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07/25 — Eric Mangini discussed several topics at his just concluded daily news conference today, and two of the names that came up were very big names.
Vernon Gholston's mention was expected. Mangini announced that "Vernon's in the house," that the Jets' sixth-pick-of-the-draft linebacker signed his first NFL contract and was about to participate in his first training camp workout with his new team when today's single practice begins at 1:30 p.m.
Brett Favre's mention was not, but ESPN.com reported before the news conference that the Jets have been granted permission to talk to the retired Packers quarterback.
Despite Mangini mentioning Gholston at the top of his opening remarks, the first half of the news conference dealt with the Favre rumors. The head coach was steadfast in declining to discuss the reporting by Chris Mortensen.
"With all discussions, those things are internal and that really hasn't changed," Mangini said with an occasional smile, adding that he and general manager Mike Tannenbaum "talk every night about a lot of different things. Those things we always keep internal."
The coach said nothing has changed since Thursday, when he said he was happy with the quarterbacks he has on his roster and in training camp, specifically Chad Pennington, Kellen Clemens, first-year man Brett Ratliff and fifth-round draft choice Erik Ainge.
"I feel the same way as I felt yesterday," Mangini said. "As with any conversations Mike and I have, Mike likes to talk about a lot of different scenarios. He enjoys a good chart, a good graph, a lot of scenarios. That's what he does, that's what he's supposed to do."
But he would not confirm if their recent talks included the future Hall of Fame signalcaller. When a reporter said that a report that the Jets have asked for and received permission to talk to a player is "black and white," Mangini responded:
"The fact that [our talks are] internal is black-and-white also. Like I said, I hope you can understand that."
Mangini also was asked if he felt a need to clear the air for his QBs and his players, many of whom are probably aware of the report.
"I think we all hear rumors about a lot of different things," he said. "There are always things coming out, always external scenarios put in place. That's no different. What you've got to do is focus on here, the things we're doing here. The other things are things that aren't going to affect your practice today, your performance today, your ability or our ability to improve today. When you lose sight of those things, you don't focus on those things, you lose sight of the progress you're trying to make."
Progress on Gholston's contract, on the other hand, was made slowly but steadily until all the i's were dotted and t's crossed and the team could make the announcement today.
"Vernon was here but he wasn't here," Mangini said about Gholston's presence at Weeb Ewbank Hall on Thursday while the finishing touches were put on the contract by the Jets and by Gholston's representatives. "You can't really do anything with a player until he signs the document. It was a little bit of hurry-up-and-wait. It wasn't anybody's fault. Everybody just wants to make sure it's right.
"With a contract, and with a contract like his, it might be triple-checked or quadruple-checked."
Now, the coach said, the Jets' top pick has catching-up to do.
"He's been running around pretty good," Mangini said. "He's got to make it up in a hurry. The train doesn't stop. The installation keeps going on."
Mangini had two other "housekeeping" announcements: Jesse Chatman and Musa Smith, the two veteran free agent running backs who went on the Jets' Active/Non-Football Injury list together on the eve of camp, have come off the list together and will participate in today's practice.
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Randy Lange Said:
"Dunnie, you did not hear Coach Mangini right. Vernon Gholston is wearing No. 56 at practice, which is going on now."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:55pm ET"I am very disappointed about this Farve stuff, see he's not even here and is causing trouble. Its not fair to Chad and Kellen who worked hard in the offseason for a promise to be able to compete for a job. Farve does not make the Jets better, it will take some time to learn this offense maybe longer than a year, does he have more than a year in him? This is a panic move that makes me nervous."
Ira Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:01pm ET"Francesa has said that the Jets have talked about trading for Favre. If this deal goes down he better give them 2 years and an AFC Title Game otherwise if he bolts after 1 year and no title Game this is a bad move."
Brian I Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:14pm ET"The process has started, and by opening day number 4 will be calling signals and the landscape of the AFC changes significantly. P.S. I wish the Jets would give Ira an honorary title with the organization, he is the most true Jets fan I have ever seen."
Howard Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:25pm ET"glad to see vg in the fold,but any move for farve is an absolute mistake for this team i just dont think he has the kind of yr he had last yr in him.let chad and kellen fight it out and let the qb who gives ou the best chance to win start"
Ira Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:26pm ET"If they trade for Favre then it shows me 2 things. They know Kellen can't beat out Chad and they realize that Chad will not get them over the hurdle and can only take them so far. If this happens it will be fast and Favre could be a Jet as soon as tomorrow or Sunday. Wow what a media circus practices will be."
rob Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:44pm ET"I hope that this Farve situation doesn't progress beyond this point. I think the front office has done a great job in stocking up on talent this offseason, I would hate to see the team stuff a lot of cap $$$ in Farve's pocket. Let's see what we've got!"
