Allen is the senior managing editor of newyorkjets.com. He is in his seventh season with the Jets.
File Under: ESPN, Chad Pennington, Eric Mangini, Thomas Jones, Kellen Clemens, Alan Faneca, Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace, John Clayton
07/21 — The wait is pretty much over! The Jets begin their 2008 Capital One Bank Training Camp Thursday at Hofstra with two practices open to the public. ESPN — the self-proclaimed worldwide leader in sports — unveiled its precamp NFL Power Rankings Monday and the Jets were placed 23rd overall.
“Eric Mangini plans to go heavy on the run this year, but will there be enough offense to make a playoff run? The big question is at QB,” wrote John Clayton.
Ten panelists ranked each club and the Jets scored an average of 22.5, falling right between the 22nd-ranked Broncos (22.4) and the 24th-ranked Bengals (23.6). No pundit ranked the Jets higher than No. 18 overall and Matt Williamson handed out the Jets' lowest ranking at No. 27.
We all know these rankings mean absolutely nothing, but they’re kind of addictive. I don’t know about you, but I still read tons of preseason prognostications for college and pro football. While vacationing on the North Carolina Outer Banks a couple of weeks ago, I had a stack of preview magazines and couldn’t put them down.
Let’s not beat around the bush here — the Jets aren’t getting a lot of love nationally. We didn’t need ESPN’s latest rankings to confirm the obvious. ESPN is also letting the public rank the teams in a SportsNation Poll and the Jets were ranked 25th there as of 3:10 p.m. EDT.
Fortunately none of these rankings mean a damn thing. It’s not my job to predict outcomes, but I find a lot of the talk about the Jets a little comical. Many people think the Jets had a terrific off-season, but they keep on dwelling on the quarterback situation as a negative.
The last time Mangini held a QB competition? His team won 10 games. And there are other teams that face questions at quarterback. Paul Zimmerman, who has forgotten more football than I know, has already forecast a Super Bowl victory for the Minnesota Vikings. While Tarvaris Jackson might turn into a fantastic signalcaller, he is hardly a proven commodity.
There will always be uncertainty with young quarterbacks because development takes time. The talented Kellen Clemens will be better this year than he was last year, but that doesn’t mean this is his job to lose.
Chad Pennington, albeit a polite Southern gentleman, is mentally tough and one of the greatest competitors I’ve even been around. He wants to win and he has gained so much respect in that locker room over the years because he’s a battler.
Mangini, a bright head coach whose commitment to winning is unquestioned, wants one man to step up and take the reins. He’s going to let them compete on the field and give the ball to the top performer. If I’m a fan, it’s all I can ask for.
A couple of years back, the “experts” said Penny’s shoulder was shot and then he went out and captured Comeback Player of the Year honors in 2006. To count him out is nothing less than foolhardy.
The young Clemens was uneven (as almost all young quarterbacks are!) last season, performing on a team that struggled for much of ’07. He is talented and he is smart, and he’s got that cowboy confidence that you like.
So while everyone sleeps on the Jets, you know Mangini and company are going to set the alarm clock early. The cupboard isn’t bare, ladies and gentlemen.
Alan Faneca, one of the best offensive linemen in football, is going to be stationed between Nick Mangold and D’Brickashaw Ferguson on Thursday. Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are waiting to hit the ground running, Tony Richardson and Bubba Franks still have some tread on those tires, and I’m still waiting for someone to name me a tougher receiving duo that Coles and Cotchery.
Calvin Pace has the ability to fire around the edge. The earth is shaking but that’s no earthquake — just 360-pound Kris Jenkins at the nose. Darrelle Revis and David Harris are young studs and Kerry Rhodes is a fine playmaker.
“There are quite a few free agents I am excited to see in pads,” Mangini said last week. “I love to see the young guys, in year two, where they go. ... I love watching that evolution and seeing what happens.”
