10,000 (Brett) Maniacs Show Up for Practice
Published: Sat, August 9, 2008 - 1:50pm ET
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Eric Mangini, David Bowens, Brad Kassell, Rodney Harrison, Brett Favre, A.J. Schable
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08/09 — The Jet and Brett fans were coming over the hills this afternoon — a crowd estimated at a Jets training camp-record 10,500 for today's single camp practice.
And for Jets head coach Eric Mangini, It was a midday news conference just like every other one he's had this summer ... not!
This was the news conference before the first practice for new Jets QB Brett Favre. The media room at Weeb Ewbank Hall was packed (pun intended?) with national reporters augmenting the Jets beatwriters.
And the questions were generally all Favre all the time.
"I guess the word's out how much better my press conferences are," Mangini said with a smile.
One message that came through loud and clear was that the coach and his staff do not anticipate a problem with Favre assimilating much of the offensive system in the next the next four weeks before making his starting debut as the Jets QB at Miami on Sept. 7.
"I think it's very realistic," Mangini said. "We'll cater the program and the learning, and he's been working incredibly hard. He, [QBs coach] Brian Daboll and [coordinator] Brian Schottenheimer have already spent a lot of time together. We'll take it in chunks.
"You don't ever use all the stuff from training camp in any given game anyway. You may use 10 to 15 percent of the playbook, and during the week you're focused on that 10-15 percent. I think it's very realistic."
As for the "gunslinger" and "instinctive" tags that Favre comes with from his 16 seasons of slinging the rock around Green Bay's frozen tundra, Mangini said that won't be an issue here and leaned back on a certain legendary safety's arrive in Foxboro, Mass., a few years back to illustrate his point.
"I think the key thing is for us to be able to operate successfully," Mangini said. "Brett does some things on instinct, some things that, as a coach, you don't want to coach him out of a good play, you don't want to outcoach a guy's instincts. Rodney Harrison, when he first got to New England, we had a play drawn up one way and he ran the play completely different. We said, 'Why'd you do that? We didn't have it drawn up that way.' And he said, 'I just knew.' "
And with his instincts and talents, Favre will obviously bring a new personality to the Jets' offense.
"I think he has a very strong arm, a very live arm," Mangini said. "He can make all the throws, he can make some things happen that may not have been possible, so that opens u p some things offensively and it adds some additional pressure to the defense. You're always trying offensively to force the defense to cover the whole field, both horizontally and vertically. He adds both those elements."
On Chad Heading South
As for Chad Pennington's reported signing with the Miami Dolphins — setting up a suddenly hot-hot-hot season opener with Favre and the Jets — the coach acknowledged that Pennington will bring a lot of knowledge of the Jets' operations to the Aqua & Coral.
"Chad's definitely got some insight into the things we do," the coach said. "But we're a very game-plan-specific team. ... Players go to different places all the time. That's definitely an element you've got to be more conscious of — code words, things like that. Victor Hobson's at New England, he knows certain things about us.
"When we get players from conference opponents, we try to gather information. It's not abnormal to do that. But you still have to be able to recognize that and adjust to it."
Final note on the pre-Favre-debut newser: One talking head asked the coach about Favre's arrival time and breakfast selection.
"I can see how these press conferences are going to go for the next month," Mangini said.
No. 4 Makes His Entrance
Just a short while ago, Favre left the Jets' locker room at 1:20 p.m. — 10 minutes ahead of the stretching period that starts each practice — and walked across the parking lot and into the Hofstra soccer stadium.
And the fans, estimated at more than 5,000 and possibly swelling to close to 10,000 by the time practice ends around 3:30, let out a loud, appreciate cheer at seeing No. 4 take the field.
Eric Allen, Stephen Haynes and I will provide full coverage n Favre's first practice in Green & White as the day turns into night here on Long Island. And Haynes' story on the early-arriving Jets fans will be going up on the site shortly.
Kassell placed on IR
At the top of his news conference, Mangini did have one piece of housekeeping news that didn't involve Favre but represent bad news for the defense and special teams: Brad Kassell has been placed on injured reserve.
"With Brad, it's his right knee," Mangini said. "We've signed offensive tackle Thaddeus Coleman, so he'll replace Brad [on the roster] in the short term." Coleman, an undrafted free agent from Jerry Rice's old college, Mississippi Valley State, was cut by the Cardinals on July 31.
