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File Under: new Meadowlands stadium, Personal Seat Licenses, Jets PSLs
07/17 — Jets fans and season ticket holders will learn about the team's plan regarding Personal Seat Licenses, or PSLs, for New Meadowlands Stadium at the end of August.
The team has been studying the use of PSLs as a financing option for the $1.6 billion stadium after sending a survey to season ticket holders to explore a range of seating options, pricing structures, payment terms and amenities.
We'll bring information on PSLs to you on newyorkjets.com as it becomes available.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (122)David Said:
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 10:46pm EDT"Put another way, the Giants have clearly communicated their plan for PSL to their season ticket holders, and the JETS have no new infornation to report. "
MIKE Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 12:25am EDT"Where is Leon and Wellington? This wouldn't be happening if they were arround. Also do we have to buy PSL's when they build another stadium in 40 years.? Get ready for a stadium of suits."
John Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 1:36am EDT"Why wouldn't there be a joint announcement? Shouldn't both plans be the same since it's one stadium and both teams are paying the same amount for it? The survey that was sent out to Jets season ticket holders indicated that the Jets fans would be paying more. Let's see, the Giants have won 3 Super Bowls and been in 4 of them on the past 22 years and the Jets have won NOTHING!! Who should pay more!"
Manu Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 3:40am EDT"PSLs are an insult to every long-term middle-class Jets fan. The good old "bring your son and family to the game"-times are now officially over. I have a little hint for the organization: If you can't afford a new stadium - don't build a new stadium. That's how we normal people do it. "
arthur Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 5:35am EDT"well lets see two corner stones of the stadium taken by bud and met life ticket prices going up every year and parking as well now corporate buiness putting the blue collar worker out on the street not a fan of the psl seating but a fan of the game wich is becoming not affordable for the real fan"
Ira Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 7:07am EDT"Randy, I just hope the Jets will have the same type of payment plan as the Giants do with 3 payments and 40% of it due in March of 2010. "
Frank G Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 7:12am EDT"I am a season ticket holder since 1983, I do not think I will be renewing in 2010, pay more than I pay today for two seats in the lower level on the 25 yard line to be in the upper bowl. "
Daddy G Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 7:16am EDT"As a 24 year ticket holder, my view is that the initial communication cant really be serious, just probably a miscalculation by someone selling a "bill of goods" to senior Jet Management. I believe that a PSL of $3000 per seat could be doable, especially if given the option to pay over 10 years. That way there would be $300 per seat per year. Corporations should pay more though! I"
Craig Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 8:12am EDT"How can you have a PSL for a stadium that is shared, other stadiums the PSL gives you first oppurtunities at concerts and other events. Do I have to sit on the lap of the giant fan???????"
ap Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 8:13am EDT"A day late and a dollar short. Don't want to be 2nd class citizens but yet the Giants have been giving information to the fans in a timely basis and we just sit back and do nothing. Kind of like last year - Giants win the Super Bowl and we get 4-12 . If Woody doesn't structure the team PSL exactly like the Giants or BETTER than he has no cares for his fans. "
ap Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 8:15am EDT"Let's see if Woody still walks around shaking fan's hands after he announces his PSL structure. Build a team not a stadium. PSL should mean PLEASE STOP LOSING!!! "
Dunnie Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 8:25am EDT"I am not for PSLs either ... then again .. im not for ownership rights to season tickets either. I think seats should all be available at the beginning of every yr. to everyone. If you want to buy the rights for the season great, but all season tickets should be available to everyone every year. PSLs are a joke .. and so is a ten year waiting list."
Maryann Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 8:47am EDT"4 big corporate sponsers, personal money, government money, WHY THE FANS??? To buy a seat that I've had for 35 years? AND GET DOUBLE PSL'S SINCE THEY SHARE A STADIUM...COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!"
James Gabriele Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 9:40am EDT"I think its great. We had to have a new stadium, just had to. The Meadowlands is 30 years old. Its so outdated. Its not modern enough to steal every dollar from the season ticket holder. Its wonderful to read about the game experience the Jet fan will have in 2010. I can't wait to see it with my own 2 eyes. Randy stop drinking the cool aid the jets are givin you."
joe b Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 10:02am EDT"The quality of football that has been played by this organization over the past 40 years is PATHETIC. Most of the expansion teams have better playoff records than the jets. But we, the loayl fan is now getting a real slap in the face by this albatross we have supported for so long. I myself will never attend another game. I cannot support an organization that spits in the face of its LOYAL fans."
