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10/26 — The Jets' physical woes continue after the Chiefs take second half kickoff and march toward the home team's goal line again. With David Harris riding the stationary bike behind the Jets bench, ILB is being manned by Eric Barton and David Bowens, with Bowens switching up with Cody Spencer.
And after a Tyler Thigpen completion to TE Tony Gonzalez to the Jets 22, S Kerry Rhodes is down and walks off slowly.
But Rhodes returns and the defense stiffens, forcing the visitors to settle for Barth's 30-yard field goal to give KC a 17-14 lead.
It is the Chiefs' first lead in three games, or since their only win of the season, by 33-19 over Denver in Week 4.
But Favre and the Jets have an answer that puts the Jets back in the lead, 21-17, with 48 seconds left in the third quarter. It's a 72-yard drive that started with a pair of second-down conversions from Favre to Laveranues Coles, added a third-and-6 chain-mover to Jerrrich Cotchery, then a 17-yard Thomas Jones burst through a massive left-side gash, and finally TJ following Tony Richardson over RG Brandon Moore and into the end zone on third-and-an-inch.
It was Jones' second crack on first-and-goal from the 2, and on both plays the Jets, hurting for TEs with both Chris Baker and Bubba Franks out, used two O-linemen as TEs in the heavy package: Robert Turner on the left side of the line, Wayne Hunter on the right side.
Fourth Quarter
The defense forces another punt and the Jets starting eating up real estate again, not in big chunks but in nice digestible bites. Jesse Chatman comes in the game and gets some leather time, and after he's tackled, Chiefs S Bernard Pollard adds 15 yards to the Green & White cause by getting flagged for taunting.
But the march from the Jets 22 to the Chiefs 8 comes horribly undone when Favre, trying to feather a third-and-2 pass to Chansi Stuckey, instead throws it right to rookie CB Brandon Flowers. Only Favre can stop Flowers, but Favre falls short of a tackle at the Jets 40 and Flowers completes a 91-yard interception-return TD that puts the Chiefs back in command, 24-21.
The play is the longest interception-return TD by a Jets opponent since Chris McAlister took a Vinny Testaverde pick 98 yards at Baltimore on Christmas Eve in 2000 and is the sixth-longest against the Jets in franchise history. Here are the longest IR-return TDs by opponents against the Jets and Titans (DTX–Dallas Texans):
| Season | Player | Opp | Yds |
| 1968 | Tom Janik | at BUF | 100 |
| 1961 | Dave Grayson | at DTX | 99 |
| 2000 | Chris McAlister | at BAL | 98 |
| 1995 | Eugene Daniel | at IND | 97 |
| 1993 | Eric Allen | vs. PHI | 94 |
| 2008 | Brandon Flowers | vs. KC | 91 |
But the Jets climb off the deck again. First comes a three-and-out stop of the Chiefs (after Cody Spencer turns a first-and-10 at the KC-2 into first-and-10 at the 20 by trying to keep a Reggie Hodges punt out of the end zone). Then another Neon Leon beauty, as Leon Washington spins out of a tackle and takes a punt 37 yards to the Chiefs 46.
Favre, after being sacked on first down, hits his next five, with the payoff a 15-yarder to Coles, who snags the pass at the pylon off his right hip against the coverage of CB Dimitri Patterson to make it Jets, 28-24.
Following the kickoff, the Chiefs have 53 seconds to go 64 yards for the game-winning TD or go home with a 1-6 record.
Thigpen moves the visitors to the Jets 40 as time slips away, but on first down he's sacked by David Bowens at the 46. And that sets up the next three plays, and the final play for the Chiefs: fourth-and-1 at the 31, Thigpen looking for rookie WR Will Franklin over the middle, but throwing behind him — and Franklin trying to come back for the ball but running into CB Drew Coleman, also trying for the ball. Incomplete. Jets ball.