Pranit Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:46pm ET"If the Jets get Favre, then they'll remains what they have been for 40 years...a below average team...get guys who are on their way down; clearly over the hill...Favre was lucky to have a decent last yr, but before that he was sub-par...I know what Tangini will say, lets bring him in and let chad, kellen & favre compete...and let the best QB win..typical Jets...guess, the jets need a new GM/coach."
Nic Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:47pm ET"Thanks Randy for the great news! I am so amped about this signing, I can't wait for the season to start already! I am already a huge fan of Gholston and I can't wait to see him in action. I just ordered my first Jets jersey of the season and it is of course #56. It will be a nice addition to my collection. Go Jets!!!!"
Robert Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:48pm ET"I have been a season ticket holder since 1966. A lot of Browing Nagel's - it's simple - Farve gives the Jets a better chance to win in 2008. This is a "now" league - if you have the chance to upgrade your team - you do it!!"
Brandon Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:01pm ET"Fact of the matter is Brett Favre would absolutely make us a better ball club. Now I love CP and I would like to see him as the starting QB. But simply put Favre would make us better. Take the 21 starters on Green Bay & the 21 on NYJ. Now add Favre and which team you think is better. I say the Jets are. And the Packers won the NFC North and went to the NFC Championship game last year Bring him in!"
CEDRIC Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:08pm ET"Well Farve is at Packer Camp, therefore, the circus is in Green Bay, that shows you Farve's selfish Mentality right there. I will vomit if Favre comes here....Vomit."
Tom Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:12pm ET"The Jets need to win now!!!! Signing Favre would be huge for this team in getting back to the playoffs. The defense was built up through free agency and the draft. Signing Favre would bolster the offense and open up the running game. He is a proven leader and even if he plays two years that would be two years of exciting football. "
JP Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:13pm ET"Congrates to VG - now that he is here the D is complete. "
Brett the Jet Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:13pm ET"J-E-T-S BRETT BRETT BRETT!!! Sounds good to me! Makes us a genuine Supur Bowl contender now an maybe next year. He can go out like Elway and win us a couple of championships before hangin em up for real. "
JP Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:16pm ET"As for Farve - I say if you have the opportunity, you need to go for it - sign at least a 2 year deal - 3 would be better. We find out that Chad had (2) torn ligaments in his ankle from last year and went through the whole year. I love Chad, but with the shoulder surgeries and another injury, it is enough. - Get Farve and we still have KC and accurate Ainge. Then trade Chad to the Bears or Viks"
JetsfanDan Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:16pm ET"If we trade for Favre, like Ira said it means that our FO doesn't think Clemens is ready and they believe him to be an upgrade over Penny. I would only welcome the move if Favre gave us 2 years. One year wouldn't be worth it IMO. If they do make a this trade, we would have to give them Penny too, or trade him to another team because there is no way we can take on Favre's current deal with our cap."
Bud Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:22pm ET"I totally agree with Ira and MikeMC trading for Farve will be a mistake. He does not make them better, give Clemens a chance behind a better offensive line."
Ira Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:23pm ET"Who would have ever thought that 17 years after they missed out on Favre and taken Nagle Favre could finish his career as a Jet. Another funny twist Al Toon was just elected to the Packers' board of directors."
Glenn v Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:23pm ET"How realistic is it that Favre "could" be a New York Jet? What would they offer in a trade? Do you think that Clemens would be packaged with 2 draft picks? They couldnt have Kellen, chad and favre could they? "
scjoe Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:29pm ET"Really happy to see Gholston signed, that is big. As for Favre, I have long been a Farve fan, that is the point, TO long. Brett in his prime would have had me doing cart wheels, Brett today? Huge mistake!"
