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12/16 — There was no joy in the Jets' Gillette Stadium locker room after their 20-10 defeat by the undefeated Patriots in the rain and surrounded by the morning's snow. As Chad Pennington said, "I don't think you ever prove a point by losing."
So call it cold comfort. The Jets weren't a happy bunch, but they came as close as all but Baltimore and Philadelphia in trying to hang that first L on the Pats.
In fact, the ring metaphor was heard a few times in the defensive end of the long rectangular dressing room.
"It stinks that we lost," LB Eric Barton said, 'but I think we showed a lot of character. Everyone fought the whole game against a very good opponent."
"We're a team with a lot of heart and a lot of pride," fellow 'backer Victor Hobson said. "We knew we were going to come out, fight hard and play good football."
Yes, the defense did. The Patriots were held to season lows in total yardage (265), net passing yardage (134), first downs (16). The team that was threatening to set the all-time NFL record for most points per game in a season (they came in with a 38.7 average) was held to its lowest point total of the season.
The Patriots, who scored at least three offensive touchdowns in every one of their previous 13 games, were held to one on this day, and that only to cap a 3-yard drive after a blocked punt.
Did the weather have something to do with keeping things close? It surely did, but pundits who knew that rain, snow and wind would hit this game still made predictions such as 55-3, Patriots, and those who guessed scores of 70-0 and 100-0 earlier in the week were just begging to look bad.
To the defenders' credit, most let the pregame gloom-and-doom hype roll off their backs.
"That's probably why they're not out there on the field," Hobson said of those who predicted a rout of Biblical proportions. "But that's their job. You can't fault them for that. We knew what we came here to do, and that was to play good, hardnosed Jets football."
"Obviously, we want to win," Bowens said. "Everybody who said the pointspread was 60 points or whatever, we were a little ticked off about that. I think we showed a lot today, how capable we can be as a team when we're all playing together. I think it also showed how our season's gone. We had some mental mistakes, some turnovers."
The offense will take the heat for a lot of those problems. Because like the Patriots' offense, the Jets offense struggled. Some of it was the insertion of Chad Pennington and Brad Smith into the game early on after Kellen Clemens was injured on his only pass of the game, some by the running game being almost non-existent (except for Leon Washington's 49-yard option run), some on a pair of catchable balls that Justin McCareins didn't catch, some on the overall shortcomings on third down (3-for-14 conversions) and in the red zone (no TDs on four opportunities).
"It's one thing to be successful on first down and second down," Pennington said, "but third down and the red zone, that's where you make your money. We didn't make enough."
McCareins was reserved afterwards. Asked about his touchdown catch that was overturned on replay challenge when it was determined he juggled the ball and didn't get both feet inbounds to establish possession, he said the ball was slippery.
"I was thinking it could go either way," McCareins said of watching the replay on the stadium scoreboard while the review was taking place. "I thought I had it. Obviously not. ... We were playing a great team. I missed opportunities today to make it a tight ballgame. Can't miss opportunities."
And that's how WR Jerricho Cotchery saw it as well.
"Guys took it on themselves, they tried to make a statement on their own," Cotchery said. "We had a good game plan ... we weren't able to make the plays we needed to."
So no, this wasn't a moral victory. But there is a difference between kidding yourself about how well you did and knowing that you did the best you could against the NFL's finest.
"I think it shows a positive," Bowens said, "that against the best team in ball right now, we played pretty good for 60 minutes."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (80)Don M. Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 6:41pm EST"These guys in the media predicting 70 points were a joke.( including fair weather Jets fan Mike Greenberg) Did they expect the Jets to go up there and just lay down? The defense deserves a lot of credit. A few plays made by McCaeirns and they actually could have won this game, That drop right before half time was a killer. He can't possibly be back here next year. Good job Chad."
Tanner Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:00pm EST"Pennington did pretty good except for no tds. McCareins didnt help much not catching a couple game deciding balls. Think Pennington will be back next year?Ley me know"
CC Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:06pm EST"Guys played tough especially on defense - proud of Chad - but after game saw Kerrry Rhodes go over and HUG and talk to Belichick and Coach Bill whisper in his ear - what gives and why would Kerry do that to a coach that we all dispise????"