And with one Favre kneeldown, the Jets finish off their 28-24 victory. A shaky victory perhaps, but a W that improves the Jets to 4-3 and in a much better frame of mind to go up to Buffalo to play the Bills, who have lost to the Dolphins, 25-16.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (69)sal Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:40pm ET"why are they passing 3rd two agiants the cheifs, namath said it best the teams concept is a problem, toble is there is none, lets see magini blame evey one else. the new teflon don"
Xavion Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:45pm ET"What is going on i cant see the game. Are we not pressuring them? Are there blitzes coming in?"
kimosabe Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:46pm ET"The jets game planing , and play calling are horendous.!! they deserve to lose. The coaching staff is totally at fault..!!"
jak,ex packer fan new jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:52pm ET"3rd and 2 .and we throw ....... int though reciever stopped running route uuugh favre . punt stops at 2 yd line and we roll it into endzone . shoot me now...wait leon washington just ran it to the 47yd line gotta watch this debacle more."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:57pm ET"Hey crew !! any questions ? or will it be more excuses.. Again out coached .. Again outplayed .. Again beat on both sides of the ball .. again bonehead plays.. Again stupid penalty's ... Again its yours & manginis logic without credibility .. Worst of all ........ AGAIN SAME OLD JETS"
sal Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:10pm ET"now watch me as i pull a rabbit out of my hat, "
jak,ex packer fan new jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:19pm ET"favres the reason i migrated to being jet fan.[ ok day today last int reciever stopped his route ] but neon leon what a wound up supercharged roadrunner 'beep beep ' catch him if you can. we need a young fullback . capable of gaining 2yds consistantly 4 short yardage situations."
Steve Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:20pm ET"Was never a fan of the Favre deal... Interceptions are killing the Jets. Cost them the game in Oakland and almost again today. Run the ball down that close to the goal line. Jets record would not be any worse with KC at QB."
hammer Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:22pm ET"not a win to be proud of,but a win nonetheless.Tthey better play better than this in Buffalo. Favre 's penchant for throwing picks is going to be our undoing this year. But, hey, they won a game they were supposed to win. "
Drew Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:26pm ET"Take the clipboard away from B-Schott. If he allows Favre to throw another redzone pic when we should be running the ball to ice the game I am going to explode. I wanted Favre here as much as anyone but the let Favre be Favre theory is ridiculous. His redzone pics are killing us. Get a running game rythym and then have Favre throw the ball. Leon saved Favre's tail today. Almost a nightmare!"
scjoe Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:31pm ET"A win is a win, and I will take it, but is there anyone out there that actually feels good about this team right now? What happens next week in Buffalo? How long do you stay with Favre and all those INTs? The more I watch Favre play and watch Chad play the sicker I get? I said it back in August, and I will say it again now....HUGE MISTAKE!"
Drew Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:33pm ET"I unlike other fans dont care if Favre throws for 300 and 3 TD's. I want to run the ball. TJisrunning well and Leon is a nightmare to tackle and we have Favre throwing into double-coverage. Again, I couldnt see the game but I assume Favre and Daboll were looking at those pictures everytime he threw a pic. Let me hear one fan say Mangini coaches not to lose. Too many coaches chances too lose today"
GIL Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:34pm ET"Man that game was the most intense game, Favre needs to relax and stop trying to be superman, Mangini needs to run the ball with Leon and T.J. this is stupid we should have blown them out not win by 4, but like everyone says a win is a win, hopefully Buffalo is damaged by their loss to Pennington and company for us to go in there and bang out a win. GO JETS"
james Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:38pm ET"What a W at list they did not fall. Give to KC they played as good as they couls. GO Jets!! We need more wins down the line..."
Allen L. Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:47pm ET"Thigpen will NEVER have another day like this is his LIFE!! Not even when he's fifty and playing in the Christian Seniors league. Mangini and Schottenheimer have GOT TO GO!!! Unbalanced offense and a leader with no fire adds up to another wasted season. Game would have been lost without Leon Washington - no doubt."
sal Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:49pm ET"Randy, or anyone what was Joe Willys TD to Interception ratio the year of the superbowl run. I od remember a long verticle game, w/ interceptions"
Randy Lange Said:
"sal, Joe Namath threw 15 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions in the 1968 regular season."
