Coach's 'Mixed Emotions' on Leaving Hofstra
Published: Tue, August 26, 2008 - 11:55am ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Eric Mangini, Cody Spencer, Hofstra University, Brett Favre, Calvin Pace
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08/26 — Eric Mangini's news conference this morning began with him paying homage to Hofstra.
Today is the last day the Jets will practice and work at Weeb Ewbank Hall, the team's training complex on the Hofstra University campus for the last 40 years. On Wednesday the team will travel to its annual Kickoff Luncheon in New York. From there it's on to Philadelphia for Thursday night's final preseason game with the Eagles. And beginning next week, the team will have moved into its new digs at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Facility in Florham Park, N.J.
"I've had great experiences here," Mangini said of his seven summers and six full seasons at "the Weeb," the last three training camps as the Jets' head coach. "Bill [Parcells] and Bill [Belichick], Charlie Weis, Mo Carthon, Romeo [Crennel], Al Groh, Todd Haley — that's a really good group of guys who have gone on, and that experience is special to me.
"This is a special place. I've really enjoyed it. And I've enjoyed it not just from a business perspective or from the professional side but from the family side. My kids went to Hofstra Daycare. They have quality teachers there, just a great group of people."
Mangini also thanked the fans for attending camp practices during his tenure here and all the people he and his family have met while living on Long Island.
"I have mixed emotions," he said. "We're excited about going to the new facility — it's an incredible space — but it's hard to leave old friends as well."
Favre Likely to Sit vs. Eagles
But Mangini couldn't dwell long on his farewell because football matters continue to arise as the regular season rapidly approaches.
The coach didn't declare that QB Brett Favre will sit out the Eagles game but that's the direction he's headed.
"It would be safe to say that I'm leaning towards that," he said.
Favre has said he'd like to play in any and every game, including the fourth preseason game, but may have predicted his coach's decision when he said Monday: "I would assume he'll probably say no. If that's the case, then so be it. ... I don't know if three plays or six plays, although I'd like to do it, what you get out of that."
Mangini feels the work Favre will get in the practices from now through Friday before the trip south to play the Dolphins in the season opener is very valuable.
"He'd love to be able to get all the work, have a ton of OTAs, but that's not where we are right now," the coach said. "We're getting ready for Miami, and the more work he does with the guys in the group, the better. The last preseason game is for evaluating individuals as opposed to the team. It's really important in that perspective."
'Backer Sackers
Mangini had a few comments about his two leading sackers this preseason — backup LB Cody Spencer, who leads the way with three sacks, and Calvin Pace, who powered to two first-half sacks against the Giants.
"I'm really happy with Calvin," Mangini said. "I thought the play he made there to push that field goal back was big. You see his conversion from speed to power, how fluid he is in change of direction, the way he can drop into coverage — it's unique for an outside linebacker that big and tall. ... His approach is excellent."
And the most important thing with Spencer, the coach said, was how the player has created position flexibility in his third season with the team, expanding his role from special teams contributor to OLB to the sub and this season with some work on the inside.
"Cody's done a great job this preseason," Mangini said. "I thought he was making a lot of strides last year prior to suffering the injury he had. It's been more a function of he's just been diligent. He got a system that really worked well for him, he stayed with that system, built up his reps, built up his experience. He's got a lot of natural ability that you're seeing now."
Four Released
Mangini announced that four players — RB Musa Smith, DB Ron Girault, RB Rodney Kinlaw and OL Thaddeus Coleman — were released, bringing the Jets' roster down to the maximum limit of 75 players.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (37)Damone Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 12:21pm ET"I felt absolutely terrible when i had to move from Long Island and in many ways i still do.I miss Jones beach,Tanner Park,and going to the Jet practices."
BIG AL Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 12:22pm ET"i agree with managini and lets worry about the dolphins sept 7th opener brett needs the union between him and his offense to be solid and the more practice they have together the better let the rookies fight it out for the right to be on the teams last thing we need is some jacked up DE- LINEMEN hurting favre so let the 1st team gel lots a practice between now and then GO JETS PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR"
Ira Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 12:56pm ET"Randy, I know a lot of fans are not happy but Mr. Johnson did the right thing by not charging PSL's for the entire stadium. "
uncle joe Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 1:13pm ET"How could some of us from last Radar dislike Fireman Ed?Hes our Man.A dedicated fan dispite the situation,weather,team,coaching,ect.,there he is getting everybody into the game spearheading most of those chants that put the visiting team in awe.Our own NYC Fire Fighter is our Team Mascot,no stupid costum,just his regular street clothes,a New Yorker in the stands.Thats New York Baby!Thats New York!"
MikeMc Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 1:31pm ET"Ira, you were right on about Musa being a goner. "
joe b Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 1:48pm ET"RANDY.. with the new set-up for PSL & NON-PSL seniority. Does that mean a long time season ticket holder in the lower deck will get first shot at upper deck tickets over short time ticket holders who are now in the upper deck ?"
