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File Under: Darrelle Revis, Eric Barton, Bryan Thomas, Mike Nugent, Leon Washington, Jason Pociask, Hail Mary
07/29 — For those who asked about Bryan Thomas, No. 99 played a major role during today's second training camp practice that just concluded at Hofstra.
Early on, Kellen Clemens tried to laser a pass to TE Dustin Keller (Kellen-to-Keller). But Keller couldn't hold it and the fans in the stands let out a collective groan, as if to say, "Dustin, how could you?" Meanwhile, Thomas raised his hands to the sky.
Keller didn't drop it. Thomas, dropping in coverage, got a piece of the ball as it whizzed past. In hockey, that deflection would have been a goal and a roar of approval for Thomas.
But BT got his cheers later. The Jets were working on their "rare plays" (APBA Baseball and Football term), which included Hail Marys, two-point plays, and then their Stanford Band special as they lateraled the ball all over the field as they did at the end of the Indianapolis game in 2006, trying to score an improbable game-winning TD.
On one such multi-lateral play, Leon Washington passed back across the field and Thomas swatted the ball down. But since the pass was a lateral and Thomas didn't cover it, the offense recovered and continued the play. A few seconds later, Washington had the ball again and again threw a backpass. A no-doubt-exhausted Thomas again batted it down, but this time fell on it to end the play. Whew.
Darrelle Revis made the most dramatic pass defense. Clemens scrambled a bit and saw Wallace Wright seemingly open on the sideline. But Revis was all over the route, intercepted the pass, pried himself away from Wright and took off down the sideline for a pick-six.
LB Eric Barton made a couple of strong PDs himself. S James Ihedigbo broke up two Pennington Hail Marys, rejecting one out of the end zone and swatting the other down at the goal line. Brad Kassell also broke up a desperation throw.
Offensively, TE Jason Pociask kept up his streak of nice receptions. Brett Ratliff's toss into the end zone was just a little far for Pociask, so he got his right hand on the ball and tipped it back so that he could get both hands on it for the score.
RB Jesse Chatman also broke into the secondary on a jitterbug run during the offense's two-minute drive to run out the clock and secure a victory.
On the FG watch, Mike Nugent went 7-for-10, with his long successes from 41 and 48 yards and his misses from 46, 53 and 58.
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Randy Lange Said:
"Pete, I have not heard Kellen Clemens talk of being discouraged and I have not seen any evidence of that. The pass protection, from what I've seen, has been decent for all QBs."
Damone Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:54pm ET"Everybody thats been on the radar before knows who i am.I Told u before Bryan Thomas was no joke.Tom Brady is in trouble...an i mean period!!!"
Pete Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:57pm ET"Hey Randy, how are the projected starting o-lineman doing with pass protection? also havent heard much of Marcus Henry, hows his camp?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Pete, Marcus Henry made a couple of nice receptions using his height in today's a.m. practice."
SHARIF Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 9:13pm ET"RANDY, IN YOUR OPINION WHICH SIDE OF THE BALL HAS HAD THE EDGE IN THE TEAM BATTLES??...OFFENSE OR DEFENSE??....TO ME SOUNDS LIKE THE DEFENSE HAS BEEN SOLID..AND THE OFFENSE HAS BEEN SHAKY...KC SEEMS TO KEEP THROWING INTS...ALMOST EVERY ENTRY I 'VE READ FROM U INCLUDES A KC INT....I LIKE THE KID BUT THATS NOT GONNA GET IT DONE..."
Brian Sommer Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 9:26pm ET"I am glad to see BT having a good camp! Hopefully he gets back to his 2006 form and puts last year behind him. With BT , Pace and Gholston we have three good ,possibly great pass rushers ! I can't wait for the season to start!"
Ira Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 9:30pm ET"Yes Thomas had a nice practice and he also had a PD or tipped ball on day#1. Randy, Did he have to run a lap for not falling on the ball and covering it the 1st time? Nugent 7-10 is OK. O'Dea needs to work on Nugent's long field goal attempts. He was money at Ohio State. Revis will be an all-pro player this year along with Kerry."
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, no lap for BT tonight."
nickp Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 9:58pm ET"how has tony richardson looked at fb? also what about musa smith and jesse chatham, are one or both of them going to make the team? i know smith can play rb and fb as well as special teams. how about abram elam, it sounds like eric smith has been impressive and no mention of elam, hes def. a good compliment to rhodes who can lay a big hit. "
CEDRIC Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:02pm ET"Randy, I posted that Kellen to Keller phrase when they first drafted Dustin. Somehow it never got posted (or maybe i missed it). Do i get a Pertcentage?"