TnjetsFan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:56pm ET"Randy, please write about what you are seeing with this dysfunctional coaching staff. Mangini is about as fiery as a wet blanket (with as much personality) and Brian Schottenheimer gets lost in his play-calling, which is gutless. 3rd and 2 empty backfield and Favre throws 94 yad pick? 3rd and 1 later and Favre again is in empty backfield? Against the lowest ranked team in NFL against the run. "
alan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 4:57pm ET"I just don't understand the play calling , this guy mangini is killing me ,Y are they not running the ball and farve is so bad , is it time to bring in the other brett."
gjp Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:05pm ET"big deal, we beat a team that was 1 and 5 before today's game. KC is ranked 31 or last in every statistic. they started a 4th round QB who was making his 2nd start with an offense that averaged 149 yards a game, and he passed for over 230 yards. you better look at the coaching,because what are we going to do against the good teams.we already lost to one bad team and lucky to win today."
BP Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:10pm ET"Favre will have better days. But that 3rd & 1 bomb was just wrong. I knew what the play was before it was snapped. I don't think they're fooling everyone with these run formats with an audible in them. It's always a fake hand off & a big throw. Teams gotta get their act together because the tough part of the season is coming up! GO JETS!"
James Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:22pm ET" Its official i have worn thin on favre...he continues to energize the opposition and shift momentum with some horrendous throws...against a team like kc (or oakland for that matter) he needs to minimize his mistakes and let his teams overall superior talent take the w...his ego is obviously out of control and its only a matter of time before he throws a pick to ruin the jets playoff chances"
newjetsfan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:29pm ET"Sometimes Favre will throw 5-6 tds and sometimes he'll throw three picks, but he gives the Jets their best chance to win games. Because the man knows how to win. The offense looks terribly disorganized, and the defense needs to stay awake. There's a lot of talent on this team. "
mike ex jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:31pm ET"Hey guys here's my rebuttal on your comments about watching these jet games .... LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLLOL .. Sorry all I got "
greg Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:33pm ET"good thing the new york football jets have talent and heart. now if they only had alittle wisdom to follow up with the acquisition they made the last 2 years they could keep a qb healthy along with a defense that gets fatigue and hurt. run the ball behind your left line... establish the run and then go deep on play action. you'll save your qb and keep your defense off the field."
Troy Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:41pm ET"Brian Schottenhiemer is the worst play caller I have ever witnessed ,out coached again by a bad head coach ,"
newjetsfan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:43pm ET"I'll add something: Fans that boo when things don't go well for their team should stay home so the country doesn't have to watch their childish antics. "
shep Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:44pm ET"3 INT's is deceptive considering Favre's arm was hit once and twice protection wasn't - to say nothing of 3 sacks and how many hurries? 3-4 seconds isn't too much to ask. Also on his way to being sacked at least 1.5X more this year than last as well. 11X already. How many times under major pressure this year? Can't blame him alone . Step it back up, line. You can do it! Great job Leon!!"
ScottinAfghanistan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:50pm ET"That was one ugly game. Obviously, Farve wasn't the difference, he scored 14 points for each team. Leon is the only reason we won. I'm sure Mangini will say that they will go back and watch the tape. They MUST play better next week against the Bills. Get it together, guys. The D must play better, and Favre needs to stop giving the ball away!"
Moshe Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:53pm ET"I said it in a post earlier in the week: The Jets must run the ball. But they didn't. This win helps because they are still up top in the standings, but it doesn't make anyone think that they're a good team. Bad playcalling=barely a win."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 5:58pm ET"Finally .. Player on this team stood up & called out the team .. Kudos Kris Jenkins Instead of lamenting on the win , He understood how bad we played even in the win .. Told the players step it up pointed out stupid mistakes were making .. & if it doesn't change... Well I will put it this way .. We have no more so called easy games ..Only games we aren't expected to win , God help us"
Ken Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 6:11pm ET"Basic football 101 is PLAY ACTION pass to hold the Defense. I keep saying that the JETS have to PLAY ACTION PASS on EVERY PLAY to hold the "D" & PLAY ACTION will help the run & pass game. So y then is almost everytime FARVE goes to PASS, he goes into a SHOT GUN? IF you are in a SHOTGUN u can't PLAY ACTION PASS & the "D" knows that from a SHOTGUN u r going to pass & u take away the PLAY ACTION!"