Kassell, meanwhile, was the first backup behind David Harris and Eric Barton at inside LB and was also a main cog on kick coverage and returns. David Bowens, the 10th year "old dog" who is learning new tricks at ILB, could move into Kassell's defensive role. Stephen Haynes will talk to Bowens and Harris and provide a report later this afternoon.
Mangini also gave the latest word that TE A.J. Schable, injured late in the win over the Browns on Thursday night, "is going to be fine. We're going to monitor him the next couple of days and make sure everything's progressing the way it needs to progress. That's good news."
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Randy Lange Said:
"Thanks for your support, Murph Dogg."
Bob Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:20pm ET"I've been a Packer backer all my life, looks like I'm the newest Jets fan. Go get Em Brett. "
David E. Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:23pm ET"Tough that we lose Kassell. He's provided good depth at the ILB spots for us. I think he got hurt on that play blitzing Brady Quinn up the middle, and Quinn got away and scrambled for a first down. We do need help on the line with the injury to Oldenburg...and I think Murrell, Renkart or Spencer can be counted on..esp Murrell. Randy, any comments on how Girault and Renkart are doing so far?"
Foerster Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:03pm ET"Been a packer fan for 50 years (1959) but I am also a Brett Favre fan! Looks like I will be rooting for the Jets this year. As for the packers, can't support thompson and mccarthy. Go Jets!!! "
kathyinozarks Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:16pm ET"I am a huge Packer fan, but an even huger Brett Favre fan-I will follow his games anywhere-so I am a new Jet Fan-shame on the Packers for not letting Favre be Farve and play the game"
Favrefan Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:21pm ET"i'm with bob, newly converted jet fan, still love the packers players but the jets administration has already shown more intelligence than the packer's. Jets - packers superbowl?"
Jim Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:22pm ET"I too am a "Packer Backer" and remember well when Brett took over for "Magic Man"... It's tough to see Brett in another jersey but I will be following the Jets this season in hopes of seeing him do well for the team... Hello to all the Jets fans!! Go get 'em Brett!!!"
Packandload Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:28pm ET"Hey Bob you have never been a Packer fan."
Chris M. Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:34pm ET"I to was a Packer Backer of 18 years. Now i'll be rooting for the J-E-T-S !!! JETS !!! JETS !!! JETS !!!. Go get em Brett !!!"
Robert Costello Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 3:38pm ET"I have been a PACKER fan for 40yrs and will never change. I wish all the best to all you Jet fans. We had a great run with your new QB. The Packers made a big mistake letting Brett go and I know he has a few good years left. GO PACKERS"
louie Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:06pm ET"great updates, can we get some favre practice video, also i wanna know whats the difference between the west coast offesne, and the jets offense."
Nathan Mills Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:15pm ET"30 years cheering for Green Bay are over! They are not only loosing the Greatest QB in NFL history, but they are also loosing tens of thousands of fans. Proud to be a new Jets fan if you will have me. J-E-T-S "
Mark T Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:21pm ET"I am excited that we get to take advantage of the speed of Keller and Cole now. This will be an awesome season. Brett can lead the way and the "The Other Brett" can take over in a couple of seasons."
art decoursin Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:22pm ET"If i need to get the NFL TICKET to watch the JETS games I will. Always been a Packer fan BUT now GO JETS and BRETT. Please take good care of our Brett..."
Jethead Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:37pm ET"We will all soon get sick of Brett chucking interceptions. This is the worst move the Jets have made in years! A few weeks of excitement in exchange for a season with a QB who isn't committed any more to do what it takes to win (look at why Green Bay released him) and isn't 100% committed to play. Looking forward to 2009."
DRA Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:39pm ET"I hope Jet fans enjoy Brett Favre as much as we did in GB. He made Packer Football fun again and I hope he does the thing for the Jets. I will be watching Jets games along with Packer games here in Green Bay. When Brett was traded alittle part of every Packer fan die."
CMP Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 4:40pm ET"I like the trade, a 4th round is a no brainer; However I've been a Jet fan for many painfull heartbreaking years(fake spike, 1998 Championship game ect.) So before I break out the bubbly I need to wait and see how things go tak to me in November."
Jim Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:01pm ET"The US Olympic team must have flown through the Twighlight Zone on their way to China last week folding time and space as we know it. Brett Favre is a Jet! Are you kidding me? Jets fans Brett Favre is your captain put your trays in the upright position and prepare for takeoff."
