The TE Position, 2 Active Roster Additions
Published: Wed, October 29, 2008 - 12:42pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, David Harris, James Ihedigbo, Laveranues Coles, Chris Baker, Robert Turner, Dustin Keller, Bubba Franks, Marcus Mason
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10/29 — Today's news conference with Eric Mangini provided a lot of news, big and small.
On the injury front, Mangini played it down the middle, as you'd expect, about the prognoses for TEs Chris Baker and Bubba Franks, both with hip injuries, and ILB David Harris, with a groin injury.
"That whole group of guys, we're going to see where they are through the course of the week," the head coach said this morning. "Baker, that was really a scratch no one anticipated, us or him. That to me is a really good example of injury situations. You think a guy is all set to do everything he can, you go through the whole process, and he can't go. On the flip side, guys who all week look like they have no chance of playing, they go in on Sunday."
But as for the tight ends, Mangini was upbeat about the contribution from rookie Dustin Keller vs. the Chiefs when suddenly he and Robert Turner were the first two available TEs on the depth chart.
"Dustin played a lot more reps last week, and I'm not afraid to play him more than he has to this point," the coach said. "He's made good progress and he's taking more of a role there as a true tight end than maybe he had in the past when we had Bubba and Chris, three guys to choose from."
As for Turner, Mangini said, "he's our secret weapon. Word's out on him now, so I don't know if we'll be able to throw deep to him."
That was in jest, but Mangini was asked seriously about James Dearth, the long-snapper who is a tight end by scrimmage trade. Was he available for KC. Will he be available if needed, say, at Buffalo?
"James has played tight end, yeah. He can do some things, he has done some things in the past," he said. But he added, "That snapper position, that's one of those things that you really don't miss it till it's gone. Then you really, really miss it. You've got to weigh the cost/risk."
The coach addressed an important point when he was asked the same question Laveranues Coles was asked last week, about injuries in general but about concussions specifically: What happens when the team tells a player he's cleared medically to play but the player doesn't feel right.
"We're not going to force someone who feels he's at risk of injury to play. It's never that type of process where it's one-sided, we say this, you say that, your feedback's not important," Mangini said. "It's much more of a cooperative process. One thing I like about our approach and our guys is that they are a part of the process. They give good feedback and we take that feedback and make sure we're making good decisions."
Active Roster: Additions, Subtractions
Following up on the announcement Tuesday that Erik Ainge and Jesse Chatman were placed on IR, Mangini announced two additions to the 53-man roster: S James Ihedigbo has been signed from the practice squad, and RB Marcus Mason has been signed from the Baltimore practice squad.
Mason (5'9", 215) is an interesting addition. A first-year back in Washington's training camp the past two summers, the former Youngstown State back ran wild for the Redskins in the 2008 preseason. In five games, he rushed for an NFL-leading 317 yards on 66 carries and also led the league with 373 yards from scrimmage. Against the Jets he had nine carries for 55 yards.
"He's a guy we liked right at the end of training camp," Mangini said. "We didn't put in a claim, knowing Jesse would be back in four games, but we liked a lot of the things he did in the preseason. This is an opportunity to bring him here, get to know him, put him in our system and see what he can do on teams and at running back."
Ihedigbo, of course, is the free agent from UMass who's been with the Jets for two seasons. He had a preseason interception to thwart a Redskins red zone opportunity in August.
Another news development is that LB James Trusnik, who saw action as a rookie free agent last season but has been on the Physically Unable to Perform list since the start of training camp, begins to practice today and thus starts the 21-day window during which the Jets have to decide whether to activate him or IR him.
And LB Brandon Renkart returns to the practice squad.
Players of the Game
Mangini announced the team's award winners out of the Kansas City game: Offense — WR Laveranues Coles; Defense — Kerry Rhodes; Special Teams — Leon Washington and Chatman; Practice Player — Robert Turner.
