling. This loss was not a suprise because that staff is awful, and I can't wait to see them go...there wasting so much talent"
bigEd Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:14am ET"Read that Mangini will be back. If it were any other problem I'd be right there. But the man has got no fire. Can't change that."
Quan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:16am ET"Dear Defensive Coordinator, If you want to get Kris Jenkins in the game again, then how about putting 4 men on defensive line and running a dime package? I mean it's just a thought. Obviously the three man rush isn't working and maybe it's not working because it's the most obvious rush in football, no scheming and no blitzing equals up to no defense. Jets' fans, don't blame Bret, blame the coach."
Robert Lichtenstein Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:24am ET"As a long time Jet fan and ticket holder, this year has proved to be the most dsappointing ever!! We do not play with any passion and emotion. For us not to have a sack against a beat up Seahawk offensive line is "OFFENSIVE". Our play reflects are coaching staff - conservative and lacking creativity. The head coach must be held accountable for this total team collaspe."
hammer Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:26am ET"While the players and owners count their money this morning, ill be out busting my hump in freezing temperatures, doing my job today.See, i can actualy do the job im paid to do, unlike these sorry underachievers.I am so sick of this team. So sick of every season ending the same way.Hard to have pride in this team.this franchise is cursed. we will never win another SB you heard it here first. NEVER"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:26am ET"What a great football game last night I am absolutely stoked #1 seed and my favorite ex-Jet Ward goes for over 200 thats the way you finish when the games count. Go Big Blue! Oh I almost forgot the Jets stink! There will be plenty said here so I won't waste my breath I'll save it for next week The Penguin is hanging by a feather who knows maybe there will be a Christmas miracle next week lets hope"
Quan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:27am ET"This is my third blog but I can do this all night after watching this aggravating game. The jets have a HB screen that is almost 1st down guaranteed and we probably run this play once a game. Leon Washington is the best thing that has happened to this team since Wayne Chrebet and we just don't take advantage of his talent. You HAVE to involve him in the offense. "
Quan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:29am ET"And for Schottenheimer, I really don't have any complaints toward your end. IF the jets defense could get the oppossing offense off the field once in a while then we wouldn't always be in desperate measure situations half the game"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:39am ET"Quick thoughts Coles with more critical drops,Brick was awful the team is dead. With a OC, DC, STC and AHC the primary function of the HC which I think is Mangini is to motivate and inspire the players. I am weary and exhausted from saying the same thing over and over he ain't getting it done. Question has there ever in the history of the NFL been a team with 7 pro bowlers not make the playoffs."
Mike Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:49am ET"Answers!!!!! I got an Answer, they are a disgrace!!!!!!!! Mangini coached like it was a peewee league , Favre couldnt throw to save his life, I was sick watching the game!!!!! Now we have to hope the Pats lose to the Bills Good luck with that!!!!!! and We have to win against the Dolphins,who are playing great !!!!! not going to happen, its going to be wait til next Year AGAIN!! UNBELIEVEABLE!!"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:56am ET"Feely makes a FG & its called back & Mangini wont let him kick it again cuz they tack on 5 yards? Even though he cleared it by 12 yards? Its the coaching (CAN HIM) No, Im sure their just cursed-ITS ALL NAMATHS FAULT for making the deal w/the devil - Regardless of how the season ends, start Ratliff next season - NEW BLOOD - Im just sick 2 my stomach right now & why? ive been here before. Many times"
bart Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:57am ET"cassel and cowher. think about it"
Cyclone Dave Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:10am ET"Eric Mangini has proven to be WOEFULLY unprepared for game situations. He goes for it on 4th and 4 with all 3 Timeouts remaining on their OWN 19?!?! He doesn't set the tone on the 1st drive, opting for the 3...then eschews 3 later on. INSISTS on playin' the 3-4, then only rushes 3 guys against a TAXI SQUAD O-Line, and can't even get that done. FIRE thwe ENTIRE Coaching Staff! "
jeff canull Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:10am ET"The coach mentioned that his team hasnt given up ? Ive been a Packer fan forever and a huge Brett Farve fan but even he cant save this club. So many things wrong with this team its sad they couldnt rise to the ocasion......."
Dunnie Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:14am ET"Look ... I am in no way defending Mangini ... but be careful what you ask for ... do you really want to go through ANOTHER coaching change and 5 more years of rebuilding ??? I don't."
Anthony Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:15am ET"THe most ridiculous thing about this is Mangini doesn't do any changes at halftime. He keeps to his "So Called" game plan. Plesae Mangini.. play smash mouth football and change your stupid philosophies. The only philosophy you should use is...."WIN". I will not stop being a Jet fan and hope we get Favre one more year.."
deep Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:19am ET"Im going to break it down why our pass rush disappeared and BOB never looked at it this way. When he call prevent three man rush, opposing team have six blockers blocking for the QB. They double team our three man rush so D linemen are working extra hard to get to the QB and extra longer. QB has allday to throw the ball and WR eventually breaks away from coverage and get open for a 1st down catch."
gil Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:20am ET"I really cant belive this,the jets always do this they never finish the deal. Mangini should be fired,Bring in Bill Cowher start Brett Ratliff "
wayne Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:23am ET"Cassel would be great here with 3 conditions:(He comes with coaching staff,Moss,Welker).Him alone will be another disaster.It's too big a job for him.He'll be good in a nice small town.This place kills hall of famers.All you have to do is look at MIA to see what good coaching can do.It would have been no different if Chad was here, so please with the "if only we had Chad"."
Chris-in-Va Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:23am ET"Mangini can you show a little emotion? Get fired up about something will you!!!! Sutton how about some stunts. Jenkins and Pace are not going to get to the QB every play. You Guys are gone, just do us a favor and leave!!!!! Another, wait till next season year, Man it’s tough to be a Jets fan. But I love this team. "
razmataz Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:25am ET"TV announcers tell you all you need to know, Deidorf ripped Mangini last week, for the past 4 weeks the coaches have been questioned on national TV. I have no faith in Mangini if he were a real coach he finds a way to win 1-2 of these games, he has no clue, he stuck with sutton too long and they both have no clue. tanny and the owner will be loyal to Mangini , + this what we get 4, 2 more years. "
Charles Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:25am ET"No inspiration! Did the Jets watch the Giants last night? That's inspired football! And with no Plaxico or Umenyiora! We need Cowher or Spagnola and a real defensive coordinator"
deep Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:31am ET"why you think C. Jink got ot come out every other play. That bring me to brain. I mean come on he did this in OKL abenden the run game and we was killing them on the ground. then at home against denver in the rainwhen the ball could slip from the QBs hand as he attemptto throw the ball, and TJ was killing them again but throw the 30+ times. and yesterday again he does the same thing. "
Tony Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:31am ET"I am sick of loosing every season. I think everyone should boycott the last game in protest and fire Mangini. I have been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and every year it is the "SAME OLD JETS". PU You will not see me at the last game it is a waste of time. Lets get some professional coaches and a winning team. How much do you want me to pay to see these stinkers?????????"
wayne Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:31am ET"Saddest thing for me, you look around the league and Jets players are starring all over the place."
