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10/14 — This was the toughest Jets postgame locker room I've seen in a while, following their 16-9 home loss to the Eagles. And for the first time this season, anger entered the equation.
"As of tomorrow," DE Shaun Ellis said, "we have to put this behind us and come out as an angry football team."
"Anger? I can't even tell you," said LB Jonathan Vilma, rarely at a loss for even a diplomatic phrase on the state of his team. "I don't know right now. I can't give you a good answer. Come back tomorrow. Maybe I'll have some better answers for you."
Whatever answers the players have privately, not much was shared with the reporters after the Jets sank to 1-5 for the first time since 1999. But several players weren't going with the "There are 10 games left, we could still go 11-5" angle.
"We can't keep saying we're going to get moving, not at 1-5," safety Kerry Rhodes said. "We can't seem to get it together. ... At this point we're not good enough, we're not where we should be. We played in spurts, but spurts aren't good enough in this league. We can say we what we want, 'We're good enough, we've got good players' — which we do. But 1-5 is not good enough."
The defense had its bad spurts early, giving up the 75-yard touchdown pass from Donovan McNabb to Kevin Curtis, the final 45 yards or so coming after the missed-tackle combo of Eric Smith and Andre Dyson, and the 8:23 drive that, even though it ended in a missed field goal, showed how the Jets were struggling to get off the field.
But then the "D" did its part in the second half with three three-play drives, two resulting in punts and one in Hank Poteat's first career interception, but all the Jets could produce from those stops was three points.
The offense gushed in the running game with Thomas Jones getting 96 first-half yards and 134 on the day.
"That definitely was our emphasis this week," tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson said. "We wanted to really move it on the ground. Today definitely gives us an option in our plan of attack."
But meanwhile, the offense stopped producing in one of its favorite areas, the red zone. The Jets got inside the Eagles 20 four times and came away with three field goals. The last time the Jets went at least 0-for-4 in the red zone was in the next-to-last game of the 2001 regular season against Buffalo.
The quarterback issue will continue to be visited by media and fans. Chad Pennington, who said he was "just numb" after his touchdown-less game and 11-for-21 passing day, addressed it by saying: "I'm not concerned. Whatever happens, happens. Coach Mangini is the head coach and I'm the player. I prepare every week to play well. That's totally out of my control."
Kellen Clemens deflected similar questions. "That's a decision the coach makes," the backup QB said. "I know the whole team supports every player in this locker room. We all have each other's backs."
FB Darian Barnes offered some fire on the subject of people who blame Chad for this three-game losing streak, the first of his career as the Jets starter.
"They'd better not," Barnes said. "This is a team. We're an offensive unit. We all could've played better. I could've played better. To put it all on one person is ridiculous."
Eric Mangini declined to do that, as he always does. On whether he's contemplating change at the position, he said, "No, it's a situation again where it comes down to the full group. ... There is plenty of improvement for all of us."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (211)Ira Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:20pm ET"Still this can only get better. Back to the drawing board. BTW all those fans complaining about the play calling at the end nobody seems to mention that the reverse from Smith to Cotchery was a great call. Regroup and get ready for the Bengals. Never give up. GO JETS!!!!!!!!"
ken Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:21pm ET"Like I KEEP saying, SAME OLDS JETS!!!! If this were HERM EDWARDS the JET fans would be killing him. So let me see if there is a DOUBLE standard for the SUPPOSED MANGENIOUS. And I DON'T want to hear anything about we had a good WEEK of PRACTICE or we need to be more CONSISTENT, or we need to CORRECT our MISTAKES. Like I keep saying the JETS organization is CURSED! You YOUNG JETS fans will see."
Ray from Mass Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:22pm ET"Chad was "numb"? Chad's been numb since he's been back. Up here they call him a egg, fragile and no arm....dump routes ain't going to make it. If Tom Brady threw like that...we'd have half a chance...."
Darrell Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:30pm ET"Yeah, do me a favor and continue to start Pennington, at least until it gets nasty outside. I think I'm gonna start getting some Sunday afternoon tee-times in from here on out. This team HAS to win games in spite of their QB, not because of him. It's terrible I have to watch other teams in this league and wish we had a QB with half an arm. Strangely we do, HE SITS ON THE BENCH! START KELLEN!!!!!!!"
#1JETNFL Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:39pm ET"really now ,the team as whole need to evaluate themselves , it;s not just chad ,but every single player..... the jets need to do roll checkdown [ get with the program "
Aaron Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:41pm ET"i agree w/ u ira, i like the uniforms, and the runnin game finally had a good day. but our players need to learn how to be tough and tackle the opposition, and stop givinng up big plays, so we can stay in the game at the end.....WORK ON THE TACKLING"
Angry Jets Fan Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:41pm ET"I saw Clemens put his helmet on, and I really hope that's a glimpse into the near future. Pennington isn't fooling anyone with those weak 3-4 yard passes. It's time to start looking towards the future, let's leave Penny in the past."
Russ Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:51pm ET"We need to stretch the field, unfortunately we can't do it with Chad. I love the guy but his arm strength is killing us. Onnce we open up the deep threat we can pretty much do what we want."
Wayne Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:52pm ET"Tired of hearing how much talent we have.The record speaks for itself.Same old predictable Jets. Ther're too many problems with this team.Besides too little ability, we have no CHEMISTRY. Start with management and go from there.Mangenius who?Schottenheimer what?Bench Pennington-can't bear to see another floater.Put a fork in him, he's done.Cant believe already its wait until next year. "
JP Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:53pm ET"Good things: Thomas Jones being the man - finding the cuts and then power rushing when the cuts were gone, D stepped up, combo schemes of 4-3 with the 3-4 kept Eagles down, however, there were (2) missed field goals and we were playing the Eagles...time will tell if the D gets better. Bad: Rest of the offense gave up at the end. A few bad play calls, the QB sneak....just no fire whhen needed."
Randy Lange Said:
"JP, you meant one missed FG by Nugent, right?"
JP Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:58pm ET"TJ brilliant - rest of the offense was flat except for the reverse to Cotchery - once again, most pass calls were lobs to the side lines....there were 1 or 2 long passes up the middle that the JETS got...don't understand why they stopped. Chad will get the blame because of the interception and not having the arm to bring them back but looked like the whole team gave up. They need a spark."
Disgusted Jet Fan Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:00pm ET"The whole team is a disgrace ive been a jets fan for ever and i am disgusted with the play calling and Pennington. They should have given up on Pennington along time ago. The guy just doesnt have it he had the last 3 weeks to prove himself and comes up short everytime. The DEF isnt a wonder but how could they be when there on the field 85% of the game. they need to start looking towards the future"
JetSEth Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:10pm ET"I agree its the unit to blame. One thing I will add though maybe the reason we did not see the ball go into the air as much today was due to the weather conditions and Chad's lack of zip on his throws. Maybe Coach Schottenheimer is trying to cover up the obvious. I hope someone helps David Barrett learn how to cover a player when the ball is thrown to his area of the field"
Bummed out Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:20pm ET"I'm sick of Managini's non-talk! The guy says nothing during press conferences. Pennington can't move the offense. He's done, let's all face it. His arm is worn out from the injuries and will never be the same. Mangini's stubborness is getting old and I'm starting to miss Edwards. I never thought I'd say that. The Jets need a spark and Clemens will be the guy to do it. What else can they do?"