Jeff Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:12pm EST"McCareins should be traded or cut before training camp begins in 2008. He dropped 2 significant passes in the Baltimore game that cost the Jets the game late in the 4th quarter, and he dropped 2 critical passes in this game, including a critical 4th quarter scoring opportunity. Big time players rise to the occasion when it counts, and all McCareins seems to do is drop the big ones. "
Drew Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:34pm EST"I can kill McCariens,A Clarke, and A Clement all day but it doesnt matter. They were awful and will be gone next year..... We will re-tool our O-Line and dominat next year....Pick Jake Long in the 1st (LT) and move Fergie to RT and then go pay A Faneca. I called D Harris last year...trust me!!!"
Drew Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:39pm EST"Would like to thank Chad for being a true Pro today. I will miss him when he's gone. In saying that..Chad cannot get us to the promise land. The days of Chad being the Franchise are over. Not sure if Kellen is the guy but we will see...I want to thank our team for playing inspired D again today. We needed LC to have a chance. Nice job boys"
razmataz Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:45pm EST"How bout - Asante(will cost a bundle though, and maybe too much, but has a relationship with Mangini), imagine Revis/Asante/rhodes/Elam(although Elam is good for at least 1 bonehead /gm). Fanica sounds good but again $$. Our 36th pick another ILB to pair with monster Harris, Vilma to OL, or trade him. New DL . Trade down 1st pick up OL/DL, I think thats a start, Randy Moss is on a 1 yr deal!"
Joe Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:50pm EST"with the way this season has been going, jets did not disappoint me today. Chad played well, consistent. still believe the jets have a better chance to win with him in their."
Ira Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:51pm EST"Randy, The Jets went toe to toe with the Pats. I even think they outplayed them for most of the game. The D was excellent. The Jets beat themselves with missed chances. They shut down Brady and their offense. The Jets should think long and hard before they move Chad. He played very well. Give Chad a real running game and he wins 10 + games every year."
Jennifer Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 9:36pm EST"I love the Jets! LC, I'm praying for you to get better!!! Y'alls character is an amazing example of great sportsmanship! I love your teams loyalty to each other, and your keep on keepin' on attitude, ya'll are awesome!!!"
Anonymous Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 10:17pm EST"Put Celmens on the bench, earlier this year people was complaining about pennington compare these guys stats "
james Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 10:31pm EST"The jets played their hearts out an to have two officials calls basically determine the out come with the rhodes interference and the mccariens catch is down right wrong..."
Jake Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 11:55pm EST"I think you can forget about Pennington next year, He will ask to be traded or released. He does not want to come back. Most everyone called for his head when he clearly had no O-Line. Better yet KC is two or three yrs from being above a .500 QB if he makes it at all. MGT. Has really botched up the QB position they have shattered CP loyalty and killed KC confidence. CP will start somewhere CY08."
Bryan Castillo Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:10am EST"Chad Pennington for the win!"
Mark Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:38am EST"Chad is not the problem with our offense nor was he ever. Its our play calling, Its terrible, as a fan you can watch the game and predict every play just by seeing the formation. Chad is a class guy and would never comment about it to anybody. The offensive game plan is perdictable and boring it needs to change."
Tom Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:53am EST"Justin McCareins has to be released. He made three huge mistakes today. First, he missed a reception on third down that would have given the Jets a first down. As a result, Jets tried to punt and it was blocked. Second, he was on special teams and failed to catch the ball to pin the Pats on the one-yard line. Finally, he could not catch a sure touchdown on a great throw from Chad. Bye 81!"
Row Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:35am EST"I've seen many changes on D, and great game plans on D, but our O hasn't changed at all. B. Smith is normally in the game plan. Once again, we didn't even score an offensive TD, the running game was nonexistent, and key 3rd down calls were pitiful. Our red zone TD percentage was 0! It's time to make the change, Fire Brian and start implementing a new O NOW, so we don't look like the Falcons!"