DKnyj Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 10:12am EDT"No one was begging you for a new stadium - and you are the geniuses that went WAY over budget! Plus you made us sit for 30+ years in a stadium with the other team's name on it, won ZERO Super Bowls and now we have to pay PSL's? The team would not exist without the common fan - $7 beers, jerseys, t-shirts, you name it - we've spent our hard earned money on it - all you care about is profits jerk"
William Lohrfink Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 11:02am EDT"I couldn't agree more with DKnyj. It's sad that in today's mrket we have to pay, or possibly pay for PSL's. If the Jets go with crazy PSL's, somebody's gonna have my seats in Section 140. Pony up an think of other ways to get your money for the stadium. We have been playing in Giants Stadium for 30 yrs... Let the Giants pay for this one."
Johnny Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 11:59am EDT"PSL's are for winning teams, aren't they? Let's be real, the common fans are the one's who suffer here. Now the majority of seats will be divided up among the big corporations, who will give them out to non-football fans, who never played or watched a game in their lives. The remaining tickets will go to ticket brokers, who will over charge, so the common working man can't attend either!!!!!!!!"
Dan Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 12:07pm EDT"The Jets havent played in Giants Stadium for 30yrs."
Larry Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 1:30pm EDT"Someone please answer a question for me if you know. I'm a die hard fan always have been for 40 years. I moved to North Carolina 7 yrs ago. What is this going to do to me trying to tickets for a long weekend once or twice a year as in the past?"
NJPhones Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 2:32pm EDT"I am sure that nobody wants to point out that PLS's are an investment, and that their value has traditionally risen-more than double in some stadiums, tenfold in other markets. Fans are naive to think that there would not be PSL's in a new stadium, owners would be naive not to expect an outcry. Maybe this will reduce the number of Patriot fans at home games. Don't shoot the messenger folks."
JETS!#!# Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 4:30pm EDT"This is retarded. How will the average die hard afford to pay 20 grand a seat, even over a couple yrs. Maybe they should just bump up the prices, which they're gonna do anyway don't be fooled. It figures for me, I've been waiting 12 yrs and just got my tickets this yr...might be my last."
MikeMc Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 4:39pm EDT"I renewed my tickets this year but it will be my last. I would have paid the PSL if they got the west side deal done or a queens locale, just can't pay the parking the tolls and now the gas to go to N.J. its an all day ordeal now. I'll probably catch one game a year whenever I can score a ticket, sad eh? Good for you Jersey, I'll be in front of the big screen next year.Later from eastern long Isl."
Tom Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 4:40pm EDT"The New Jersey Jets should have there own stadium in New York and maybe then it would be more palatable to the Jets Fan then sharing the expenses of N J Giants Stadium. This is yet another slap in the face."
steve Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 5:56pm EDT"just about every franchise, even including some not fully privately financed have used PSL's. I'll wait and see what the Jets plan is but if it's similar to that of the Giants in which more than half the joint involves a one time payment of 1000 bucks, it's not that much of a problem. I don't really care if Donald Trump in the coaches club seats or some other suit has to pay 20000"
Chilly Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 7:58pm EDT"Unbelievable!! It's bad enough that parking and the price of a beer is ridiculous, now a PSL?! I have 4 seats and cannot expect my wife to say "OK" to right out a $20K check plus the season rates just to say J-E-T-S! I've only had seasons for 4 years after waiting 12. Remember the $50 waitlist fee.......that now seems like a good deal!! Good bye Jets and good luck w/ corporate! "
Drew Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 9:22pm EDT"I know I am in the minority but the teams can do what they want. This PSL is not a new idea. Other franchises have pulled this and "suprise" they sell out every game. If fans do not want to pay there will be 50 people lining up behind them to take their seats. Everyone should stop complaining and pay or get out of the way. All I care about is winning a damn Super Bowl. "
Dunnie Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 10:00pm EDT"I bet you will see the average price of a JETS ticket in the lower bowl go for $500-$1000 ... just check Cowboy ticket prices to confirm this ... they are the poster children for PSLs. Probably a lot more than that since our PSLs will probably be higher due to inflation. Owners will want to mitigate their PSL costs thru astronomical scalping on Stubhub."
Anonymous Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 11:16pm EDT"what is wrong with the stadium they have now? Why must everything be state of the art these days? People who have paid for PSLs for the current stadium shouldnt be paying PSLs again for the new stadium. Jets fans have given all their support even when the jets give the fans losing seasons. How much the fans put in doesnt equal the return of the jets in my opinion. Win another superbowl b4 uping $."
jcxg Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 11:27pm EDT"This is not a Franchise worth any PSL, sorry. It will soon be 40 years since an appearance in the Super Bowl..you can keep the tickets!"
Alan Said:
Fri, July 18, 2008 - 11:49pm EDT"I have been a season ticket holder for the Jets for 43 years. If I invest in PSL's do I get first right of ticket refusal for any other event that goes on in stadium i.e. concert, college games etc. I would think this should be a benefit for PSL holders since their money was used to build stadium?"
