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08/17 — One more neat note on "The Other Brett." Brett Ratliff leads the NFL in passing yards.
Yeah, I know. There are three games to go tonight and Monday night, and leading the league in preseason passing yards plus, I'm guessing, $50,000 might get you an NFL MVP award on ebay.
"I like his progress," head coach Eric Mangini said after Saturday's 13-10 loss to the Redskins. "There were a couple of plays early that he had that he didn’t make the decisions that I was looking for, but he was able to come back, regroup and move the ball down the field in a pressure situation. There was 1:09 left, we had the three timeouts, but to get us where he got us and give us a shot to win the game with throws in the end zone, that’s really positive."
Another who is pleased with Ratty's emergence is rookie WR Marcus Henry, and not just because he made his first four pro catches, all on Ratliff passes, for 42 yards and two third-down conversions, all in the game's last 10 minutes.
"I'm usually going with Brett a lot in practice," said Henry. "What I saw from him tonight was more of the same, but I can see him improving. In practice, too, he's improving a lot."
Ratliff even showed a little veteran moxie when I caught up with him outside the Jets locker room. I asked him about the last pass he threw that rookie WR Paul Raymond dropped in the end zone.
"I really didn't see it. I threw it and I got knocked down," he said. "When I was on the ground I heard the crowd go 'yay-boo,' so I knew we didn't score. But if I had another chance, I'd give it to him again."
Here are the top five NFL quarterbacks in preseason yardage. All of them have already played in their games this weekend (rookies and first-year players in CAPS):
| QB, Team | Att-Cmp-Pct-TD-I | Yards |
| BRETT RATLIFF, NYJ | 39-27-69.2-2-0 | 400 |
| Quinn Gray, IND | 53-29-54.7-1-2 | 367 |
| Tyler Thigpen, KC | 43-24-55.8-2-2 | 287 |
| Jared Lorenzen, IND | 54-28-51.9-2-2 | 262 |
| COLT BRENNAN, WAS | 23-17-73.9-3-0 | 239 |
Some Clemens and Nugent Support
I'm going to sound like an apologist and the two players probably don't need me to stump for them, but I feel QB Kellen Clemens and K Mike Nugent, despite Saturday night struggles, will be OK.
Clemens, who came in to run the Jets offense behind Brett Favre, completed five of 12 passes for 63 yards and twice stumbled dropping back from center. But Coach Mangini still stepped up for his No. 2 QB in advance of watching the game video.
One mitigating circumstance were dropped passes.
"Three drops would've been first downs," Mangini said. "We didn't have a very good third-down conversion rate offensively. We were 5-for-15. We could have easily had eight or nine third-down conversions had we held on to the ball."
Then for the center stumbles, anytime that happens you always need to check on what the center is doing as well as the QB.
"If the center steps on his foot twice, it’s not going to look very good," Mangini said. "I’ll have to look at the decision-making, where he went with the ball, things like that. It’s just a pretty unique set of circumstances there. It makes it harder to evaluate that part."
As for Nugent, the coach made it clear that Nugent's game-tying 23-yard field goal try that was emphatically rejected by the left upright was a "chip shot" and a "gimme" and that "those you have to make."
I didn't catch up with Nugent afterward but if I had, I'm sure he would've said the same thing. That won't atone for the miss, but Nugent is a hard worker and self-analyzer and he'll get it fixed. As ST coordinator Kevin O'Dea said when we were collecting quotes from the assistant coaches for this year's Jets Preview Book:
"Mike has a real strong leg, he's got really good mental toughness, his work ethic is outstanding and he's really easy to coach. He wants to be a Pro Bowl kicker, he has the drive, and that's half the battle to get to be No. 1 in your profession."
Before you pass final judgment on Nugent, wait for the next few preseason games and keep this fact in mind: Since the 2006 season opener at Tennessee, Nuge has gone 17-for-18 on fourth-quarter and overtime FG tries, which includes two last-minute game-tying kicks and three game-winners. And his only miss was in the somewhat inclement conditions at New England last year.