We’re about to find out.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (32)MikeMc Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 6:08pm EDT"This is my favorite time of year, I get to listen to all the so called experts the masters of their trade tell me how bad or good these teams will be. Now i have affection for my jets of course but ranking them 23rd is silly. The talking heads are wrong more than the weatherman and I take great pleasure in watching them flip flop as the season progresses. Do not be offended by the ranking,be giddy"
Bob M. Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 6:50pm EDT" I read those magazines too. The Experts Ranking makes me Laugh. Maybe its time put some money on them early in the season,With those Experts Spreads!!! What they did in the offseason.. Gives me the CHILLS"
Howard Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 7:54pm EDT"i cant even think of the last time i watched espn nfln is where i go for my info now,and espn .com is not in my favorites.but the jets always seem to do better when everyone puts us down"
Row Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 8:08pm EDT"I still predict 12-4, we just need a QB to do their job. We have a lot of leaders and proven veterans here. I just wish someone would jump on the Joe Horn bandwagon, he would be an amazing 3rd down receiver in addition to being great in the red zone. "
EYEH8DAPATS Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 8:57pm EDT"The Jets are right where they need to be clearly flying below the radar. With all the moves that were made in the OS they will be a much improved team. The O-line was so bad last year we could of had montana or unitas under center and still would have struggled. Thomas Jones is going to run like a mad man over the opponents and compete for the rushing title. I can't wait until 9-7-08 FOOTBALL BABY"
Pranit Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 9:06pm EDT"i could care less about ESPN....but say whatever you want, QB is definitely a shaky situation for gang green...Its not a done deal, imho...If things don't go well this yr, prepare yourself for jets drafting a QB much higher in 09.."
Chris Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 11:00pm EDT"Go Jets! Get ready for Danny Woodhead. I spent the last four years watching him, I don't think you will be disappointed."
Ray Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 3:15am EDT"First of all, the term "expert" gets thrown around way too often with these guys. Just because some big, fat oaf lined up on one side of the ball or the other for 14 years, they'll plop him down in front of a mic and proclaim him an "expert" on everything football. In reality, an OLineman is an "expert" on blocking schemes or what it's like in the trenches or the lockerroom. An ex QB.........."
Ray Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 3:24am EDT"...might be an expert on how a qb reads a def or on audibles, etc. But pay attention to their predictions. They are no better than anyone in here, it is just an opinion, and we know what those are like! And then you have guys like Todd McShay. What makes this guy an "expert", he sure couldn't predict the draft!! If they are right, it's "I told you so" if not they have some lame excuse."
dave h Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 4:26am EDT"we looked bad in the w/l column last year and off def rankings, the red zone was poor, but the jets did move the ball between the zones well, tj did run for 1k yds in spite of the off line, my thinking has now come full circle either qb will give us a better than even season, and I'll bet on it !!!!"
uncle joe Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 6:25am EDT"Like Mangini said,seeing guys in year 2 is exciting.Revis will be great again,but I hope Stuckey stays healthy so we could see what hes got,he looked real good last year until he got hurt.But HitMan the Hammer Harris in my opinion changed this team around last year.He will be the face of this D and the next great MLB in this league replacing Lewis and Urlacher.And cant wait to see LEON."
SteveB Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 6:43am EDT"During our 10-6 2006 season all the prognosticators had us rated worse than this years 23. If you remember CP is the one that made Mangini look good that year and with a much improved O-Line and a stud running back combo like Leon and Thomas I think 10-6 is there for us if we take care of business. I really think Callahan will help a lot. But I think CP has to play for that to happen. Go Jets!!"
tai Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 8:36am EDT"I agree with you all the way randy. Rite now the jets have all the pieces we need to be a contender. The jets now need to play more aggressive and turn all tese doubters into believers cause I really believe this is our year to make a name for ourself. And for the QB situation, both are proven QB's and it is flat out wrong to judge either one of them from the bursted OL we had a year ago"
TAtlas Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 9:29am EDT"You know I Hear so much about Thomss Jones last year doing horrible. I mean we got to get him some Td's this year but he still ran for 1000 tough yards. Which to me shows what he can do without a line and now he is going to have one!?!?!?! i feel a good year ahead of us. Lets go JETS...."
JETScha Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 9:30am EDT"We do have good talent all trying to come together this year, put i still think QB is the problem and agree with the"experts". I think Chad still should come through camp with the starting job. The players I am most execited about are David Harris, Calvin Pace, and Thomas Jones, big things from these guys this year, GO JETS!!!"
Kaashif Wedlock Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 10:22am EDT"I think the JETS are ready for the playoffs. lets be real. we have to much talent on the field not to be. managini should give the job to clemens because of his arm strength, i know he is young but he has experience now and has been in the system for therr years. the only link i see missing is at corner opp. darrelle revis. Thomas Jones is going to have a break out year this year. "
harbor rat Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 10:36am EDT"rankings are nice and all but i'd love to see the jets get all their draft picks signed and maybe not have a squabble about contracts every year...kudos to the jets for not ruining are year yet by letting us know we will have a seat liscence...cause we all know we will...my question is this...how can a stadium that is guaranteed to have 16 sold out home games every year charge anything...."