Kevin B Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 5:23am EDT"Season ticket holders since 1974. I have two seats and other family members have three seats. We suffered through the eighty's and never received a refund for the !@#@! that the jets organization put on the field. Mangenius has changed nothing. Great comment by another "fan"- PSL "Please Stop Losing" $10,000 for two seats and rip-off ticket prices, and who knows what parking and gas will cost"
Paul Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 8:51am EDT"Hey Steve, are you serious? First all, currently a small number of franchises have resorted to mandating their devoted fan base to purchasing these self serving licenses. More importantly, where is the justification in demanding the fans to subsidize the cost of a new stadium. We don't even need a new stadium. Where is the benefit? No dome...the facilty is still the swamps of Jersey. "
joe24 Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 8:59am EDT"WAITED 12 YEARS FOR THEASE SEATS, I WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE TO MY SONS TO REMEMBER OUR TIMES TOGETHER,BUT ALL I CAN NOW GIVE IS A LEGACY OF LIES, DECEIT AND CORPORATE GREED JUST A GREAT WAY TO DEVELOP YOUNG JET FANS!!!! WHEN THE SUITS SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND THE PLACE IS HALF EMPTY ON A COLD SUNDAY, YOU WILL RUE THE DAY WHEN YOU SAID " HEY,LETS BUILD A NEW STADIUM. GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!"
Anonymous Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 10:44am EDT"If you want state of the art, just add wind power or solar panels to the current stadium, there is nothing wrong with it. Another thing, why arent non-football related things that will use the stadium not contributing to the costs? i dont know if you guys pay for the fireworks, but if you STOP that should save you at least a couple of thousands dollars. Have a fund raiser for it instead of PSLs."
Leo Torre Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 10:45am EDT"The Giant fans got their bad news and soon we will get ours. I am going to move my seats that are in sec 109 to a more affordable location if possible. The best thing that could happen is everyone either request to move higher or just drop the tickets all together. I think I would miss the tailgate party the most because that has been the highlight for far too many years with this team."
LT From LI Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:06am EDT"How did the Pats manage to build a new stadium for $400 mil and not charge PSL's? I guess they really are a winning organization off the field too! I just wish my team could win once more in my lifetime. My dad went to the SB in 69 and said I was too young at 14 to go. He said I could go to the next one. Will there ever be another one?"
Dunnie Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:12am EDT"Heres a headline for all you die hards. The JETS have spent the same amount of time in NJ as they had in NY. I really take offense to the hatred of NJ from the old time NY fans. Like its our fault ?? I think the team should be called the NJ Jets now that their entire operations will be in the Garden State. Anyway .. just venting."
c Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:48am EDT"Randy do you submit these comments to the jets organization? you really should bc i think the jets dont really understand the common fan and only think through their wallets."
Randy Lange Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 1:11pm EDT"All approved comments go up on the organization's Website, c, where everyone in the organization can read them."
Leslie SImpson Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 12:53pm EDT"It is heartbreaking that as a result of the proposed PSL's my siblings and I will be giving up seats that have been in our family since the days of the NY Titans. These were my father's seats and my children and nieces and nephews are third generation Jet fans. Unfortunately they will end up in the hands of the wealthy and leave the loyal and faithful locked out of the stadium. Shame on you!!!"
LT From LI Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 1:26pm EDT"Dunnie You think the name should be NJ Jets. So do I. I don't think the Jets should be permitted to use the name NY because like everything else in NJ they stink!"
Leo Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 1:32pm EDT"The PSL is just a way for all the rich people that now want tickets and don't want to wait on the waiting list to get tickets. It will also help turn football games in to tennis matches where you can only clap after play is done. So much for the 12 man. What kind of home field advantage will that be?"
joe barrella Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 2:22pm EDT"$1600 for 2 seats,$ 6.50 for a beer.been to the games when they were the titans still there now. come on give us fans a break. if the nfl mandates the quick debt repayment, let the nfl pay it down. without the fans,the loyal everyday working bums,there would be no nfl! corporations are not fans. find another way please!!!!!!"
NEIL Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 2:51pm EDT"IVE BEEN A JET FAN FOREVER AND A BEEN GOIN TO JET GAMES FOREVER TOO TO SEE THIS PSL GO THRU IS A REAL INSULT TO THE REAL DIE HARD JET FANS WHO EDURED COLD SNOW RAIN AND 1 - 15 SESONS . I HOPE THE JETS GET A HALF A HOUSE BECAUSE MOST DIE HARD JET FANS ARE WORKIN PEOPLE WHO WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE PSL I KNOW I CANT . TAILGATING WILL BECOME A THINK OF THE PAST I HOPE JETS READ ALL THSES BLOGS "
MikeMc Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 3:59pm EDT"Guys take my advice, a longtime season ticket holder that has been PSL'd out of his seats. Let it go , the jets are a N.J. team now, big deal their still my team. Going to a jet game now will be like an event, like a broadway show. The wealthy or the addicted can go often as for me I'll go to Hofstra or Stonybrook games where parking is free and the tickets are 10 bucks, watch the Jets on TV."
