Mangini Addresses Shaun Ellis Situation
Published: Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:04am ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, Shaun Ellis, team captain, San Francisco 49ers
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12/05 — Jets head coach Eric Mangini wasted no time addressing the reports that Shaun Ellis, his veteran DE and defensive captain, was arrested for possession of marijuana last Saturday near the team's training center in Florham Park, N.J.
"What I can tell you is that when the incident took place, Mike [Tannenbaum] and I gathered as much information as we could," Mangini said in his opening remarks at today's news conference. "We sat down with Shaun, discussed the situation with him and expressed our disappointment with what happened.
"And Shaun did what I fully expected him to do. He expressed disappointment to us, the fans, his teammates, his family and to himself. At that point we disciplined him internally. Now it's a pending legal matter."
Ellis, in a statement released by the team, stated: "I apologize to my family, the fans and the organization. As a captain, I set a poor example for my teammates as well as all NFL players. Although this is a pending legal matter, I understand that I have to be responsible for my actions."
When Mangini opened the news conference up to questions, some reporters pressed him on what the discipline was, why it wasn't made public immediately, why the process doesn't appear to be transparent. Mangini calmly but strongly explained the organization's decisions in this matter and its approach in general to such situations.
"We went through it, discussed it, discussed it organizationally," he said, adding in response to another questions, "We've taken internal action and I feel comfortable with the action we've taken. We've discussed it with Woody [Jets owner Woody Johnson]. Our approach to personal conduct hasn't changed one bit.
"I can tell you we've been consistent with how we've acted over time. We're very consistent with the type of people we bring in. Our approach hasn't changed. There were disciplinary actions taken. They are internal. I hope you can respect that."
Mangini also said his players know how seriously he and the organization take these matters.
"This isn't something that's just addressed during training camp," he said. "It's addressed during the season, during the course of the off-season. Every situation is different. There's not one cookie-cutter way to handle each one. It's taken seriously. They understand that and they realize that."
He said the team's approach to such situations "has been very consistent over time."
Mangini said Ellis will play Sunday at San Francisco. He will also continue to act as one of the Jets' two defensive captains and six team captains.
As for possibly sanctions from the NFL, he said: "The league goes through a process of looking into any incident. They'll act accordingly at whatever point they decide to act. ... Really, there's no set timeline on these things. I'm sure they'll look at it, research it, do their due diligence. Whatever timeline they decide is when it'll happen."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (71)Sam Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:46pm ET"I think the JETS felt left out by all the attention the GAINTS were getting with Burress. So the JETS said we can get some attention too if we get SHAUN ELLIS to get busted for marijuana. And what is really the big problem with marijuana? I have heard a LOT of football players use marijuana is help with the PAINS from football. "
NYJOEY Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:16pm ET"ELLIS IS A CHAMP, ONE MISTAKE -- NO ONE'S PERFECT, MUCH LOVE TO ELLIS. GO JETS!! SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR!! "
MikeMc Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:21pm ET"Ellis what were you thinking?Your blessed with the ability to play in the NFL & make an excellent living. I can't understand why so many players take this priveledge for granted by doing stupid preventable illegal stuff. Save it for retirement if thats your bag.This team is trying to accomplish big things & this is not how a captain leads by example, marijuana will not increase your sack total."
Ray Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:29pm ET"I don't know what action they took, but they spoke about it from top to bottom and Mangini says they handled it consistently over time. So unless more info comes out to say otherwise it is done. And unless there is more to it than we already know, the NFL policy is clear. If they don't suspend him we won't either."
wayne Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 1:56pm ET"Ellis is suppose to be a team leader, elder statesman and example to younger players. Should be held to higher standard. I'm sure it's the first time he's used the "stuff". I guess it's ok as long as he's going to help "my" team win. That's why he's been missing all this time while collecting the big paycheck...same reason Abe is gone..."
jimmy quinonez Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:19pm ET"man the authoritys is out to get every athelete..why dont they go after real crime..its so pathetic...woowww marijuana is a big head line..shows you how weak the media is when it comes to storys "
Drew Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:37pm ET"C'mon Wayne...enough with the Abe trade already. Besides the Abe's DWI he was always hurt. He was a special pass rusher when he was "on the field" We got a 1st rounder for a part-time player....Who also happened to turn into N Mangold. I again am not defending Ellis at all but he plays hard and has never had a problem before this weekend."
David Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:41pm ET"Sam you are right, I have heard that players use marijuana for pain relief. Maybe Shaun Ellis will need some marijuana to help relieve the PAIN of going to JAIL."
joe b Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:51pm ET"It didn't say he was using pot. It was found in the car. It could have been a roach that he or someone else used earlier. He wasn't tested. Also the police car was unmarked. I have read many articles where people are pulled over by unmarked cars and robbed. I am not sticking up for him, but lets see all the evidence before we convict him. Innocent till proven guilty. GO J*E*T*S "
Dnice Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 2:55pm ET"Now its time to plug in Gholston... everyone is replaceable."
scjoe Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 3:18pm ET"Randy, do you know if there has been a clarifaction from the league on that terrible call last week on the Cotchery fumble when he was down and had the ball in his possition. I believe that could have been a 14pt. swing and maybe a different game."
Randy Lange Said:
"I am aware of no clarification from the NFL on the Cotchery fumble call, scjoe."
sal Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 3:44pm ET"This happened last Friday? What other surprizes are we in for? He shouldnt of played Sunday, Dissapointed in Ellis and MGMT."
supercooljetfan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 4:47pm ET"whats the big deal about ellis...these guys stay in shape all season and play hard that none of us would know they are smoking pot...the only reason why we know is because it made the newspaper...im more disappointed that hes speeding around... he can be doin worse ask plax and vick"
Tom Spicer I bleed green Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 4:55pm ET"Randy, if the Fish & the Pats win out they will be 11 & 5 & if the Jets go 3 & 1 losing the last game to Miami they would be 11 & 5 as well. I know the tie breaker is division record all 3 teams would be 4 & 2 in the division. Does the tie breaker go to conference record at that point ? If it does Miami would win the AFC east they would be 8 & 4 in the conference & the Jets & Pats would be 7 & 5"
Randy Lange Said:
"Tom, the first four division tiebreakers are head-to-head, division record, common-games record, conference record."
ed duignam Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 5:10pm ET"i added a comment when randy first posted his article....he chose not to print it...ok, i have only been a jets fan since "BOOZER" won the Championship....but i will reiterate my point: It is time for Ellis and Thomas to prove their worth! The entire defense has been rebuilt, after both of these guys got the big contract!..Each should have 10 sacks with the addition of JENKINS!"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 5:25pm ET"Supercool, Vick should never see the light of day for his crimes he even sacrificed the family pet, Plax is in felony trouble it could have been worse if a bystander was hit or he shot himself in another spot.I don't think Ellis should be in any legal trouble other than a fine, if he was on the Bengals I'd laugh. My issue is with Mgmt letting him play last week, they preach character&intelligence."
The Green Titan Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 7:33pm ET"You know I'd like to give people who throw rocks an extra $500,000 a year and see if that would make them a better beter human being, as if money or fame would somehow make them more responsible. I'd rather measure a person by the sum of their actions as opposed to a single mistake, and so by that measure, I'm glad to have Shaun Ellis as a JET, and I wish him well. "
sal Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:16pm ET"Randy when was the last sack by ellis"
Randy Lange Said:
"sal, Shaun Ellis' last sack was a split sack in Game 8 at Buffalo."
Scooter Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:25pm ET"Randy...do you think Jets should remove "C" from Ellis? I do. Stupid actions shouldn't be rewarded. Maybe this explains Jets lackluster efforts vs. Denver. I'm sure the distractions didn't help. "Coach", Tannenbaum and Woody need to send a strong message. Suspend Ellis, pull the "C" and maybe the rest of the team will take notice!"