Alan Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:39pm ET"Forget about favre its not going to happen. end of story ill be dissapointed if it does, favre is not meant to be with the jets, if he was we wouldve gotten him in the draft as planned but the falcons thought he was someone he wasnt end of story. "
pd Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:45pm ET"do you think they'd take chad and a warm body"
DIe hard Jets Fan Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:48pm ET"As i said the other day I've been waiting 40 years and I'm tired of wait til year. Farve can out throw Clemons by 25 yards And Chad by 35, he will stretch the defence which will make the running game better. Great deal 40 year anniversary present Super Bowl 2009 Go Jet Farve!!"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:48pm ET"Ira, that would be exactly how I see it, if Chad beats out Clemmens how do you give Clemmens the job? Which means chad is a goner no matter how he performs in camp"
Pat Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:57pm ET"I totally agree MikeMc, at this point in his career how much does have left? It isn't fair to Chad or Kellen who have worked extremely hard this offseason. Let's just hope it's speculation and nothing more. Favre is a turnover waiting to happen. I don't think he's an upgrade at all. www.empirecitysportsblog.com"
Dunnie Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:12pm ET"You know what ... after thinking about this possible move for a while, I think that it might not be the worst thing for KC. Chad will be gone, and KC will have a veteran with a similar style to learn from. I don't know ... i could definitely get used to the idea I think."
Gary Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:33pm ET"Favre would instantly give the Jets a new and exciting face of the franchise. How ever with Favre not missing a game in 15 years it would be the Jets luck that he gets hurt in pre season and is out for the season and where stuck with Kellen."
Anonymous Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:33pm ET"Im really looking forawrd to this season, but it seems like i say that every year, but i expect alot out of thomas jones, and cotchery, and coles, as for favre....if we can get him then its all good, but even if not, i hope CP starts"
Joe Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:38pm ET"I totally disagree Farve can make any team better. I respect Chad and KC tons but i think he can put the jets over the top this year to take out new england"
NJPhones Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:45pm ET"Give them Chad and Bryon Thomas for Brett and see where we stand after that. Playoffs-that's where, and with Brett on our side, who knows how far we could go? 2-year deal, minimum, that is the way it has to be. Otherwise, let hm go to the Bucks. Either way, Clemons is not starting this year."
Pranit Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:58pm ET"Do the jets even have the cap space to bring in Favre? If they decide to, then they might have to give up on other important pieces...And what would they add, a 38 yr old QB, who any day or any move could land up in the DL or season ending injury....its a HUGE risk...HUGE.....play CP or Kellen...best bet this yr, imho.."
Row Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:01pm ET"Everyone here who wants to talk about Favre should go to the Green Bay website, it's www.packers.com. I like Gholston's deal, very conditional, allows him to play to be paid. Another question, anyone want to speculate where he will be lining up, OLB, ILB, DE? Personally, I want a QB named by preseason, I will always be a Jets fan, and I will back whoever is #1, but I want a #1!"
Scott Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:05pm ET" In case you missed the offseason, this team is built for a game manager not a gunslinger. Ball control, limited turnovers and defense, that's how this team plans to win. So If Favre becomes a Jet CPenn will have a chance to stick it to the Jets when Kansas City comes to town late October. Prediction for that game, Favre throws 3 picks while Herm and CPenn enjoy a homecoming win. "
ddoble Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:18pm ET"Packers would not trade for Clemens - that would leave them with a logjam @ QB including Rodgers, Brohm & Clemens. Getting Clemens doesnt' buy them anything. I would think it would be a couple of picks as opposed to players. If Miami got a 2nd rounder (2009) & 6th rounder (2010) for Jason Taylor in this market, what would Favre be worth?"
ez Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:22pm ET"i wonder if all this talk about Farve would be the same if he came off the 05,06 seasons when he threw more picks than td's!!!! i thought this management team was better,but i guess not in my opinion, they PANIC like their predecessors. i am a fan for over 40 years and a season ticket holder for over 30 i cannot see paying for PSL's. Investment i DON'T think so!!!!!!!!!! "
Dave Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:23pm ET"I dont think its fair to Chad and Kellen to bring Favre in since there already competing for the job. Although the thought of Favre and Brady in the same division, that would be a good game if he were a Jet but lets keep penny and kellen and see who's better. I say Pennington. "
SteveB Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:24pm ET"The whole concept of Favre makes me sick !!!!!!! If they sign Favre it will set us back further. Tangini must not feel they got the vote of confidence from Woody to see this thing thorugh. This will be their biggest mistake yet. I hope I wake up Saturday and this was just a bad dream. Maybe we will trade our entire O-Line for a washed up interception machine !! Think I'll be a giant fan!!"
Mike Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:42pm ET"Randy do the coaches take into consideration of what the fans say? Such as NO Brett Favre and start Chad Pennington? We're better off w/out him the guy is like 40 years old he cant play the game anymore when he leaves he leaves! No second thoughts, whats done is done"
Randy Lange Said:
"Mike, the coaches respect the fans but they can't take into consideration all of what the fans say. The reason is that for every fan such as yourself who says "No Brett Favre" or "start Chad Pennington," there is another fan who says yes to No. 4 or start Kellen Clemens. Eric Mangini, Mike Tannenbaum and all the coaches always have to do what they think is right, knowing they can never please all of the fans all of the time."