Long Island Fan Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 5:09pm EDT"Maybe I should sell my seats to the highest bidder as long as they r a fan of the visiting team. I know New England fans would love to get seats like mine to see their team in NJ. Afterall the Jets may as well get used to playing without a home field advantage now because they will be doing it starting in 2010."
JOHNJET12 Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 7:07pm EDT"YOU KNEW IT WAS COMING.I WAS HOPEING THE JETS WOULD HAVE A HEART MEANING (WOODY) AND SAY NO IM NOT GOING TO CHARGE THESE FANS WHO HAVE BEEN WITH US THROUGH THICK AND THIN! THANKS FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Shawn Said:
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:19pm EDT"My family has had tickets for over 30 years, we have been to most of the games over those years. Most likely we will no longer have tickets when the new PSL is put in place. Going to a game will never be the same. You will not see a true die hard fan in the house...it will be all corporate want to be's buying tickets and trying to figure out what team the Jets are and what a 3-4 defense is. "
Extackle Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 1:19am EDT"This just confirms what we all knew deep down inside all along. To call the Jets a Mickey Mouse organization is an insult to Mickey Mouse. It personifies the greed. You know, if you just listen to the rhetoric, the organization would have you believe they are coming off three consecutive Super Bowls instead of a 4-12 season. Lets celebrate the 40th aniv. of our last championship with a 200%inc"
Extackle Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 1:30am EDT"I agree with most of you. It is a slap in the face. And let's not kid ourselves. This team is not the Giants. I am 41 and have been going to games since I was 5. This fan base is blue collar. How are they going to afford it? You think the PSL is going to sell for more money? Ever try selling a Jets ticket in November when the are 4-8? Good luck. They should pay us $5000 per seat to attend"
Extackle Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 1:33am EDT"By the way, how old is New England's stadium? I can't stand Bob Kraft, but you have to admire that he built his without PSLs. Also, who is over budget by 60% (600 MM) and gets to keep their job unless they are an NFL owner?"
Extackle Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 1:37am EDT"Also, the PSL doesn't just give you the right to buy the ticket, it OBLIGATES you to buy it. Try saying I don't want them this season, you will lose your PSL..The Jets talk about ownership. What happens when the build the next stadium in 25 years and they hit you up again. Oh, wait, I thought I owned my seat. Yeah, right. What a loser franchise. I can't believe I root for this team."
16GMike Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:09am EDT"The fact that this organization hasn't given us the information about PSL's is just another example of the JETS looking like they really don't know what they're doing. Why the different timeline from the Giants Woody? Trying to gauge fan reaction to adjust up? Down? Shady!"
JOEY T Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:16am EDT"This move just reinforces the fact that ownership does not care about the fans. This is about money and money only. To the owners its all about business, as long as the the seats are full they do not care who is sitting in them. Chalk up another victory for the wealthy. We might see a superbowl by 2069 the mark of a century. Good Luck Mr. Johnson"
joe b Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:32am EDT"Do you think this is the final word from the jets organization. Don't be surprised if they do the same thing the Yankees did. Get thier own network and charge a fee through pay TV. Eventually no pro sports will be free. The fan will pay a price for everything including team websites on the internet. As long as there are corporate sponsors the little man (loyal fan) will be shut out."
joe b Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:41am EDT"I love the JETS team. But I hate the organization from the top right down to the head coach. They talk to the fans like we are in the kindergarden. Everything is TOP-SECRET !!!!!!!!!"
Mark Bundgaard Hansen Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:57am EDT"This is indeed sad sad times! For the first time ever I'm actually glad that I'm not a Jets season ticket holder! These PSLs are a disgrace and I really hope that Mr. Johnson realizes that what he is doing right now is hurting the loyal Jets fanbase that have supported the team through thick and thin... sad sad times indeed! "
Mike of New Jersey Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 10:45am EDT"I have been a season ticket from the Shea days, now it looks like I'm being told to get lost. I got to see (4) home playoff games in over 25 years and yet continue to support the team until now? At least make the PSL's reasonable to give us a chance. "
Ed Ranieri Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 3:21pm EDT"I have been a season ticket holder since 88. This PSL concept is a disgrace, especially when considering the stadium is shared. Another large screen DTV with a weekly catered buffet looks like a much better option. Thank you Woody."