Doobie Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 2:46am EST"its amain how people post comments like we should keep chad maybe their tv screen needs tobe cleaned . I watched he throw to many passes that stayed in the air all day and he almost threw a pick . the wr need to get life insurance from the hits hell maybe its my TV or maybe Jet fans are blind "
Get RID of McCareins and Adrien Clarke!!!! Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 3:18am EST"Why is McCareins still on this team? Get RID of McCareins and Adrien Clarke!!!!"
Jesse Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 7:09am EST"I will always be a CP fan but it's time to move on with a new franchise QB! We need to trade CP while he still has value! We need to get 1 or 2 O-lineman and a Qb cause KC is quetionable right now? It's time to start thinking longterm, and it's time to start thinking about getting that Superbowl! Qbs' come a dime a dozen KC is looking alot like Rex Grossman!"
Dunnie Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 7:55am EST""Pick Jake Long in the 1st (LT) and move Fergie to RT and then go pay A Faneca. I called D Harris last year...trust me!!!" - I could not agree more .. i was going to post the very same message. Although an argument could be made to go for CHRIS Long on D and still go after Faneca. Good post. Sad about Chad ... definitely unclear about Kellen."
Dunnie Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 8:00am EST"I definitely second the picks made by Drew in an earlier post. However, instead of JAKE Long, we might want to go after CHRIS Long on D. We should still seek out Faneca in the off season ... he will come at a high price ... but look at our O Line!! Sad about Chad ... not sure if Kellen is the answer yet."
John Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 8:09am EST"Got to get rid of McCareins. Coles would've helped a lot in that game, and those passes that went to McCareins should have been throws to Cotchery or Baker."
EV Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:03am EST"I agree with the above, he might give his best effort and all when he is in, but MCareins is not worthy of playin reciever in the NFL with terrible hands like the ones he has; he has blown countless games, this year and the years past with terrible drops. Chad Pennington gave us a chance to win with his smart play...Clemens would have thrown some picks and let the score get run up!"
Charles Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:05am EST"First off great game Gang Green. You guys played hard and didn't listen to everyone else's hype. The D showed up and I'm surprised that they hung around all day. Are O fense was non existent, not CP fault he came through but no help on the WR end. Some key drop passes that could have turned this game around. It was nice to see CP in the game. I'm just glad it wasn't a 70 point blow out."
Troy Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:21am EST"Never been prouder of this team..........."
gary Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:23am EST" The defense,as it has been since the bye (except for the Dallas game) was on top of things. I don't blame the offensive woes on Chad for this game... it has been sluggish with Clemons in there as well. No QB can open up the game on this team with the offensive line the way it is. DRAFT LINEMEN...we have enough offensive weapons to win if we can open up holes for Thomas and protect the QB."
Brandon Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:26am EST"The worst part about McCareins is we traded a 2nd round pick for him when Moss and T.O. went for 3rd and 4th rounders. I think we see a complete overhaul going into next year. 3 years ago we believed we were a kicker away from the title. Obviously that has changed so its time to regroup again. With Free Agency now-a-days it can be done a lot quicker. Plus right now we are 27 million under the cap"
Jake Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:28am EST"Doobie, Must be your TV!! The way I see it KC throws 2.5 picks for every TD pass, his passer rating is sub 60! If the O-Line or coaching does not improve next yr will be just as bad without CP Darren McFadden or not! Now that I think about it I bet it is not your TV you just need glasses and an understanding of football!!"
pat maio Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:51am EST"It came as no surprise to me that Chad played well. If he started the game that would have been 7 pts taken off NE. There were enough "Ifs" in the game to allow the Jets to win. If Chad is traded to a team with a good O line, good receivers and good running game and a good O coordinator it should be interesting to watch."
tony Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:53am EST"Thanks Chad, I never stopped thinking he can get the job done. Get some offensive players and Chad will win. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl with less talent than Chad."