MikeMc Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 6:16pm ET"MiketheEx Give it a break already your act is getting old! TNjetfan, wet blanket?would you rather have your coach clapping all the time, good plays & bad, for God sakes he clapped as his team came off the field losers.Drew, you can't blame Shotty for favre's stupidity,he's got more int's than all the Qb's combined in the entire history of the NFL. ( Relax Frank I know, its an exaggeration )We Won!"
newjetsfan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 6:41pm ET"MikeMC, I didn't say the coach should clap for bad play. I said the fans that boo at every bad play should go home. Read the words if you're going to reply to the comment."
james Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:00pm ET"come on guys Favre was sacked 15 times up to this point last year 16 times in 16 games protect the guy and he wil make them look good, stop all the mambo jumbo Pen who? you have the top qb off all time so what he is a gunslinger what did you expect? the team will start wining soon better than last year. Go jets..... Jets funs put this game to bed already! be happy with the W!"
Ray Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:12pm ET"I wanted to leave a comment before reading any posts in here because I know where they will be going and I want these to be my own thoughts. First the few positives. We won, yeah. Leon redeemed himself. Coles incredible one handed grab for the game winner. The run D continues to be a strong point. Jenkins continues to show he was probably the best, and most important FA pickup we had."
Upstate Mike Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:12pm ET"Ken, I'm right there with you on the play action. How many times was I yelling at the tv for a play action pass. As for Favre, what can you say? Throwing into double coverage is just stupid. Not something a great quarterback should be consistently doing. They lose to, or barely beat the worst teams in the league. Don't expect many more wins this year. Heres my vote for Ratliff next season"
supercooljetfan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:15pm ET"i was at the game today and i booed and wasnt just because of this game its all their years of underachieving . i watch this team and think i might not live long enough for a superbowl win and im only 23 "
Ray Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:19pm ET"Now the negs. as I saw them. What was that offensive game plan? 40 passes against the worst rush defense in the league, and it is not like they came mostly when we were behind, we threw all day. Favre's third straight poor start. How is every team we face able to get pressure on him? I think his shoulder is hurting worse than he's letting on. Again no pressure on the qb and so he kills us..."
Ray Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:29pm ET"with short passes. Not enough 3rd down stops. When did we sign Leon Lett to down punts for us? Nearly kicked the tv on that one! Last week we sell out on a punt and get fooled on a fake, this week we sell out on third down and they run a draw for 30yds. Why not play it safe and get the ball back? Can't see us going into Buff. and knocking them off. Hope I'm wrong."
Stunna Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:29pm ET"that is the ugliest win this year, 3 int 4 favre and the third 1 was really unnecessary 3rd n short and u throw the ball against the worst team against the run. wat do the coaches have to prove coz its like they making calls which r not necessary at all mangini n staff need to sort it out coz that was appauling, y r we the only team that cannot win comprehensively ?????"
sal Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:34pm ET"i dont know, one thing i do know favre is not calling the game, every analyist i listened to today have had issues w/ the game plan. Favre is a easy target for blame. Big Ben for Pitt threw 4 today"
Ray Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 7:58pm ET"Now that I've read most of the posts it reminded me of the play that bothered me almost as much as Cody "Leon Lett" Spencers gaffe. Third and about half a yard and we throw a bomb? That was the first time I actually had thoughts that we were going to lose to the Chiefs. Even though it didn't work I like that they had B Smith pass on the end around. Give the Bills something to think about."
Dan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:08pm ET"just preaching to the choir here: Get a coaching staff that has a clue. Mr Johnson, how long until you get a return on your investment? How long will you wait? We're a "game plan" team, right? Guess what? The game plan stinks!!!"
Alex Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:10pm ET"While i will gldly take the "w" you can't honestly say tha this win gives any confidence going into Buffalo. We play any other team in the league and they beat us. The play calling is hideouse. The defense looked confused. Special teams minu Leon Washinton was horrid. Nugent injured is probably better than a healthy Feeley."
CaneJet Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:13pm ET"I have to consider the Favre trade a blunder at this point."