Andrew Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 3:56pm EDT"18 years of season tickets and it looks like no more for me. it would make me sick to put another penny into the pockets of owners like woddy johnson or the tisch family. just a couple of weeks ago the ny observer reported that: “giants co-owner jonathan tisch has gone to contract on a $40 million, upper east side co-op" nice timing while reaching into fans pockets to pay for your stadium."
Brian of Bennington Vt. Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 6:10pm EDT"My father had these season tickets since the polo grounds and I remember going to see the jets when there looked like nobody esle was there . and now I will have to give my seats that my dad willed to me away due to the fact of GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Andrew Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 6:21pm EDT"They have to STOP using the 1.6 billion figure because it is actually only 800 million per team. They will also get the ads, stadium name rights, the amount they get for tickets, events that will be at the stadium, etc. I think I rather spend the money on something more important and watch the game with my entire family and friends in front of my 62 inch HDTV at home."
Wes Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 7:24pm EDT"This is very simple.... The Demand > The Supply. Protest it outside the stadium, it doesn't really matter, your tickets will just be sold to the next guy or company."
sadfan Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 7:42pm EDT"what a disgrace-I have been going to games for 30+ years and this is my reward for being a loyal fan-the jets should be embarrassed to charge anything-they should actually be giving me money back after some of the god awful football they have played before my eyes. I think it would be great if all tickets holders refused to pay anything"
frank klein Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 8:30pm EDT"thats funny that the jets are going to let everybody know about PSLs after the survey of season ticket holders i have season tickets for the last 20 years and received no survey. but my answer would be stick it where the sun don't shine"
ss Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:25pm EDT"Well...did anyone expect the Jets to come back and say, "well, we know you, our loyal, long suffering fans have stuck by us during thick and thin, so we're not going to implement PSL's". Their goal of having corporate types instead of true fans will soon come true resulting in the quietest stadium in the nfl"
michael gardini Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 10:09pm EDT"My father has had these tickets since 1967. i can not belive you will do this to all of the jet fans. Its not like we have been winning all these years. Its a sad day in new york jet history that you will lose so many fans because of creed. Now im sorry i cant take my kids to the games. "
Stan Fischer Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 10:40pm EDT"For those fans complaining about the lack of notification of what the Jets are doing. The Giants fans are already having to put up their money. We still have ours until the end of August. Also, this just reminds this 45-year season ticket holder that the Jets are like any other business--they exist to make money!!!"
Anonymous Said:
Sun, July 20, 2008 - 11:32pm EDT"being a season ticket holder for the past eight years, the idea of paying more to just end the season is rather "silly" why would anyone want to pay more to see the jets when stub hub can't sell jets tickets? I can't even give my tickets away last season. Managemnent wants us to pay more? Right "
Duce Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 12:29am EDT"The Jets need to realize that these PSL's can be financed by anyone, not just the fans that go to the Jets games! Why not offer the PSL's to the general public, even worldwide? Interested parties might want to invest in these licences....why single out the fans on paying this extra $$? Makes no sense, considering it isn't even a bond indebtenture. There is no guarantee these can be resold! "
Another Hurt Fan Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 10:35am EDT"This is yet another slap in the face by an organization that has not produced a Super Bowl win…even an appearance in decades. We as loyal fans have stood by the organization to help keep it one of sport’s most valued entities and have received nothing but lies and insults. Thanks for doing everything in your power to hurt the fans. PS…Let me guess Parking is going up next year too! "
steves family Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 10:58am EDT"Please woody, try - try to understand the reality of the common familys living expenses. We go to work everyday to support ouf familys best we can . Your company offers us an escape to our everday responsbilty on sundays. We are not ignorant and understand the economics of your company, but there must be away to compromsie your commitment to the NFL and ,the finacial burden you are asking of us"
james herman Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 11:53am EDT"If the city and the jets were going to build a stadium in queens as the city suggested instead of the west side stadium would there still be a psl. I don't think so. So the giants and jets will share in the revenue from not only football but all the events that will take place in the new meadowlands. Why should we have to pay so someone can see billy joel etc. etc. Ticket holder since 1969"
James Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 11:57am EDT"Everyone is against spending money for a PSL. As a buyer for 35 years, I don't want to either. But let's face it. It's a business and people want to go to the games. The Jets are sold out every year. They will get the money somehow. I'd like to know if the PSL gives me the right to sell my tickets for any price I want. When the Jets are good, you can get good money for your seats. "
Jim Herman Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 12:02pm EDT"I have been a season ticket holder for 39 years. Not that it would matter but where is my survey? I guess 39 years does not matter. Since the jets and giants will share in the revenue of the new stadium and we the season ticket holders will pay for 1/3 of the stadium shouldn't we get first dibs on concerts etc. etc. sine our psl will pay for a good part of the stadium. I doubt you will print "
Jeff Hyatt Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 1:12pm EDT"So the stadium planning committee misbudgets and the faithful season ticket holders have to pick up the slack? I never thought they'd stoop so low as to pull a PSL campaign like this. Charging $50 to be on the waiting list was also pure genius. When will we Jets fans wake up and see that the future just, like, isn't there? "
dan Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 2:12pm EDT"PSL's!! Who should we (long time season ticket holders) be writing our concern letters to? BTW - I never got a survey which asked about PSL's either....and my email address is accurate....."
