Ratliff's In-Season Role: QB Transformer
Published: Fri, November 28, 2008 - 5:38pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: David Harris, Eric Barton, Eric Smith, Brett Ratliff, Kerry Collins, Brett Favre, Jay Cutler
11/28 — Brett Ratliff lives, even if it's as the embodiment, at the moment, of Kerry Collins and Jay Cutler.
"I just try to work hard. That's what I do every week," said Ratliff, who's been the Jets' non-playing third quarterback for all 11 games. "I'm working as hard as I can."
The work is being recognized. On Wednesday, head coach Eric Mangini named Ratty the Jets' practice player of the week. That meant he had to do a pretty good job of impersonating Collins, the Titans QB who was held without a touchdown drive until midway through the fourth quarter Sunday.
I checked in with Ratliff after today's final practice of the week for the Broncos and Cutler, just to say hello and to see what the secret was to his nifty week of prepping the first defense for the Titans.
"I had a couple of good days," he said. "It wasn't the best week, but I had probably one of the best days I've had so far this season, just with my throws, my completions."
He also admitted to having some fun moving around in the pocket, even though that has drawn barks of protest from defenders: "Collins doesn't do that."
"You try to give them a look, but you also try to be yourself, have your own identity," Ratliff said of his role as the QB Transformer. "I just try to have fun with it, and I give the defensive guys a hard time and it frustrates them. Especially Eric Barton's always razzing me. They want me to try to take it a little easy on them. It just makes me go harder."
Ratliff's elusiveness came in handy this week, since that's one tool in Cutler's skill set — "This is the one week the defense can't get mad at me."
The young QB's preseason heroics are now faded memories, but Ratliff's looking ahead anyway, and he feels Brett Favre, who joined the Jets in August, is helping him do that.
"It's crazy how much one guy can motivate and change the morale of the team," he said. "It's been a lot of fun. He'll give you his say on things, and he'll say more whenever you have a question. He'll take the time to talk to you about it. He's got a little bit of everything just because he's been around for so long."
Many players in similar positions chafe at the seeming lack of NFL career progress as they're making while toiling on the "look" team, but Ratliff exudes a sense that he's helping the Jets with their upward mobility this season.
"I'm just working hard," he said, "and I'm excited about what's to come."
The Injury Front
Mangini wasn't promising anything regarding his injured players — he never does — but he gave an upbeat progress report for LB David Harris (groin) and S Eric Smith (head) before today's practice.
"Both of them have participated substantially in practice," the coach said at today's morning news conference. "We'll have to see with David where he's going to be. Eric, I'll look at that and see where he is as well. They're two totally different injuries. I've been happy with what they've done, where they are. We'll see them today, talk to [senior director of athletic training] John Mellody and the doctors and the players and make a decision. They're both making big strides."
Both Harris and Smith were both listed as working limited at today's practice and as questionable for the Broncos on Sunday, according to today's final injury report of the week.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (36)Upstate Mike Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 7:26pm ET"I really liked what I saw from Ratliff in pre season. I think having Favre here to help tutor the kid is going to be great for him. His pre season play was far superior to Clemens', and I'm thinking he's our QB of the future. I'm still wating to see Clowney get in a game. Thought he also was fantastic in the pre season."
Mike Jet Vet Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 7:57pm ET"Hope Mangini is grooming Ratliff to take over after Brett calls it a career .. He's going to be the next up & comer .....The next sheriff in town that being said Pats lose to Pittsburg.. Matt C can't throw looking up at the moon is were he'll be all game .. So we need to beat Broncos to keep pace & will if we play our game "
John Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 9:38pm ET"How about Clowney---He is our Eddie Royale I bet he scores this week"
Ira Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 9:51pm ET"Randy, can't see them playing Harris if the weather is going to be rain. My quess Harris will be back next week or for the Bills. Nice hear up Ratliff and we will see next summer how much he and Kellen learned from Farve this year."
wayne Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 10:02pm ET"Feel real good about this kid Ratliff. Seems as if the light switch clicked on when Favre came on board. I hope that's the case. whether it's one or 2 yrs, Favre will be leaving and then the search starts all over again. It would be nice if Jets could get lucky and this kid turns into something special. He's got the tools. Clemens doesn't look like the answer."
