Fine-Tuning Practice While Prepping for Bills
Published: Thu, December 11, 2008 - 2:47pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, fieldhouse, third-down conversions
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12/11 — As I look out on the Jets practice fields from my second-floor perch at the Atlantic Health Training Center, I see grass and turf, flags flipping in the cold breeze, rain streaking the large windows in front of me.
One thing is noticeably absent: players.
After working the Jets outside in Wednesday's rain, Jets head coach Eric Mangini has taken his team into the massive new fieldhouse today for what I recall is only the second indoors practice since the Jets relocated to Florham Park, N.J., on Sept. 1.
Before practice, it was a good time for the coach to discuss some practice changes for this week, or the last few weeks, or this season. All coaches do this all the time, and Mangini went through some of the things he's altered and his thinking behind them.
■ A real emphasis this week has been on technique. "Sometimes that can get away from you a little bit as you get later into the season," Mangini said. "We've been reemphasizing that and really the basic things — hand placement, footwork and leverage. ... It's good to be able to almost go back to a training camp mentality and be able to work on those things."
■ Mangini also said for the last two years he and his staff have "tweaked" and "scaled back" the practice schedule. "As it gets later in the season, you try to scale some things back as much as possible while still getting everything done that you need to get done," he said. "Really, the practices overall have been scaled back, I’d say substantially, based on last year and the year before. This is just a scaling back of a scaling back.
"I think it always helps. The real important thing for us to do is when you do scale back, it means less reps and less time, you have to be that much more efficient.
■ Each week or so, Mangini and his coaches go over not only the game past but the practice week past to see if there are things they want to do differently. "We spent some time with one of the younger players today," he said by way of example. "I guess we really talked to the younger players about keeping a journal. It’s not like one of those ‘Dear Diaries’ locked up with a key or anything, but as you go home at night being able to write down some things that you thought helped you in your preparation, and draw on those things in the upcoming weeks."
Among the points for a young player might be to emphasize his footwork, organize his notes, maintain a hot tub/cold tub/massage schedule.
■ Today is third-down day, so the "yellow line" concept that OC Brian Schottenheimer brought with him when he arrived in 2006 comes into play. Unlike the computer-generated first-down lines we've become familiar with on our network broadcasts, these lines are painted on the Jets' turf and grass fields at the 33-yard line.
The offense and defense will set up situations off of these lines — the ball will be placed at the 25 for a third-and-8 play — and players can actually see where they need to get the ball to "move the sticks."
A few weeks back I broke out a chart showing how well the Jets were doing in third down conversions over a six-game span compared to other excellent six-game stretches. Now, to underscore Mangini's statement that third- and fourth-down conversions are something "we have to do significantly better," here is a chart on the last two weeks of third-down offense, which have produced one of the lowest conversion rates of the last 12 seasons:
| Season | Span (Opponents) | Convs.-Atts. | Pct. |
| 2002 | Games 1-2 (at BUF, vs.NE) | 3-20 | 15.0 |
| 2002 | Games 2-3 (vs. NE, at MIA) | 4-24 | 16.7 |
| 2007 | Games 10-11 (vs. PIT, at DAL) | 5-27 | 18.5 |
| 2008 | Games 12-13 (vs. DEN, at SF) | 4-21 | 19.0 |
| 2007 | Games 13-14 (vs. CLE, at NE) | 5-26 | 19.2 |
Interestingly, the last two weeks come off the previous two weeks — the wins at New England and Tennessee — when the Jets offense combined to go 16-for-29 on third downs, a fine conversion rate of 55.2 percent.
And the coach said the offensive players still have it in their hands to beat opposing defenses to the third-down punch.
"It hasn't been a function of getting a significantly higher amount of pressure. It hasn't been skewed one way or the other coverage-wise," he said. "If there was one thing trending like that, we'd definitely counter it. It's more us being able to do things we've been doing better. Some are drops, some are throws that could be better, some are protection breakdowns. We improve in those areas, we'll be a lot better."