bob Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 2:48pm EDT"section 112 row 35 seat 19 to the highest bidder.i will not be raped by a lack luster organization that i have supported my entire life.my ticket was originally owned by my grandparents who have been there since the titans.shame on the nfl for allowing psl's in the first place."
Ken Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 3:20pm EDT"The PSL concept is one of the most Ingenius inventions of the 21st Century. Pay money for the right to pay money. who ever came up with this should be commended for figuring out a way to get blood from a stone, and then beaten with a stick. I"
Bill Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 4:52pm EDT"The audacity to have PSL's is beyond desciption, First, let's start with the lie that the team is giving us about the cost of the stadium. Technically, they are correct, the stadium is costing $1.3 billion, but they neglect to say that it is being shared by two teams, therefore the Jets cost is $650 million. Second, if I am expected to pay for this, they should consult with me about the design. "
Bill Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 4:55pm EDT"Nice how they limit the amount you can say. So much for freedom of speech. I suggest that we sell out PSL's to the Patriots and Dolphins! #0 years of being a season ticket holder,,,you can have my tickets back now(refund my money of course)"
Anonymous Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 5:03pm EDT"This is a disgrace. whats next, mangini buys a house but i gotta pay the mortgage? I will never again spend a penny of my hard earned money on anything related to this organization. I hope these bow tied geeks enjoy our seats. Don't forget your fur coats, it gets a little nippy. Ask the players to donate a couple thousand outta their million dollar checks, give the fans back a little something."
joe b Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 5:08pm EDT"We can do all the complaining we want. But this stuff is just falling on DEAF EARS. Does anyone really think the Jet Organization cares about us. If you do, you are living in a dream world. This is a money hungry greedy organization. The rich get richer and the loyal fan pays. BOYCOTT THIS PRESEASON COMPLETELY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
disappointed in jets Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 5:42pm EDT"Maybe the Jets should just table this whole PSL idea until they do more on the field then they promise every year! As much as people hate the Patriots you have to admit they do right by their fans! Why weren't the PSLs reasonably priced for the loyal fan considering 2 teams are sharing the stadium in one of the biggest NFL markets? I think the Jets new nickname should be Gang Greed!"
MikeMc Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 5:55pm EDT"BOB ,section 112 row 35 to the highest bidder is what you said. You are just as bad as the front office trying to maximize its profit, or the jet fan that sells his ticket for 5x the value to a patriots fan. I'm not on the side of the organization here but my point is the jets owe all of us nothing , its capitalism at its best ,supply and demand. It was expected and all of us would do the same."
scooter Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 6:36pm EDT"Sad day in our family as we have had jet tickets for over 30 years and now are facing $80,000 in PSL fees for four tix. Blue collar people will be extinct in a couple of years. So when this goes through I retire my tix, my jersey, and become a college football fan"
NJScooter Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 9:19pm EDT"Jet season ticket holders participate in many charitable events every season (toy & food drives, contributing to Woody's pet charities) so why not a little "corporate charity" by means of a PSL? This is horrible because 2 teams/1 stadium was supposed to cut costs! Again, the average fan pays for corporate stupidity and greed. If the stadium debt is paid, do I get my money back if I don't sell?"
Verlon Biggs Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 9:54pm EDT"One New Stadium ... No Dome ... No NY Home ... 2 teams from the NFL ... and 2 sets of PSL's. Just dosen't add up for the fans but adds up just fine for the Jersey Jets and Jersey Giants. Good luck with the new stadium ... if you pay the PSL you have no right to complain. If you cannot afford it, drop the tickets and watch on TV like us common-folk do!"
ExLI Said:
Mon, July 21, 2008 - 10:09pm EDT"TV is a nice alternative to PSL's. "
Billyblaze Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 1:02am EDT"$20K a seat for a PSL & $700 a ticket per game ($7K a year per seat). Does anyone here know a single jet fan that would pay that? Of course not, but than again the new stadium is not for the fans. The Jets have an opportunity in August to show they care and greatly reduce the prices they are going to charge for PSL. Will they? Of course not. "
jh Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 10:36am EDT"Just wondering about the parking situation at the new stadium. With all the limos parking at the stadium will there be room for my saturn????????"