Dimitri Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 11:10am EDT"Arm Strength doesn't win Super Bowls - Brett Favre has only one... Accuracy and Quick Decision Making does - Joe Montana won 5... I'll take Chad and his spaghetti arm anyday!!!!"
Mike Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 12:22pm EDT"Give it to Clemens... He now has a line to protect him and a damm good one.. Dont get me wrong, I love Chad and he will always be one of my favorites but you can tell after 5 to 6 games, he looses strenth and corners just wait for the ball.. we will have a great year"
skins Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 12:41pm EDT"Chad's real strength lies in the play action, so if their running game is strong, Chad is the quarterback . J E T S jets jets jets"
Patrick Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 2:12pm EDT"I really think the defense is going to be great. The offense needs to step it up and we will have a good year. "
Kelli M. Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 2:18pm EDT"Calvin Pace has the ability and the might."
Larry Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 3:51pm EDT"SteveB. I cant disagree more. The ratings in 06 were because of an untested rookie head coach. Mangini and Schott came up with a great scheme to fit CP strengths.They get credit for that. Problem is it highlighted his weaknesses and he has many. End of the season we got figured out and he choked again. This will go on forever with CP we need to look to the future. "
Dominic Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 3:53pm EDT"I think the defense is really underrated this year. We have Kris Jenkins at nose, who did very well in freeing up Peppers and Rucker at Carolina. David Harris who is doing a outstanding job at MLB in his second year. Calvin and Vernon while be monsters on the outside that will give the defense so many opitions to blitz left,right ,and middle. The corners are improving right along with the safties."
Row Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 4:45pm EDT"To Dave h, Did you feel humiliated by our offense after the thanksgiving game? How did you feel about the 3 or 4 games without an offensive TD? TJ ran for over 1100 guys, just wasn't used in the right situations. I saw pass on 2nd, 3rd and short. We cannot be out game planned every week on offense. Sign Gholston to a conditional deal, I want him to play!"
Larry Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 7:50pm EDT"Row. Exactly! There was plenty of blame to go around last year. A good share to the coaches. CP was no longer effective and Kellen was thrown into it at the worst possible time for a rookie. They had a game plan tailored to CP limited abilities and when it blew up they they either wouldnt or couldnt change it. A lot of right moves since then hopefully they will turn it around. GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
dave h Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:07am EDT"to row, I agree with you, but if I remember right we did get to the red zone, yet for whatever reasons we came away with zip, but I do believe mgmt has addressed those problems player wise, to me the big ques now is play calling! and which qb can get us to the afc championship "
dave h Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:19am EDT"and yeah it was bad, but they were severely out classed by a team that could've and maybe should've gone a lot further. By that time we all knew the problems our team had, nothing could make up for those deficits, not even the lift from beating pittsbuirg. which we got to remember with a smile, or at least a grin."
GIOVANNI Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 12:34pm EDT"I DON'T LISEN TO THE SO CALLED EXPERTS,THEY FLIP FLOP MORE THAN PRESIDENT BUSH,I GUARANTEE THAT AFTER THE SECOND GAME AGAINST THE PATS THEY WILL BE SAYING THAT THE JETS ARE THE TEAM TO BEAT IN THE AFC EAST,AND A PLAYOFF CONTENDER IN WICH THEY SHOULD GO FAR IN THE PLAYOFFS,LIKE THE MAN SAID IN THE POST ABOVE THEY ARE WORST THAN THE WHETER MAN,JETS 11-5 AND AFC EAST CHAMPS LETS GO JETS 2008AFC CHAMP"
JETS ROCK Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 2:55pm EDT"I like your prediction Giovanni and some nice words. Totally true. The jets will soar high this year. WE WILL BE 11-5!"
casey Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 3:50pm EDT"Just want to say....i agree and enjoyed the way you broke down the QB race... Chad is my guy...but i'll take anyone who is going to help us go to Tampa... btw the pats can kiss my a**.....i dont care if we are wearing pink uni's with a ruffled collar......we just need to eliminate mistakes and capitalize in the red zone...plus we'll see how good the pats are without a full cabinet of videos "
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michael Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 5:52pm EDT"hey,lets get this camp going.i hate espn people always bring the jets down,they got nothin on on this year you watch."
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