Don From MS Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:31am ET"The JETS played BAD!! .They should of went for the 4th and 1 at the 5. The defense sat back, Wallace 2 much time Farve who i love played poorly and tried to throw lasers in the winter time. Should of run the ball more. Bad coaching, Bad pass defense, Bad rush defense. I think Mangini needs to go. Spend some $$ on defense, The Jets should be min 12 - 3. "
Carol from Wisconsin Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:32am ET"Ugh! What an ugly game! We couldn't do anything on EITHER side of the ball. Where the heck is that winning team from several games ago when we tromped on the Titans? I want them back!!!!! Not sure what the problem is but it seems to be on both sides of the ball, both offensive and defensive. Nasty stuff, just nasty..."
mike Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:34am ET"serioulsy what this team did was give up. Our defense was truly a siv and our offense had no deep ball potential. We lacked major explosiveness with any player beside Leon Washington. Brett Favre gave New York alot of hope but he threw away at least 4 games because of desicion making. We couldn't protect Brett Favre in the final games.You cant pin the blame on the players, Eric Mangini?"
Theo Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:35am ET"Can't you just here it now, "from here on out, we play for pride". Cassell and Cowher, I like the sound of that alot !!!!!!!"
Stu Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:38am ET"There's something very wrong with a team that can't beat teams with losing records yet is sending 7 players to the Pro-Bowl. Many of the players share the blame as there were poor passes, good passes that were dropped., missed tackles,etc. But most of all there was BAD coaching. Mangini and his crew need to be replaced unless they miraculously win next week and either New England or Balt. lose!!"
Bev Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:38am ET"Mangini made two HUGE mistakes, 1st when he didn't allow the Jets offensive to attempt a first down on the 4 yard line in the begining of the game, instead he settled for 3 points. 2nd, when he didn't allow his FG kicker to kick the 50 yrd score, he made it with ease at the 45 yrd mark. What the heck is wrong with him, where does he get his ideas for play calling?"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:40am ET"Randy.. very interested in what your insights will be about this lose & what you might say to make us all understand .. What I've been fighting so hard with all the loyal bloggers here to what I knew all season long .. Might help them cope there are many many fans out there needing therapy Marty lyons & his DR Mike come to mind .. We've been with you all season any closing thoughts? MIKE EX"
Drew Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:41am ET"Thats the difference between Frank and other true Jet fans like me. I am miserable today and he is talking #1 seed and Giant football. Hilarious."
JetFanInMaine Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:41am ET"Ok come Sunday I'll be wearing my Penny jersey. Yes I want the Jets to win but I dont want the Pats to lose then the Jets get in. The Jets should be on top but they choked should have lost 4 in a row losing to bad teams with the bills not being that bad a bunch of injuries. The Jets have been healthy all year Pats same EVERYONE is hurt. We all seen what the Hawks can do Pats came close but that D knows how to play a full 60 mins thats why they won and we lost. If the Jets make the playoffs the be out first round. Just wait till next year."
matt NJ Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:41am ET"Its the same thing with the jets. they give you hope and then they spit in your face. this is too much too bare. it hurts more than the last 3 years combined. I am in utter shock and dissapointment. After sticking with them through all of the losing seasons, this is how they play with control of their destiny. see you next year. its all about them YANKEES"
Kevin Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:41am ET"Same old Jets. Wait its not they are hitting all time lows. The new and improved same old Jets Put on the Geen and White and turn into garbage players. I tried to change the thinking this year as a fan. Enjoy the wins when they come and this is what I get for it. 0-4 on the west. Thank you New York Jets for another typical Jets season. Merry Christmas and maybe Santa can bring you a clue this year"
deep Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:43am ET"mangini fail to address the promblem and i sopported him defended him and now i want him gone and his coaching staff. I wonder who these fake EX-packer fan and now jets fan going to be pulling for after brett retire. I mean he is the reason they became jets fans and EX packer fan. And they gonna tell us that we need to cut some slack we too harsh. i wise they would cut some slack on the ticket prc"
john Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:48am ET"Things for the Fire Barrel: Anything Green Any NYJ logo Any Cheese Cheeseheads Anything from Wisconsin Any Mets crap (old association w/shea) ...besides I should have destroyed their crap back in September 07, 08 ...take your pick Signed Vinny Testaverde Poster Sons Jets backpack Jets Window Visors Jets Tow hitch Wifes Jets Pajamas Anything with # 4 on it And yes my upcoming tickets"
john Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:52am ET"Gone also are my upcoming tickets because there is no way I am going to watch the only past Jets player who bled Green and wasnt good enough for our fans because he couldnt throw deep or caused nine men in the box........Yes Merry Christmas Jets Fans it gets better all the time. "
S Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:55am ET"Oakland. San Fran. Seattle. All had twice as many losses as wins, NY plays them, and our team fell apart each time. Our achilles has been bottom-feeders. Thank god we aren't playing Detroit next week. One month ago we had the No. 2 rated offense in football, a top 10 defense, and a favorite to take the No. 1 or No. 2 seed in the AFC. Are we competing with the Mets for number of epic collapses??"
Doug Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:58am ET"Mangini is gutless...plays the game "not" to lose....I knew it was going to be a long day when the Jets did not go for it on 4th and 1 on the 2 yard line...Even if they don't make it, it shows confidence....Then punting the ball instead of going for a field goal. That's seven potential points off the board. He outsmarts himself constantly...you play to win the game!!!!"
Marejet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:02am ET"I think it will be poetic justice when Chad comes here to beat our JETS. The Jets have had their usual meltdown and I think things would have gone better if we still had Chad on OUR side!!! Brett is ok, but he seems to be worn out. Its just another sad day to be a Jet fan. Having been a fan for 27 years, it's a familiar feeling. : ( I actually bought into some of the hype this year!! Silly me!"