JP Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:20pm ET"Hi Randy, I actually was talking about Akers (2) missed field goals...sorry did not have enough room! My point was that inspite of how better our D played, the Eagles left 6 points out on the field - Time will tell if the D continues to progress - other than the big passing TD they gave up and some weak tackling, they look to be going in the right direction. "
Randy Lange Said:
"I got you now, JP."
Ira Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:30pm ET"Randy, Check the tape of the game. On 2nd and 1 on their last drive when Jones was stopped for nothing look again. The Eagles expected run and had 9 men in the box. Jones had nowhere to run up the middle. He didn't see the whole field. If he had scene the field he would've bounced it outside to his right and walked into the endzone for a TD. Its a shame he didn't see it. "
Larry Bennett Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:33pm ET"Good news! Mangini said in his post game interview that, " I saw alot of positives in the game." "We are taking one game at a time." "Chad is my quarterback." He has said the same thing for 6 straight games now. I can't wait to hear what he says after their 15th game. Warmup Clemens!"
EW Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:34pm ET"It is time to put Kellen Clemens in."
Darrell Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:43pm ET"What the Jets gave up on defense: 16 points What Thomas Jones rushed for in the game: 130 yards Number of drives starting in opposing territory: Twice Number of Points scored: Nine Coach that keeps in the starting quarterback despite these stats: Worthless"
Joey Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:47pm ET"Without a QB it's almost impossible to get a win. The Jets played fine besides some missed tackles. Of course it's Pennington. Barnes and Mangini say it's the team? I could be sitting on the couch and by the time Pennington throws the ball I can drive to Giants satium run on the field and intercept it. All he does is throw floaters. Testaverde threw a 65 Yd TD pass today. Enough said..."
Dunnie Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 7:56pm ET"Ok ... the good ... TJ Brings it every play ... he is always running full speed. Looked great. I am looking at the rest of this season as one huge pre season for next year. I want to see what kind of progress we can make ... it will tell me a lot about Mangini. I do think it is finally Kellen ... time ... Ive been reluctant on that till now. It'll be good training for next season."
BKLYNFAN Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:06pm ET"Not 4 nothing, but this was so far our best all around game. I hate to watch this team lose as much as it is. This is my first year with season tix-- disappointing and frustrating--but honestly this was our best game and we are moving in a better direction."
Jake Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:07pm ET"Hey Ray from Mass; Go to the Patriots game by the way if you plan to post remember your grammar. It should be an egg not a egg. Secondly, ain't is not a word. Just saw the Pats with another classless act!! Scoring with 13 seconds left and up by fourteen when they could have knelt and left Dallas on the 2 or 3. PATHETIC!! What goes around comes around. AIN'T that wonderful."
Green Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:10pm ET"It is now time to move on! Chad is hurting and It is understandable. All jet fans are sick of the the talent that is being wasted because of chad! PUT IN CLEMENS"
Rocky Keefer Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:11pm ET"I have been a Jet fan for 30 years. And always will be a Jet fan. But Chad is slowing the whole team down with his arm. They have the people to move the ball on anyone, and Clemons time has come to move the ball down field. And then the running game gets a shot in the arm also."
Brian I Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:12pm ET"Randy, When is someone going to ask Mangini a pertinent question until he answers it directly and not fabricate a conversation about what is the right way to do things. Today when asked about working at the areas of concern in practice all week how come in the game the same mistakes were being made, again Mangini gave one of his classic talk around answers. He is starting to look foolish."
John Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:14pm ET"I'm tired of hearing about what little things Mangini thinks the Jets do well during a ball game; it doesn't matter if they're not winning ball games. And I can't even begin to understand the stupid play call the Jets ran on 4th & 1 with the game on the line. How about giving the ball to the guy that ran for 130 yards? I'm screaming for Kellen Clemens...and maybe an entire new defense too."
RELL 2000 Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:15pm ET"I RESPECT WHAT CHAD HAS DONE 4 THA JETS IN THA LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUT IT TIME FOR A CHANGE AND IF WE WANT ANY CHANCE AT THIS SEASON WE ARE GOING 2 HAVE 2 MAKE IT THIS WEEK NO MATTER WHAT WAY U LOOK AT IT AND THE HEAD COACH NEEDS TO STEP UP AND MAKE THIS CHANGE AND NOW OR OTHER WISE THIS SEASON AND YEARS 2 E ARE OVER"
Adrian Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:18pm ET"Randy what's your take on the QB position? On one hand you Clemens cant do the veteran thing pennington does but Clemens has the arm strength to go to Coles or Cotchery down the field."
gio Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:23pm ET"hey "bummed out", i'm with ya. i'm sick of mangini being so stubborn in sticking with chad. grab a fork because chad is done! enough with the awful play calling. why the hell do you sneak it on 3rd and 1 with 4 minutes left when you have jones behind you who just rushed for 130+? somewhere in america rich kotite is laughing. and you guys thought HE was bad at calling plays? enough with this crap. (DECLINED: OBSCENITY (CRAP))"
Brandon Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:23pm ET"Fact of the matter is where not good. We actually stink. We can't score,we can't play D, we can't really do any 1 thing well. Any opponent who plays us just beats us in all phases of the game. We finally ran the ball well today but inside the 30's. God forbid we ran a decent red zone attack. 6 weeks in we are 1 of the worst teams in the NFL. Just no way around it!"
mike Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:24pm ET"This team obviously needs a spark. The reality is that chad does not have the arm strength and mobility to move the ball downfield like most of the other quarterbacks in the league. It shouldn't take a 1-5 record for the coaching staff and management to realize that its time to try something new. We saw in training camp and against the Ravens the tremendous potential Clemens provides. "
Howard Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:24pm ET"i really dont know wat to say anymore.i understand the calls down the side lines to the recievers but l.c. and j.c never seem to get seperation and i love these 2 guys as recievers.chad has to throw that ball obs.as for the goal line calls i thought maybe play action on 3rd and 1 comming back with a run on 4th down if we needed it.and that was before the qb sneak.maybe we can score some next week"
njphones Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:25pm ET"Facts are hard to face around here. If you want to win you have to be rady to put up 31 points per game. At least. The Jets can not get that done.The D did its part, TJ did his part, but we could not score. Sweet Klemen Time! Ciny is an excelent place to start our QB of the future-why not? Are they going to keep playing Chad and pay him $8 million dollars next year?"
Bob R Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:38pm ET"This is outrageous! The team as a whole still fails to play all 4 quarters. From missed tackles, no REAL coverage in the secondary, can't stop the run and this continued "Dink and Dunk" passing offense. I'm happy to see the running game "starting" to come around, but if James Chadwick Pennington can't throw the ball deep....hmmm.....seems we DO have a guy that can! "
Frank Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:38pm ET"The coaching staff hasn't been this bad since Kotite was in town that includes Al Groh. At least when we went 4-12 under Edwards we had a bunch of injuries. This is unacceptable and there needs to be accountability. Mangini and his blank stares remind me of the futile Kotite year. Geez but he and McCareins and Chad are good guys right? Thank good we have those core values or else!"