Nep Oznat Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 10:04am EST"Justin McCareins MUST be released - TODAY. There is no excuse to keep him any longer. Play anybody but this guy! I don't care what a nice guy he is, what a good practice player he is - he has cost us enough games. Mangini would be wise to get rid of him as a statement - if you don't perform week after week after week - you're OUTTA here! "
Charlie Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 10:12am EST"Doobie, we all know CP doesn't have a cannon but he completes passes, puts them on the mark, and makes the right decisions. Before criticizing the way his passes looked remember the conditions out there. Look at Brady's numbers yesterday as a comparison. Remember on multiple occasions Smith was at qb for 1 and 2 down and left Chad with 3rd & long. Bottom line. Gotta be able to run in December"
Marejet Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 10:37am EST"Proud of Chad, as always. It's not his fault that McCareins drops good passes, or that the O-line needs help, or that the running game is dead, OR that the coaching decisions are mindless!! What was that stupidity with Brad Smith anyway? Did Mangini really think the the Patriots would fall for all those fakes?? Throwing Chad in and out was STUPID! Improve the O-line and get rid of McCareins!! "
Derrick Hill Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:22am EST"Chad proved that he can still get the job done when needed. He came off the bench and managed the game well enough to win. Several of the dropped passes were definitely NOT his fault (Justin McCariens). The defencse should be commended for their extraoridnary effort .... they played well enough for the Jets to win. Think about it Jets fans ... if Pennington starts, the Jets WIN !!"
John Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:29am EST"What about the "catch" by Moss in the 4th quarter that led to a Patriots field goal???? Why wasn't it reviewed??? It appeared as if Randy Moss had "caught" the ball when it was on the ground. If the Pats could get a call reversed (when it appeared a catch was made and on the field the ref agreed) -why couldn't the Jets challenge the Moss catch?? Someone up in the booth must have been asleep!!!"
Randy Lange Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:16pm EST"John, it wouldn't have mattered. Kerry Rhodes was flagged for defensive pass interference on the play. The Patriots would have gotten the 46 yards either way."
ChasmGM Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:30am EST"FIrst, I love these Jets! Character is something that they could teach many other teams in the league. Unfortnately, character doesn't always win games. We are lacking on the O-line and we are going to be faced with difficult decisions. With a better line #20 would have had 1,000 yards weeks ago and #10 would still be our starting QB! Gonna miss you Chad - our winningest QB EVER!"
Jet Fan in Saskatchewan Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:49am EST"Justin McCairens should have been cut years ago - he's never been an asset to the team. What was up with Kerry Rhodes hugging the enemy? Lack of class - who's side is he on? O line is terrible - Chad has no weapons & no running game. Is he supposed to be a miracle worker? He is one of the VERY few positives the Jets have right now. Mangini's magic last year must have been just an illusion! "
JR Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:02pm EST"What a great game...a pleasure to watch. Everybody played well...except Justin ofcourse...not a great idea to call so many up the gut run plays. Awesome DEFENSE...GO jETS"
Jonathan Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:10pm EST"Jets should have challenged the Moss catch & made a stop. The use of Brad Smith is good but they need to be creative & not running the option! KC is the quarterback for this team. Chad has been a great QB & he played great but he got away with a few sideline floaters.We need to continue to build the OLine & with KC's arm & confidence he will guide this T-E-A-M to great things to come. Great Game!"
GIOVANNIL1964@AOL.COM Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:10pm EST", I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DIN'T USE CHAD FROM THE START AFTER KELLEN GOT HURT,WITH SMITH IN THE GAME THEY TRY ALL TRICKY PLAYS THAT DON'T WORK THAT IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS COMING,AND WHY DIN'T THEY KEEP THE RUNING GAME GOING,THEY GOT TO KEEP JONES GOING AND NOT JUST FOR A FEW PLAYS,WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE AND WE GOT TO LET KELLEN TROW DOWN FIELD TO SEE IF HE IS IN OUR FUTURE,"
Howard Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:37pm EST"people there were more plays the just dropped passes in this game.i thought the baker fumble was huge esp after int of brady.but i do believe its time for maccarrins to just find a place on the end of the bench right now.and can we please gewt and o line that can block.the o line never seems to know where the rush is comming from,we don't read it right.anyway nice plays by chad ."