Brian Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:05am ET"The Jets, have no coaching at all. Shotty is to conservitive and actually the worst of offensive coord. and Mangini had his 15 min. He can't prepare the players for a game, he shows no emotion which reflects on the team. The dolphins, like every other team will rip the secondary apart with Pennington at the helm. The last 4 games where all must win, and they got crushed. No urgency, no win."
FIre Entire Coaching Staff Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:18am ET"I WANT MANGINI, SUTTON AND SCHOTHEIMER FIRED NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
sal Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:19am ET"You want answers, you scored 3 miserable points, and could have scored another 3, Thats why you lost, Shotenheimer chokes under pressure, The apple dont fall from the tree. "
pino Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:22am ET"The whole staff needs to go beginning with bob Sutton. This year is worst than last year. Last year we knew we weren't going anywhere but this year they get you all excited and leave you in the cold. I bleed green and white but yesterday the bleeding was just to much for me to handle. Another disappointing year after another. Can anyone make the hurt go away. "
Joe M. Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:28am ET"Not only did releasing Chad Pennington take away the team leader with proven chemistry with Coles & Cotchery, It made division rival's the Miami Dolphins a more competetive team."
NotBuyingIt Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:31am ET"The Seahawks had 5 subs in on their OL. What a joke the Jets are. I said it in August, Favre will ruin his legacy. And here we are.The Jets ran Chad out of town. The guy with the biggest heart and most guts on the team. And here he comes. Back for his Redemption Day. Let's declare DEC.28th, " Penny Day". Mangini, thanks for creating a team of robots with no emotion. This is NY! not NE. GO CHAD GO"
HazyDavy Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:32am ET"There really isn't anything I can add to what has already been said. I'm bleeding green today. The whole coaching staff needs to go. We should have been competing for the 1 or 2 seed in the AFC, now we're not even gonna make the playoffs. It's now been 40 years since we've been to the big dance. INCREDIBLE!!! Words can't describe how angry and dissappointed I am!!!"
BigEd Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:36am ET"Bought NFL Sunday Ticket to watch this team. If the same coaches come back next year the bye, bye Sunday Ticket. I know what I'm getting with this bunch...loses against bad teams. I hope you're shaking your head Woody. We're trying to emulate N.E. who blows out there sub-par oppenents. They gotta go."
scubasnacks Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:37am ET"Go Penny, forget about the Jets... My only way of getting back at them after letting me down so many years is to see a guy they wrote off beat us at home to make into the playoffs... besides, do you really think the Pats will lose to the Bills, they have Belicheck... They'll win by 40 points to play it safe... our way of playing it safe is keeping it close and losing... i rather Chad than the Pats"
chris manguso Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:45am ET"i'm just sick at heart another year another collapse doesnt seam to matter who the coach is or who's on the team we do well most of the time and then just like clock work we collapse. I think what i heard along time ago is right Namath made a deal with the devel and every year he collects. Same song "wait till next year" maybe we can get a Cowart or a Bellecheck . Wish we still had Chad"
Alan M Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:46am ET"The game was over when Mangini took the 3 points on the opening drive. He showed no confidence that the team could make the half yard. That is no way for a team wanting to win the division to play in the snow. He knew the weather was going to get worse and the TD may have stood up. Plus if they had scored 7 they would have had a chance to tie. Then after the penalty he does not go for the FG?"
Chris Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:48am ET"Farve is not the answer; he never was. This is just another in a long line of Jet front office blunders. Giving Pennington away for a forty year old arm is just stupid!!! Yes they has us fooled for five games; but in the end Farve just does'nt have what it takes anymore, no more mircle 4th quarter comebacks. He needs to retire before he disgraces himself and his legecy. Ratliff next year!! "
Ed Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:51am ET"I like Mangini...But It doesn't look good to have 7 pro-bowl players and not make the play offs...Even if he dumps the defensive coordinator, how fast can the defense adjust to new leadership, its years later and we are still struggling to fully adapt the 3-4...I'm not sure Rob Ryan and a speedy WR free agent acquisition is the answer to all our problems"
Angry Jet Fan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:51am ET"1. Jets should try to get Cower in here! (doubt they will though) 2. DEFENSE scheme needs a drastic change, bring in a new coordinator! someone with a Steeler, Raven type defensive scheme! 3. Cassell is a great choice, I love Favre but he cant play forever."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:53am ET"Why would Cowher come here?Why would anybody come hear.Mangini will be our coach next year because no one else will put their career in jepardy by coming to the Jets.Only chance is Westoff."
waynejet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:55am ET"The problem is play calling especially on offense. We ran when we should pass and vise versa also Brett Farve kept under throwing receivers . On defense I could predict the Seattle plays run on first down and pass on second down every time why could'nt our coaches see that? I tell you Mangini has to go,with so much talent and losing to inferior teams it;s embarrassing to be a Jets fan."
John LaPorte Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:00am ET"I have not been on the bash Mangini bandwagon until now. This is a disgraceful failure of coaching at all levels. Woody Johnson should meet the flight today and fire the entire coaching staff as soon as they step off the plane. I will not go to or watch another Jets game until Mangini and staff are gone."
JeffF Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:04am ET"My family has been season ticket holders since 1964. I've been a Jets fan my entire life and have lived through countless disappointments. But, the combination of the way this team chokes, and the loss of our season tickets due to Personal Seat Licenses (we have six seats and the Jets wants $15,000 each to keep them) is too much. This organization should be ashamed. I'm ashamed to be a jets fan"
joe b Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:07am ET"BILL COWHER====BILL COWHER=====BILL COWHER. Need I say more"
Frederick Martin Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:08am ET"I Knew the Jets were not that good. Your Team thought by getting mister joke Farve , that you would go to the super bowl. LoL , He is too old. Same results next year. Watch out for the Buffalo Bills ......Super Bowl 2010.. Go Bills DECLINED: NAMECALLING (MISTER JOKE FAVRE)"
fljetfan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:08am ET"Conservative decision making in what amounts to a do or die football game. The two just dont mix. Simply put, Mangini cant coach in this division, he's in way over his head. Playing percentages and not punching that ball in on the 1st drive shows you he coaches scared. It also sends a message of failure to a team that badly needed a confidence boost.Woody, listen to your players.Do the right thing"
James Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:09am ET"J-E-T-S Just End The Season...and end it for once and for all Eric Mangini and Brian Schottenheimer for there great play calling...oh and #4 The guy that loves to throw into double coverage. So hopfully they lose on Sunday so that Favre can retire and Mangini can get fired. go J-E-T-S."