Injury Updates
The Jets' injury report today remains the same as Wednesday's. The Bills' report shows that WR Josh Reed (back) and DT Marcus Stroud (hip), both of whom didn't practice Wednesday, were at full participation today and S Donte Whitnere (illness) is no longer listed and is practicing fully. However, QB Trent Edwards (groin) and DE Aaron Schobel (foot) remained sidelined for a second day, and early tonight the Bills announced that Schobel has been placed on injured reserve.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (35)Ira Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 3:48pm ET"Randy, Just hope the coaches get through to the players this week. We all know how important this week is to turn around the season. Good chart but in the previous years atleast they were facing top defense besides the Browns. This year there is no excuse. The Niners and Broncos defense is nowhere near those other teams mentioned. In matter of fact they are both one of the worst in the league."
Rich Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 3:54pm ET"Jets are the best team in the NFL; they proved it by the win over Tennessee. The veterans should have been a little harder on the players letting them know not to let their hair down just yet, if the Jets play as hard as they did in the next games as they did with Tennessee, they can an will take it all. "
Patrick from PA Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 3:59pm ET"One thing that bugs me from the Mangini press conf. on wed is that when asked about the secondary he couldn't point out one thing that is wrong. We are 31st against the pass, there has to be quite a few things wrong. Did you ever think its the schemes you are calling, like never bringing heat. How can you expect the DB's to maintain coverage whether zone or man without help from a consistent rush?"
jak, 19 wk jet fan Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 4:11pm ET"jets need some inspiration and unison.. show some films of past superbowl champions city parades [giants last year n.y. celebration] ,ect have the offense and defenses seperately perform some non football related activity together..like working on houses for habitat for humanity. or taking apart a car and rebuilding it. if pratices r shortened ,lack of cohesion could b detrimental."
MikeMc Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 4:29pm ET"Baby steps, Buffalo has been struggling to score points, so lets eliminate penalties, & run the ball until there is 8 or 9 in the box, the we start pushing the ball downfield. 17 pts should win this one if our "D" shuts down Lynch. I have full confidence in the talent on this jet team, now we need to see it."
scjoe Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 4:39pm ET"The funny thing about this team is that they are capable of going either way these last three weeks. We can see the team that beat NE on the road then took apart the undefeated Titans away, or we can see the team that lost at home to Denver then to the struggling 49ers the next week. Just can’t put my finger on it, but hope we don’t see the latter. "
BigEd Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 4:47pm ET"Sorry Rich but the best team in the NFL doesn't play flat. They don't lose to teams they should beat."
ed duignam Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 5:01pm ET"Rich...dude....get that "kool-aid" outta your hand!.....The Jets are not even the best team in the AFC East!....Think about it...last year this time what was your opinion of Chad?? AWFUL! RIGHT?...ME TOO! Now Chad goes to Miami and everything is clicking!!...I gotta an idea....Send Mangini to Miami and bring back Chad!....He obviously wasnt the problem last year! MANGINI MUST GO!"
AdamE Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 5:31pm ET"Mangini is not the problem! The players still have to execute the plays. The problem is our coverage. They are letting receivers just run wild. They need to start getting physical with them at the line and not let them get comfortable. "
wayne Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 5:59pm ET"Remind these guys that the team that actually won the SB are still showing pride and showing on sundays. The Titans played 3 extremely difficult games leading up to Jets who had 10 days off. It was their game to have.Saw from Buf game where new TE was tearing defense apart that this team had huge hole. Bowen, Pace Thomas can't cover. Any good QB will rip this team apart(Chad). Wrong parts AGAIN."
