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File Under: Jake Long, Mock Draft, Vernon Gholston, Quentin Groves
01/28 — We’ll have the Super Bowl covered with Randy having just touched down in Arizona this afternoon, but last week’s Senior Bowl led us to think more about April’s NFL Draft. The Jets, who own a selection in each of the seven rounds, still have plenty of time for analysis.
The Combine is a few weeks out and colleges haven’t begun to host pro days. Free agency will heat up in late February and early March, so a lot is going to happen between now and draft weekend. Not to be deterred, though, are the prognosticators.
With the Jets’ sixth overall selection, many have predicted the Jets will take Ohio State DE Vernon Gholston. That list includes ESPN’s pundit pair of Todd McShay and Mel Kiper as well as Chris Steuber, a Scout.com draft analyst.
Gholston’s an underclassman who declared himself eligible after a dominating junior campaign. His 14 sacks were an Ohio State record and he totaled exactly half of that number against two of his toughest opponents in Wisconsin (four) and Michigan (three).
"I go out there and try to play hard within the scheme of the defense," he said this season. "I try to play with my teammates and win games. That's most important to me. Whether I have 13 sacks or one sack, if we win every game I am happy."
The 6’4”, 260-pounder, who was named the Big Ten’s defensive lineman of the year, is an imposing figure who played end in college. But according to McShay, “He would be an excellent addition at rush linebacker for a Jets defense that is in need of some perimeter heat out of its 3-4 front.”
"He looks like a bodybuilder and he runs like a sprinter," said Ohio State T Kirk Barton of Gholston. "That's why he gives so many tackles trouble. He has two really good moves that are hard to block no matter who you are. ... He's so strong that if you try and put an arm on him, he might break your arm chopping it down."
In Don Banks' latest mock, the CNNSI.com reporter had Auburn DE Quentin Groves pegged for the Green & White. Groves was limited in ’07 due to a foot injury (three dislocated toes), yet still registered three sacks, seven tackles behind the line of scrimmage and 23 QB hurries.
Groves’ 26 career sacks tied the school record and he was not discouraged when Tigers head coach Tommy Tuberville moved him to strongside linebacker in order to help the team.
"To tell you the truth, I kind of like it," he said. "It's a lot more fun. You get to do a lot more things. It appeals to more of the high art of the defensive positions.”
Frank Coyle, a draftinsiders.com contributor whose work is featured on Rivals.com, envisions the Jets might go offense early and grab Michigan T Jake Long. The 6’7”, 315-pounder, who was the 11th two-time captain in Michigan history, was voted All-America the past two years and also became just the fifth two-time Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year.
"I can remember in camp running the 'Michigan mile,' and he's up front with the linebackers and running backs and wide receivers. He's a flat athlete," said Wolverines DT Terrance Taylor of Long in a December Detroit Free-Press article. "He's embarrassing [to the other linemen]. On gassers, he's always the first lineman down and back. He's over 300 pounds, he weighs so much and is so big, yet when we run the golfcourse, he's in the top five finishing. He's beating Mike Hart and Mario Manningham — he beats these guys in the mile."
Even further off on the radar is the second round. That didn’t prevent Steuber from projecting the Jets taking Oklahoma State WR Adarius Bowman. We’ll keep a close watch on the mocks as they change in the coming weeks and months.
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Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (20)dougmc Said:
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 6:46pm EDT"It would be tough to pass up on Long even though they need so much help on D.WR in second round is good choice.JETS in '08 ... lets go..."
Ira Said:
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 8:19pm EDT"Eric, Nice article but until the Jets get done with some FA signings anybody can make up Mock Drafts. Wouldn't be shocked if the Jets trade down this year."
Justin Said:
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 11:07pm EDT"I'm personally still hoping the Jets go after, even if they have to trade up, go after Chris Long. This guy is a beast and still managed to get 14 sacks from the Defensive ENd spot in a 3-4 defence. Impressive!!! GO JETS!!!"
wedeker Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 1:59am EDT"How would the Jets get Jake Long ? theres no way he goes past the chiefs. "
keith Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 9:04am EDT"trade PENNINGTON and VILMA for a position player or MORE draft picks.With one of the extra draft picks,either second or third round, use it to draft HENNE from Michigan or BOOTY from U.S.C.If KELLEN isn't the answer(i believe with a little help,he will be)then at least we'll have a solid young QB to take over."