Schedule Changes
The original schedule called for a single training camp practice Monday afternoon, but Mangini canceled that, so the final two open practices of camp will take place Tuesday and Wednesday, both with 1:30 p.m. starts.
Even without practice Monday, Jets Shop and Jets Fest will both be open behind the Jets' Hofstra University practice fields from noon-3 p.m.
1050 ESPN New York will not broadcast the Michael Kay Show from Hofstra on Monday as planned but could come out later in the week.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (63)Drew Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 6:44pm ET"I still have confidence in Nugent. Randy's stats tell the true story. I will admit I do get nervous when he lines up though...... Clemens played okay. The B Franks drop was a great read and throw for a first down. Is it me or does KC just look very small in the pocket? I know he's listed at "6'2" but he looks tiny when he drops back. I think I have caught the Ratliff bug. He played well...again!"
Wayne Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 6:44pm ET"Ratliff looks like he should be our #2 QB. He's had a better camp & looked much better in games.He has all the qualities of pro QB-strong arm, better leader, poise, pocket presence & gives us the best chance to win as Mangini say's. Don't give up on Klemens,but he should be made #3. We should sign J Feely who was great w/ Phins. At least there would be competition to push Feely. "
kimosabe Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:00pm ET"RL..Ratty stayed cool and calm under pressure...we could have a diamond in the rough with him.!! Any word on Clowney's condition??"
Randy Lange Said:
"Nothing today, kimosabe."
Howard Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:12pm ET"kc would have had much better stats if the recievers held on to the ball,he may have even been able to put points on the board.other then the 2 stumbles and some batted down passes i felt kc played well.nuge better get his act together or find a new team. making kicks from 48 yds in are important,and 23 yds give me a break inexcusable"
Ira Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:23pm ET"Randy, Whats is Ratliff's QB rating for the preseason so far?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, Brett Ratliff's passer rating for his two preseason appearances is 119.6."
Viveca Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:33pm ET"I agree with Drew, Clemens look small in the pocket. For some strange reason he is listed as 6'2" in the Jet paper even though he himself has said that he is below 6'1". I feel for the guy, recievers kept dropping his passes, O-linesmen stepped on his feet...He is a good qb, just not as good as Ratliff."
Kevin Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:41pm ET"Ratcliff needs to be the #2 clemens doesnt have it he didnt have it last year and he def wont have it this year if farve goes down"
sharif Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 7:55pm ET"randy...does this mean ainge is goindg to b our practice squad qb??....i notice he gets no reps or snaps in the game...and our ratty is the future..6'4 with a strong arm and moxie...i really like what i see....2 bad for clowney hopefully he will make it back in time to b effective...one more thing..i watched the game again today and notice b thomas was wrecking havoc backthere..."
marvin Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 8:14pm ET"I think Ratliff is the No 2 QB at this point. He made really difficult throws and should have won the game if the guy didn't drop the pass at the endzone. Clemens is very erratic and quite small that's why his passes get batted down at the line of scrimmage.I think he's more like 6'0 rather than 6'2. Plus he didn't really show us anything when he started in place of Chad last year."
Marvin Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 8:18pm ET"Is it just me or does anybody here think that our defense still can't stop the running game? Plus Gholston looks lost most of the time in the linebacker position."
Frank Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 8:23pm ET"Missed the game was flying back to Texas with my family. From what I'm reading and hearing on the tube Favre did well and may save the season for us as long as he stays healthy. We still can't run the ball and definitely can't stop the run 2 areas I heavily criticized last week. Tangini better find a way to fix this or we will be in for a long season. At least we can throw the ball and pass block"
CEDRIC Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 8:59pm ET"I would like to see Ratliff i a real game, 6'4 224, nice arm, learning under Favre, He has the makings of a descent replacement, lets see what time does for him. Nugent....., tired of preseason, give Farve some more Reps n lets start the season. Week one is gonna be crazy."