JP Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:58pm ET"This should not make anyone sick. If we keep Chad and he plays bad, he will be booed, the "I hate Chad" voices will come out and then Kellen will be forced into trying to be the saviour again. If we let Chad go to another team, he can have a fresh start with fresh fans and then with Farve, we get 2-3 years of one of the greatest qbs (that can throw), while KC and Ainge will be under his teaching"
greenjello Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:58pm ET"Go Farve! If he came here this team would have a whole new dimension! Pennington had his chance and failed every time. A new direction is needed and that direction is Green Bay! Just think of how other teams would respect the pass with him under center, and Thomas Jones would break out for 1500 easy! If we have the cap room sign the legend up."
Riski Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:02pm ET"Naw, I think trading Brett Favre would be the best thing happen to Jets, they Must win Champ this year, Favre would certainly help us increasing our chances to be the Champ. Beside I agree with Dave, its already a QBs are at competing for the job, so why not Favre join in too? if he not welcome in GreenBay? make sense... Umm, Welcome to New York City Favre, and U'll Love the Jets :)"
Pranit Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:11pm ET"(If they bring in Favre) I'd also consider switching teams, but would probably not be able to...But will definitely lose any confidence (i have left) in the tangini enterprises..."
Walter Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:13pm ET"Look what we did in the off season we got two new OL players that might be bust. We did a good job there. On the DL we have kris jenkins with a trade. We dont know what calvin pace will bring to the D. I think the Favre thing is like anything else we did this off season. I love the Jets and always will. The QB I have a good feeling for is Eric Ainge. "
Wayne Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:14pm ET"Getting Favre would be a huge panic move by Jets. Would show a total lack of confidence in KC & CP. Don't forget about Ainge.Tthink he's a diamond in the rough. Favre would be a big mistake.He's not the future of the team. Missed that boat 14 years ago. Making this move would show me why we haven't been in a SB in 39 years.QB is key but Favre is past his prime. Can't wait to see Gholston. Go Jets."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:17pm ET"O.K. good news it seems this whole Farve to the Jets has been created by the Packers .3 sources say the Jets are not bringing him in nor have they requested permission to talk to him. M.Smith says his sources at the jets tell him no way, Sal P. of ESPN is saying the Packers called the Jets & leaked the story. Tannenbaum told Pennington the Packers called him. The jets believe in their QB's as I do"
Rick Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:21pm ET"Looks like the Packs want a #1 pick for Farve. Id say do it. We're never gonna go as far as we can with Clemens or Pennigton. With the way we built up the team this offseason adding Farve guarentees us at least a spot in the AFC Championship possibly a Super Bowl. That means were given up a late 1st rounder, which history has shown we dont do much with anyway. Lets win now!!!"
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:29pm ET"JP , Farve has made it clear in the past ,it is not his job to teach or help the back-up in any way. Reading these posts we have only 2 types the no way we don't want him & the sign him now instant credibility for at least 1 yr. I understand the desperation of some long suffering fans, but we are heading in the Rt direction here for long term success,and don't want to take a step backwards in a yr"
Jamie Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:46pm ET"all hes going to do is make our team better i dont see how you could not want one of the greatest qbs of all time. lets face the facts that KC and CP wont cut it and ainge isnt ready we have to think about this season and whats best for THIS season or else well never be successful. dont get me wrong i love chad and feel bad for him but i want a title and frave gives us the best chance of getting 1"
JP Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:49pm ET"I agree with you Rick. I think that Farve is a good move. There is too much baggage with this QB competition (it happens every year because the coaches themselves just don't know). To quote the fans when the Jets passed on Marino in the draft, "Obviously the Jets know something that the, ya know, the people up here don't." I tell you, if the QBs become a problem this year, Tangini is gone."
Rick Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:54pm ET"By the way, I am a huge Jet fan and will support anyone wearing the green and white. But for all the talk about about how much hard work Clemens and Pennigton are doing and how its unfair to consider Farve. Let's face facts here guys it's not like we got Montana and Young competing for the starting job. JETS4Life."