Howard Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 12:42pm EST"people more the 1 or 2 plays cost us a chance to win,j mac has to find a seat on the bench for the rest of the year,nice plays by revis all day and harris is going to be fabulous glad to see chad play well enough.but we need an o line that can block they never seem to know where the rush is comming from.and cut a clarke right now he is horrible.keep playing hard jets"
Brandon Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:07pm EST"Randy, I don't understand what you are talking about when you put part of the blame on Chad for the offense struggles! He played very well, even better than Brady. If we would have stuck with Clemens, the game would have been 55-0. For some reason the media wants to paint Chad as a bad QB, but he is very good and knows the game better than any QB in the NFL. Way to show some heart defensively!"
Randy Lange Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:13pm EST"Brandon, what are you talking about? "
Alex Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:11pm EST"why would the Jets FO go after faneca? pretty much the same type of player as pk- good but old, expensive and self-centered. picking up faneca is like admiting they made a mistake with the pk situation- something they unfortunately don't do. drafting jake long, at the moment, seems like a sound option. DON'T draft matt ryan- he's the second coming of kyle boller."
Frank Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:11pm EST"There is not much to say. The O-line absolutely stinks just this Tangini you saved nothing fianacially by trading Kendall and giving Moore the money. You did blow up the season and put a bounty on the head of our QB's who deserve better than this. There has been zero improvement with this unit. Good teams make the plays and that was the difference in the game. "
Jim Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:21pm EST"As a patriots fan, i would like to applaud the jets on a close game. i guess im the minority around NE, but i never thought it would be a blowout. But, as a pts fan i did expect a Pats win. Anyways, congrats on a good game... The jets are cerainly much better than there record this season."
Ira Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:28pm EST"Carl Banks said it best on WFAN today. Does management want to build around Chad by getting a good running game and continue with him or do they want to go with the vertical game and hope Clemens is the answer. That is the 50 million $ question."
Drew Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:32pm EST"Dunnie.... I would be okay with C.Long but I love Jake. This guy is an absolute beast. I heard D Harris say last year he might be the most intimidating person he has every played with. We need a guy like that to crush Seymor or Warren. But I will never turn down a passrusher. Still unsure about our QB but at least with these upgrades he can stay upright.. Nice job Dunnie"
Jeremy Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:48pm EST"Showed great heart. Thanks Chad and LC for being leaders. Typical SHOTTY ball. We need a good O cordinator SHOTTY is so predictable and the O line continues to let TJ down. KC is clearly not the answer for the future and I think Chad has earned his JOB back. If RUN DMC is available you have to get him, but realistically we need either LONG.D has improved but the O is going nowhere with SHOTTY"
Arthur Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:52pm EST"I don't understand the switch from Chad to Clemens, everybody is pointing the finger at Chad for the Jets bad season however, nobody is even looking at how the defense is one of the worst in the league. Chad P. has been playing great football and has been caught up in a maelstrom of dropped passes and sacks. He should be the starting QB for this team next season."
Seth Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:55pm EST"Though i'm not one for moral victories, but at 3-11, the defense totally deserves one. The defense has been putting on some good plays since the bye week, but the offense still sputters. Harris and Revis keep impressing me. I wonder if Pennington will be back next season to reclaim his starting job?"
Jeremy Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 1:57pm EST"We haven't had a GOOD Offensive Coordinator in a long time and we keep trying new ones. Why stop now? BRIAN SHOTTY has been horrible all year. Look at the stats. JETS don't move the chains, don't sustain drives and are so incredibly predictable it hurts. Worst of all the JETS are horrible at scoring TD's. Just look at the Rushing TD's. TJ has 1 all year and Leon is struggling too with what 3?"
Todd Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 2:22pm EST"Kudos to Chad for coming in off the bench and being prepared to play and play well. NHow could you not agree with my man Nep Oznat for his spot on assesment of McCariens. How many games this year alone has he cost us due to his inability to catch a football. I don't care if it's September or December , I don't care if it's sunny or raining he can't catch the simplest of passes. He should be cut"
Alex Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 2:56pm EST"I think that Chad will make the Falcons very happy next year... I will hate to see him leave.... we really have no choice..."
Scott Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 3:26pm EST"I can't agree more with Pat Maio. Chad could be winning for us too, if we had a decent OC. This reminds me of the 1-15 year; so much talent without victories. I think w have the guys on O (if we add a speedster). What Chad needs more than anything is for our D to give him more possessions with more 3 & outs. If we had a Tom Worfolk getting triple teamed, how many plays could Rhodes & Harris make?"