Rob Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:45pm ET"Really doesn't matter anyhow this year because the league has so much parity after the Patriots & Colts. Too many holes in this team. Defensive line small and not deep, linebackers average at best, and offensive line average but smallish. Quarterback is problem, but even if Clemens was to come in, he may make the team a middle of the pack team. Rebuild for next few years through high drafts. "
Don Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:48pm ET"I disagree with anyone defending the play calling on those last 2 plays. I will give them credit for the reverse but a QB sneak on 3rd down? How about play action and look for Baker. And on 4th down? Everyone knows that he always looks for Coles in that situation. One of those 2 plays has to be Jones. Then it's even more disgraceful that the "D" couldn't hold them there and get the ball back."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:52pm ET"Clearly if Chad Pennington was sourounded by a top 5 defense, and one of the best offense lines in the league, they would be in very different situation but Jets have neither. Pennington is not a quarterback who can go far into the playoffs, and for that matter win games, with out an amazing team around him, he's simply talent wise not good enough. "
Don Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:52pm ET"I am also getting tired of all the opposing fans in the stadium. If you have season tix and are not going to use them, give them up. I had a couple of clowns in Sec. 315 who should have been thrown out in the first half as they spilled beer on myself and my brother. The security at the stadium is a joke. I will be putting a call into the Jets tomorrow to voice my displeasure."
Mike Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:57pm ET"Ok agreed. Running game better. D had some stops late. loved the unnies. But I still don't understand why we can't get the ball to our playmakers. Where is Leon? How come we can't give him a Westbrook type package. Screens, isos on the LBs? Why hasn't Smith attempted a pass all season? How bout an WR reverse pass? His versatility can't be respected if he's not given the chance to showcase."
Drew Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 8:58pm ET"Coach is starting to have blind love for Chad. The QB play has been bad. Chad is making bad decisions with the ball...something he never did in the past. Who cares about nis arm, he never had one ..the decisions are killing this team. Ira..I know you look at the positive but B-Schott's play calling has been spotty at best this year. The last 3 plays were not good. Where's TJ on the last 3 plays??"
Drew Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:04pm ET"For the few remaining Chad supporters please tell me what Chad has done "this year" to continue to start? I used to kill all of the Chad bashers in the past...I tell them to go back to the days he took us deep in the playoffs and made great decisions but I have not seen that Chad this year... 0 TDs in 6 quarters?? Kellen might fall on his face but he cannot play much worse than Chad has lately."
Stu Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:08pm ET"Chad is like a baseball player that cant hit the ball over the shortstop defenses do not have to play more than 20 yds back because he cant reach the outfield. Chad is the direct opposite of Jeff George he had a great arm and no sense of football the shoulder injury has never healed. It's time to start a new era"
Drew Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:12pm ET"One good thing is I did not even get angry during todays game. Today was almost how I expected it to go....I have lost faith in Chad and am starting to lose faith in our coach. I do not think Chad has done anything to continue to start. I am not your typical Chad basher but even I can see he is struggling to make any plays. We have lost 3 winnable games in a row and the QB has been bad in all 3"
Blake Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:15pm ET"While there are many, many negatives to harp on after the loss, I have a question about something positive. The Jets’ kick returns have been amazing of late, and its not only due to Leon Washington – the blocking has been unbelievable. Randy, could you please tell us who those wedge guys are so they can get some credit?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Blake, read my Saturday Radar entry. It's all there."
GREG SMALENSKI Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:18pm ET"Sure Chad was bad, but youv'e got 2nd and 1 from the 4 and you don't run Thomas Jones three straight times..........that's ridiculous. Am I the only one that saw the playclock clearly run out on the Eagles only touchdown? Unless Chad is clearly your'e qb next year, you cannot play him anymore."
scott Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:23pm ET"Why not start Clemens, this is a lost season now and let's seewhat this guy can or cannot do. This way the Jets will have a better idea what position to draft next yearin the top of the 1st round. Maybe a QB or a big run stopper on defence. And please use Chris Baker when you are inside the red zone or anywhere on the field for that matter, the play calling is very unusual to say the least."
DAN Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:26pm ET"Eric Mangini has regressed so much as a coach. Last year it was fun to watch the Jets. Now it feels more torturous than having Herm back here. He doesn't take risks anymore. He's not that disciplinarian we all were used to in year one. There is alot to be addressed here, and it's definetly more than Chad Pennington folks!"
Ira Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:30pm ET"The team just can't seem to play a complete game. They make 2 or 3 good plays then make a bad play. On both sides of the ball. The D did their job in the 4th QT. The O gets into the red zone 4 times and comes away with 3 FG's and 1 no score. 3 weeks in a row they had the chance to tie the game 2 times and put the Giants away and came up empty. Now they have to play for pride!!"
Tired Jets Fan Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:31pm ET"I like Chad but the time has come. The poor guy looks like he is throwing a shot put on any pass longer than 20 yards. And Chad has last say on the plays. To stick with a QB sneak with all the Eagles in the box on 3rd down was foolish. Why not a fake to Jones and a quick slant over the LBs. Sad to say but this coaching staff has overnight become like a Kotite coached team!"
Joe Tocci Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:33pm ET"The Rat Mangini is getting what he deserves. He is a poor coach and will probably never work in the NFL again when he is fired. But I'm sure Charlie Weiss can use a assistance coach at Notre Dame (DECLINED: NAMECALLING)"
Debby Valerie Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:40pm ET"Chad just doesnt have it anymore and its not worth 8 million, they need to let clemons try what could it hurt if he does worse put chad back in they won't know it we dont try.. Things have got to change please. It clemons time now or never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
David Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:40pm ET"They need to bench Pennington they have no other choice. It is mostly his fault for being 1 and 5 because he cant find the open receivers and when he does its only for a couple of yards. He also is not mobile enough to scramble and avoid the sack. I say thats its time to make a change at Quarterback now while the team still has a slim chance at making the post season as a wild card team."
BC Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:44pm ET"Do the Jets have any realistic chance of competing for the Super Bowl? Of course not! Therefore, there is no reason not to start Kellen Clemens immediately and let him get his rooky, mistake filled year out of the way, since the team stinks anyway. Chad is not going to be any better next year. It's time to start thinking 2008 football! Hopefully these coaches can see the obvious!"
John Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:55pm ET"Chad needs to sit next week. It's not all his fault but he just doesn't have "it" any more. He doesn't have any zip left in his arm and I'm afraid that his "lobs" are more like hospital balls than passes. Please it him down before someone gets hurt. Mangini needs to forget about the confusing shifts and motion and get back to the basics. "
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:56pm ET"EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK CHAD IS "JOE" JUST MAYBE HE'LL NEVER LIVE UP TO THAT. I GREW UP WATCHING JOE THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME AND A DIFFERENT GAME. IF CHAD CAN'T THROW THE BALL DOWNFIELD HE NEEDS TO GO, IT'S THAT SIMPLE. FOR EVEN JOE WITH HIS BAD KNEES COULD STILL WHIP THE BALL ALL OVER THE FIELD. "
Jason Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 9:56pm ET"What happened to passing the ball around? Did we even make an attempt to pass it to our slot reciever today? Come on JETS!"