Packman Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:12pm ET"My wife and I cancelled our reservations to go to Green Bay to watch Brett's comeback this weekend. I envy the Jets fans being able to watch a legend in action. Best of luck to Brett and I hope the Jets make the playoffs."
Neal R. Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:17pm ET"It is going to be strange indeed, Greenbay has definately lost me as a life long fan and I hear that a lot in the last couple of days.Good luck Jets and I will be rooting for you guys now. Jet Favre forever."
JETFANOFTHENORTH Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:30pm ET"I think it was great for the team and great for the game. A 4th rounder maybe a bit more DUH....Clemens will learn a great deal from this which will only make us a better team. I am sorry the only thing Clemens was learning as a back up to Pennington was how a gentleman acts BUT NOT ENOUGH football aspects to make the JETS better. Favre changes that all. Well done for this year great for FUTURE..."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:43pm ET"Randy, Today's practice the crowd was amazing. I remember when Parcells tooK over in 97 the 1st practice was the biggest crowd i had ever seen. But todays was off the charts. The electric feel in the stands i felt like i was at Woodstock. Funny thing though the other Brett looked the best. Favre will be fine. That 50 yd pass to Cotchery is just a preview of things to come."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:48pm ET"Clowney had another strong practice and Baker after a few drops caught some nice passes. Bowens has looked the best out of all the LB's this camp so far. Too bad about Kassell. I am sure Mr. T is already looking for a replacement.And thank God Schable will be fine. Great day today for the Jets."
vjmoney Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 5:59pm ET"Im tired of New England fans posing as jets fans and leaving negative comments about the Jets/Favre situation."
Harold A. Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:02pm ET"Favre should have stood with the team when Schable was hurt, the picture of him and Mangini was about as close as he came to him. While the whole team went up and even most of the Browns, Favre stayed behind to mime passes, something I would assume he would know how to do by his age. "
jtjet Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:09pm ET"Great day for the Jets. The energy level of the Jets fan has risen dramatically with Brett's arrival and good things are on the horizon. I can live with an interception or two for every 8 or 10 touchdowns. "
Rodney Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:43pm ET"Pats fans could be so childish sometimes. Instigating drama, name calling, videotaping the sidelines... com'n guys grow up! Sheesh!"
Margie Taylor Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 6:58pm ET"Hey--been a Packer fan all of my life, but was never ashamed of it until this past week. I a new Jats fan, and I look forward to a winning season with an awesome football team and the best QB in the NFL!! Good Luck Jets and go get them Brett-we here in Wilmington, NC love you!"
Frank Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 7:00pm ET"Ira I said it a few days ago the biggest beneficiary in this is Ratliff he got his chance the other night that he would not have had if this trade wasn't made. Mangini has taken notice and made some positive comments about him. Ainge will end up on the practice squad. As for Clowney he is the real deal and will be pushing the starters I can see him catching 8-10 TD's as the deep threat this year."
Tonyk Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 7:23pm ET"Im going insane with this! We are the JETS! We are the best! Welcome Brett with open arms! Al Toon Joe Klecko Joe Willy Vinny Wayne Ch, C'mon guys Im hoping Brett stays on to coach our new guys when he's done. Lets make him a home in jersey! Were still here maybe he'll stay too! He can afford the taxes even though we cant..."
Bob Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 8:12pm ET"I've been a Packer fan my whole life, and with that comes being a huge Brett Favre fan. I will continue to support the Packers. But I also hope that Brett Favre and the Jets have a great year. Go Jets. Go Pack. I will support both teams this year."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 8:58pm ET"Frank, Ratliff has been playing well all camp. He has locked up that #3 spot. I have been talking about Clowney and Stuckey since before camp even opened. Stuckey i knew could play Clowney i knew had speed and know shows us he can catch to. 8 -10 TD's is a bit much. Don't forget about all the other WR's and TE's. Clowney could have 3-4 TD's. There are only so many passes to go around. "
patrick Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:00pm ET"JETFANOFTHENORTH how could you say such a thing as that about CP. He was a leader and a winner for the Jets. And I don't believe at all that Favre's style of play is teachable at all. This move to get Favre is nothing more than a marketing gimmick, I mean I had high hopes for the jets this season, now I see them barely making the playoffs and losing in the WC cause Favre poorly managed the game."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:02pm ET"I really have to laugh at the so called experts cover the NFL. Nobody gave the Jets any respect with their WR group. Well guess what? They were all wrong. Great thing is the running game will be strong with the new o-line and now with the passing game it even opens it up more. Jones and Leon will clean up.I would love to see Stuckey and Clowney get some time with the 1st team this week."