Update: For those keeping score at home, Ihedigbo will wear the same No. 44 that he sported in the preseason. Mason will wear No. 26.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (39)Ray Land Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 1:29pm ET"They need to establish the off tackle run to Thomas and run play action off of it , either to the wide receivers or fullback. The opposing teams are teeing off on Favre."
keith Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 1:35pm ET"i hope to see more carries for LW now!! atleast he could break one as we saw. he really needs more touches."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 1:37pm ET"Drew .. all I"ll say is.. Did I heard u say we brought Favre in to help the running game & don't let him use his arm to win games .. I have heard your blogs your knowledge of the game exceeds that comment .. Don't embarrass yourself over mangini & staff"
HOGAN Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 2:05pm ET"I dont get it. Why not bring back Posiack, if nothing else just for a short time. At the very least get him on the Practice squad."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 2:11pm ET"Randy .. About your article OK got it 2 players on IR U addressed the RB replacement Mason , Did we address the TE problem ? From what I understood Ihedigdo is a defencive player not a TE ... Are we going with turner again or dearth .. I believe tony R can play a very big role this week if used right with all the rest he's be getting . Must have very fresh legs PB experience will help"
Ray Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 2:24pm ET"Cummings? Caulcrick? Pocsiak? I don't know anything about this Mason, but now he is on the team for the duration. Where is Clowney? "
Big D - CT Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 2:55pm ET"Randy, what is going on with Clowny? Will he be making an appearance anytime soon on a game day??"
Randy Lange Said:
"Big D from CT, I don't know the answer to that, although I do hope we get to see Clowney this season. He was very exciting for the first 1½ preseason games."
Ira Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 3:27pm ET"They will sign Pociask after this weeks game so they can pick his brain about the Pats. But in all reality he should be signed because they can use him. He earned a spot this summer and if they had put Ainge on IR at the end of camp they could've kept him. They need to bring him back."
Vaughn Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 5:17pm ET"No matter who the Jets use at TE, why are the Jets not running the ball? They are playing scared right now with the play calls and don't have faith in their running game. How are you going to shake up the defense if you aren't keeping them off balance by running the play action. If you're going to invest in an offensive line and an athletic TE, how are you playing as a pass first offense? Randy?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Vaughn?"
Jesse Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 5:29pm ET"Ira, trust me I don't think the Jets are just going to get rid of Eric Ainge. They'll probably put him on the practice squad. The practice squad did wonders for David Clowney and Brett Ratliff, and it'll really do wonders with Eric Ainge. I always thought that Eric Ainge was the second best QB in the draft right behind Matt Ryan."
Jesse Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 5:34pm ET"Randy, I'm surprised you didn't have any articles on that wild cat formation we ran in the Oakland game. It was kinda funny watching B.Favre in the wide receiver stance, although he looks like he can pull it off; he had a pretty good stance! I hope we get to see more of in the Buffalo game!"
Row Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 5:38pm ET"Finally someone mentions Dearth. Imagine where we'd be if we had signed Dominic Rhodes when I mentioned it, instead of Chatman. Mangini contradicts himself in the presser's. I think we need to do something like draw a flag as the Coach and players did for Georgia. It will really fire up the guys and only cost us a few yards on kickoff! Go Jets"
CFU Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 5:38pm ET"What's going on? Mangini should activate Cummings and Caulcrick why pick up somebody else? Both players did there thing in Pre-season why not give them a shot. Who is this Mason guy? I remember him being on the Skins but they cut him for a reason. Will probably cut Caulcrick and Cummings and see them be stars on another team. Isn't that are trade we hand out talent. I'm sick of Mangini nhisthinkin"
FDC Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 7:26pm ET"Trust me when I say "Redskins loss is Jets gain,. CFU you will find that there is nothing wrong with Mangini thinkin'. It's Baltimore and Redskins who will regret their decision". You're getting a real play maker. "
Troy Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 9:10pm ET" "This debacle is not Favre's fault , 1st off when your in a shotgun with 4 wr's and a 1 back the D knows your throwing(plus giving the fact our draw play out of the gun has never worked so the D not afraid of it)2nd when your spread out like that the opposing D is sending more people than we can block,inturn Favre has to get rid of it too quick and short of the 1st ,if he's not sacked"
Hemmz Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 9:58pm ET"y is mangini getting new guys on the roster caulcrick i think is pretty good. maybe caulcrick could turn out to be another guy signed to the jets practice squad and goes to the giants and happens to be good like Derrick Ward and Danny Ware. Wut was wrong with them wen they were part of the jets. or how bout musa smith he's good get him, he was on the jets for like five months. the rookie isnt play"
ray Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 12:17am ET"what are you talking about troy. the three ints where nothing but his fault HOLD THE BALL TAKE THE SACK. easy. Fire Tannebaum for drafting garbage and get chad back. one of those cant happen but one can. every time favre thrws i hold my breath thinking its a pick. Randy important question... Is curtis martin going to be a part of the organization or what. He should at least be an rb;s coach."