GreenFn Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:07pm ET"I've been watching and loving this team for a long time, but this season has been rough. The 3-4 defense has proven itself futile, our running game is not there, and Chad's arm is not strong enough (chad is a great guy). My opinion is change the defense scheme and put clements in. We are at 1-5, suck it up and let the kid learn how to play in order to obtain experience."
Tommy Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:10pm ET"Alright Changing one spot has been known to set a spark through out teams in the past. Besides with Chad's weak arm The other teams D doesnt have to worry about the bomb so bring everyone in and it stops the running game i makes it easier to blitz. Besides Lets face it the Season is over lets see what the future QB has lets see if he is the QB we think he is or if you need another prodigal child"
Joe Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:11pm ET"The season is OVER. Any hope of a playoff run is DEAD. It's time to prepare for the future and that means BIG changes. I have always loved Chad, but he must get used to a new role as back-up and mentor. Bob Sutton must GO - our D can't stop the run or make the big plays when they count. How can you add 2 young studs (Revis and Harris) in the off season and get worse? A bitter pill indeed ..."
pete from 123 Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:17pm ET"This year is a joke. 3rd and goal from the 3, Jones has 130 yards and we call a QB sneak and fade to Coles. Ridiculous play calling, defense cant get off the field or make a play, horrible tackling. Let Clemens play and see what we have with him. he"s got a gun for an arm, tough kid..tell me what we have to lose??"
rego Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:21pm ET"I have been a chad fan since he took over for vinny.The jets offense with chad are playing football in a phone booth, defenses sit on 40 yards or less because of his arm strengh.Suggestion try to trade Chad to Chicago for decent play making linebacker or a pass rusher. Chicago is in need of QB. Let the clemmon era begin,"
Joe Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:21pm ET"MEMO TO MANGENIUS: your brutal training camp/practices, CIA "hush-hush", "consistent approach", say-nothing press conferences, only signing "smart, good character" players, playing Mozart, practicing boxing and total lack of passion/emotion on the sidelines has worked wonders with the Jets. As a fan, I want to thank you and the other coaches in advance for bringing us a top 5 draft pick in '05."
charlie beckman Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:29pm ET"we have had enough , its unfortunately time to sit chad, hes playing like he knows his job is almost gone.its like he's waiting himself for kellen to take over.its like hes afraid to make a mistake, no confidence in any thing he does absolutely astonishing whats ging on with him. SEE YA CHAD.SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!"
TopCat Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:31pm ET"I've read all the posts and my fustration grows each week. I too have always been a Chad supporter but I don't have any confidence that he can lead us down the field for a come-from-behind win. Our receivers never seem as open as our oppoonents-is it a separation issue or is the ball delivered too slowly? And while we have talent on D, we don't play to our player's strengths.That is BAD coaching"
aosjo Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:32pm ET"This season is just about over in terms of the playoffs. I would like to see Chad at least finish the first half of the season. In the second half if we are still not improving, I would definitely like to see what clemens has to offer. Chad has been the face of this franchise but it maybe time to look into the future and that hurts so much because of how highly I think of Chad."
JP Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:35pm ET"Once again, the commentators were pointing out Chad's lack of ball strength and the bad decisions on interception and overall playcalling. However, did anyone see Jimmie Johnson during half time saying a rumor that Chad might be traded before the trade deadline. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? If that is the case, that would leave us with Clemens, Tauissopo, and Smith..."
rudy iacono Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:37pm ET"When a horse breaks its leg you perform euthanasia a merciful act. When a QB can no longer make the throws that are necessarry to help his team win you replace him and move on. Mangini needs to be reminded that every time he doesn't act to improve the team is another day that he insults the intelligence of the fans and the media. Stand up and be a man otherwise we'll find one that can."
Vinny Cervetta Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:47pm ET"Leave Chad in? Look Chad is a class act and all, but were 1-5! by leaving him in WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE MANGINI? he cant throw the ball deep and will never win a championship, ship him to KC or chicago anf get something out of it while he can still walk. were not making the playoffas this year, so why does it hurt to play kellen? benching for youth wont hurt. (ex. Eli manning, Romo, Brady)"
Sean Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:48pm ET"I know this is the wrong place for this, Joe really wasn't that good. That's why he isnt in the HOF. He is a legend, and a star, but he threw more INTs than any Jet. Chad has a similar draw. He made Marshall,from 1AA to 1A because of him. This is a business, If Joe played now, he'd have sat by 71. Kellen is the future. This is hard for us as Jets fans, we endure pain but we need to change together"
D.I.T.O. Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 10:58pm ET"THE JETS HAVE GIVEN CHAD PENNINGTON PLENTY OF TIME 2 BECOME THE LEADER HE IS. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THINGS HAD 2 TURN OUT THE WAY THEY HAVE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT HE HAD 2 DEAL WITH THE INJURIES HE HAS SUSTAINED AND STILL GO OUT AND GIVE THE BEST HE CAN. THERE IS NO DOUBT IT IS A TEAM EFFORT. SO I BELIEVE CHAD SHOULD DO WHATS BEST 4 THE TEAM AND STEP ASIDE HIMSELF."
Pete Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:08pm ET"Chad is a class act. As well as being an extremely smart player. But he's just not getting it done. He's not a scrambler..and this O line is young..and Chad needs time and protection to make plays, which he don't have. Whatever the reason, I think we need to shake it up and see what else we got. Give Kellen a chance. It's getting late in the season. "
Lou Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:15pm ET"Team looked flat. Running game finally got started. When a guy runs for over 100 yards and you don,t score a TD that,s the QB's fault. In this league you've got to throw the ball down the field. When McNabb threw down the field it was there in a blip. If Peeny throw one of those balls we'd still be waiting for it to get there. Kellen lookes good late vs. the Ravens. Its time."
Ablity Mouwon Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:16pm ET"i think the jet have problem at QB"
Ablity Mouwon Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:25pm ET"i think the jets have a huge problem at Conerback, they drafted revis but he is not who they thought he was, at one point he lead the team in takles that is not good if you said the way he got them. one of my favorite player in the whole leauge is Coles but i think the Jets should trade him to egles for RG. S.ANDREWS or CB S.BROWN then if they want to trade chad they should trade Alt for J.Abrham."
bjb_nyj11 Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:33pm ET"I have never seen a coach in love wth 1 player the way mangini is in love with Chad. It Lovie Smith 3 weeks to shake off his love affair with Grossman, but it seems as though Mangini just cant let go. He talks about being constent. And so far, we have: We have been consistently losing. True insanty is doing the same thing the same way and expecting different resuls. "
CaneJet Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:42pm ET"Joe Namath isn't in the hall of fame, eh?"
jets.... just end the season Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:46pm ET"we are horrible , please someone find us a good quaterback. i look in the history of the jets and we never had championship caliber qb. time to find one try first with kellen if not trade who ever you need to becausse with out qb we have no idddenity. bad enough we rent a field to ay at. this ranchise is turning into a joke . when i saw there uniforms i thought it was halloween . jets 2-14 in 07"
Moto Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:49pm ET"Sean, are you talking about Joe Namath? I only ask because Namath IS in the Hall of Fame."
mloria Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 11:57pm ET"Hey Jake, I'm a die hard Jets fan and I hate the Pats. But don't you think it is kind of pathetic that the only thing you could bring up to insult Ray from Mass was his grammar and the pats scoring a garbage td. Come on man, don't make us look stupid."