Row Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 6:05pm ET"One thing I noticed was when we played Denver, they had 43 passing attempts, 49ers-39, Chiefs-36, Arizona 57! No team in the NFL should be able to pass block 35+ plays against anyone, period. This is completely ridiculous! I think this week we will change this, or we will lose the rest of the season. Fire it up, bring the pain. I want to see Gholston at DE! Go Jets"
Damone Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 6:07pm ET"Everybody that knows the NFL knows we have talented players on defense.Yet we are ranked 31 against the pass.IT'S ALL COACHING!!Both coordinators are messing up but Sutton is just horrible.I said Horrible!!Shotty needs to call more dink and dunk plays and that will open up the big stuff.With a team like ours....it's not rocket science. "
dade county jets fan Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 6:18pm ET"This is the most important game of the season. If the Jets lose this week then the pats have the edge on us in tiebreakers and so would the ravens and colts. Jets dolphins and pats would all have the same division record but then the jets fall behind in the next category which is: record in common games."
dade county jets fan Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 6:24pm ET"If the Jets lose then the only hope we have is that they win in seattle and against miami with the patriots losing the last game to the bills. That would give the jets the edge in tiebreakers to end the season. Its tough but they can pull it out. I'm flying home to ny this weekend from dolphin land (miami) to go to the game. GO JETS!!!!!!!"
CFU Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 7:19pm ET"I would love to see Gang Green in the SB but then I woke up. Until the DC and OC are replaced we will never go. We'll be lucky to make the PO this year if we keep playing the way we've been these last 2 weeks. I don't understand how we could beat Buf.NE and Tenn and be so dominate to suddenly revert back to crap. We know what this team can do so do it Mangini ,stop trying to out think yourself. "
fljetfan Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 7:31pm ET"all the chad talk but has anybody noticed hes put up just 16 points his last 2 games against 2 bad teams? no thanks, ill take #4 all day long. we'll see chad week 17........ cant wait"
Sam Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 8:25pm ET"RANDY can u pass this to ERIC. I want to suggest to MANGINI that he make the emphasis of technique a (REGULAR) part of the WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY practice every **(4TH)** week or 4TH game. ERIC, I mean be PROACTIVE with the Emphasis of Techniques. ERIC, don't **(WAIT)** for the team to LOSE a game to emphasize the techniques. Reemphasizing the basic things, hand placement, footwork and leverage."
jet jeff Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 9:05pm ET"rich , are you kidding me , did I read that write , "
jet jeff Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 9:16pm ET"pennington is showing what he can do under solid coaching and I think favre looks really frustrated but would not say ,but I believe it the defense and the receivers , he cant wait to retire"
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 9:33pm ET"I know sometimes Schotty calls plays that make you scratch you head but the Jet O is avgs. 27 points a game the problem is the D Sutton must go & if the Jets dont win 2 out of the next 3 Mangini must go "
Frank Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 9:39pm ET"Some things I think. First I have absolutely no feel for this game it could go either way although I suspect with the season on the line I would expect the team to win. If they lose this week I think mentally they will be finished for the year. Mangini & Co. need to call an aggressive game on both sides of the ball pressure defense and pressure offense. This team all of a sudden looks very old."
ed duignam Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 2:07am ET"Sam....dont go gettin all technical on us!.....Mangini needs to "SHOW THE MULE THE TWO BY FOUR!" ....LETS PLAY LIKE WE WANT IT MORE THAN THE OTHER TEAM!"
Ira Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 7:03am ET"Costello has a interesting article in the NY Post today about the Jets problems on 3rd down conversions the past 2 weeks. While his #'s are correct he clearly shows that LC and Cotchery have been forgotten men. But nmaybe he should've have pointed out that the Broncos and Denver took them out of the game. Its time for Schotty to be more creative on 3rd downs and get this team back on track."