Mike Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:10am ET"Frustrating being a Jets fan. They seem to find a way to rip our hearts out at the end. Seems to me that Mangini is coaching not to lose instead of coaching to win. Not going for it on 4 and 1 at Seattle 2 was wrong. Have faith in the D. Also strange in the 4th when not going the FG and punting then going for it on 4th and 4 on your own 20 with 3 TOs left and more than 2 minutes. "
Larry Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:12am ET"Heres the answer. FIRE MANGINI,SCHOTT & SUTTON after the last game.(probably this weekend). Unprepared ,unmotivated,and no clue how to manage a 16 game season. This goes back to the end of our 10-6 year. This pathetic bunch has been outcoached by rookies with half our talent. Anyone who can continue to make excuses and stand behind this staff is a football illiterate. "
sal Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:18am ET"Again the best chance, is between Balt/Jacksonville, and the Jags have a chance. They due for a win"
kaya Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:21am ET"I just don't know what to say? We move away from the run, come on TJ and Washington are studs and we move away from the run? What happening to blitzing? I saw the Seahawks blitz almost every other play - against the pass and against the run!!!! And we don't even try to rattle an inexperience QB? I am really last for words!!"
ed duignam Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:21am ET"How clever, no answer, no excuse.....thats just great, it ends the discussion about multiple bad decision during this season, we should just forget the lackluster attempts to hit the opponent and dont even mention King Brett! No, just roll over Jet fans! But HEAR this...this team will suffer for years after this breakdown, there is only one recourse.....MANGINI MUST GO!.....Favre join Holmgren!"
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:23am ET"cause keep in mind these guys are subject to bad play calling by there coaches they execute what is called period these guys have suffered through some bad coaching decisions and lack of heart passion will bring the strongest will to defeat Mangini is just a Bad head coach just not ready to lead and Woody Johnson better be careful he has alot of $ at stake get these guys a coaching staff already"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:24am ET"Listen up Woody and I mean listen good. I am afraid Spagnuolo is gone this year and if we have to lose him I want you Woody to sign him as our new HC. He is a phenomenal coach who not only is a great technician something Mangini is not but he is a coach who inspires and gets the most out of his players. It's amazing the Giants secondary is a round robin of nobodies and they are better than Jetsies"
Frank Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:27am ET"Gee Drew I didn't know we can only cheer for one team. Sorry I must've missed that in the handbook. By the way you should try rooting for the Giants it does help take the sting away. Mangini has one week left and we need a miracle in the Meadowlands and maybe Mangini can send Jauron a second Christmas gift although I have a feeling the Phins with fork over the Jetsies but maybe not."
ed duignam Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:28am ET"Mr. Woody.....Do you honestly think the fans will pay outrageous amounts of money to see this product?....Sir, you are an accomplished buisnessman. The managers of your sportsline product are losing you money! You will need to fill your new stadium to survive this recession, unless you want to drain your net worth. Now SIR, CALL COWHER!!! (Steve Young never complained about the red-eye flight)"
Mike CW Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:29am ET"Same Ol Jets. No gameplan, no excecution. You lose to SEA with a back-up offensive line. Need I say more. The coaching staff has to look into the mirror and ask themselves if this is there true calling. Woody brings in the talent and the coaches don't utilize the tools they are given. Farewell playoffs and coaching staff."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:31am ET"By the way Dunnie boy to answer your question...if the Jets miss do not win the division and go to the playoffs then yes I want Mangini fired and everyone else not named Westoff. Did you see what happened to the Dolphins when you get real football people and a coaching staff that knows how to coach or maybe you missed that. So with our personell I am not sure what the "get what you wish for" means"
kaya Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:38am ET"Please stop the "I wish we had Chad" crap. Even if he was still here - he wouldn't make a difference right know!!! I am glad he found success with the Dolphins, but come on!!! The problem here is we are not running the ball more and we are not playing more aggressive on the Defensive side. We are playing so much prevent and zone? it seems to me only Revis can cover his man!!! "
Randy Schafer Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:40am ET"How do you explain this game. This team had no pass rush against a sandlot group that was made up of five replacement players. There is no adjustment in the game plan. The leading rusher in the conference barely touches the ball; the short passing game isn't used as it should be; the old man is more of a threat than a weapon. Suggest that everyone - coaches and players - donate game checks."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:43am ET"Easily the worst season.Belicheck will end up going to the playoffs.Personally I think they could probably win the Superbowl."
Manu Nagaraja Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:44am ET"After being a JETS fan for over 25 years, I can honestly say I may be done with this team. They are a complete joke. How do you let a young quarterback with a patchwork offensive line stand back there all day long and kill you? I must be the only person who hated Favre from the day he came to the JETS. I hope all you Favre fans are happy now. I hope Chad makes the JETS pay for their mistake."
JETFOREAL Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:49am ET"I honestly think right now the LIONS could Beat the Jets, how awful is that"
CB in SC Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:50am ET"How pathetic! How disappointing! How heartbreaking! 3 points… What’s happened to this team? There are no more excuses. During the Jets 5 game winning streak they were playing way above their heads. Since then their true skill and pro level has shown them for what they are, from the coaches on down. I have been a Titans/Jets fan since, well let me say, since the mid 50s and this is the most disappointing team I can remember. During all those bad years at least we knew what we were dealing with. This was a build up for the great let down…worse than “the same old Jets.” Do you really think we stand a chance against the fish? Even if we win NE takes the division because they play like winners."
Chester H Pownall Jr Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:50am ET"Heartbroken again, different year same year ending pain! :("
Pat Ricucci Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:54am ET"AND YOU WOULD LIKE THE FANS TO INVEST PSL AT 25,000.00 PER , ON TEEM LIKE THAT!"
Don Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:58am ET"If they even cosnider bringing Mangini and Favre back they are out of their minds. I hear Francesa say on Friday they can't fire Mangini if he wins 10 games. WHY NOT? It would be making the same mistake that the Mets made after the 2007 collapse in bringing Randolph back. What a waste of talent and money. Where are all you Favre lovers today. The guy was washed up. Mr T should go too."
joe b Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:58am ET"Does anybody know what DRAFT pick we lose for this QB.? Whatever it is, it wasn't worth it. Go Chad"
Joe cheering for penny Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:59am ET"Sick of the boring mono tone voices. Mangini and Tannebaum must go. Mangini is out coached every week, and Tannebaum thinks he's the gm of the yankees. These guys are not the answer for this team and will never be. They blamed Pennington for the problems in the past. This year clearly shows who's at fault. Mangini and Tannebaum gone in 09. That's the first step for the Jets and Jets' fans."