Kelley Freeman Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 9:38pm ET"I am a brand new Jets fan and I am very happy to be here. I have been a Packer fan for 14 years (and always will be). I beacame a Packer fan because of Brett Favre and will be devoted to any team he plays for. I'm still shocked at Greenbays actions, they have made a huge mistake. G.B s loss is N.Y s gain. Brett IS MAGIC.......get ready!!!!"
Jake Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 10:03pm ET"Another former jets 4th string qb is doing well Randy Kevin Eakin is the starting qb in the Arena Cup IN AF2(that is the af2 version of the superbowl)"
Drew Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 10:13pm ET"This O-line can run block. The first team O-line didnt get a chance to run the ball alot. A bunch of passing attempts called to get Favre going early. Loved the 4th down running call to TJ. This what this team needs. An attitude on the goaline and short yardage. T Rich was killing people also......The run D has got to get better. We gave up a ton of yards after first contact. Pass rush was better."
Jason Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 10:19pm ET"Man I really feel for Clemens. I was at the game and after he had 2 deflected passes at the line of scrimmage and two trips the crowd was totally destroying him. Some fans behind me were sarcastically yelling "Hey! Don't yell at Clemens! He's the 'future of our franchise' followed by some not to plesent words. All I can say is I have complete faith in you Clemens! Don't Give Up!"
Randy Lange Said:
"Tom, the Jets will be in the Atlantic Health Training Facility in Florham Park, N.J., beginning Sept. 2."
Fran'scan Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 3:46am ET"Randy, Agree and Disagree with your comments. On Clemens, QB cant be responsible for dropped balls. Ratliff is closing the gap after only 1 year and Kellen should hear footsteps. As for Nugent, lets not forget he missed 2 FG on Saturday, I dont know what kind of cash Feely is looking for but he is a great kicker, was very good when he played for NYG and knows our stadium. Should be a no brainer."
Harry Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 3:48am ET"First off, I have been a fan since the days of Broadway Joe. Through the ups and downs. Favre DID look good. However, he, if memory serves, didn't change plays at the line. When this happens Callahan will go off as he doesn't like folks straying from "HIS" game plan. I am not looking forward to watching Callahan destroy the Jets like he did to both the Raiders AND the Cornhuskers."
Row Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 5:25am ET"I really want to point out that Clemens didn't singlehandedly lose any games for us last year. I am sure a lot of people out there felt the play calling was suspect. I hope Favre brings back the fire we had in '06. No cheeseheads at the Meadowlands! I was impressed with Favre, he went to the #2 or #3 look, which you didn't see with Chad. If 38yr old Favre plays, 30 year old Coles can! Go Jets!"
michael perosi Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 6:15am ET"is Thomas Jones hurting?...he doesnt seem to be getting too many carries...will he be in "game shape" by opening day?....and what is wrong with our run defense?..looks just as bad as last season, if ya ask me.."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 6:53am ET"Did anybody notice Faneca level somebody on that TD pass?I not sure who it was but he leveled someone,it was awesome.Clemens is our # 2 because of experience and he did have a nice game,but he looks scared instead of taking the chalenge head on(not a good QB trate).Nugent should be fired this morning,anybody could replace him.Gholston will rival Blair Thomas (I really didnt wanna be right)."
Ira Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:01am ET"Looking forward to the Giants game this week. It should be interesting to see how they look playing atleast a half with the starters. To all Jets fans that attend the games Randy and Eric Allen's Playbook that they hand out on the way in into the game i find very informative and love the depth chart that shows the matchups.Its like getting a free program. Check them out at the next game. "
Randy Lange Said:
"Thanks, Ira. EA and I agree with your analysis."
Chris Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:23am ET"You got to remember most of the defensive starters are not out on the field that long. So teams are getting run yards on the second and third string. The more the starters get to play together the better they will be. I just hope it does not take the Jets half the season as usual for their defense to step up. "
Jesse Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:45am ET"I got to agree with Marvin on this one! Our run defense isn't looking to good, but they didn't give up a whole lot of points so that's a plus! Ghoulston gotta get use to standing up and getting into the NFL speed. He got the talent he just needs to get that mindset!"
scott Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 7:58am ET"i am sorry but clemens need to sit down and make room for Ratliff this kids looks better the clemens did at all last year people got to remeber clemens had his chance last year, but hee mad no improvement at all go jets "
Dunnie Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:02am ET"Row - Clemens didn't singlehandedly WIN any games for us last year either ... At some point if the drops continue only for Clemens ... you have to think that his balls simply are not as catchable as Ratliff's. But we have only had two pre-season games ... plenty of time for Clemens to turn it around."