McCareins and Adrien Clarke Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 3:40pm EST"McCareins and Adrien Clarke should be RELEASED today!!!! Both these guys CONTINUALLY keep making major mistakes!"
Gary M. Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:19pm EST"Wow!! what a pro !!! Team look at the stats Chad belongs in there it will be a shame if our jets lose him he is our leader Go JETS !!!"
james Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:29pm EST"CP PLayed well the D did a great job but we need a lg a rt to protect kc a slot wr a dt to plug the holes move jv to the out side fs and another cb come on mangini and mike lets spends some money this off season we need a superbowl the evil empire stays ahead in the afc east were the only ones who can stop them lets stock up this off season"
Nick Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 4:36pm EST"What a disaster this team is! Why is Justin McCareins still on this team? How many games can this guy lose for the Jets? And whats up with Brad Smith running the same play every time? It worked once with good results, did you really need to try it another 8 times? I give credit to Pennington for stepping up, but this team is a disaster. I need to find a new team to follow! "
Xavion Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 5:48pm EST"How come soem players get better treatment from some fans than others. That was a Bonehead Play By Clemens. The worst it should have been was a saftey for intentional grounding He should have thrown deep Hell if it was picked off then maybe the defender wouldnt have scored. Also Im sorry but I dont like Thomas Jones. he makes bad decisions at the Line Leon is a better runner."
Xavion Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 5:52pm EST"For that reason I say trade Him Draft mcfadden, WE can get a DE and Olinemen in league. J peppers May be avail and Faneca and others around the league. Mcfadden is like peterson big strong, fast and great moves hes not a player to be passed up. Look What AP has done for the Vikings..."
Jets Fan Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 6:43pm EST"Guys, it was very nice to see Chad back in. I will always respect his heart and determination. But most of all, the memories, he gave us some good years and exciting games. But I still think that unfortunately, his best years are behind him, and it is time to move on. But the blame for this year was never Chads fault. That blame falls on the offensive line, without Kendall they are horrible."
Jets Fan Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 6:51pm EST"Chad, you almost pulled it off on Sunday. I was happy to see you back on the field. Hey Mangini, can we get some offensive line and receiver help, please? And really guys, enough with Brad Smith, he doesn't scare defenses. Until he can throw, he is wasting our limited plays."
cactus hugger Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 8:11pm EST"I want to add my disgust with McCareins and agree with those above who call for his release. The sad truth is that it doesn't matter which QB we start, with our O line and receivers. Even Brett Favre would look like a loser on this team. The biggest blunder of the season was made by management when they let Kendall go. We saved a million bucks and lost the season. Let's sign WRs who can catch!"
Drew Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:30pm EST"Some of you fans are hilarious. Chad "was" a nice leader and player for us....but this is not 2002 any longer...Plus the same OC you guys (myself included) have been killing is the same guy who shadowed all of Chad limitations last year. Chad did not make the same plays he made last year. I want to win big games not stay close. Chad keeps it close he cant win them anymore....period!!!"
Drew Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 9:40pm EST"Alex.....When did Faneca become old?? Am I missing something here? He is a great LG and dominates the run....something PK could not do. We have plenty of cap space( thanks to Mr T) and need to upgrade over A Clarke or if PK was still here. Big PK fan but he is not in Faneca's league... never was either"
cactus hugger Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:02pm EST"We need somebody like Keyshawn, tall & sure handed. That's another Jets weakness, short receivers. Re Smith's 1 & only pass, Even Tom Terrific was lobbing wounded ducks yesterday, as was Chad. Let's mix up the plays when he's in there. The bottom line is dismal play calling is a major flaw on this team. Give them credit for trying to get away from TJ between the tackles - hasn't worked in 14 games"
Jake Said:
Mon, December 17, 2007 - 11:42pm EST"Randy, Brandon is referring to your comment that part of the problem with the O was the insertion of CP and BS in to the game early because of the KC injury. To me it infers that the Jets O would have been better with KC running the team. I know you have tried to be impartial in that argument this yr. and my guess is, you meant others would percieve it that way. Us pro CP fans are sensitive!!!"