BK Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 11:09am EDT"I see PSL's as an investment opportunity. As Jets fans, we'd be "buying low" (i.e. Jets are doing horrible) 5 years from now, if the organization has turned things around, we may be able to double or triple our money if we sell the seats. Am I wrong here??"
BC Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 11:49am EDT"If you are a fan you are not looking for an investment. You are looking for a team that will do well and reward you for all the years you paid for tickets I was at the final game when they finished 1-15.If "investors" buy the seats they will sell game tickets to fans of the visiting team. So much for home field advantage. Woody, keep the PSL reasonable so true Jets fans can go to the games."
Chris Cook Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 12:06pm EDT"I am for the PSL's, its an investment and I enjoy watching the Jets each year. The increase will be worth it and being at a new stadium is a privilidge. Fans who are against this should wake up and realize that increases happens and if you can''t afford it let the ones who can and go watch it on TV. I've been a Jets fan and will pay anything to go and see them..."
TBC Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 12:09pm EDT"I'll never understand why (if they were going to partner up with the Gints) they didn't partner up on the WSS or somewhere else in NEW YORK. As for me, season ticket holder since Shea, I'm officially gone as a fan after this year. The Gas, tolls, traffic, parking, perennially crappy team, future secured as the Giants step-child, now PSL's and moving camp to Jersey as well. This LI'er says adios"
Was a Fan Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 1:08pm EDT"NO PSL its unreasonable to think people can afford these fees for seats how are you going sell seats when giant fans buy the same seats double dipping i thought the Jets were a fan friendly organization. they where when Leon owned them. "
Michael D Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 1:49pm EDT"I am a new ticket holder for the '08 season, and hoped to bring my daughters to games for years to come. Although I am fortunate enough to be able to pay for 4 PSLs, I am not enough of a masochist to pay $1,000+ for that "privilege." The idea of PSLs as an "investment" is silly -- that's what my 401(k) is for, and for the sake of comfort in my old age, I hope I have better investment options. "
Andrew Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 4:30pm EDT"i feel really bad for the people who have had tix for so many years and now cant afford the PSL's, but on the bright side people that were on the waiting list may actually get a seat and i can upgrade my seat."
Paul Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 8:39pm EDT"Lets stop the charade......the Jets are studying PSL's as an option....give me a break......its a done deal.......the only decision is how much double dipping can the Jets and Giants justify?"
Joe Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 8:56pm EDT"I can barley afford my season tix as it is and I will not be able to afford a PSL. Well, the NLF held out the longest but it has now become corporate. If the jets dont want TRUE FANS at the games that is their problem. See how loud some corporate guy cheers for the team. HIs boss will probabally throw him tickets and he will spend more time on his blackberry than watching the game. Its sad"
jb Said:
Tue, July 22, 2008 - 8:59pm EDT"well the coporate people who will glam the tickets no one can afford will give these tickets to their miami customers, raider customers whoever and the green shirts will be sitting home unbelievable hess would never have done this"
Tom Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 7:42am EDT"We keep hearing about how much debt the team will have after building this new stadium. Yes, they will have a loan to pay off but they will also own a new stadium. Why does the team think they get to pay off this loan right away with PSL's? Make payments like the rest of us have to do. If I took out a loan to buy a house and rented a room, I couldn't charge the cost of the loan in one year's rent."
Barney Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 10:53am EDT"I've been waiting over 40 years for us to have our own home...We are still sharing a stadium, not putting a roof over it, not building it in NY, and I'm asked to pay for it. I truly mess Mr. Leon Hess. PS Notice how the team spent money on free agents this year, just before they asked for PSL's."
Jeff Hyatt Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:17am EDT"They say the reason they need PSLs is because they have to pay for the stadium faster than they'd originally thought. Well, then, treat the PSLs like bonds... use them to pay for the stadium, then pay the money from the PSLs back to those who bought them over time. Stadium paid for, ticket holders reimbursed, everyone (sort of) happy. "
joe b Said:
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:28am EDT"Check the column to the right. You can join the WAIT LIST right away and there is no charge. That's right FREE to the corporations that will glam up all the seats they can. Another slap in the face to the fan who laid out $50.00 previously. Welcome to the NY Jets, Corporate America. There back-up plan is in effect. "
Leo Said:
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:42pm EDT"Gee we can look at the psl's as an investment? I would think it would make good sound business sense if only the NJ Jets had a great past and a great future. But how many years can we wait for them to be good? I don't think once every 40yrs is too much, do you?"
Chris Cook Jr. Said:
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:06am EDT"My belief is what happens if the team leaves the State, for example the Cleveland Browns, they moved out of the City of Cleveland and left them with no Football team. Does the season ticket holder who paid for PSL now have worthless tickets? Also, if the Giants and Jets are doing PSL's is the fan now a owner of 50% of the seat? You figure that both teams are charging PSL's to build the stadium.."