Larry Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 9:43pm ET"IRA. Talk about laughing at the "experts", have you been listening to whats been coming out of Woodsons mouth on NFL net. ? We wont get any respect when we win the superbowl, but thats OK."
brian Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 11:11pm ET"the best QB, to the best city ,go brett"
Patrick T. Randolph Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 1:14am ET"As a "former" Packers' fan, I'd like to be in N.Y. to cheer our hero on . . . but I will have to settle with staying here in the Midwest. This year I will be a JETS fan. Go Brett Go! Go JETS Go!"
Ed Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 1:47am ET"I have been a packer fan all my life. But after seeing the way Brett was treated.... i have to cheer for the jets! GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Tom in New Jersey Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 1:50am ET"Our offense is going to be scary this season. We beefed up our O-Line and added Brett Favre. Does it get any better? All of our WRs are underrated. Add to that we also have 3 great TEs in Baker, Franks, and new and more than likely future Pro Bowler Dustin Keller. I'll be shocked if we don't average 24-35 points a game this season. Bye bye same old Jets! Hello Playoffs!"
Pack#4 Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:22am ET"After the way Brett was treated by the Packers I have no respect for them I will now root for the Jets all the way............. GO WIN A SB BRETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Patrick Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 2:52am ET"Yes, Ed. I agree! I was shocked at the way the organization treated "our great one of the green and gold". Go Jets!"
cynic Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 9:47am ET"The New York sports writers and sports media are like maggots on "road-kill".They'll devour Farve,and he'll be glad to get out of here,when the season's over, and not come back for a second season!"
Stephan Summers Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 10:31am ET"I'm another life long Packer fan who was appalled at the Packer's treatment of Bret Farve. I now have a second reason to cheer on the Jets. The first being the 1969 Super Bowl when the 'upstart' Jets beat the HATED Baltimore Colts. GO JETS!"
Drew Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 12:32pm ET"I will give you some credit here Ira...you have been talking up Clowney and Stuckey for over a month now. If Stuckey can stay healthy we should be set at WR. Clowney will get some chances but he will be our 4th/5th WR. He might run a fly pattern once in a while but 8-10 TD's Frank? I hope your right."
Patrick from PA Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 1:26pm ET"Randy, has there been more emphasis on the jugs machine in practice to get some of the recievers used to catching higher velocity throws from Favre? My main concern is Favre trying to do too much and forcing passes. If he takes the same approach that he did last year (being more conservative with his throws) I see no reason why we cant compete with the Pats for the Division crown. Cant wait,9/7/08"
Randy Lange Said:
"Patrick, receivers are using the Jugs ball machine after some practices. I don't know if there's more emphasis on the Jugs or not."
Ed Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 7:59pm ET"Jethead, you have lost your mind. The Packers traded Favre because he could not get over all the lies and deceit from Thompson. He could not commit himself to that so they got rid of him. As for the interceptions, I am sure you would rather see another boring game with an average quarterback managing the game. Those interceptions came with the most touchdown passes in the history of the NFL."
Linda Said:
Sun, August 10, 2008 - 11:19pm ET"You have many more new Jets fans all living in Wisconsin. We love watching Brett play and are sad to see him go to another team. TV stations in Wisconsin have asked to carry as many Jets games as they can possibly get. We wish Brett and the Jets a lot of luck. Go Jets!! Trade Ted!! Favre 4 Ever!! "
David Thorpe Said:
Mon, August 11, 2008 - 5:31pm ET"I love the fact the Brett's playing with the jets now. I don't know what all the hoopla is about bandwagon fans. If you've been following brett for 16 years and your still following brett today. i don't see what the problem is there. Also, all the added revenue and fan base at away games. Why would you want to alienate any new fans to your franchise? Your family just got a whole lot bigger. Enjoy"
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Murph Dogg Said:
Sat, August 9, 2008 - 2:12pm ET"Christmas in August! I still can't believe it.. No more negativity.. let's think nothing but SUPER BOWL VICTORY, Jets fans! BELIEVE IT!! Also, all our best to Chad, a great team player.. Thanks for doing a great job Randy-- YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!"
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