Frank Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 7:08am ET"A few more observations.Bowens comments earlier this week are extremely disturbing and an indictment against the coaching staff.Tangini jetted and refuses to employ passionate personalities.If Mangini wants to act like little Bill then he needs a few strong outspoken personalities in the lockerroom to do his bidding. Instead you have leaders like Coles and Ellis who are useless and bad role models"
Frank Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 7:13am ET"By the way Mikey Mc there has never been a question about the team having talent. The question has always been whether the coaching staff is up to the task. It is now a 3 game season and if Mangini can't motivate and put the team in position to win he has to go. The division was handed to him on a silver platter he needs to seize the moment."
uncle joe Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 8:41am ET"Hey Randy,On Jets extra point(The clip shown on this sight)who stopped Ray Lucas from making the best throw of his career?The other guy(I forgot his name)said that Buffalo is asking their fans to wear green to the game to get in the Jets heads.Lucas crumbled up paper to throw at him and he stopped.Why did no one correct him?It seems this organization is slipping up everywhere,Except you that is!"
nadeem Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 8:55am ET"yea ive been a jets fan since i was 4 i love my team so much and i think they doing great...and im really happy with the coaching staff..eric mangini has this team moving in the right direction..kellen clemens will improve when favre retires for the second time..cuz if u learn by favre for 1 year u have learned alot...i love manginis 3-4 defensive schemes...J--E-T-S "
blity Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 8:56am ET"randy y r we under the pat and the fins in the standings"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ablity, the Jets are on top of the standings on newyorkjets.com. Anywhere else, it's up to the news outlet to determine how to place tied teams. At this point it's probably alphabetical in your local newspaper. "
Ira Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 9:26am ET"Frank, You're right on the money about this weeks game. I have no feel at all about this week after last weeks debacle. With their season on the line this week if they don't come out and play a great game and win then i just don't know anymore."
Blinka Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 9:53am ET"Ira, It does not matter if the coached get through to the players. Bad things will continue to happen when The Jets rush three. Go back and review the tapes. You cannot dispute this. It almost looks funny seeing Thomas and Pace in pass coverage."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 10:43am ET"Frank I agree be very aggressive on both sides of the ball. I also agree if we lose this week the team may mentally pack it in. I hope thats not the case & we take care of business so I can get back to defending the staff next week. You have to win first to have credibility & allies in the locker room , hopefully this will happen in the next few weeks & beyond. First beat the Bills,beat em good !!"
JETFOREAL Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 11:00am ET" that must make you 7 what have we learned form favre that 12 million can still get you the highest interception award in the leauge and that the only direction this team is moving into is the locker room to clean it out and eric the 2nd best team must be the browns because they beat the giants kellen clemens lol my goodness these statements get crazier then the guys pouring the koolaide "
ed duignam Said:
Fri, December 12, 2008 - 12:15pm ET"BLITY'S CORRECT ANSWER: By NFL tiebreaking rules, the Jets are the legal owners of the Division Leader. First tiebreaker Head to Head, Second tiebreaker Division Record..Jets at 3-1 in division win the tiebreaker right now. Randy, get your feet off the desk in your comfy office and research your answers more thoroughly!"
Randy Lange Said:
"ed, there is no "legal owner" of the division lead until after Week 17. I detest the construction "if the season ended today" because the season doesn't end today. Ablity did not ask me who might have an edge in the division race; if he did, I would have told him, as I've told others who've asked recently. He asked why the Jets weren't listed in first place in a particular set of standings (perhaps NFL.com's) he looked at and I gave him a possible explanation."
Keith Valentino Said:
Sun, December 14, 2008 - 8:22am ET"How is anyone truthfully going to put Brett in the middle of this. I guess no one would have put him down when they beat the Titans. If your Jet fan, you don't put down Brett. I beat he plays better then you do! Get real and look at his career record for most consecutive starts by a quarterback. I get hurt just watching the hits on him DUDE!"
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Hogan Said:
Thu, December 11, 2008 - 3:40pm ET"My confidence in this team is slowly comming back. I knew we would lose to Denver and suspected SanFran but have a good feeling about this one. The Buff. confrence calls are a must read. They sound very scared of us."
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