Richard Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 8:56pm ET"Randy: I am VERY disappointed in the Ellis matter. Since the incident happened the friday before the Bronco game, I am convinced that it was the drag on the team peformance & loss to Denver! Something didn't seem right. The team DID NOT play with inspiration. Ellis sandbagged all of us. HE SHOULD NOT HAVE PLAYED! Also, the team excuse, "we didn't play our best" is NOT acceptable for a Pro!!"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 9:15pm ET"Here we go with the bleeding hearts crap .. Give me a break will you!!! 1st time offender . Right 1st time being caught is what you mean don't you! ...I know he just starting smoking yesterday & jets don't pay him enough to buy insurance... How old is he & how stupid & irresponsible is any 1 who drives without insurance.... Car is like a loaded weapon in the wrongs hands is it not Find him huge"
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 10:16pm ET"Ray I will help you with the adage stupidity best way to explain it"
Rich Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:03pm ET"I have said it before and ill say it again.... one of the few people on this site i will agree with almost every time is Drew. yes he messed up... but nobody is perfect... it was some pot not the end of the world.... he isn't OJ Simpson or Plaxico he had marijuana on him. GET OVER IT!!!! why arent people more concerned with the game coming up??? Bigger news to me is that Harris may be coming back!"
tim in nj Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 11:56pm ET"scjoe, you can see Mike Pereira discussing the fumble here: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80d0448e"
Kevin Clark Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 12:19am ET"This whole incident is really a shame. I like Ellis as a player, I have his jersey and he has been my all-around favorite player. I have is jersey too. I hope he's at least remorsefull. I wonder what actions the league will take on this...?"
Ray Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 2:49am ET"Wayne I don't see anyone saying it was his first time using the "stuff", it was his first "offense" so he is not being suspended by the NFL unless more info comes forth. Sorry guys, count me among the ones who think this is a big deal about nothing. It wasn't like he's Nate Newton lugging pounds. I am more baffled by the fact that he makes millions and he is driving with no insurance?"
Frank Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 6:47am ET"Drew you have zero credibility when you bring up Ellis stats that has nothing to do with it this. Second Coughlin suspended Plax for being late to team meetings and personally I hope they dump him after the season he is another poison I want gone. Dealing with Ellis he is a Captain and the worse part about this is the way he handled himself. Normal non-union people would lose their job over this."
Tom Spicer fan since birth Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:30am ET"Ellis has been on the Jets longer than any player he is the captian of the D & we have never heard a peep from the guy in 8 years. He is a great 4 - 3 end in 2003 & 2004 when he played 4 - 3 end he had 13 & 10 sacks now FOR THE TEAM is is playing out of position at 3 - 4 end & his numbers are down cause of that he is a STUD & after 8 years I think he has earned some slack some of you are getting "
Tom Spicer #1 Jet fan Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:38am ET"carried away this is his 1st offense. Also benching him for a game will only hurt the team you have to hit him in his pocket & we do not know how much the Jets fined him so we cant comment on it. Was he wrong yea was what he did stupid yea but throw him off the team that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. "
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:47am ET"ed duignam 4 - 3 LB'S put up big tackle numbers & 4 -3 DE'S put up big sack numbers in the 3 -4 it is more of a team effort 3 -4 DE'S most of the time do not put up big sack numbers 7 sacks for Ellis so far is a great year & as far as Thomas Sutton is not aggresive enough I think Pace & Thomas could have 10 sacks each but Sutton does not send them enough "
Jim Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:03am ET"First off, there is no way that this is the first time Ellis probably had been involved in drugs, its just the first time that he was CAUGHT! What a poor example he is showing as an athlete and one of the captains of the squad. The Jets should have suspended him for the 49er game to demonstrate to the other players, fans, etc that this type of behavior is not acceptable. What did they do fine him?"