CEDRIC Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:08pm ET"I am now officially ROUTING FOR CHAD PENNINGTON to win the job. IF KELLEN CLEMENS wins, i will Support him fully. But after that Q&A on the "Tues. player Interviews" You have to respect Chad's Heart, Football IQ & Guts to deal with what he's dealt with here. I dont take anything back on what i said about him. I'M ROUTING FOR HIM DESPITE ALL OF THE FLAWS. HE'S JET!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:41am ET"Yeh like nickp said,where is Elam.And this should be Nugent's last year to prove he belongs.He cant get that FG over 50 yards and he can't get the KO in the endzone.He even scares me on average FGs.Hes gonna hurt us.Hey Randy,hows Harris looking?sounds quiet.Is that just the calm before The HiTMaN ThE HAMmMER STORM!!"
ira Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 7:04am ET"What exactly would be a "jitterbug" run ?"
Ira Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 7:05am ET"I was very impressed with M.Smith last Saturday. He reminds me of slightly smaller Lamont. He is tough to bring down and will be a good short yardage back for them."
Pranit Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 7:38am ET"Randy, How has Justin Miller looked so far? Am assuming he's playing corner opposite revis..Better or we'll still have a weak link this yr? ...Is he or Leon returning kicks/punts this yr? thanks "
Randy Lange Said:
"Pranit, Justin Miller has been looking good working at RCB. He has also been returning kickoffs. In practice. I don't know who will be back for KOs this year. As Parcells used to say, you'll just have to come to the game to find out."
Alan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:14am ET"At this Point im routing for both, we just got to hope that if chad wins he doesnt get injured again but hes got to be able to throw the long ball, the whole defense in the leagues got him figured out, 25 yards doesnt do it, well see though come on chad and clemens go deep!!! "
Alan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:22am ET"If chad can throw the deep ball and prove everyone wrong then ill stop routing for clemens point blank, im dissapointed in what hes doing in trainign camp he did good in the minis but now its all chad, lets just hope hes not injured again common jets "
Dale Moyer Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:05am ET"Pennington has proven he can win with a decent OL, and since last yearsOL was indecent and management has done somthing about it he could have a very good year. Long passes start with good protection and there was very little protection last year so you can,t count him out . Randy, any chance to stream the scrimmage on Sat.?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Dale, ESPN Radio will broadcast coverage of the first half of Saturday's Green & White practice, and we are planning to stream coverage of the entire practice on newyorkjets.com."
Ira Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:17am ET"The last time somebody caused a distraction Herm dared him to come on the field and he had 2 players running at him while he held a blocking pad. That was funny and then he was quiet the rest of practice. Please don't let Carton cause a problem today. And then don't invite him onto the field after he pulls this nonsense today. This could make the Jets look very bad if Carton causes a problem."
Ira Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:54am ET"Randy, Great about the broadcast this week. Is Bob and Marty doing it or Greg and Don? If the Jets lame out and let Carton do this they better not let him comeback to do his show with boomer in a week or two. Let Boomer do the show by himself. This is a total disgrace and it would be better to even shut down practice to the public if need be."
Randy Lange Said:
"Bob Wischusen and Marty Lyons are on board to handle the game."
Tershire Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 10:08am ET"Everyone needs to stop routing for Chad or Kellen. As a fan we need to route for whoever gives us the best chance to win. I think that the coaches will use the alternating QBs program, like Arizona did last year."
Jason Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 10:36am ET"Let me start by saying I am a Pennington fan. However I do not think the Jets are a superbowl caliber team with him at quarterback. I feel the Jets should name Clemens the starter and start grooming this kid. Watching those games last year showed that Chad is fine for the first three qurters. If they are trailing in the fourth the game was over. Sorry Chad (Iam a fan) ut its Kellen's turn and I th"
Larry Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 10:41am ET"Randy, lot of good talk and improvement on the Offense,thats great. But how is the D doing with the pass rush. It was pathetic last year and really must improve."
Hogan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 10:42am ET"I was routing for KC but after seeing the PM practice I am for chad all the way. I was very disapointed in his playing. Was Harris there? Also Revis looks a little bigger, he will have a great year I think."
Andrew from Nova Scotia Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 10:51am ET"Great article in todays times;Although I too was initially enamoured with Favre I feel there will be great motivation for Chad(one of the classiesd athletes in any sport) and he will lead our team to a special year.Don't forget two years ago we whipped the Packers(31-0 at halftime).I will show the interview with Chad to my kids today/This is how a man deals with adversity!!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 11:32am ET"Chad looks good in camp because our D is learning not GAME PLANNING FOR CHAD!Theres a big difference.Game planning for Chad is stacking the line to stop the run and cover short passes.Can't do that with Clemens he'll burn you.Half of Clemens INT last year were WRs faults or Hail Marys,just like this years camp so calm down.Chad does'nt throw to TEs.Clemens was the reason Baker had a career year."
uncle joe Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 11:40am ET"And lets not even discuss those disgusting screen passes to the WRs.He gets his WRs killed.Coles and Cotchery were hurt last year.Forget no Line or Running game,he had no one to throw the ball to.Everyone wants Farve the INT King.Let Clemens Fling the ball.He could come back from a deficit,hes great in the HURRY UP!When Defenses know Chad is throwing hes in trouble,WE ALL KNOW THAT!"
roland Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 12:36pm ET"O is alot better this year and all the hype bout mr.washington is true he came in looking very big n when i asked him bout it he said he had an exhausting off-season. The d is lookin a little better and im expecting big numbers from my fav jet #25 KERRY RHODES.....He is lookn very heads up during the first couple days and he says hes excited for the season Go Jets"
uncle joe Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 2:02pm ET"Hey Randy,would it be possible to post a poll to see who Jets fans would rather have on our team today Leon Washington or Reggie Bush?Its amazing how everybody wanted Bush on draft day,yet Leon is OUR MVP! and if we traded for Bush we wouldnt have Ferg,Mangold,Clemens and probably wouldnt have drafted Leon"Where Did He Go"Washington!Arguably the franchise's best Draft Class Ever!"