Chris Cook Sr. Said:
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:38am EDT"Lets see is PSL’s worth it? Gas cost is high, not guaranteed a parking spot at the new stadium, have to deal with bumper-to-bumper traffic, risk my car to be dented or lose my review mirror getting knocked off by idiots in the parking lot playing football, season tickets going up 2-3 times face value, Jets aren’t a good team year-after-year, I just got a 1600 on my SAT....."
JC Said:
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:11pm EDT"I've been a Jets fan all my life & I waited about 8+ years to finally get my season tickets this year. I fear that I will not be able to take my son to future games due to PSLs. "
PhilA. Said:
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:16pm EDT"Being a lifelong Jets fan and a season ticket, holder my first reaction to this larceny was for the NYJ to shove their tickets; however, not knowing the details... I must be fair... If I can unbolt and take the seats I supposedly would own from this PSL scheme, after each game, then I'll gladly pay the ransom,bribe or whatever else you care to call this outrage."
JEEETS Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 2:03am EDT"PSL- Personal Seat License. So when a concert I want to see comes to the stadium my 6'2 275lb body will get to sit on the Giant fans lap that also owns "my" seat???"
Leo Said:
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:45pm EDT"I have one question. In 30 yrs when they decide that they need ANOTHER new stadium are they going to charge ANOTHER PSL? Also, are they going to tell me how much my season tix will cost in 09 and 2010 so I know how much they are going to charge for everything? "
Christine Cook Said:
Thu, July 31, 2008 - 6:46am EDT"My husband and my illegitimate son, two losers, were laid off from their jobs for almost a year and won't relinquish their season tickets and don't have a clue how these mensa boys are going to pay PSL's & ticket increase for the new stadium? They believe Joe Namath & Matt Snell are returning? They thought the NY Jets meant special planes that land in JFK? PSL or Idiots? "
Linda Said:
Thu, July 31, 2008 - 4:33pm EDT"My husband has been a loyal fan since the team played at the Polo Grounds as the Titans. We have gone together to games for 38 years. First we were only able to get standing room tickets at Shea, then bleacher seats at the open end of the stadium. We have owned season tickets for 31 yrs & have been loyal fans through thick and thin! PSLs are the way our loyalty is repaid? THIS IS SHAMEFUL! "
Herb Hanrahan Said:
Mon, August 11, 2008 - 5:57pm EDT"I have been a loyal Jet Fan for years and a season ticket holder for over16 years, In regard to the PSLs I never received any survey and I think most of your fans will be priced out, to leave only corporate seats. What a SHAME!!"
Steven Kern Said:
Mon, August 11, 2008 - 9:56pm EDT"I am organizing a Public Rally about the Personal Seat License policy prior to the Jets Preseason Game on Saturday, 8/23 at 4pm in the Giants Stadium parking lot to the east of the racetrack. Details can be found at www.pslrally.com Fans of both teams can sign up to speak at the rally, give written or video feed back and suggested alternatives to the policy. Let your voices be heard. "
Tony Said:
Thu, August 14, 2008 - 9:02am EDT"I would like to tell Randy what I really think about PSLs, but it seems that comments which are too critical of the New York Jets management for deciding to implement this shakedown scheme are censored! Let's just say that I am very much against PSLs, and feel that they are just another way to price the "average" fan out of seeing the games in person!"
Brian Said:
Fri, August 22, 2008 - 1:47pm EDT"I think this PSL program is unnecessary. It eliminates the season ticket holders that are the core of the Jet's fan base. If the 15+ year ticket holders don't like the move, I suggest the New York Jets listen to their most loyal fans. Season tickets shouldn't go to the highest bidder; they are already a financial committment many fans take every year and should be available to these great fans."
Leo Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 3:37pm EDT"Well Woody did it again! Why does he charge $15k for what the Giants are charging? Greed thats it! Sure no charge for the upperbowl but even there he is charging more for tix than the Giants. I said it before and I stand by it. Too bad Leon wasnt still here, we would be back in NY and without a PSL."
Susan Said:
Tue, August 26, 2008 - 3:56pm EDT"Are you Crazy, I have to pay $15,000 plus $150 per game to see the Jets."
Roger Said:
Fri, September 5, 2008 - 10:35am EDT"After supporting one of the weakest franchises for over 40 years and comming off a 4/12 season, this organization has gall...I guess greed has no boundries. As much as I am excited by Farve, tis is a gimmik to mask this travesty. I hope Jets fans in mass dump their ticket and the NFL and support the college game."
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Tim Said:
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 10:28pm EDT"I dont think fans should have to doPSLs!I,m against it!!"