MikeMc Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:28am ET"Rich your rationalizing the Ellis incident by comparing it to previous felonies committed by other players, thats wrong this needs to stand on its own. I have little problem with the weed, speeding,& lack of documentation, again my problem is with the organization not making an example out of him. This type of problem can spread & then we have real issues.Code of conduct must be enforced for all."
Duaine Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:31am ET"Mike Jet Vet shut up I am sure you have done something in the past that you are not proud of .Do you think its easy to live that life , you have never been there, so do not judge. Lets just hope these athletes which are humans try to keep a level head.People like us seem to forget they are just like us with more money. Lets go JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
winnette whitner Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:58am ET"Shaun and i dated years ago and i never got a chance to let him know how much i really cared for him and that he was a really super guy. i really don't think that nothing major should be done to him, but i do think that he should be punished. just something to let him know that he has to keep his nose clean at all times.i wish him and his family the best."
Jim Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 12:05pm ET"One of the big problems I have with this that I haven't heard anyone mention yet is that Ellis was reportedly uncooperative and disrespectful with the arresting officer. I haven't heard him or the organization apologize to the police. Randy, can you inquire as to why an apology to police hasn't been forthcoming? As far as I know, doing so would not jeopardize his defense."
ed duignam Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 12:29pm ET"Sorry Tom Spicer.....ellis should have at least 10 sacks with the double and triple on Jenkins week in and week out...oh, and by the way Mr. Seymore in New England has 8 sacks as a DE in the 3/4!.....WILFORK=JENKINS!"
Drew Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 1:32pm ET"Frank I know you can read so I'll retype my point. I was referring to Ellis's stats defending him as you called him overrated. Not in anyway using his stats to defend his poor decisions. They handled the A Jones DWI in 2006 the same way. Jones was fined 20,000 and did not get suspended. Why would they suspend Ellis. They have been consistent since they have been here."
Drew Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 1:36pm ET"You also continue to compare these players to the real world and real jobs. I am not sure if you're ever going to understand the difference. While I hate that athletes are treated differently they just are. It's not just Ellis or the Jets it the world or sports in general......Here's the facts the Jets lose zero credibility here as they have been consistant with their organizational punishments. "
Steven Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 2:09pm ET"Randy, what is going on with Vernon Gholston? Please tell me this wasn't another Jets draft blunder?"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 2:57pm ET"ed duignam, Seymore is mabye the best 3-4 end in the game 1st of all he has 7 1/2 sacks not 8 2nd what does that tell you? That tells you that Ellis is having a great year with his 7 & to say he should have 10 sacks in 12 games is wrong please tell me 1 3-4 end in the game with 8 sacks GUESS WHAT YOU CANT! 10 sacks is a great year for a 4-3 end or a 3-4 OLB that constantly rushes the QB 10 sacks"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 3:07pm ET"for a 3-4 end 9 out of 10 times you do not see it. Only 10 guys in the game have 10 or more sacks 5 of them are 4-3 ends & 5 of them are 3-4 OLB'S if you want I can list there names & sack totals ? I dont have to cause I think I proved my point DONT EVER QUESTION MY FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE AGAIN I PLAYED THE GAME FOR 18 YEARS & NOW I COACH IT THANK YOU NEXT !"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 3:12pm ET"Correction only 9 guys have 10 or more sacks but if anything that just backs up my point even further GOOD NIGHT !"
Ray Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 3:18pm ET"Gee thanks mike ex jet new fish fan, that "adage" you gave me was incredible. Do you have a clue what an adage is? What were you applying that "adage" to? Ellis? The situation? Or is this some comment from 3 blogs ago? That sounded more like a perfect "adage" for most of your posts."