Randy Lange Said:
"Curtis Martin continues to seek NFL ownership. I don't foresee him becoming an assistant coach any time soon."
Davey Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 6:29am ET"Bring back Posiack,this guy can block and catch,I hope this guy mason can contribute,Go jets"
Randy Lange Said:
"Davey, Jason Pociask was signed to Tampa Bay's practice squad Wednesday."
uncle joe Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 8:25am ET"Loved Farve saying Going 30 for 30 for 100 yards isn't good.HELLO CHAD!The only reason Chad has some nice yardage totals is because his RBs ran with it after they caught it.I said it before & I'll say it again I'll take 2,3 Ints a game just keep scoring exciting TDs.Our Defense will clean up the mess!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 9:59am ET"Ray, Yea get Chad back that will help us alot your loyalty to Chad blinds you. If you know anything about football than you know Favre is better than him there is no talking about it ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL WILL SAY THIS. IF YOU DONT AGREE EITHER YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME OR YOU ARE BLINDED BY YOUR LOYALTY TO CHAD."
Anthony Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:15am ET"This guy before me is not serious ...Get Chad Back...If he would have taken any of the hits Favre has taken there goes his season please. I rather have a gunslinger throw an interception then lose my quarterback and lose the whole season. A few games of picks its falls on all the players Mainly Favre but the whole tema needs to get nsync to win this thing..."
Kurt Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:41am ET"Can someone please explain to me how we ran a pass heavy offense against the 32nd ranked run defense in the league? The game planning was horrible. Is Mangini calling the plays? If not he should take over ASAP. As for our fans... They need to get more into the game and not sit back and wait for something to happen. You could hear crickets when our defense was out there. The fans need to step it up"
sal Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:52am ET"get chad back, i got it short term memory, randy whats going on, reports has it trouble in jet land , espn, nfl network reporting team getting frustrated w game plans, shoty or mangini at faullt?, missied story,whats callahans role in offence"
Alan Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:56am ET"We all knew when the Jets got Brett what we were in for, Deep throws, good play action, throws in tight areas and of course INT's. This should surprise no one. The problem is the OC. He's scared to run the right plays at the right time. He sends in a pass play when a run is needed and vise versa. The defense is lacking an emotional leader! Someone needs to look at the Mike Singletary conference!"
sal Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:57am ET"one more thing, cant fault qb any qb when you call 30 or more pass plays in a game, we got one of the few who can still beat you after throwing 3 pics"
OldRogue Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 1:18pm ET"Jesse Said: 'Ira, trust me I don't think the Jets are just going to get rid of Eric Ainge. They'll probably put him on the practice squad...' I don't think so either, but putting him on the PS means any team could come get him at no cost, and someone surely would. Look for a Clemens trade (think NFC West). The Jets are VERY high on Ratliff and Ainge - they ain't going anywhere."
BS Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 1:34pm ET"enough with the empty backfield & shotgun on 2nd down...esp in the red zone. we need more play action in those situations cause we're not fooling anyone. plus sutton has to go on D.....need to be more aggresivie."
Ray Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 1:53pm ET"Spicer I want to be sure you are aware you were responding to "ray". I don't have any loyalty to Chad. In fact I was one of the ones in here last year calling for his head."