Roger Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:01am ET"Honestly i have never seen a coach get away with being lame, if this was Herm Edwards we would have been calling for his head, Mangini is not a good coach, we were playing for our season and on the 2yard line you punt it , the season is in the balance, against the 30th rank unit against the run, enough already, make Schott the coach and lets wing it, you get rid of Chad to bring in Brett for the "
james Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:02am ET"Awful disgraceful this team is an embarrasment to this fan base there is one thing that should reign true mangini should get on the same plane with favre and never return one can't coach and the other all of a sudden seems he doesn't wanna be here. Brett you want to wait til June to decide if you want to play then stay home. At least Chad had fire and heart don't see that in Brett. "
Pete G Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:04am ET"How many times can they come to the game not prepared. This is the 4th week in a row, plus if you count the Oakland game, 5 weeks this season, that they have looked lost. Seattle's offensive line were backups yesterday, yet we had no sacks and no pressures on Wallace. What were Mangini and Sutton thinking? Coaches on this team are a joke."
Elio Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:04am ET"Miami will destroy the jets ... Pennington is coming back home to prove that he is still a winner , I can't beleive we let go this guy for a 40 yr old qb .... man this has been a crazy season !!!! "
Bryan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:05am ET"I will tell you what my family has had season tickets for 20 years and we are getting sick and tired of seeing the same old Jets and the worst part is you want us to pay for PSL's are you crazy. Mangini MUSTgo period. This team is by far one of the worst coach teams I have seen in a while. This 3-4 defense has to go we cannot play it and the offense playcalling is terrible. "
Gene S. Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:05am ET"The last three weeks has been a total embarrassment for this team. I've had enough of garbage football. Seattle showed more hart than the Jets ever had. The coaching was terrible. Maybe the team should play without any coaching at all. It can't get any worse. I hope you're happy with all your PSL money Woody. Maybe you can spend it players and coaches who know what they're doing."
Frank statement Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:09am ET"We are witnessing the Belichick road...get to HC early -then lose -get fired-grow up somewhere-then HC later in life and win...Mangini is at the beginning of this maturity process...at Woody's (and our) expense! You could tell from the way they handled the Hall of Famer earilier in year....the staff is too immature to make a winner...time to cut and get someone who's hungry and has maturity"
Tom Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:13am ET"SAME OLD JETS! SAME OLD JETS! SAME OLD JETS! SAME OLD JETS! I think you get what I am trying to say!"
Silversword55 Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:15am ET"Unbelievable! Since the Tennessee game, the Jets were the Keystone Cops in football uniforms. For the Fourth straight game, Favre was Lost, the Defense couldn't stop my grandma, the Coaching has been downright awful, the run game was under-utilized. Even if we beat Miami (which I doubt), the Pats are not losing to Buffalo, and the Ravens won't lose to Jacksonville! So no playoffs!"
Gordon Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:17am ET"now now-Several weeks ago when the Jets fans were dreaming superbowl, I told you although a good team, winning their division what be a great accomplishment. I also said Brett was the key as to why they looked so good and he can not be a superstar every game, the past 4 games he has not played well and has made bad decisions. Coaching? Stop. If they beat Miami they will have had a good season."
Rob Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:18am ET"ed duignam, I think you are right....I believe coaches spend most of the week preparing for the loosing speaches then on game plans"
Drew Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:19am ET"Frank... You can't root for both teams. If your handbook says you can then get a new handbook!! All I care about is the Jets. I didnt even know the damn score of the Giants game until this morning...Because I didnt care and I'm a JETS fan. Something you say you are but clearly got over a depressing Jet loss by cheering the Giants on last night....You dont see the difference?? Gimme a break."
Mike Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:21am ET"What I would like to know why didn't Bob Sutton utilize more blitz packages? Certainly Seneca Wallace could have been rattled more if that were the case, especially behind an inexperienced offensive line. And it's not as if the receiving corps atter Deoin Branch and John Carlson couldn't have warranted a gamble or two with a safety blitz. Just another opportunity wasted."
lou Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:24am ET"That was one of the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen. You are in the hunt for a playoff spot and you show no guts-No Guts no Glory. Very disappionting."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:24am ET"Even though I saw it coming at halftime I am still in shock. How can this happen? Mangini was supposed to be the difference? Favre was here to change everything? We signed the FA's to bolster the D and OL. But we still spit it up in the last 4 games....I dont know who is more depressed today me or the ton of Eagle fans that I work with..... What a nightmare!!!"
Brian is South FL Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:30am ET"I'm really growing tired of this from the Jets. A brand new stadium and we can't even force our own playoff berth. We don't deserve it. We don't play well enough. Mangini made bad decisions and I've lost some faith in him as a head coach. (The 4th down that should have been punted and the field goal penalty that should have been retried.) Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but hey, "no excuses.""
SAME OLD JETS Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:32am ET"The Jets should never have picked up Favre in the first place (too old, can't play in snow or rain, left his fire with the Packers, carelss with his picks) ! and Mangini should have been fired immediately after lastnights game ! His game management and decision process suck ! Anyone with half a brain would have passed on Favre and gone with Brett (Ratcliffe) who is obviously the future. DECLINED: VULGARITY (SUCK)"
Ed Seely Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:32am ET"You Know sometime ago Brett Farve threw Michael Straham a bone with they gimme sack. Did he just do the same thing for his X-coach? The man's entire career has been in the snow how does he not win? Pro-Bowl offensive line where were they? How can you expect to fill a new stadium when u can't finish a game."
Doug Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:34am ET"Three man rush is not working......... no pressure on there qb at all. Brett, it's snowing out, run the ball and throw short. How about 3, 4 or 5 yard gains instead of trying for a 35 yarder at 2nd or 3rd downs. We needed this game, who ever has been running the offense and defense needs to sit and watch the last 3-4 games and see what the obvious problems are. "
KTK Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:34am ET"Pro Bowl or Popularity Contest? What is Brett doing in the Pro Bowl? Maybe it is for all the interceptions? Who tallied up the votes Obama's ACORN group?"
scjoe Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:40am ET"In my 49th year as a Jet/Titan fan I just have this to say to the younger Jet fans...."get used to it" There are those out there who want to blame the coaching staff, those who want to blame Favre etc. I believe both are part of the problem, but the problem is bigger then both. I'm not even sure Belichek could win with this franchise, and whats worse is there is talent here."
C. Gatti Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:40am ET"I agree with everyone saying we need a new coaching staff. Mangini has turned out to be a joke and makes the dumbest decisions in the world. Sutton has to go as well, this defense plays with no urgency. This team has more than enough talent to be successful we just need a good coaching staff to seal the deal. GET BILL COWHER!!"