CHUCK Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:16am ET"LOOK AT A LIST OF NFL TEAMS, ON HOW MANY WOULD CHAD BE THE STARTING QB? 60%, 70% MAYBE 80% ? IF THE JETS SHOW UP UNDER-PREPARED AND/OR DON'T EXECUTE , IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO STARTS."
Draz Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:27am ET"As most fans and media have been saying for a while, the jets don't have the personnel to play a 3-4. Funny, today was the D best game in a hybrid front. I would say half of all the plays on D were in the 4-3. We just need to get Eric to listen to us again ... bring on Clemens. Mangini "we liked the matchup". Coles v Brown, 4 and 1. Duh! Brown is a probowler. Nice try Eric."
TonyR Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:38am ET"The season is lost and it certainly can't hurt to bench Pennington and let Kellen get some experience out there. Until then we can all watch Kermit and sing along with the Jets theme song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco"
Eddie G Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:51am ET"Granted Chad needs to step up his game but open your eyes people. The coaching is the worst Ive ever seen. Clemmens had his debut and the offense was run exactly the same dink & dunk and his accuracy is awful. I don't buy this Chad can't throw downfield nonsense.Open your eyes. The recievers aren't open, the running game doesn't work and there is no pass rush...we are being out strategized."
Justin Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:16am ET"Responding to Sean's comment on the first page. You said Joe Namath was not in the Hall of fame. Joe Namath is in the Hall of Fame. "
Sugar Boy Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:48am ET"How about trading for a young talented reciever, and a good tight end. How about giving stuckey a chance to play and forget about the many job having smith. Bringing in some old school players that play smash mouth football and forget about these media hungry big play dudes. less trick plays,spread the offence more make better decisions, hit hard and and play fast start talking names"
Randy Lange Said:
"Sugar Boy, just a reminder that Chansi Stuckey is on injured reserve."
Murph Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:58am ET"First of all, Sean, Joe's not in the HOF? News to me! I believe he's been in the HOF for about 20 some years! Don't even try to compare Pennington and Joe Namath! By the time Namath was playing as long as Pennington they had already won the Super Bowl, not to mention coming close a second time. Time to give Chad a rest and give Kellen a chance! Can't Hurt!"
die hard jets fan Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:37am ET"chad's a smart QB with his play calling & reading defences but any QB can learn that. Arm strength & athleticsm is what u need in order for u to be successful in this position & which Chad dont have both because u have to be born with it .i believed that there's a lot of great talents on this team,without a good leader,great talents will be wasted.Try Brad Smith & see what he can do? then decide."
rob Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:14am ET"lets see..Jones, he got back into his game, we know Washington can run, and Coles and Cotchery have been making some great catches. But no team can win on short plays every sunday. Chad a nice guy, but he isn't getting the job done, ....and we've seen what Kellen can do. Its time #10 sat a game or two"
Mitch Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:25am ET"When you go to a gunfight, you don't show up with a water pistol! Sadly, and i do mean sadly because I 'used' to love Chad....with him at QB, it's simply just not fair fight. "
Ray from Mass Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:36am ET"Jake, didn't know this was being graded, sorry about the grammar I was in a hurry. Dude....I'm a Jets fan in New England, not in Jersey or New York (home) where misery has company. Chad's an egg, Mangini is spineless and if Randy posted my other comment I think I said that this team needs a spark like they had in the Bill Parcells days. I'm going to the Dec game, End Zone seats,I'll take my lumps."
kevin bass Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:22am ET"we all stood with pennington when he had surgeries .but he is not the same leader.when he says he is not concerned then its time to bench him .this is a talented football team and the right spark is all it needs .and chad has lost his competitive edge."
Adam Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:48am ET"We came up three field goals short today. It's unfortunate that Philly was able to stop our best offensive play (running the kick back). I am assuming that they are going to wait until we are officially eliminated from the playoffs before we put in quarterback that can throw the ball farther than 20 yards. "
Dave h Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:09am ET"how many loses is it gonna take, how many interceptions, how low has the morale of this team got to go before mangini or whoever is pulling his strings makes the change? How much more do the fans, who have already waited too LONG have to wait? why, with a capable QB on the sideline, do they stick with one whose not getting it done! dont make it personal ,its business, take care of business !!!!!!"
Jim Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:23am ET"Just a overall disgrace. The fans should be disgusted. I am. 39 years of this nonsense."
Dennis Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:33am ET"I have a 3 foot Chad bobble head in my "sports basement". I have been going to games since 1971. If I think it's time to move on with a change in QB"s it's not because I'm not use to being let down again by this football org. No coach but Parcells/ Groh? has a winning record. I hurt. Make a change play for the future, we have no present."
Angry Jet fan living in Florida Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:36am ET"I have been following this team for 40 years,I don't know how much more I can take. I refuse to root for the dolphins,I would rather stop watching football. SAME JET NONSENSE every year. Chad has had it, face it coach. Time to move on,nothing to lose now so let's see Kellen play the rest of the year and see what we need for 2008. "
Tim Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:39am ET"Look Pennington is not the Problem! If you want the long ball the O-line has to block, the fastest man in the runs 4.4 fourty can the line give him that LONG! The D has problems and it is a team game. Give Penny a chance they have to get some support around. You don't go 10 and 6 then not win a game unless something big has happen. "
Ira Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:40am ET"I have been a Chad fan since he started. Not a knock on him but the O is flat. Is it all Chad's fault? Of course not but Eric needs to make a change now for the better of the team. I saw players slapping Clemens on the shoulders after Chad's INT and he still went back into the game. Sometimes a QB change is good and can spark a team. You can debate putting him in yesterday but he need to start now"
Ira Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:42am ET"BTW Curtis's TD shoudl've have been called back. Checking out the tape the ball was snapped after the play clock had run out. Poor job by the officials."
Rev.Herb Bailey Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:47am ET"Chad needs to sit for a while. If the Clemons era is now than we need to know. Chad though was not out there missing tackles!"
Dave h Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:58am ET"has anybody noticed the resemblence between jet recievers and people waiting for a bus. his passes are so slow, if the defender hasnt already jumped the route for a pick, hes setting up to clubber the reciever. Chad is not putting points on the board and it should be a crime to blame it on the team, no their not perfect, but their potential cant be realized with Chad. "
John Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:12am ET"No, Chad is not the only problem but this guy has no chance to take a team to the promised land unless he has all facets of team clicking with him. Time to see if Clemens-with a better arm and more mobility-can be the one or if he is another browning Nagle. However we are back in quasi rebuilding mode with a very uncertain situation at QB. Sobering season for sure but knew already after BUF game."