Drew Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 11:27pm ET"Joe?? Were you watching the same Michigan games I was watching the last 2 years? (He only played 2 years not 4)Gholsten beat Long for a total of 1 sack in 2 games. He had 3 total sacks but 2 were against freshman OL? He used his speed/power as a DL not a OLB. He will have to adjust and learn something other than a bull or speed rush. BT and Pace are much better players right now!"
cjames Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:39am ET"This guy after Brett retires should be our starter!!!! The only way I would be okay with him not is .....when Brett retires at the end of the season that the jets pick up matt Cassel who's contract is over at the end of this year. It would be AMAZING"
jim the jet Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 8:05am ET"hi after brett retires ratliff looks to be our #1 what he did in preseason was great i hope they see that and don't stick with clemmes just because the the guy was suppose to be the#1. sometimes i think some for coaches have there head were the sun don't shine. just my take jim the jet"
walter Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 10:20am ET"I do have to agree that ratlif is the real deal.....i think he is better than clemins.He can move around in the pocket and has an arm for the long pass and is accurate from what i had seen in pre season.good decision maker as well when it comes to where the ball is going.I hope he gets the start in the future when the time comes.But for now lets go BF. GO jets jets jets "
MikeMc Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 10:33am ET"Guys pre season never means the guy can play, so lets not anoint a successor until we see him when the bullets fly for real."
t.o. Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 11:45am ET"im excited to see the jets organization realize what they have in Ratliff as QB of the future. i was never nearly as impressed by clemens play and lack of presence in the pocket. Brett Ratliff on the other hand has tremendous presence in the pocket, amazing downfield sight and true playmaking ability. The fact that he was also a wide receiver on the practice squad spekas for durability and speed."
Anonymous Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 12:04pm ET"I thought Ratliff was awesome in preseason. He has the size, arm and pocket presence to be a star in this league. He reminds me a lot of the other Brett on our team - you know the future HOF'er. I definetely think he holds more promise then Klemens and would love to see him be upgraded to #2 but Mangini is politically correct & I doubt that will happen. Anyway, its great to have him on roster."
Jets til i die Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 1:28pm ET"Brett ratliff is our future QB.... clemens hasnt done anything in the past, when given a chance, he could be a back up, or move on to another team if he feels like being a starter, not as a jet though. BRETT RATLIFF 's gotta b our next QB."
Hogan Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 1:41pm ET"I hope this staff does not over look Ratliff. I think he has much more of an upside than clemmens. He should get the start [if we do not draft a QB] when Favre retires."
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:07pm ET"lets hope brett f teaches brett r a thing or two,while their jets together.brett r did get a bit of playing time in the rams blowout,so thats a plus.mike vet, im thinking pats will beat steelers.also pats will likely win wildcard playoff birth.jets will shoot em all down."
Ken Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:28pm ET"I keep telling you guys, **(BRETT RATCLIFF)** is going to be FARVE's replacemnet, NOT CLEMENS. If you guys saw what RATCLIFF did in the JETS pre-season games, you will DEFINITELY see why RATCLIFF looks so much BETTER than CLEMENS. Almost every time RATCLIFF was on offense, RATCLIFF found a way to SCORE! I'm telling JETS fan now, BRETT RATCLIFF is going to be a GREAT NFL QB for the JETS!"
jak, 17 wk jet fan Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:31pm ET"OOOPS that was clemons that got the play time in rams game.instead of the aforementioned ratliff ,my mistake. they didnt air it here in midwest. and im still giddy over jets great season."
Peter Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:37pm ET"Based on what RATCLIFF showed us in the pre season games, RATCLIFF just seem to have that ability to find a way to SCORE! RATCLIFF is not the fastest guy, but he always seemed to be able to bye himself some time & MOVE around in the pocket when he had to throw the ball. Many JETS fans & MANGINI were (VERY IMPRESSED with RATCLIFF's) performance. Clemens had his chance & did not look good."
Sam Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 2:48pm ET"RANDY. Based on how good RATCLIFF looked in the pre-season games, do you think RATCLIFF has a better chance to replace FARVE than Clemens?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Sam, I can't handicap the QB depth chart for seasons ahead, but my question to you is: Are you related to Ken and Peter?"
Jimmy Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 3:10pm ET"I definitely think RATLIFF is going to be the next JETS QB after Farve leaves. RATLIFF always found a way to score when he was on offense with the Jets. Even all the announcers would say that RATLIFF played like a seasoned pro. They said RATLIFF played like he had been a QB in the NFL for years. The announcers were very impressed with RATLIFF performance in pre-season."
NYJMAN Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 3:26pm ET"I think Ratliff will be a good qb someday but it wont be with us the only way Clemens wont be our qb " unfortunately" when brett retires is if we import another big name qb at years end who has worn out his welcome in his current organization. IE. keep an eye on what's goin on in philly Mcnabb already looks good in green!!!"
jay-jay the jet Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 3:42pm ET"ratliff should deffenetly get the start {ofcourse after favre's done} he works hard and is a possitive out look on the team. from watching preseason games of ratliff he has the talent to be a leader and lead the jets after favre. ratliff has the ability to be a great QB if he keeps working at it . he'll be someting to watch in the years to com. hopefully he remains a jet for a long time"
scjoe Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 3:51pm ET"I loved what Ratliff did in the pre season, the Ratliff to Clowney combination can be with us for a long time (providing the Jets play their cards right) I thought Ratliff was far ahead of where Clemens was in pre season. But as another fan commented, you always have the politics involved."