Indy Jet Fan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 11:49am ET"Twenty six years a fan of this team...not sure I've ever been more disappointed in them? I like Favre, he's a great guy and was a wonderful quarterback but I knew when Chad left for Miami we were in for pain(one way or another)from Miami. In my opinion Pennington has done more for his team and deserves to be going to the Pro Bowl...what has Brett done the past four weeks - 1TD/6 INTS. Pro-bowler?"
Ken Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:01pm ET"I have been saying this since yr 1 about MANGINI. Mangini and his COACHING staff still can't make IN game ADJUSTMENTS! That is a big part of the JETS problem. The league as made ADJUSTMENTS to the JETS SHORT PASSING game. That is y FAVRE is not completing passes and db r covering the JETS WRs on the short routes. So MANGINI has to make ADJUSTMENTS to this! & FAVRE can't throw the DEEP PASS!"
disappointed jets fan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:07pm ET"ONCE AGAIN, WE WUD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF W/ CHAD PENNINGTON IT SEEMS, IF BRETT COMES BACK THEN THATS GREAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, MANGINI AND BRETT CAN GO AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED.....3 POINTS???? IN A GAME LIKE THIS? COME ON MAN!"
Patrick from PA Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:11pm ET"Cassell is not the answer guys. He plays behind one of the best pass protecting O-lines in the league and has numerous playmaking WR's and last but not least outstanding coaching to tie it all together. If he comes here, it will not be pretty. If Brett cant do it, you really think Cassell will with these guys coaching the team? I don't. He is a product of that system."
Matthew T. Pauli Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:16pm ET"Run the ball! Lifelong fan that moved to AK from NY in 1971. The Jets finally made it to Seattle again and I started making plans in May to get down for the game; my first actual attendance at a JETS game! Had my JETS hard hat and jersey all packed. The only positive outcomes for the weekend were the flights out of Anchorage were cancelled and I received a full refund on my airline tickets."
riggs Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:17pm ET"After discussions with the wife about keeping my season tickets and paying the pricey PSL. I have to say the Jets are not worth it. It would be like investing in a stock that you know is going to go down. Obviously im very disappointed. Cant believe the performance against Seattle. Inexcusable."
IAMAYAHOO Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:18pm ET"horrible loss yesturday! why is it magini and brian refuse to pound the ball. it doesn't make any sense! we deserve to lose that game. we punt instead of kicking the FG! that cost us big the last 2 minutes of the game. that divison was ours and now we need a miracle at the meadow lands and a patriot loss to get in! brett farve is not getting the job done i believe will beat the dolphins 38-35 jets"
snaggs in Boston Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 12:22pm ET"I now realize that this is a regular Jets season! I finally had some bragging rights in my home against my husband who is a staunch Pats fan and I a Jets, living in Boston. A part of me is "this is not happening and the other part is this is just another Jets season". Still a Jets fan though, living in Patriots country. We don't complain we just deal and say what the ____ and wait for next year"
larry Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:01pm ET"feely hit that FG on the penalty with way more than five yards to spare!! when your offense is driving and you're faced with 4&1 you should definetely to for it if your going to go for 4&4 NO HUDDLE with plenty of TOs and a two minute warning!! let your kicker kick and dont just b agressive for the sake of it, be aggressive but dont lose your head!! same old jets, nuttin big to see here, people."
Brian I Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:09pm ET"This team from top to bottom should be ashamed of itself. Believe me as a lifelong Jets fan I have seen hem collapse before, but this is pathetic. No energy, no passion, no heart. The coaching staff is the most stubborn I have ever encountered and more times than not they outsmart themselves. Sometimes the right thing to do is the obvious one. Mangini has to move on as well as sutton and B.S."
Dan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:20pm ET"If you haven't realized by now, the problem is coaching. Look at the Pats. There is a team with less talent,but a more intelligent and intuitive coaching staff who understand the game. Our guys just formulate some kind of plan and hope it works. They don't adjust, they don't adapt to certain situations, they just sit back and hope for the best. Thats why the pats beat the worse teams and we strugg"
Gary Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:25pm ET"Will somebody please tell Woody Johnson he hired the wrong guy to coach this team. The staff is as horrible. Can't protect against the pass, no pressure, can't stop the run and what is worst is a last minute practice squad offensive line that totally man handled our defense. Look for Miami to blow us out next week. This team will not rebound and Farve will not return. Frustrated fan since 1968."
jets Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:28pm ET"Who in their right mind would buy PSL's? The Jets have shown their fans no loyalty after decades of heartbreak; this season was just the final straw. No playoffs with 7 pro-bowlers and Brett Favre, shame on you to ask for PSL's."
Leenie in NC Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:36pm ET"Play calling has been terrible. I was screaming so much that my 6 yr old son said I needed to calm down or I was going to have a heart attack. Kick the field goal again and with 2:22 left on 4th and 2, punt! We had 3 TO plus the 2:00 warning. Brett has been off for weeks now. Why call plays were he needs to throw down field. If I yelled RUN THE BALL one more time my husband was going to kill me."
Blinka Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:42pm ET"I've been a fan for 40 years, and this season has been the worst. I cannot explain the offense. But the lack of intensity on the defense is very obvious. I don't know if its the passive, prevent, rhodes 20 yardsback, 3 man rush etc. etc crap or Mangini cannot motivate."
Mr Bronson Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:43pm ET"Our DL was outplayed by a rag tag Seattle OL, running on us easily. The D couldn't get any pressure on the QB, didn't blitz until it was too late. Our play calling on offense was terrible. Schottenheimer, Mangini and Sutton need to be fired. the only coach that stays is Westhoff. Woody needs to offer the job to Cowher and pay him whatever he wants. New stadium, PSL's, raised ticket prices=Cowher. "
Mendham Lew Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 1:45pm ET"The Jets were out coached the past three weeks. Offense was too predictable. Defense was too cautious. How can seven pro bowlers be so inconspicuous? Leon Washington had an embarrassingly few touches.. Farve was not sharp but the game plan which emphasized longer passes in that weather was a mistake. In the off season when you pick up tough fast defensive players why don't we use them?"