CEDRIC Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:19am ET"Frank, your analysis was correct, i believe it was a function bad playcalling not the personnel, they didnt miss tackles, they were in the te position to make them. the 1st team offense didnt call many run plays, i guess they have to get in a rhythm, sometimes the pass can free up the running game."
Ira Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 9:15am ET"Surprised that there aren'y many comments about Henry's play this week. Never really saw him do much in camp but he really opened my eyes vs the Skins. Very tuff over the middle and is a big target with those long arms. Three of his four catches went for 1st downs. want to see more of Henry and Stuckey since Clowney will be out for awhile.. GO JETS!!!!"
Drew Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 9:46am ET"Fanaca crushed J Talyor on Favre TD pass Uncle Joe. It was a thing of beauty. He looked inside to see if Mangold needed help and then turned and destroyed Taylor. I stated this earlier but this guy is an animal. Frank, we will be able to run the ball this year. Just by adding Favre to the mix help the running game. Not to mention the left side with be awesome with Fanaca and a much better Brick"
uncle joe Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 10:12am ET"Yeh,4th round gold again!Lowery looks like a keeper.Maybe we should trade our 1st every year for as many 4s as possible.If Farve takes us to the Supe and happy giving a 1 than if he bombs and we loose our 4.Gholston doesnt even look like hes trying.Cummings on the other hand looks like a MAN playing for his job.Murrell also looks good.Chattam is agoner.Musa Smith looks good but Chattman is better!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 10:21am ET"FRANK you crack me up!! You admit you didn't see the game but you still criticize the line play. I thought the O-line (starters)was very good vs. a stout,. Wash.front, T.Jones picked up 4yds on a 4th & 1with a crowded box,& our D-line not only did a good job vs the run, it created alot of interior pressure to the pocket, Cambell was not comfortable. Betts & 2 QB's were knocked out of the game."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 10:24am ET"Clippings Please Randy,I need my fix of clippings PLEASE!"
Randy Lange Said:
"Sorry, uncle joe. Today's clips are in the process of going up."
MikeMc Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 10:32am ET"ROW I agree the meadowland cheesehead hats have got to go.Cedric did you & Frank have an off-web pow-wow, all of a sudden you guys are thinking alike, I miss the ugliness.DREW, good eyes T.Rich was excellent, a couple of pancakes, this will really help the run, Clemmens isn't small but when passes are being batted down he appears small. I also still have faith in Nugent, get the bad ones out now."
Rich Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 10:55am ET"Ratliff looks like an NFL quarterback out there and at this point Clemens doesn't. Ratliff moves the team and has a presence. He looks cool under pressure. Clemens seems rattled and unless in the hurry up offense never moves the team up field. From what I've seen so far Ratty should be No. 2 no question."
MigJet fan Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 11:39am ET"Brett looks like he'll do pretty well with the J E T S! I hope so! Lets hope TJones scores more and runs better than last year...He what about Eric Ainge Im hardly seeing this guy take any snaps. Danny would be mad. Yea he's just a rookie but its in his blood to be a pro..."
Drew Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 11:49am ET"Ira... I gave your boy Henry kudos on the previous post. He looked good catching the ball in traffic. He has no shot of making this team right now. He is a def PS player.....Frank, I know you read the clippings and saw the stats but MikeMc makes a great point. You even know how to criticize while your flying and didnt see the game?? A ton of passes were called while the 1st O-line was in the game."