Mike Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:54pm ET"But Rick you dont only want to think about just this year you also want to have future gurantees thats why teams often dont make one year contracts w/ players look at LT hes been with the Chargers for his whole career and look at what hes done for them"
EYEH8DAPATS Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:56pm ET"PLEASE don't bring in farve. He was good in his prime but he is clearly on the downhill side of his career. He would cost to much for the little bit time he would be with the team. The Jets will be fine without him. I only hope he does not come to NY. Wayne is right it would be a panic move and a huge huge mistake to sign him."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:59pm ET"Rick how can you say it Guarantees us a spot in the AFC championship game or the Superbowl ? thats the most ridiculous thing I read today. Tell that to Brady, and Manning, Tell it to Jax , Pitts, San Diego and Clev., and don't forget about Hous, Cinn , Den and Buff all on the rise. Farve guarantees us a selfish circus no more. We will get just as far with a team effort & efficient QB play. J-E-T-S"
JP Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:07pm ET"I understand where you are coming from MikeMc, but teaching does not have to be literal demonstrations or speech. Just having him there and witnessing his motions and wisdom on the field is beneficial. I believe thou, that those that want to sign him now are looking to the future as well. We will still have KC and Ainge and we do not want them to go. Chad, as much as I love him is the ? mark."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 8:06pm ET"Chad and Kellen are clearly more prepared to play than Aaron Rogers, why is GreenBay so desperate to get rid Of Farve, the cat's meow? Obviously there are issues if they are going to risk it all, they were one bad play from the superbowl, an int by the way on their own side of the field in O.T. The Packers are closer than the Jets , they need the experience at QB. GB fans are 50/50 on Farve !!!!"
Rob Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 8:18pm ET"AN old farve past his time is better than a Penington past his pirme or not. Farve's addition will make this team a serious contenter. "
Xavion Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:03pm ET"Im sorry to say but some of you guys are just jaded Jets fans... Dont get me wrong I love the jets to death but i am a football fan as a whole as well. Bringin g Farve to the Jets should please anyone clamoring for Clemmons to start. honestly Brett Favre is a Smarter, Bolder, and way more experienced Kellen Clemmons anyone saying Favre is too Irratic Should look at Clemmons again. "
Xavion Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:07pm ET"Also I think Favre is less of a risk Than Kris Jenkins, As I said most of you only pay attention to Jets but Kris Jenkins Is not the player a lot of you are making him out to be. I live in NC and see every panthers game. KJ was injured season long in first game 2 years in a row. When he became un motivated he disappeared and John Fox is no push over. Plus last year DRob out performed him. "
Xavion Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:12pm ET"D.Rob Played in 3-4 while Kris played in 4-3 with Julius Peppers and Mike Rutger Beside him and Still didnt dominate. Kris hasnt been a factor since the Superbowl season. I really think he benefited from JP and Mike. I reserve Judgement because he did look better in his first few years but you fans that want to Talk about a man that earned MVP nods just last season as being "Horrible"? I dont get"
Rick Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 10:30pm ET"MikeMc I'm glad you brought up the fact we have to deal with Brady, Manning, the Steelers and everyone else. Thats precisely why we need Farve. As far as Farve bringing a circus to town... come on, he's not Bonds or Roger Clemens or TO. The guys a class act and a great player. I agree hard work and team unity will take us far, but Farve can get us over the hump."
Ray Said:
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 2:37am ET"The only thing I heard on ESPN radio about Favre today was that he declined to negotiate with the Jets at this time. NFL.com just says he is reporting to GB and the Jets and TB are the main contenders at this point. Sounds like alot of rumor mill going on in here. Tell me what we would be giving first. You tell me a first rounder and I'm not happy. We can't give away the farm for this guy...."
Ray Said:
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 2:52am ET"you already know he'll keep us in limbo as to whether he will come back for a second year. So what do we give up for one season? And all you guys "guaranteeing" how far we'll go with him.....STEP AWAY FROM THE PIPE!!! It's fun to discuss what would or wouldn't happen if he comes here, but NOTHING is guaranteed! The Pats, Chargers, Colts and Jags are too good to be counted out. "
Joe Maturo Said:
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 5:18pm ET"The true JETS fans don’t want Favre we know he doesn’t fit our system and he is too old to invest the time and money (he may play up to 2 more years, maybe) it would take that to get him in our system, a system that wouldn’t fit his style of play anyway. Here is another reason we don’t want Brett, he doesn’t even want to play in New York, why the hell would we want a guy that isn’t excited about p"
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Dunnie Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:52pm ET"Did I hear Mangini right that Gholston is not going to be wearing #56 ?? "
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