Randy Lange Said:
"joe b, I am not the expert on the seating and pricing plans. In our news release it states that the sale of seats will use a priority system based first on seniority, then on seat location. Details on the plans will be available on www.newjetsstadium.com as soon as they're finalized."
Drew Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 2:41pm ET"I know Woody gets a bad rap from fans but he did a decent job with the PSL deal. It could have been much worse......"
Drew Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 2:49pm ET"I seemed to have touched a nerve with my post regarding Firemen Ed. Again I am a NY kid, born and raised and have a family full of firefighters. I am just not a fan of his. I know he gets the crowd fired up and has become this nationwide hero. If the Jets were 11-5 last year nobody would have missed him. "
Ira Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 3:36pm ET"MikeMc, I was disapointed with Musa. He looked good the 1st week and then it was downhill ever since. I hate to say this but Chatham is on the bubble too. I think they will keep Spencer and Murrell or Cummings and let Chatham go. Look for a trade for a veteran OT in the next few days.It is so critical that they get one. Bender and Hunter are not the answer."
Joe B Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 3:46pm ET"Randy, I just read the seating policy for the new stadium and one thing was unclear to me. Am I correct is stating that fans in the lower (PSL) sections with seniority will have priority over those fans in the upper deck?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Joe B, I don't have all the answers for you and wouldn't want to mislead you. Check www.newjetsstadium.com, which is where all the details on seating and pricing can be found as they are finalized."
Rande Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 3:57pm ET"I don't agree that Woody did a good job with the PSLS. Zero for the first row in the upper bowl on the 50 yard line and at least $4000 for my end zone lower bowl. I'd gladly switch seats"
Ira Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 4:20pm ET"The eagle game is a big game for Caulcrick. I think he could make the team if they want to keep 5 RB's. Randy, In 03 didn't J. Reese have a very good game down in Philly to wrap up the preseason then get cut. He ran for about 120 yds or so?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, Johnathan Reece rushed 20 times for a game-high 64 yards in the Jets' 17-9 win at Philadelphia to end the 2003 preseason."
Row Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 4:22pm ET"Since I am "out there" with my posts lately. I encourage fans to look at our website for preseason stats. PF: Jets 41 Opponents 58 We are dead last in the NFL for rushing yards in the preseason with an AVERAGE of 62 yards. PITIFUL! Tell me we don't need a WR, tell me our Coordinator(s) aren't underachieving! I just want guys to play to their ability. Coles has a streak of 7 straight sit outs."
Drew Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 4:27pm ET"I agree that Chatham might be done. I'm all for experience but Spencer, Murrell and Cummings all played better than he did this preseason. I also was suprised how badly M Smith ran the ball. Who's our 3rd RB? Ira, cant agree more on a veteren OT. Our depth on the OL is horrible right now. We need a versitle guy to spell our veterans."
Louis Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 4:28pm ET"Randy, tell us how much farther from the field, the upper deck is at the new stadium, as compared to the old (and still good) stadium. From your statement "Fans embraced the old Meadowlands layout, so we've replicated that comfortable bowl feeling, only we've made it better." Better would seem to mean closer, but the diagram shows the upper deck much farther from the field. What's the story? DECLINED: NO WAY TO QUANTITATIVELY ANSWER THIS GUY THAT WILL SATISFY HIM, "
Chris Regalado Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 4:41pm ET"Randy, Hey my name is Chris and I'm writing from a hotel in Miami Beach and I wanted to see if you can help me out with something. Our hotel is going to be hosting a Madden tournament for our guests (jets fans) that stay in our hotel the saturday before the jets, fins game on sunday and wanted to see if you can help me spread the word. Let me know if you can help. Thanks."
Randy Lange Said:
"Chris, your comment above is one way to start spreading the word."
Doc Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 5:23pm ET"Hey Jets Fans....Looking for BRETT FAVRE Jerseys! We have them NOW at www.urbandigz.net Choose Home or Away Jersey. HURRY limited Supply. DECLINED: WANTS A FREE AD"
Scooter Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 7:04pm ET"1) Ed didn't originate J-E-T-S chant. A guy at Shea started it all in 1979 or 1980. Not all fans like Ed because Ed is all about Ed (getting his mug on TV and "working" for Jets) 2) PSL's could have been worse, but a $20-$45 jump in price makes up for lost PSL revenue, but at least I don't have to make a 1 time "investment" 3) I hope I get good seat in new digs, but it's still dicey w/movement."
Ira Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 9:26pm ET"Drew. J.Chatman will be the #3 RB. Eric usually keeps 8 LB's.Barton,Harris,Pace,Thomas, Gholston,Bowens, Spencer and it will be either Murrell or Cummings. The one that doesn't make it will go to the PS. I think he picks Cummings because he is an ILB were they need to replace Kassell. I am hoping he keeps 9. I don't want Murrell signed off of the PS by another team."