W.T. von D Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:16am ET"I agree that Chad needs to go at first string, keep in as a back maybe for the time being. I watched the game where they brought in the back up. But the fourth looked very impressive. The season for the most part is shot! If the Jets want to be ready to be in the thick of things next season then Clemons needs the experience from this season. Chad cant get it done any more."
Xavion Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:17am ET"I am a huge Jets fan and I watched yesterdays game. I found myself not upset though. The loss was not Chads fault but he didnt hel us win either we had a chance to tie from the 4 but couldn't. It hurts a lot more when you expect wins and lose. sure this is a disappointing season but. cant go nowhere but up from here. Hey at least Miami is still winless."
Xavion Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:24am ET"The kick return has been amazing I swear there were 2 returns where I thought Leon was gonna take it to house. He has to be avging Nearly 40 yds on returns randy do you have the stats after yesterdays game? I see him taking 5 -6 to the house this year. I think he could be better than Hester. The Bears entire unit is great watching Hester usually theres not an oppsing team member around him."
Randy Lange Said:
"Xavion, through Sunday's games Leon Washington continues to lead the NFL in kickoff return average at 36.4 yards per return."
Don Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:52am ET"Sean , please check your facts.....Joe is in the Hall Of Fame, and change the face of football. But I agree, its time for the Kid!!!!!"
Drew Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:59am ET"Never a great sign when C Baker is questioning the play calling late in games? Mangini is going to lose this locker room if he is not careful. I know he has them all trained what to say but you can start to see the cracks starting to leak. QB play, and play calling are even starting to get called out in the broadcast. A huge fall from last year's run. Just sad"
Darrell Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:07am ET"81 comments. 48 of them call for a change at QB. "
Ira Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:09am ET"Drew, I only have a problem with the QB sneak. You can't continue to go back to it 3 times in the same game. Jones should've scored on 2nd down. The pass to Coles i have no problem with. One on one with Coles is usually money. Brown made a great play. If it worked and the Jets won in overtime then Schotty would be a genius. Its a no win job to be a coach. You're always going to be 2nd guessed."
The Green Beast Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:10am ET"I loved the uniforms can't say I liked the income of the game it's about time the Jets start Kellen Clemens. Chad not being able to bullet or throwing that ball deep is killing that potential we have on offense. Unless Mangini got a scheme to stop C.Palmer and R.Johnson or at least prepare for a shootout on pts. we can look forward to being 1 and 6 next week."
Ron Cioffi Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:24am ET"The jets defense continues to get push around. The oppoent is on the field for a long time. They are playing like robots, trying to figure out where they should be and not using a common sense attack the ball approach. Chad , really cannot strech the defense, he lays his receivers out to dry with his floating passes, he has lost his confidence, He is not leading the team anymore."
Brian I Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:25am ET"Maybe if I re-phrase this I will get a reply from you Mr. Lange. When will any member of the media, including yourself start asking Mangini for a direct answer to a question posed. His press conferences are routine and rehearsed. I could give his post game press conferences. How about asking him "Why has your team tackled so poorly despite having ("good") weeks of practice" etc. "
Randy Lange Said:
"Brian I, these questions get asked every news conference."
Dunnie Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:56am ET"One more quick note : I just watched the second half of the Baltimore game .... THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING. There was energy, hope and aggression as KC led the team back to the near win against a DOMINANT defense. With Chad ... no-one has the belief that a quick strike is possible ... There was a time when Chad could do the same ... A long time ago in a galaxy far far away."
Go Jets!!1 Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 9:57am ET"Why has no one mentioned the absolutely terrible Brian Schottenheimer? He needs to go away, for a very long long time. His play calling schemes are terrible. Chad needs to sit the bench, in fact everyone should sit the bench. We should just hire the cheerleaders to play. K, rant complete."
Cover2 Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:02am ET"Seen alot of improvement from the squad from previous weeks... Still not enough to get the job done though... Shoot.. The Play Calling!?! It's limited because of what they have out there on the field.. Defense as a whole ain't do bad at all, even with the offense putting them in bad situations.. Special Teams was banging.. QB play? Touch passes aint cuttin it no more.. Make the change coach!"
deesto Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:03am ET"Do you really think this is all one person's fault? Maybe, but if so, that person isn't wearing a jersey. There are a lot of bad plays being made every game, and a lot of bad plays being called from the sidelines. Who calls a QB sneak on 3-&-1 for a guy with a bad ankle, when a guy standing in the backfield has 100 yard rushing on the day? Or a pass on 4-&-1? It isn't just Chad. Get real."
Steve O Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:10am ET"Remember when New England keeped Brady on the bench and started Bledsoe? He was having a bad season and the the Jets took him out, Brady came in and the rest is history. The future is now and we should let Clemans take over."
michael Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:15am ET"I'm a die hard JETS and have pulled for Chad for years but enough is enough lets put Clemens in its time for a change. "
Patrick Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:24am ET"I am so tired of this teams inability to score. They didn't even have to work to get into a position to score. Leon set us up once again for points on the KO return and Poteat actually makes a play and picked off Mcnabb's pass. Run more high percentage plays on 4th downs, not lobs into the corner and hope LC make a remarkable catch like he does every week bailing chad out and risking his neck."
Charles Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:35am ET"The jersey's looked awesome this week I liked them a lot I just wish we would have gotten the win. I wonder if the Jets will wear them again this year be cool as a alternate jersey to wear a couple times a season. Next weeks game will be a scary won if are D don't show up but I think everyone will be playing with a chip on there shoulders. Go Jets"
Justin P Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:40am ET"The problem isn't Chad. There is no fire in these guys. No emotion. They are trying to play to technical when they have the talent to play, show emotion, get fired up and play football. Stop all of this benching Chad nonsense, we have all of the talent that other teams have, we're just not using it. Throw down the middle, give it to Baker! - Get fired up, show some emotion and love for the game!"
damone Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:46am ET"if we dont start CLEMMENS soon and wait till next year an find out he's not that good either.......WHERE WILL WE BE...THINK ABOUT IT!!!!"
Totally FED UP Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:48am ET"And I thought Joe Walton was Clueless!!!"
Schuyler Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:55am ET"Watching the team, it was difficult to see where the problem is. The defense played well yesterday, they contained Westbrook. The offense played well, TJ had 130 rushing yards. Than it dawned on me, there is no big threat on either side of the ball. There isn't an offensive player who can take it to the house on any given play, or a defensive player who can change the game. It makes the team flat."
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 10:56am ET"Listen to yourselves. We are 1-5 and the only thing you people are worried about is whether Chad gets benched. How about Vilma, Ellis, Robertson, Barrett , Barton, Hobson, Thomas, Coleman (both), Dyson, Graham, and Nugent? Not one of these guys has played well. Why dont we put in the backups for these guys to get a "SPARK." Its not all CHAD, EVERYONE ON THIS TEAM STINKS RIGHT NOW. "
Mark B Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:19am ET"1-5 its over - Give the kid a chance - Chad is not the answer he's an average QB at best with a below average arm. Lets move on and see if we have the Quaterback of the future. Aren't you jet fans tired of those 5 and outs with no zip on the ball that almost get intercepted ever time."