Rob Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 3:18pm ET"Glad to see Renkart back on the Jets. They need to put him on special teams if they aren't going to start him. "
richard Said:
Thu, October 30, 2008 - 10:09pm ET"Randy: This is going to settle on goof-ups & penalties..false starts..off sides..HOLDING, HOLDING,HOLDING. Please get to Coach and tell him to put "Batman" Carroll on the practice squad. I was with him from the stands in Green Bay for THREE YEARS and he cost them PLYAOFFS with his holding. The Refs know this guy and you can count on him being FLAGGED every time"
ray Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:18am ET"Chad is leading the sorry miami dolphins to 3-4. favre is leading a good jets team with two stud recievers to 4-3. he lost us the game against oak. and if it wasnt for coles' one-handed td grab we wouldve lost against kc. if cincy was half decent we wouldvelost that too. favre is leading the league in int's. he has more than O'sullivan. favre was good 5 years ago. his time is over. "
peruvn Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:29am ET"wow ppl on here r idiots. u would take farve over chad???? this year??? i def wouldnt. miami has won vs charges, patriots, and buffalo. while the jets lost to okland. beat cinci n kc. farve's numbers r terrible. 15tds 11 ints. chad 7td's and 3 ints. not great numbers but hes doin it againts better teams. he's also doin it wit pretty bad wr's while farve has the cotch and coles."
peruvn Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 12:32am ET"chad has more passing yards too. brett also loosin the game every time. that pick to the house against kc. jets almost lost to kc??????????? give me a break. the miami game was a fluke. jets shoulda lost if not for how terrible the miami defense was."
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 4:38pm ET"Peruvn you are double talking you have know idea what you are talking about 1 min. you are saying the Phins beat Bolts, Pats & Bills than the next you are saying we only beat then cause there D was bad HELLO ! they would not have beat those teams if there D was not good they held Bills to 16 points, Bolts to 10 & the Pats to 13 I THINK THAT IS A GOOD D. Also you take the guy who has played 1 full "
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 5:15pm ET"Lower case Ray, Do you know anything about football at all ? 1st Favre does not have more INT'S than O'sullivan 2nd Peyton Manning has 9 INT'S 2nd in the game does that make him a bad QB? 3rd Miami is a good team you dont beat Pats, Bolts & Bills if you are a bad team 4th Favre had 4,000 yards & 28 TD'S last year he led the Pack to a 13 & 3 record last year & lost the NFC championship in overtime "
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 5:32pm ET"last year the Pack had NO running game at all until week 10 when Ryan Grant took over it was all Favre & D so your Favre has not been good in 5 years is out the window. Favre has every record in the books he is the only player ever to win 3 MVP'S. Chad has had over 17 TDS 1 time EVER Favre has never had 17 or less EVER. Did you just start to watch football this year ? "
Tom Spicer Said:
Fri, October 31, 2008 - 9:48pm ET"Ray, you said Favre has not been good in 5 years well last 5 years TD'S 28 2008, 18 2007, 20 2006, 30 2005, 32 2004. How many times did Chad have more TDS than Favres worst year of 18 in 2007 1 TIME IN HIS LIFE! Favre has never had less than 18 TDS in a year EVER. So if Favre has not been good for the last 5 years that tells me Chad has never been good. "
MikeMc Said:
Sat, November 1, 2008 - 9:51am ET"Spicer loves Favre. Listen Chad is not here anymore, I would take Chad's coachability & Favres arm. Problem here is Favre wants to be off. coord. also. Easy now spice I know a little football & I like Favre, I was against the move only because Favre was a short term rental, but Chad wasn't the answer either. So I say lets not live in coulda, shoulda world & lets support the guys that are here."
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Ira Said:
Wed, October 29, 2008 - 1:13pm ET"Randy, Guess they like what they saw in Mason plus he has to be able to plat ST. Nobody mentions Murrell this guy has to get a shot. There are some spots were they are getting no production out of. Give Murrelll a chance.I think Ihedigbo will be good. He showed in camp what he can do and he is a hard hitter. Plus he is faster then Smith. The secondary must step up their play this week."
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