Jared Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:26pm ET"I was Mangini supporter for a long time but its time to blow it up. Running the ball 17 times in the snow with an old QB and a team built to run, the D cant put on any pressure against a patch work o-line. Blow it up. Keep Westhoff or make him the head coach and lets do it all again. This team is too talented to play this bad. Its kinda funny how mad everyone is when we go through this every year"
Sesundus Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:38pm ET"It was very evident that something was wrong. The DECISION to kick the field goal for three points, and then the DECISION to punt instead of kicking the field goal. To make matters worse the refs were not making the right penalty calls out there. These calls would have put us in better opportunity to score, or at least keep the drive going. Either way, our performance was disappointing."
Bob Clark Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:40pm ET"How did this team lose its focus during the last MONTH of the season. Unlike New England, didn't we have everything to play for? Yet, despite being decimated by injuries to so many key players the Pats refused to quit and kept fighting even though they were assured of nothing....I'm embarrassed to be a Jets fan. "
Don Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:40pm ET"How many years do we have to put up with the "same old Jets"? Disgraceful."
Anthony Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:47pm ET"It is the coaching..I am happy with Favre, But I think the playcalling kills us. How about GAME PLANNING for the strengths of the Jets Mangini and not the other team. Its ridiculous I have to watch my boys get beat by garbage team because there is no adjustments at half .or the game planning. Football is one PHASE WIN...I will always be a fan but the coaching needs help..Lavernius needs glue..."
Gary Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:48pm ET"No emotion,intensity and over paid players plus bad coaching equals losing season. Kudos to Miami and New England they just know how to win. We are still trying to figure out who we are."
Cam Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:54pm ET"qucik question ? do you think the jets will put forth 100 percent effort in the game to beat the doplhins even if the patriots win their 1 oclock game i sure do hope so"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:54pm ET"Sooo much talent on this team, so no worries of getting a new coach & starting all over again-These players are seasoned & know what needs to be done, they just need alittle discipline & motivation...Well & some common sense play calling but other than those factors, they got the tools sooo (CAN THE COACHES)"
Paul Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 3:09pm ET"It is not the Jets fault its Manginis. All game short passes for 5 yards and short runs for 3 or 4 yards. but in the final 2 min he wants to bomb the ball out there for 50 yards. The Jets better look at there coaching staff and make some adjustments. Angry Jets fan "
Anonymous Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 3:21pm ET"It's clear from their play over the last 4 games and Mangini's demeanor, that this is a team with absolutely no passion; for the game, for their pride, or for the fans. Mangini wasn't ready to be a head coach, nor was his inept and unskilled staff . They fail to inspire the team and call the worst plays at the worst time. I’m not only disappointed; I’m embarrassed to be a fan."
Michellebrettsbiggestfan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 3:41pm ET"I think this team came farther than expected. Somewhere along the lines they were thought to make it all the way, those people are now doubting them. I think they should be proud of how far they came. One thing PLEASE Brett don't retire. Football would not be the same for me. I never thought I would be loving the Jets but you made that possible, I even love them more I ever loved the Packers!"
David Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 3:44pm ET"Randy, buttle, lyons, overmyer, lucas wischusen, eric why aren't you more harsh on this coaching staff? You guys have to be seeing what we see, that this coaching staff stinks, so do me a favor and question all these boneheaded call. Speak up for us."
Anthony4nj Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 4:00pm ET"I was thinking about spending the $5k for each seat (2) plus the tickets in 2010 Now Its cheaper to watch us get teased and watch them lose on TV sorry to say "
Ohio Jet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 4:58pm ET"Mangini needs to go. What is happening right now reminds me of Al Groh's tenure. 1-3 against the NFC West, are you kidding me. I live in Ohio and listen to all these Browns fans talk about them wanting Bill Cowher, we the Jets have money, let's get Cowher in the Green and White. Discipline and a will to win, and we stay a 3-4. Let's also draft a solid corner and some defenders who tackle. J-E-T-S!"
Dan Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:02pm ET"7 pro bowlers? No heart.. No passion. No pass rush. How bad was O lline protection. Farve was hit and sacked to many times. Then we had to watch the Giants last night show us what it is to be a tough NFL team. Merry Christmas Jets"
D- Rock Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:29pm ET"Can Anyone Say New York Mets. Its Amazing How u can look like the class of AFC to I dont Even know what they look like. If i say college it would be an embarassment to college athletics! Suck it up & play with some pride. All 53 of u put this franchise where its at. Can the real Jets PLEASE STAND UP!!!!!!"
Jetfan65 Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:37pm ET"After watching ther Jets lose to the Seahawks, I have come to the conclusion that the Jets will NOT make the playoffs and that Favre in NOT the answer the the Jets situation. Merry Christmas to all and lets have a better Jets season in '09."
Alex Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:42pm ET"FIRE MANGINI AND GET TY LAW OFF THE FIELD PROBLEM FIXED. When Lowry was in the game he forced two fumbles i don't know how but he did. LOOK AT THE GAME TAPE."
Eric Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 5:48pm ET"Cotchery's fumble against the Broncos was the play that ended our season."
roger Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 6:27pm ET"I've been trying to remain optimistic over these past four weeks thinking the Jets and the coaching staff will turn it around but it now appears that nothing will change from week to week. We still can't reach the QB, we still can't cover the TE and underneath routes, and we still stumble in the second half of games. We have a ton of talent so blame must be put on the coaches, time to clean house."
Scott Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:21pm ET"Say it ain't so!! Say it aint over!! Where is my team(The Jets) that played and defeated two undefeated teams at the time when every other team failed!!!? Where is that team,man? We have all the right tools; a demi god for a QB,talented WR's,and just a damn good team all around that's playing like a high school team!!! C'mon guys,stop letting us the fans down,we count,because if you lose..we lose."
greg Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:25pm ET"The good news is that if Woody keeps this staff, including Tannenbaum as his first round picks are all duds, it will make my decision regarding seat licenses a lot easier. Most years I cannot give away the tickets. This sunday will be all blue and orange. Including me."
Brooklyn Jet Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 7:31pm ET"FELLOW JET FANS..do you want to see how a REAL Coach looks..the fire, intensity and motivation regardless of a win or lose? Check out Mike Tomlin Steelers HC, on NFL.com, his post game press confrence...NOW THATS A FIRE..WE NEED that same passion from our HC...please comment on my post"
Jeremy Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:16pm ET"Mangini, Shotty & Sutton if they haven't already lost our respect that game killed it. Nobody should care at this point. This team after spending all that money is worthless without decent play callers. Can Mangini atleast get a DC that knows how to rush more than 3. Maybe Shotty can go to SD and take after his Dad. Avg close to 30 and put up 3 in a must win????? Let Callahan take over NOW!"