SHARIF Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:25am ET"WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR??....TO BE 1 -10???.....KELLEN NEEDS TO B IN THE GAME NOW!!!!!!......TRADE VILMA A ND ROBERTSON NEXT YEAR FOR 1ST RD PICKS AND START ALL OVER....CAUSE THIS SEASON IS OVER.....AND I HAVE TO HEAR GIANT FANS TALK ALL WEEK AT WORK...THANKS CHAD!!!!!!!!!!!! "
kgp Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:30am ET"Became a Jets fan 1965 ... seen it all ... I though Chad was doing ok, until I changed the channel briefly + saw Brett Farve throw. OK, I'm fixed ... Chad has to go. And why are open opponent receivers the only ones seen on the whole TV screen and then a Jet or two shows up later? Ours are never THAT open. Ball slow getting out there? The Jets Cover-2 is a sieve !!"
Nep Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:52am ET"Yes the team is missing key players and Chad has no arm left, but the BIGGEST culprits of this year's fiasco are the coaches. Week after week they come up with lousy game plans, a flat team, make no adjustments at the half that work, and make BONEHEAD calls like the 3rd down sneak and 4th down all-or-nothing play. Shottenheimer has NO CLUE and should be fired at the end of the year. "
Dennis Mc Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:52am ET"I was a big believer in Chad when he first came to this team. Now, I too, am wondering what happened to that QB that didn't make the stopid misakes and turnoers? It may very well be the time to give Clemmens a shot."
Ira Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:57am ET"Randy, Sorry i need to change the topic. I think the Jets should keep these Titan uniforms and wear them 1 game every year. It was weird not seeing green and white but they looked great and it was cool. Whay do you think?"
Randy Lange Said:
"I liked the look, too, Ira, and I know the players did as well. Unfortunately, it was not the secret ingredient for a W on Sunday."
Darrell Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 11:59am ET"Brandon, just who do you propose to fill the positions you mention changing? Who's going to take over for Dyson? Hank Poteat? How about Robertson? Or Nugent? See, the thing you're (conveniently) forgetting here, is that there are not suitable replacements on the roster to fill those positions. The one position that might actually have an improvement sitting on the bench is the QB. START KELLEN!"
Jeremy Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:07pm ET"NO OFFENSIVE SCORES IN 6 QTRS? I saw Clemens put his helmet on during the game, that's a good sign! THOMAS JONES HASN"T SEEN THE ENDZONE ALL SEASON, yet he can run for 130? Give TJ the ball in the endzone instead of calling your standard issue corner to Coles, we've seen it a hundred times, so has everyone else. With the game on the line you don't run with TJ, nice one Shotty!! "
Jeremy Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:18pm ET"IF MANGINI says one more time after a horrible loss "I was happy with a lot of things" " I think we did a lot of positive things" I'm going to go nuts. Positives, Positives like what? Anther Loss? No touchdowns in 6 Qtrs? Yeah good job O Line, TJ, Leon and Cotchery, as usual!! GOOD POSITIVE THINGS, coach? "
Jeremy Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:34pm ET"HEY, Is it too early to talk about THE DRAFT?? Cuase you know we are getting a good pick! We need a guy like GLENN DORSEY? Maybe we'll have a pick at McFadden, the way this is going! What about Justin King, we always need help a CB? "
Duaine Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:35pm ET"Its not Chad fault alone it is a team effort but lets try a new quarterback and see if it gives the team a spark.TJ ran for 130 and still Chad could not do anything with it. I am TIRED OF LOSING every Sunday"
Mike D Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:35pm ET"Should have handed it to Jones on the 3-1 situation and that game would have been won"
Max Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:36pm ET"I like Chad but let's face it. Strick the fork in him he's done. Give Kellen a shot so D Backs have to cover further then 10 yards down the field. come on the future needs playing time."
Ira Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:49pm ET"The D did play better at times. They really held Westbrook to nothing until the final drive. He had 120 yds rushing but 50 came on the last drive on 4 carries. By that time the D had to have a letdown after the O couldn't score."
Xavion Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:51pm ET"Looking at the Game again I think it be cool if the jets actually Had new jerseys or made a Change to the uniforms Im thinking Black and Green Call It Jet Black, New uni's New attitude, New team... You listening Woody ?"
Jay Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 12:56pm ET"Guys - I hate to say this, but you need to watch the tape. Chad has no arm strength left. All of his passes are lollipop passes. Because of this, we have to change our play calling and can't open up the field. With any quarterback who could actually throw deep (accurately), we could open up the offense for Thomas Jones. As a huge Pennington fan, I sadly proclaim, it's Kellen Clemens time!"
JOE'S WILLIE Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:01pm ET"All time low..Finaly get a running game, and nothing else to support it. Last year either was a fluke or an easy schedule. The proof is right in front of your face at 1-5"
KentheJetFan Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:03pm ET"OK, enough already. Yes, the whole team is stinking up the field at one point in the game or another, but we have to score points to win a game. The Jets consistantly play just below the level of the other team. Look at the winning programs and, if they can, they demoralize the other team and beat them by as many points as possible. The Jets play to merely hang on. Chad, you are benched! "
alan patterson Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:05pm ET"why stick with chad? every defense we play has an advantage before the game starts they only have to cover 1/3 the field instead 1/2 or more because he cannot throw the ball any further even when we use the spread offense they still can plat tight on our receivers because there is no deep threat becase he can't throw the damn ball time for a change"
Vikram Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:08pm ET"Randy, I am curious to know how long each Jets' drive is on average and how it stacks up in the NFL. Seau from the Pats made a good point about the D being able to make in game adjustments owing to the time afforded to them by long drives by the O. More time = more study of formations,plays, etc. using game time photos and then adjustments are more facile. "
NOAHTR Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:13pm ET"Good-bye "Hangin" Chad. You will still be a decent back-up in this league for a few more years, but you should never start another NFL Game again. It's not ALL your fault, but let's be honest, it's MOSTLY your fault. That vision of the laser Clemens threw in the 4th quarter in Baltimore has been in all of our heads for weeks. It's his turn. End of story."
JetS Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:43pm ET"Its time for Clemes to come in, Chad Pennington is not the person to blame for the 1-5 start, it is everyone's fault, but there are 10 games left and why not take a glimpse of the future...WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.....#1 pick here we come."
Tree Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:47pm ET"Chad is by far not the only problem, but that does not mean he should be left in the game. His lack of a vertical passing game combined with his now expected bad interception or two per game magnifies the rest of the Jets weaknesses. There will not be a good running game if the field isn't stretched. And if they don't start making some sustained drives the defense is going to continue to give out."
sef Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 1:50pm ET"Question for Brandon, Nugent stinks?? Hummm... how did we get the 9 points yesterday?? Seems to me, he is the one bright spot on this team. We have not lost a game due to his performance. How many FG's did Philly miss yesterday?"