CEDRIC Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 11:50am ET"MikeMc, Frank & I have to agree on something, afterall we're both Jet Fans, i think the Oline did a great job, the one sack was a miscommunication of a screen pass. I still think the Dline is good, i just have a problem with playcalling, they need to pressure the QB more. "
Drew Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 11:53am ET"What I did notice is how thin we are at O-line. If anyone goes down we are in major trouble. The 2nd team O-line looked awful. The D-line did play okay. We actually have a lot of depth on the front 7. Mosely, Puoha, Jenkins, Cummings, and Barton played really well. By the way my boy Lowery will start week one vs the Phins....maybe the Phins can pick up Barret after we cut him. He is horrible!!!!"
BIG AL Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 12:07pm ET"i am a bit concerned with gholsten myself now i know he missed some time because of his school schedule but come on he looks lost , not the beast animal or whatever you want to label him but more like a colledge freshman this guy should be crushing players with his size and strength lets see if week 3 turns him around otherwise this could be a 1st round bust. hope io am dead wrong go JETS"
BIG AL Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 12:11pm ET"WHAT IS WITH THE CHEESE HEADS THAT HAS GOT TO GO LOOKED STUPID IN GREEN BAY WILL LOOK STUPID IN NEWYORK COME ON GRAB YOUR ***** AND LEAVE THE FARVE GARB IN GREEN BAY HE IS A JET FOR CRYING OUT LOUD GANG GREEN NOT SWISS CHEESE PLEASE GIVE IT UP"
Ira Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 12:48pm ET"Drew, I have to disagree with you about Henry. Up until the Skins game i would've agrred with you but now with Clowney getting hurt it opens up a slot for him if he shows he can play special teams also."
Lou Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 12:49pm ET"Nugent was drafted #2 bc of Edwards' blame game: one year, his off. coord., next year, def coord., next year, his kicker. Kickers s/b FAs. But, I'm glad he missed the FG. Why kick a FG to send a preseason game into OT? We need to practice TDs. As for Gholston, this 3-4 should allow him to attack. The Jets teach: engage an OL, read/react stuff. It does not work. Penetrating the backfield does."
10 Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 12:54pm ET"Randy, can you confirm that Wednesday is the day that camp breaks? Nothing on Thursday? "
Randy Lange Said:
"10, I can confirm that Wednesday is the last practice of training camp (1:30 p.m. start). Beginning Thursday, practices are closed to the public."
Ken Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 1:07pm ET"RATLIFF by far is the better QB than Clemens. Kelly looks like the pressure is getting to him. RATLIFF has a better pocket feel than Clemens. Even thought Clemens had a few of his balls dropped. You can CLEARLY see RATLIFF has a BETTER command & feel for the QB position. And RATLIFF should be the # 2 QB. If ERIC puts KELLY as the #2 QB, that tells me the JETS don't want their pick to look bad."
ddh Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 1:26pm ET"last year wasnt Chads or Kellens fault, quit judging Kellen cause he couldnt do the impossible. Brett Ratliff is looking very impressive, but do we really need another qb controversy, Im just thrilled we have solid qb depth for once, I cant remember ever having this much talent at the qb position."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 1:27pm ET"Thanks Randy,Just read evrything.Clowny's injury hurts although we'll get a look at Henry.Barton looks like hes out to make a statement!Could Lowery start game one?He reminds me of a Ty Law(when he was young and thin)type player always in the right place.Keller looks like a GENIUS move.Love his humbleness of bringing Farve the ball and his love and excitement for the game."
Ira Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 1:47pm ET"Drew, I didn't notice him on ST's vs the Skins but i have run through the game and check it out. I would say that if he does make the team he would be perfect to play the front line for when teams try an onnside kick. He seems to have great hands and can get up high to get the ball. Also he is perfect for Schotty's corner fade plays. Wish Clowney didn't get hurt but thats part of the game. "
John Kozlich Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"Jets can do a lot of damage, its up to the players now, "
Christopher Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 2:14pm ET"I have to say receivers seem to be dropping alot od Clemens passes. It makes me think they just are not that catchable. Ratliff has been really impressive, gives me hope for the future. Still concerned with the D, but at least our bye week is early this year. We seem to improve dramtically after the bye. GoJets!!!"