Frank B Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 3:54pm ET"To error is human, perfection is divine! One mistake does not make him a horrible player, or person. To use him a scape goat in justifying the loss to Denver is ridiculous. We all know any team can win on any given Sunday. Let us all be supportive of him and respect the Jets organization for handling this internally. Lets all focus on burying the Patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Ray Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 4:01pm ET"C'mon guys. No one is foolish enough to be saying this is the first time he's used the stuff. It is his FIRST OFFENSE with the NFL. The rules are clear on how they handle this, and the Jets are going to handle it as they see fit, whether anyone in here likes it or not. "
Ray Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 4:46pm ET"Let's be real, these guys are football players. Just because you come into ungodly money doesn't change you into this socially responsible individual. It's not like he's a Politician....ok, it's not like he's a TV Preacher......uh, it's not like he's a CEO Wall Street type......I guess he's more like our leaders than I thought."
wayne Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 5:33pm ET"I wonder how forgiving we Jets fans would be if Ellis was suspended and team lost last 4 gms. I would bet he'd be burnt in blog effigy. The end justifys the means. Don't throw the person away, but don't soft soap it. I don't care if he's vital to the playoff run. SIT HIM.Change the culture on this team. No wonder leadership had to be imported: Jenkins, Favre and without them...Stand for something"
ed duignam Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 5:46pm ET"Hey Tom Spicer.....dont break your arm in your self adulation.....i simply believe that ellis obviously needs to care more about his skills.....i for one will no longer settle for the mediocrity that has been accepted for so long on long island...ie Mets and Jets....Ellis is running on 7 cylinders for 3 years now and must prove his worth....have a good weekend"
Frank Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 5:54pm ET"No Drew you got it wrong and so does anyone else who thinks anyone is above the law. He was caught with drugs which are illegal, he cops and attitude with a police officer & he has no insurance. Sorry bucko but he should have been suspended and the organization loses tremendous credibilty. Stop the stupidity of comparing alcohol(DWI) to illegal drugs. Plax got more for less before shooting himself"
ed duignam Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 5:58pm ET"Oh..by the way Tom...thanks for quantifying my point on LB Thomas...also unless you can get to Jay Cutler in under say 4 seconds, your football prowess is useless to the jets or this board!"
Ray Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 6:16pm ET"Wayne it seems he is already being burned on here pretty hard right now. Why should the Jets sit him if they haven't done that with other offenders in the past? Nobody's soft soaping it, it is what it is, nobody is defending what he did. But why should the Jets be harder on him than they would on any other player, or harder than any other team would be?"
BigEd Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"Can't say how disappointed I am. Of all the people Ellis would be the last you'd think. Don't know if you read these things Shaun but man what a grand disappointment."
draz67 Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:10pm ET"I didn't realize getting arrested for possession of marijuana was a "Jets Core Value". Leaders don't arrested. If Ellis has his paperwork in order chances are he gets off with a warning. Instead, he talks himself into getting arrested and searched by police. Good strong character and intelligence, give me a break. He should sit for 4 games. What hypocrisy. Denver loss = karma "
supercooljetfan Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:56pm ET"mikemc... i hear what you sayin about character issues but if the worst thing on this team is a little pot smokin i feel like the mgmt picked guys with good character...theres 60+ guys on this team and theres only 1 guy we know of smokin pot thas pretty good group of guys if you ask me...maybe a 1 game suspension the most he should get but you have some guys on this site that want to cut him"
Jeremy Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 9:53pm ET"If Ellis gets suspended, why not try Gholston out on the end and see if you can get something useful, out of a so far useless 6th overall draft pick."