Art Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 2:04pm ET"Ok you guys need to understand this is training camp...and you will see many things that you won't see on a regular season practice, that being said both quaterbacks are practicing against the same defence...and Clemens strong arm is not getting it done..while Penigtons weak arm @ least is not making the mistakes that Clemens is. Please find me a combination of BOTH !!!"
MikeMc Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 2:52pm ET"Uncle joe, your anti Chad rhetoric seems personal, the best QB will play and it seems as if Chad the ultimate professional, is blowing clemmens out of the water. Chad with a solid line , rungame and defense is deadly when healthy. If he has a down year or gets injured this year I'll move on emotionally as you have already done. Chad deserves, if he beats out Clemmens , to show he's a champion."
Larry Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 2:55pm ET"Ask Wayne Chrebet what the screen passes did to him. That was 1 tough man. 1 thing I'll say for Vinnie though is when he wasnt running the dink and dunk offense or curled in the fetal position, at least he could throw the ball,even at 42. Another example of what injuries will do to a player."
ScottinAfghanistan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 3:07pm ET"Randy, How far were those Hail Marys of Chad's that Ihedigbo broke up? Did they get broken up because they were ducks? Those passes are a crap shoot, but if they were 60 yards, at least he got them to the goal line."
Randy Lange Said:
"Scott, they were not ducks, they were standard-issue 50-yard desperation passes. And thanks for your work in the Middle East."
Bucks County Jeff Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 3:24pm ET"Bill Walsh said he looked for resourcefulness, creativity and passing accuracy in his quarterbacks; arm strength was far down the list. I trust Bill Walsh more than Uncle Joe. On a side note......I would like to see Chad have some fun this year. Get that fist pumping again Chad."
Hogan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 4:52pm ET"Randy, Did Coles and Harris Practice today?"
Randy Lange Said:
"No, Hogan, they did not."
uncle joe Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 5:19pm ET"Hey Larry,these people hate me.OK,Im sorry Ill leave Chad alone as long as we all stop the Farve talk.How could any Jet fan want a guy on our taem who gave our one great record(SINGLE SEASON SACKS) to the Giants?"
CEDRIC Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:19pm ET"UNCLE JOE, our DEFENSE isnt planning for Clemens either & he's still throwing INTs so what does that say about Clemens? He's getting outplayed by a weak armed QB, what else does that say? But Maybe I'm wrong?"
Ryan Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:50pm ET"How about Gholston? Did he practice and does he look like hes picking up the defense yet if so?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ryan, Vernon Gholston continues to practice and he looks as if he is gradually picking up the defense. As Gholston said Tuesday: "I'm good. It may just take a little while. Right now I'm a rookie trying to learn.""
GIOVANNI Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 6:54pm ET"CHAD WILL WIN THE STARING JOB HANDS DOWN,I DON'T KNO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THEY TRANING FACILITY YET ,AND IF YOU HAVE YOU HAVE GOT TO NOTICE THAT CHAD ARM STRENTH IS BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,HE IS NOT HURT HE IS RECOVERT FROM THOSE 2 SHOULDER SURGERY HE HAD AND I DON'T SEE HIM NOT GETTING THE STARING JOB,MANGINI SHOULD NAME CHAD THE STARER SO THE TEAM CAN FOCUSE ONPLAY"
Row Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 7:05pm ET"I'm with uncle joe on this blog, well stated. To the guys, I do live on this planet other then when I was deployed to Iraq in '05. That year really destroyed my confidence in Chad. '06 we were a punt return and a dink pass to Leon away from missing the playoffs and going 9-7. We need Elam to knock helmets off because we drafted Gholston instead of a solid cover corner. (which we NEEDED) GO JETS"
Wayne Said:
Thu, July 31, 2008 - 12:48am ET"Amazing how easily you guys forget.I love CP but he's got no arm strength & I can't take another year of the dinks & dunks or the 3 and out drives. It's painful.We need a QB w/ CP's mind & accuracy but can stetch the field which will open up the run game. Not sure which of our 4 QBs fits the bill but we need to give them all a shot & find out quick. Also need a mobile QB who can avoid the rush."
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Pete Said:
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:53pm ET"hey Randy, it seems like clemens is begining to get discouraged with his play as he's throwing the ball into traffic more that often now, is this true? How are the projected starting o-lineman doing in pass protection?"
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