Drew Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 2:50pm ET"Ira, I was hoping that fade route went out the door with Pennington. I know it worked from time to time but I hate that call near the goalline.... Just another reminder to the Ratliff fan club. Clemens played awesome "LAST PRE-SEASON" and everyone saw how much that matter when he played the final reg season games. I am on board with Ratliff but we want him running the show if #4 goes down? Not yet"
robox Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 2:52pm ET"Hey Randy when are the roster cuts coming? who do you think should be thinking about a career change?"
Randy Lange Said:
"robox, the roster cutdown to 75 players is Aug. 26 and the final cut to 53 are due by Aug. 30."
TAYF Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 4:05pm ET"Looking at other quarterbacks through out the league, such as Brady, Romo, Favre, and Derek Anderson, who were all late round draft picks or undrafted free agents. Then look at Ratliff, someone we can deff get exited about."
Christopher Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 5:40pm ET"Drew, if #4 goes down so does our season. In that case I would much rather see what Ratliff can do, we have all seen what Clemens can do (even if it was behind that horrible o-line from last year). I'm just not that excited about Clemens, hopefully I'm wrong, but I still haven't seem much from him (and he played with the first unit in Cleveland and didn't look good). "
Jet Fan in Saskatchewan Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 6:56pm ET"After seeing performance put on by Clemens it is apparent that Mangini's judgement & assessment of talent are suspect - to think Chad was competing with #11 for the starting job! Ridiculous! #11 couldn't even manage to get out from under centre without tripping over his own feet - last year when receivers dropped passes Chad got the blame. Jets should have passed on Favre, kept Chad & #5 & cut #11"
Brandon D. Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 8:04pm ET"It took a whole year of defending Chad Pennington and dogging Kellen for many Jet fans to see Clemens for what he really is; a sub par starter who if Brett Favre goes down will certainly keep the Jets out of the playoffs. Yes, Kellen has a great arm and I believe he has potential, but it seems he needs to hit the playbook a little harder if he wants to succeed."
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, August 18, 2008 - 9:54pm ET"Jet Fan in Saskatchewan, no Chad got the blame when he had 3 ints in games that were brought back to the house and made us lose the games vs giants vs bengals vs bills Favre is 10 times better than Chad"
Critchy3 Said:
Tue, August 19, 2008 - 1:48am ET"We made a number of key additions to the team. The one key move we didnt make was firing Bob Sutton as our DC! We have good players but our schemes are garbage! Even if Favre turns out to be a miracle worker, our defense under Sutton will be our downfall!!! "
Row Said:
Tue, August 19, 2008 - 4:33pm ET"I agree with almost everyone on Gholston, he really needs to play football. Sutten needs to let him loose. I want to see him play the whole 60 minutes! Zach Thomas was smashing heads for Dallas, after sitting almost a whole year and he's got 10+ on Gholston. You can't tell me it's not in him. I really like Bowens' play, he's a monster. Where is Coles?"
JP Said:
Tue, August 19, 2008 - 6:15pm ET"Happy with what I am seeing so far. Favre looked great in his opening drives. Raitliff is really showing a claim for the 2nd spot but I agree Clemens needs to play with the starters to see where he fits in (same thing with Raitliff). Also, happy with the receiving core - a lot of young talent. As for D - looks like it is starting to gel - I want to see more Gholston, but love Lowery! Go JETS!"
Jet Fan in Saskatchewan Said:
Wed, August 20, 2008 - 4:31pm ET"Last year Jets lost their threat of Miller as a returner, O line was horrible, field position generally bad, no running game - Chad was often starting deep in own territory - lousy play calling (& a lousy #81 as a receiver) interceptions were bound to happen-Favre has most interceptions so hope you don't mind them - lot of circumstances combined to make Chad look bad-what's the plan for future?"
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Ira Said:
Sun, August 17, 2008 - 6:28pm ET"Randy, I agree with you about both QB's. Kellen needs to work with the 1st team o-line this week along as does Ratliff. Nugent has struggle in season openers in the past so maybe he got it out of the way last night. Just trying to look at the glass half full. GO JETS!!!!"
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