Mike T Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 10:06pm ET"Ok, so Shaun bought some marijuana and yes it does violate the NFL's substance abuse policy but I would be more upset if he were caught taking performance enhancing drugs. There is nothing worse than artificial "talent". Shaun gets to join the club of millions of people in the US who have and still do smoke marijuana. For the NFL it's an image issue. For the Jets it should be a non-starter. "
Mike Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 11:17pm ET"I agree with moving Gholston if Ellis gets suspended cause he has been missing in action all season. Most likely he'll get a one game suspension, no big deal we pretty much have the playoffs locked up. J E T S JETS JETS JETS!!!!!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 11:20pm ET"Ed Duignam, posted at Sat, December 6, 2008 - 8:47am re read it I said Sutton is not aggresive enough I think Pace & Thomas could have 10 sacks each but Sutton does not send them enough so that does not back up your point. Also the Jets are trying to work in Gholston & they just gave Pace a $ 42 mil contract so guess who comes out when Gholston is in the game thats right Thomas so even with Sutton"
Tom Spicer Said:
Sat, December 6, 2008 - 11:30pm ET"drops his OLB'S into coverage instead of blitzing them & Gholston stealing some of Thomas playing time he still has his 2nd best sack & tackle total for his career & he has 4 games left. Sutton needs to rush the QB more with is OLB'S or take them out of the game & put in DB'S cause putting Pace & Thomas in coverage is not working also I would not play Vernon at all we need to win put the best in "
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 8:47am ET"What is testing procedure? Im just curious, I dont feel its a serious issue commited by Elllis but how does a player smoke it threwout the season & not get caught in a test? Even those masking agents are just the same as the drug if found in your system - A question i wondered whenever i hear a player is caught w/pot... Or do they not test for it???"
Frank Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:26am ET"Gee let's see. Woody gets to line his own pockets as a result of this but off course he can't risk not playing him for a game or 2. I am also insulted by the propaganda garbage since that "stand up" guy Ellis didn't tell Mangini a third person did. There is a history of players being suspended for this and yet the organization took the cowardly route. At a minimum he should have sat vs the Broncos"
Frank Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:30am ET"By the way draz67 excellent points made."
Drew Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 9:39am ET"Frank...I am not sure what the laws are in Texas but in Jersey driving under the influence of alcohol is illegal. They are both against the law my highly intelligent friend"
CFU Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 1:16pm ET"Big deal so S. Ellis got caught with some trees, if that's the worst thing then I'm ok with that. Some guys get caught in clubs , disordely conducts,DUI's and gun charges. Jets organization is one of the best teams with a good group of guys. Smoking weed isn't that big of a deal , I understand it goes against league policy so action has to b taken probably a fine and 1 game suspention. Isupport SE"
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 1:47pm ET"I gotta comment on JIMMY QUINONEZs comment-It's the same damn thing i read in the papers, NONE of these guys would have a problem w/bud if they kept it home or didnt speed down the highway w/a tail/headlight out while doing something like that or having it in their vehicle - JUST PLAIN IGNORANT-plus that whole im mightier than all attitude deserves it..."
Beverly Kane Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 1:52pm ET"Yet another incidentin t in NFL reality that sprung from the pages of Mike Lupica's fictional series, BUMP AND RUN and THE RED ZONE. If you want to be prepared for the next days sports headlines read these two novels."
Frank Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 1:59pm ET"Drew what's wrong with you? I mean seriously are you just in plain denial when it comes to anything Jets. Alcohol is not an illegal substance Pot, Weed or whatever that garbage is called is illegal...comprende amigo? or is weed legal in New Jersey too Buckeroo?"
Matt Pistritto Said:
Sun, December 7, 2008 - 2:43pm ET"I am against drugs & don't support the use of pot. But, to me this is minor compared to the bad actions resulting from athletes you read in the media. This should be settled with fines w/o even a game suspended. One game in football, a 16 game season, is like a baseball player sentenced about an 11 game suspension. Could you imagine 11 games for posession of pot? Fine public apology & service."
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Drew Said:
Fri, December 5, 2008 - 12:22pm ET"As I stated earlier....I am pretty disappointed in Ellis and really dont understand how these players think and what he was doing. I am willing to cut him a break considering his history. I also think the Jets are handling this as they handled the A Jones DWI back in 2006. Big fine no suspenion..They have not had any real problems with player conduct so I cant argue with their stance on this."
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