Row Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:14pm ET"Schott needs to lose his job. Mangini needs to start calling the plays. All you guys that wanted to see Favre throw up 40 attempts a game got to see what I stated would happen before the trade. TJ deserves better, Leon played amazing. I can't believe we found a way to win this game.. How much longer is this madness going to last? "
Rod Hamilton Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:17pm ET"I love watching Favre the games are exciting and he never quits. Now I'm stuck with a puuck as a qb in Rodgers, I want my Favre back."
Ira Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:20pm ET"Leon won this game for the Jets today. 274 total yds. Please did anybody notice the Jets had no TE today. How in the world are they going to run the ball without a TE. Every tackle aligible play the Chiefs knew they would run. Not looking to make excuses but i am happy they won. But they have so many areas to improve on. Favre's INT's are getting out of control."
pranit Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:28pm ET"Randy, any chance mangenious gets fired this yr? ...how can Mr.Johnson see last week and today's game and be satisfied? ..look at other teams around the league, full of energy, playing for a reason..jets look like going through the motions..so many free agents, as if complacent to have made their $$, and now they can retire..and the jets are the place to retire...sigh !! ....HC fully responsible.."
jak jak,ex packer fan new jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:32pm ET"to sal ur right . been favre fan 4 14 yrs . but tday irked me. we have to run .were favre calling plays im sure he'd call more runs. [to bashers 6td cards game is soon forgotten ] they threw a screen tday . yay .like evry1 would like to see play action. we can beat bills. but pats r getting confidence with qb cassel. 1 week at a time . jets have tied there win total of last season . "
Don Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:32pm ET"We wasted a year on Favre. He will not be here after this year and I am tired of him killing us with INT's. Did anyone see what Chad did today? And don't give me any of the arm strength business. It's wonderful that Brett can show off his arm on a long throw and get intercepted. They didn't win because of him today - they won in spite of him. I hope it's one and done for him."
mike ex jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 8:35pm ET"I can't blame Favre.. This O-line can't protect a sandwich at a bulimia convention . With a bad shoulder arm what ever still had the guts to get us in scoring position 2 win the game... Even though he got hit everytime he dropped back .. Hope he lives 2 see seasons end .. What a shame .. & why run the ball against the worst D in the league .. That would make to much sence. Wouldn't it G_O J_E_T_S"
PoliticalPuck Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 9:47pm ET"Hey Jets Fans: You're 4-3 with Favre and last year you were 4-12 without him. I watched him for 16 years here in Wisconsin and yes, his decision-making is sometimes exasperating, but no NFL team won more games between Favre's first year in Green Bay (1992) and his last (2007). It's not a coincidence. When the game was on the line, Favre and the offense got six points. Winning is the only thing."
michael ex jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 9:48pm ET"Pranit .. Don't worry won't be long now .. When woody watched penny beat the bills today & Ne week 2 /.. Don't u think hes going to realize . I know he seeing vilma in NO .. Our old center in tennessee Guard in Washington I can go on & on .. So if we lose to buff next week .. Even he can't deny what the problem is ..Be4 mangini takes him to the poor house"
Howard Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 10:38pm ET"WHAT A WONDERFUL WIN TODAY 3 MORE PICKS no running game against the worst running d in the league and a look at mangini on the sidelines he looks lost,and confused,well next week in buf should be a lot of fun thank god on on vacation"
jak,ex packer fan new jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 10:46pm ET"to mike ex jet fan. funny comment about the oline.. but there trying . there not that bad . to rod hamilton . yeah you should quit being a gb fan and come over to the jets. rodgers isnt that bad. in a few years hell be better.but gb coach n management r fools. all you favre bashers,6 tds against cards. 4 wins .what was cp's win total last year.[not fair to compare sns,but give favre a break,]"
Drew Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 11:21pm ET"Relax Puck....this is New York, and Jet fans are complete over-reactors but your Golden Boy needed a remarkable return by Washington and a ridiculous catch from LC to save his horrible redzone mistakes again. Favre gets zero credit for today's win. When the game was on the line he could have iced the game with a 1st down instead he threw a pick 6. We like Favre we dont love him yet!"