JET Jason Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 3:55pm ET"First of all, I really liked what Ratliff did this summer. He made a real argument for a #2 spot on our team. But still we shouldn't be too good to throw Clemens under the bus. Remember how bad Peyton Manning did his first year. We got to give him a decent shot. Still though, right now, I still like Ratliff better, but I am willing to Clemens another shot."
Rick Roucoulet Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 4:27pm ET"Yeah RATLIFF is the JETS future unless we draft someone new. When Clemens & Ratliff were given chances, who produced??? That is the only way to look at it if you want to win, NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT"
Drew Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 4:57pm ET"Ill try to not knock Ratliff in calming everybody down about his preseason showing this year. But the fact is he played great against 2nd and 3rd stringers. Let us not forget that last preseason Clemens did the same exact thing maybe even played better. I loved Ratliff in college and on our roster but he hasnt faced real bullets yet and all I hear is he should be our starter in 09? Calm down guys"
rob in AZ Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 6:52pm ET"OK...we have Farve, a true HOF'er. Hope he comes back next year. Ratty looked great in preseason, but so did Clemens last year. When we were losing last year, everybody called for Clemens to go in. Look what hapenned. This talk about Ratty and Clemens is the same talk as last year with him and Chad. Lets enjoy what we've got goin with #4 right now and worry about the future next season"
Robert Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 8:06pm ET"I have had a blast following Jets and Brett this year but when Brett retires doesn't matter if the wr position doesn't improve. Too many bad routes. People talke about pre-season too much. Clowney was a GB reject. He was cut his rookie year because they have great wr's. I like JC but I don't believe Coles is #1 wr. A true #1 wr and LV&JC at #2 & #3 is what wil make the jets! Anyone agree? "
Ray Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 10:02pm ET"First lets get the spelling right before we christen this guy the starter...it has NO C....R-A-T-L-I-F-F. Holy crap, this guy faced nothing but the scrap heap in the preseason, I would bet most of the guys he played against either aren't in the league or rarely see the field. Let's see him play against STARTERS just one time before handing him the starting job shall we? He wasn't being... "
Ray Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 10:39pm ET"...seriously considered this year so he got second and third string action. Next year if big Brett doesn't come back then maybe there will be a qb competition between him and Clemens. If that happens he will get a chance to play with the first string and THEN we will have a true idea if this guy has what it takes. I like him too, but God, let's be realistic here."
matt Said:
Sat, November 29, 2008 - 10:40pm ET"nt many peopl kno that this is dwayne robertson vs. his old team,i think he wont be happy that he got dumped onto a 6-5 team as opposed to an 8-3 team.could this play a factor in the jets/broncos game?onto the ratliff subject.hes from utah.how many good QB's com from utah?and he played against back-ups behind a great o-line.as much as i want him to be our QBOTF,i dont think he'll be productive."
Che420 Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 12:32am ET"Ratliff and Clemens are both capable qb's, both can boast about pre-season success, and Clemens even has a few w's under his belt but they are totally different kind of players, should we add a true burner at wr, Ratliff would fit in well with a downfeild gameplan, but with the o-line and backs that we currently have Clemens is the better game manager with experience in that system"
jay-jay the jet Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 2:58pm ET"NYJMAN, we dont want Mc nabb he is old n washed up,and HE WOULD NOT LOOK GOOD IN GREEN. the past few years he did nothing 4 philliy. if it were up 2 me, i'd sign matt cassle, he's contract is up at the end season ratliff. we are looking for a talented young QB that can lead the jets. we have 2 do something about the QB sittuation. but that would be a pretty ideal move 4 the jets ,which i hope they"
Sam Said:
Sun, November 30, 2008 - 9:07pm ET"Yes Randy, Ken and Peter are friends of mine. We talk about JETS football all the time. But I think we need to learn how to spell Ratliff name correctly."
Jake Said:
Mon, December 1, 2008 - 11:30pm ET"Well, I know that all we saw of Ratliff was preseason but, this kid has an absolute cannon. I think that Ratliff is definetly more accurate then Clemens. If I were the Jets, I would try to prep this kid for the future, I think he has a real shot to be somewhat like a Tony Romo. A good arm, nice mobility, and also an Undrafted Free Agent. Prep him now. He has the tools to be very good."
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Joe Said:
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 6:24pm ET"Randy, how close are Jet fans to a Vernon Gholston sighting? Can Mangini find a way to get this guy a play here or there in obvious passing situations and instruct him to just pin his ears back and sack the Q-back? I live in Michigan and watched this guy destroy Jake Long and ANYBODY else that tried to block him on his way to a Chad Henne sack every time OSU and UM played for like four years. "
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