Row Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:22pm ET"I'm not talking about firing anyone until we lose to the Dolphins. I can't fire anyone with a 10 win season. Changes should be made, if I were running this team we wouldn't have Keller, but would have Rogers-Cromartie, Desean Jackson AND believe it or not we still would have Lowery in the 4th. Ainge and Henry is fine with me. BTW I would have pulled Favre for Clemens in the 4th quarter. Go Jets!"
Ronnie Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 8:54pm ET"Disgraceful. Without a doubt. I would rather the Fish win than the Pats. Forget this whole flex schedule, Just End The Season!!! Chad was our future and because we couldnt wait, look what happened. "
DM Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:02pm ET"even with the great Farve , when the jets play a poor 1st half they never come out in the 2nd half and play some solid mistake free ball. They always wait until their in dire needs of making a play and then they still fall apart. Gang green should of dominated the 2nd half against a depleted seahawk squad. Where's the toughness, grit, and refuse to lose attitude. C'mon Mangini, that was horrible"
RANDY Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 9:46pm ET"DEFENSE CAN'T GET ANY PRESSURE ON TH QB ALL THE QB'S LOOK GREAT AGAINST THE JETS.BOTTOM LINE THEY NEED TO PRESSURE ON THE QB"
ANGRY JET FAN Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 10:52pm ET"IF MANGINI DOESNT GET FIRED,AND IM SURE HE WONT AS LONG AS HIS BUDDY TANNENBAUM IS IN THE FRONT OFFICE,I WILL BECOME A GIANT FAN NEXT YEAR,AND I MEAN WHY NOT?THEY AT LEAST KNOW HOW TO WIN GAMES,AND HAVE A GREAT HEAD COACH WHO MAKES ADJUSTMENTS WHEN HIS TEAM IS BEEN OUTPLAYED,IVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE JETS,THEY ARE INDEED CURSED AND WILL NEVER WIN THE SUPER BOWL,EVER,AND I TRULY MEAN IT GUYS."
Francis Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 12:28am ET"we are getting out coached every Sunday. Im getting sick of it. If Jets don't make playoffs, changes WILL be done"
jetsfan914 Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 1:00am ET"brooklyn jet i agree with u 100 %...i wish we had a coach like him by the way does any1 know where the rush offense and rush defense went??cuz im confused "
shemp Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 4:22am ET"this coaching staff has to go, they are ruining the legend of Favre the same way they held back penny who all of a sudden is flourishing in Miami. this team is the worst prepared team in the nfl, and the worst at making 2nd half adjustments. the only coach in the league who shows no emotions what so ever. can the entire coaching staff the only one i would keep is bryan cox."
Matt Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 7:45am ET"Joe Beningo: "I hate this team" LOL it's so sad man, OH THE PAIN!!!! the pain!!! http://www.wfan.com/pages/3306437.php Why do they always do this to us?"
birddog Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 10:40am ET"This will be the most disappointing seasons ever . 8 and 3 then this. And this says alot being a Jets fan. They are killing me."
Eric Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 10:47am ET"Could someone explain to me again why we got rid of Vilma and what has his replacements done so far?"
manny Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 11:29am ET"I totaly agree , i think that the coaching staff dosent have what it takes i been a jets fan for a lot of years and its always the same thing , i think the jets general manager should spend more money on a good head coach , so he could wake up this players , i dont get it this players dont play like the players back in the days , they used to play cause they loved the game and to win."
jetfanjoe Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 1:01pm ET"Its hard to rank this loss - when you have seen 40 years work like I have, the begin to blur - the franchise is a disaster - from top to bottom - no heart, no guts - never totally prepared, incapable of making half time adjustments - please, it is time for the coach to become a db coach for another team - more years of "rebuilding" to come"
walter Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 9:53pm ET"what a waist.....i cant beleive that i accually thought that this team was going all the way, i mean really.....was i dreaming? as of this point i am on a spending freeze for anything that says jets on it.i cant even wear any jets fodder out doors without feeling like people are laughing at me.pathetic....how dissapointing.......AGAIN"
jetsfan Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 11:38pm ET"3 points against the Seattle Seahawks? Mangini and the offensive, defensive coordinator need to all be handed PINK SLIPS simultaneously whether the Jets slide through the back door into the playoffs or not. Mangini is making the previous coach who said "you play to the win the game" look good. He needs to be demoted to bringing water bottles out to the players during the games."
josh Said:
Tue, December 23, 2008 - 11:54pm ET"being a jets fan for so many years, its still frustrating to see every season. While its frustrating it is familiar and somewhat the norm. We as a team need to find someone who can stand up and make adjustments where needed. there is no reason that we should have lost games to teams on the west coast who have struggled all season long. As great as Farve can be he is still not the answer."
Wayne Said:
Wed, December 24, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"What a waste! AND...... they have the NERVE to charge me $10,000 for PSL's next year plus raise my ticket prices. Woody Johnson is ruining this team. Sell it back to the Hess's Woody! I am a Mets fan also, and I went through this with them last year. How much more can a FAN take? Merry Christmas to all, and GOOD LUCK Chad."
aaron t Said:
Wed, December 24, 2008 - 3:23pm ET"i remember sitting in the stands when we were 1-14. This season actually feels worse than any other I can remember as a JET fan. We used to chant "JOE MUST GO" its time for ERIC TO HIT THE ROAD. "
Brian Said:
Thu, December 25, 2008 - 9:41am ET"After yet another "SOJ" season, I will be rooting for the Jet with the most passion, courage and determination Sunday, and that's Chad Pennington. When the Pats beat Buffalo, Jet fans will become fish fans for a day, as we would ALL rather see Chad go to the playoffs over the Pats. With Woody taking my seats from $115 to $400, I will soon be a former season ticket holder - Thanks Woody!"
norf4 Said:
Thu, December 25, 2008 - 9:51pm ET"As I have said to all the Jet-Fans here in Orlando; grabbing Favre was all about selling PSLs and Jerseys, not winning when it counts, which is December! Get rid of the whole front office; not just Mangini, otherwise, you can kiss-off a whole bunch of long-suffering S-TIC fans after next season Woody! You have some nerve asking us to pay for YOUR stadium, when you provide us with a lousy team!"
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Chris_in_NC Said:
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 6:36am ET"We spent a whole offseason building our running offense and our pass rush. We get an over the hill once great QB and abandon the run and jettison a QB who is having a CAREER year. Then our pass rush dies at midseason and every team starts picking apart our secondary. As a life long Jets Fan, with heavy heart I will root for Chad and The Phins this weekend, they DESERVE it. Go Penny!!!"
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