Carol from Wisconsin Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 8:07am ET"OK - what's up with the quarterback protection, hmmm? It was not there and it should be. Needs work, boys. What an ugly win, but a win I suppose is a win, right? I agree with some of the other comments. Both sides of the ball need work. Period, end of story. PS - you will NEVER get Favre to NOT throw INTs. It's in his nature to send the ball flying and "up for grabs." Better get used to it."
jayndasun Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 9:36am ET"Randy Bad horrid o-line play..whats THEIR excuse? Its not like they were brought to the team in the middle of training camp. that was the ONE part of our team that was supposed to be better and it is-marginally. Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm one of the few Jets fans that said we didn't need #4.. but if we still had Chad. do you think the team is 4-3 at this point? Probably 5-2. too many turnovers"
jayndasun Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 9:42am ET"Also, if shot calls another middle screen with 3rd and 2 I don't know what I"m going to do!! I understand that the coaches were under pressure from last weeks loss to be more agressive but really they were agressive to a fault. We need to run more vs KC. Also NO MORE Saftey blitzes on PASSING DOWNS!!!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 10:22am ET"Hey newjetfan I was commenting on Tnjetfans premise that Mangini was like a wet blanket, I asked if he rather have Herm. Listen I'm at the games I feel its the fan's right to BOO , I also think its over used.That reply is for you."
Mike Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 10:59am ET" What is wrong with the Jets offensive coach? why would you call a pass play at the other teams 8 yard line on 3rd and 2? The Jets were up by 4, at worst they kick a field goal and go up by 7, Jones was running good. Instead a pass that turns into a TD for the other team and almost cost the game. Schottenheimer has to go!"
Kevin from Mahwah Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 12:32pm ET"I am done with dumping any more emotion and money into this team. They will never get it right. NEVER. They play like this against KC. They are a JOKE! * wins at most. That means we same draft picks instead of giving them to GB. Can not wait to screw them up too. Really I do not know what to say anymore because they will always be bad. Do the coaches look at this site? To see what we think of them"
OldRogue Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 2:10pm ET"Randy - Going waaay off topic here, but I can find no answer elsewhere. During the game, the announcers talked almost non-stop (which is what they're supposed to do, of course), but a couple of times, I could hear music coming from the stadium loudspeakers. I could swear they were playing "Carmina Burana" (So much for the Jets being blue collar!) Can you confirm this?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Brian Mulligan, the Jets' director of events and game operations, confirms that "Carmina Burana" was played at the Meadowlands on Sunday. Mulligan adds that Carmina Burana "is used in many stadiums during dramatic or potentially dramatic scenarios. I specifically called for it to be played twice coming out of timeouts during the last KC drive in the game." "
OldRogue Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 6:55pm ET"Damn, Randy! You are a class act. If the Jets GM slot opens up, I'm putting your name forward. However, I have one small niggle. Carmena Burana is not only darkly dramatic, but it is also heroic (think 300 Greeks against 1 Million Persians). The next time you call for it to be played, make sure it's on a Jets' drive, not the opponent's."
Randy Lange Said:
"What's wrong with a dramatic three-and-out, Rogue?"
John from Staten Island Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 9:37pm ET"Randy, I figured that Favre's ability would give Schottenheimer's offensive playbook and make Mangini's sometimes strange decisions more meaning and legitimacy. Instead we have a truly fantastic team, questionable coaching decisions, and more offensive penalties than I can remember. Question: What year did the Jets have the most offensive penalties, and how did the team, QB, and RB do?"
Randy Lange Said:
"John, that's an interesting point. If you don't mind, I'll develop that into a Radar segment for a little later this week. Early research: the last time the Jets produced as many offensive penalties for a season was 1999."
Andrew in Tucson Said:
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 11:36pm ET"We Play the raiders with one of the worst secondaries in the nfl and we run the ball. Then comes the cheifs the worst run defense in the nfl and we go pass happy. Leon up the gut for a touchdown should have given them a clue on how to finish the game off. At the end of the day it is a win and I'll take and I am shure the Jets will to."
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jak jak,ex packer new jet fan Said:
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 3:09pm ET"3rd and 1 ,and favre almost gets killed passing the ball against the worst run defense in the nfl. coach, run run run "
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