Drew Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 11:20pm ET"For all of the Drew bashers who disliked my opinion of Fireman Ed ........please read Scooters post. Well said, Scooter"
Pete Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 12:45am ET"I can't believe everyone is killing Gholston already. We don't even have a roster spot for him at OLB, BT and Pace have them locked down with big money. All he needs to do is rush the passer on 3rd down and he is a good pick. Nickel package with BT and Gholston at DE, Ellis and Jenkins at T, Pace and Harris at LB. Understand what Mangini was looking for before you label him a bust. It's preseason!"
Pete Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 12:49am ET"I'm with you on Gholston Drew, but I love Fireman Ed. Our JETS chant has always been special and opposing players hate it. I remember many years ago when management offered him special seats and he declined to remain with his fan base up top. He brings something unique to the stadium. Less concerned about run O than run D. We have Favre now, different game. Run D did look much improved."
JetsWin1 Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 2:59am ET"I've made at least 20 anti-PSL posts over the past few months and the PSL topic has been the only subject of my posts. While I still hate the concept of PSL's (they're a fact of life everywhere except in the mind of Bob Kraft), the Jets surprised and impressed me with their decision to make the entire Upper Tier a no-PSL zone. They'll make it up in other ways but PSL's are the poison pill to fans"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 6:29am ET"Who got cut,don't we have to make cuts by 4 PM Tuesday?Who got cut? I wonder if we didn't get Brett Farve,how this Ratliff situation would have played out?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Four players were released, uncle joe: RBs Musa Smith and Rodney Kinlaw, DB Ron Girault and OL Thaddeus Coleman."
Ira Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 8:09am ET"Raymond will make the PS squad over Ball. More upside with raymond plus he can return kicks."
Jesterbeast Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 8:26am ET"Hi Randy, the posts are fantastic. I know the Jets are extremely deep at RB, but would you consider the Musa Smith cut a little bit of a surprise...especially this early?"
Eric NM Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 8:36am ET"Regarding fireman Ed, I personally prefer his sidekick "Klecko" and look forward to his return and his humbleness in putting Ed on his shoulders and not looking for the spotlight. Favre should play at least a quarter. If he does not, that's another bad call by Mangini---how's Favre to be effective in a full reg. season game without gaining additional conditioning?"
Howard Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 9:16am ET"cant wait for this eagles game to end so we can get to the reg. season.as for personal msmith looked slow,i thought he might get cut.and i believe chapman makes the team and murrel makes the team with cummings going to the ps,just have to see about the tes im liking 82 now also,if he can play in the backfield as a fb ju goes to the ps also"
Drew Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 9:50am ET"Favre should not play tomorrow at all. If he were to play and get injured every Jet fan (even the ones who want him to play) would be killing Mangini. There are times you take chances and this is not one of them."
Ira Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 10:40am ET"Drew, st off its going to rain and the filed will be wet. and why risk 10 other starters on offense just to get favre some snaps. It really makes no sense even though he needs the work. He will get more accomplished in practice getting ready for the Fish then playing 10 plays tomorrow in the rain. Prediction if the weater report is correct could be less then 10,000 down in Philly."
Ira Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 10:42am ET"So if i am right about the attendance lets see what Pete King has to say about that. maybe there will be more Jets fans then Eagle fans in the house."
uncle joe Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 1:44pm ET"LB Chatman is a gonner.If we let Cummings or Murrel or that DE Brown go NE will scoop them up along with our Game Plan.Plus they are all good!I dont want to loose any of our young guys because of Bubba Franks,he must go.We got him for leverage now we have Keller and Baker is quiet,give Baker Franks' money and walk away.Posiack is pretty good and he blocks the best out of all of them."
MikeMc Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 5:05pm ET"Sorry ROW, your one of my favorite posters, your not really out there but consider it is only preseason& you need not hit the panic button. Ira heard you with Sommers on the PSL, I've had my tickets in the upper deck for 13 yrs, after 8 yrs on the waiting list, they are good seats & I would rather have pd.$1000. to keep them, now I'm going to get bumped by some guy in the lower level,not cool."
steven Said:
Wed, August 27, 2008 - 8:32pm ET"So long to the Jets. It's official. Always thought they would come back to Long Island. It doesn't mean I stop routing for my team, but it's a little sad to see the team leave."
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Ira Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 12:11pm ET"Randy, All good things most come to an end but better things could be down the road. Good Luck in Florham Park. About Favre playing vs the eagles at 1st i thought it was a must. But do you want to risk 10 other starters besides Favre? i don't think so. Let them all rest. Especially with no OL depth right now. Can't take that chance to get a few snaps and lose one of the OL starters."
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