Drew Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 9:47am EDT"My favorite time of year. Who cares about the Super Bowl?? I wish the game was cancelled.... We are in a tough spot this year @ 6. We need a couple of players to light up the combine to make that 6th a valuable pick. Right now there is no difference between the 6th and the 12th. Gholston needs to show up to make us pick him at 6 .By the way Bowman looked horrible at the Senior Bowl. Great job Eric"
Chico Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 11:21am EDT"After this disappointing season, what the Jets do in the offseason is very important to us fans. I have been waiting for a post like this. I want insight to who and what the scouts in the Jets organization are looking for. This article was very informative and useful. Thank You!"
Frank M Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 12:03pm EDT"the Jets need inside help on the Dline as well as a big receiver and an offensive tackle. there are more holes than swiss cheese. And last but not least a QB THAT IS OVER 6' 3. with a big time arm. Front office wise a renovation of the scouting dept. They need to find better players in the rounds after 1 and 2. they do exist and we can fit taller players in our locker room."
Brandon Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 3:47pm EDT"I would be a fan of whatever we do. If we stay and draft a OL i am cool with that.. If draft a DL I am cool with that also. If we trade out and get more picks thats cool also. Point is we need help in multiple areas. As long as we dont draft a TE, K, or Punter I am cool with whatever we take. "
Ablity Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 4:52pm EDT"i think we can get two players in this draft in the first round we need to trade Viliam to the PATS for their 7th oick in the draft, all their LBs are old and we dont need Jon anymore so they may give us that pick and i wolud like us to trade eirc barton for bobby carpenter MLB from cowboys a first round pick that is only a ST team player but he is a young LB with skill. fast and yound that's JETS"
Sean Said:
Tue, January 29, 2008 - 7:56pm EDT"Here's what the Jets need to do: 1.) Hold on to Vilma. He could have a big year next to Harris. 2.) Trade Dewayne Robertson. Great 4-3 DT, but does not as a 3-4 NT 3.) Find a true NT in free agency 4.) Waive or trade Pennington. Great leader, but no arm 5.) Draft Gholston in the 1st. Guy reminds me alot of Demarcus Ware coming out of Troy. Oh, and Ablity, his name is Vilma!!"
Tom Spicer Said:
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 9:34am EDT"1 Glen Dorsey DT LSU Miami 2 Jake Long OT MIC Rams 3 McFadden RB ARK Atl 4 Chris Long DE VIR Oak 5 Vernon Gholston DE OSU KC 6 Quentin Groves DE AUB NYJ unless someone takes a QB we will do no better than this. I know you play to win the game but the win over the KC hurt us we had the 3rd pick now we are at 6. "
Eric Said:
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 10:36am EDT"Come on everybody, lets stop talking about trading Vilma like he means nothingto the team. If it happens it happens but it seems like to many out their are wanting to see it happen. I hope we can fid a way to move him and play him on our defense."
andrew Said:
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:03am EDT"if the jets draft a WR i am gona go crazy, we need to either trade the pick or draft matt ryan"
BIG Said:
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 4:54pm EDT"Trading Vilma is a huge mistake and "Ability" obviously has no idea what he is talking about. The Jets should keep him, take Vernon Gholston, Jake Long or Chris Long depending on who's available. I think they should draft Colt Brennan in the 3rd or 4th round as well or package someone on the roster and a 3rd and 4th for Brady Quinn. IF VILMA GETS TRADE TANNENBAUM SHOULD BE FIRED "
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS Said:
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 10:28am EDT"I think the jets need to pick up asante samuel, draft gholston and sign michael turner from the chargers"
Bob Said:
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 11:59am EDT"Trading Vilma is not out of the question, it is what you can get in return. Trading him just for the sake of trading him would be foolish however if you are in a position to receive a quality pick(s) in what is considered a strong draft or a player that fills a need, then do so - you should be hesitant to move him until you can surround him with the proper personnel."
J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS Said:
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 12:02pm EDT"i think the jets need to grab asante samuel and michael turner and then draft vernon gholston and a qb(brenan) latrer in the draft"
Row Said:
Thu, January 31, 2008 - 9:20pm EDT"There is no way I will accept a draft at the QB position. There is no reason to waste a pick on a QB so we can have exactly the same season again. We all know who the most talented WR is and who the OL free agents are. Gholston is NOT a fit for the 3-4 I believe that, even though he's a talented player. "
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Michael Said:
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 6:08pm EDT"thats a good article Eric.Keep them coming. Jets fan for life,Michael"
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