Randy Lange Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 12:01am EST"Jake and Brandon, I see now what you're referring to in my postgame blog. In my haste, I was trying to say that the some of the offense's early struggles were because both Chad and Brad were having trouble establishing a rhythm early, as in 18 plays, two first downs, 81 yards, 0-for-4 on third downs, no offensive points and 7:52 of possession time in the first half. That was clearly not the case in the second half as Chad found his rhythm. Sorry for the inexact editing. I am not taking sides in the ongoing QB debate, but I have always been a supporter of No. 10."
cactus hugger Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 12:59am EST"I've been a CP fan since before Vinny was benched, but if we're honest we'll admit that '18 plays, two first downs, 81 yards, 0-for-4 on third downs, no offensive points and 7:52 of possession time in the first half,' sounds like a typical outing for CP in 07. An ineffective O line and repetitive play calling will do that to anybody."
Doobie Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 2:53am EST"We all know chad is a smart quaterback but as jet fans we have to wake up short volley bal passes are not going to make it in the nfl. cant everyone see how the wr has to wait for the ball i like chad alot be we have to be real about this trade him before someone gets smashed out there draft G.Dorsey put Vilma at olb"
Alex Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 3:24am EST"Drew, granted guards have greater longevity than most players in other positions, i consider any player with 10+ seasons under his belt "old"(a risk of decreased production). faneca would be an excellent player for most teams and he'd probably have at least 5 more productive years- i just dont think tanwood would pay top dollar for him when there's any risk present (he has a selfish reputation)."
Patrick Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 11:07am EST" I just wish we had a normal offense with an identity. Not this trickery motion junk. Yeah it works sometimes but sometimes doesn't cut it. I just don't feel good when this offense takes the field. I never feel we can sustain a drive down the field and when we finally do, we cant put a TD on the board. Its always something, drops, lack of protection, no run game, etc. I tired of it! "
Row Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 2:53pm EST"X, you are wrong. Jones is an amazing back, but b/c of TONY RICHARDSON. The Jets took away his lead blocker & released him. Last year Taylor had 1216, & Adrian has just under 1300 this season, throw out the record game & he's not any better. Justin gets open, no one else does. The INT was a bad call on O. Who calls an out in your own end zone? Trade down and get a O lineman & Desean Jackson Jr!"
Brandon Said:
Tue, December 18, 2007 - 6:33pm EST"thanks for the update Randy! i am glad to hear you are a Pennington supporter and now understand where you are coming from. I believe Chad gives us the best chance at winning games. If we can add a solid 3rd receiver (like Wes Welker) next year, I think it would be wise to keep Chad. A better ground attack would also help!"
GREENBLOOD Said:
Wed, December 19, 2007 - 10:34am EST"Good hard fought game in which you saw no quitting coming from the team. Mangini still has the guys motivated, and I cant wait to see this team in 08. Penny showed his typical leadership and guts, kudos to him. J-Mac needs to get a job stomping grapes, at least he wont need to use his hands. "
CJA Said:
Thu, December 20, 2007 - 11:02am EST"Randy, Thank you for your support of #10. I love Chad. And there are also many Chad fans here expressing the same sentiment. He is "the Jets", he should be our starter & we don't want him to leave. Please relate these messages to him personally. "
FATHEAD11111 Said:
Thu, December 20, 2007 - 5:32pm EST"Randy, I completely disagree whit you about the Chad Fad, but still a great article. J!E!T!S! played the league's "superteam" dead even, and weather can't be an excuse for Tom when excluding one questionable Moss bomb (w\out D-Revis on him) Chad Gellington nearly doubles his yardage - w\out the INT. With this secondary, the '08 Clemens era is looking bright indeed"
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Rob Said:
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 6:38pm EST"It was a good game, a disappointment at the end, but a well played game. I'm still a critique of offensive play calling. I don't think any fan has been comfortable with offensive game plan all year. One last thing, does anyone still think Chad will not be in contention for his QB job starting next season? "
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