EJ Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:15pm ET"Once again it's wait until next year. The Jets still have the most pathetic offense in football. Totally predictable play calling, no imagination. Screen plays and play action only work if you keep the defense guessing. The question is, do the Jets call all short passes because Chad can't throw more than 15 yards downfield, or do the Jets think long controlled drives is the only way to to win"
Drew Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:18pm ET"Ira, I hated the QB sneak and the fade on 4th down. B-Schott had Chad in the Shotgun?? This is a bad play. TJ was not stopped for negative yrds all game and we decide to get cute..again. Even if we complete that pass it is a bad play. I love Coles but I hate that matchup with S Brown on a fade....On to Chad, it sounds awful but it might take an injury to get Kellen into a game. He is not the same"
Garrtye14 Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:27pm ET"Randy,You are the guy with the power,not us! Your smart enough to realize that the coaches don't read these "postings". You,Randy,can do a great service to The Jets and their fans.If you watched the "Fox" broadcast of the game,you realize that some excellent and constructive critiques were made by Darrell Johnston and Tony Siragusa. Mangini & Shott. would do well to watch tape of FOX broadcast"
Albone Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:33pm ET"Jets "O" and "D" are pathetic! Let's "spark" the offense and change QBs NOW, not LATER! Obviously, the team needs a boost! If I had to pick right now, the offense is worse than the defense...time to give Klemens a shot."
Garrtye14 Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:34pm ET"Sorry!One more thing to add:I believe that Bob Sutton has now proved that he is a most capable Defensive Coordinator! "
Schuyler Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 2:43pm ET"Here's a question for the Jets nation, who do we go after in next years draft?We have the QB (Kellen), the RB (TJ, LW), WR's (LC, JC), so i'm thinking defensive playmaker at DE or LB, maybe a guy like Chris Long, he sounds like he'll be good in a hybrid system and we really need someone to cause havoc in the backfield, besides Kerry Rhodes. I really believe that LE spot is where we can improve."
owen Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:11pm ET"The fact of the matter is that Chad Pennington has found a way to lose the last three games when the rest of the team has fought to keep them in it....Mangini must not be watching the same offense that we are..."
Row Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:31pm ET"Since most of my posts never make it on here, I'll go easy on the coaching staff. The offensive coordinator is COMPLETELY out of his league, I can't believe an average quarterback in Dallas is one of the best offensive coordinators in the game and ours can't call a run on 3rd and 1? Why are we "Throwing the ball up for grabs for an 8 yard gain?" I want to see Chad play, 20yds in the air, come on!"
Jeff Dolfini Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:36pm ET"Dude I am tired of Pennington not having the arm strength to get the ball to the recievers, our team needs a spark just like in 2002 when Pennington took us to the playoffs. It is time, if Mangini doesn't make the right move soon, I will start to question his coaching ability, what can it hurt?"
Schuyler Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:40pm ET"One more thing to add, Chris Long also played with D'brickashaw Ferguson at Virginia. "
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:42pm ET"Darrelle,you make it seem like everyone on the team is playing at a high level except for CHAD! I also am not against Clemens going in. I just think if you are going to replace Chad b/c of poor play, then we should do the same for every other player, Not one player on this team is playing in a way where they can point blame. Thats why Chad is not getting pulled yet. "
Mike Long Island Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:48pm ET"I just listened to the Mangini press conference today and he is in total denial over Pennington's terrible play this year. He never deals with Pennington directly in his answers; he always throws out the missed tackles, etc. Enough!Pennington IS the reason why we can't score points. He's the one who can't stretch the filed because his arm is shot. He's the one who lobs every pass! "
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:52pm ET"Sef, who defends a kicker? Plus is you were to ask Nugent if he stinks right now I would have to think he would say "yes" He is 7 for 11. He missed a big kick in Baltimore, an even bigger kick in Buffalo which by the way we lost that game by 3. He missed one against the Giants. And to make it 3 straight games he missed one Sunday vs Philly. With that said I would say he stinks right now!"
Bhalls Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 3:52pm ET"They should change Pennington's name to "The 8 million dollar man." I am glad you did your best and had a good practice, and made poor decisions in the preseason. This is football, you get paid to win, win. Winners win, good decision makers, MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. Good quarterbacks, SCORE POINTS. How could Eric when asked if he was thinking of a quarterback change immediately say, "no"? Randy?"
Tom O'Neill Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:05pm ET"With the struggling Bengals defense coming next week there is no reason not to give Clemens a shot."
CEONYONE Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:05pm ET"It's not Chad,Its not the running game,It's not even the game planning.It's the late game playcalling or lack of.(1st)On 3rd n 1 sombody call's a Qb sneak(2)Then they send the running back in motion against the blitz first ask Questions later eagels.And on 4th n 1 out of the shotgun formation they throw the play to the same Wr they do everyweek.Bad playcalling"
Todd Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:13pm ET"I have to say I am tired of listening to Mangini defend Chad! Chad is averaging 2 int over the last 3 games all coming at the worst possible time. Opposing Def stack the box wait on the run and if he throws they are there to break on the ball. No offense and the Def is is on the field 90% of the game. I want to be an NFL QB to Chad but there is one problem I have NO ARM! See its not hard to say"
Casey Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:34pm ET"Everyone seems to want to blame Chad for all of our shortcoming's this season....football is a team sport....regardless of that.....i think people seem to forget what it was like before Chad took over.....Vinny throwing interception after interception...or how about Foley....ring any bells? I think if your going to be pointing a finger at anyone, it should be Marty's little boy...."
tony Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:38pm ET"listen, i have been a jet fan my whole life! i have always trusted chad pennington but now it seems he is not making plays. poor throws especially! he cannot gun the ball, he just throws it high in the air looking like it will be an interception on every pass. by the end of this disgraceful season i hope for a quarterback switch. if chad does not get it together he might as well kick rocks!!!!!"
rob Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:46pm ET"you gotta put kellen in he did great agents the ravens. which is one of the tough defence. i like chad i really do but kellen arm is so much better and hes a better athlete. as for the accuracy he still young and he has that potential to be a great QB. as for the d they need more pass rush macnabb had all day to throw. the 3 best players thus far Jericho Cotchery, Thomas Jones, and Kerry Rhodes"
nyjetsfan in dc Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:56pm ET"does everyone forget what it was like to be a jets fan a lil over a decade ago? how about a 1-15 season? regardless of their current record, every true jets fan should appreciate CHAD PENNINGTON for his amazing accuracy, leadership and GIVING US A CHANCE. so please, give him one too. if the jets management would have seen fit to KEEP p.kendall we would had a veteran LG instead of our 3rd rookie OL"
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 4:59pm ET"The D played good, only gave up 16 points?! Thats damn good in my book. I say start Clemens, let Chad back up and be a mentor, he is a really great guy, and thats what hurts telling him to ride the bench for what he did to try and come back. But now i believe start Clemens and have Chad be his shadow to help him out and teach him. Chad should just retire and become a coach."
jet fan in chicago Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:02pm ET"I've been a Jet fan for my entire 38+ years on this planet. I grew up going to Shea and watching Walt Michaels' teams. In all my years, this is about as mad as I have ever been. There are so many things that disgust me, but here are my top 3: 1) How bad the D is-and how overrated Jonathon Vilma is. I don't care how many tackles he has-what is the average gain on those plays? I bet it's 5+ yds"
Alexander Villa Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:03pm ET"I was at the game. Surrounded by mindless idiots who call themselves JETS fans bashing every play and calling successful one's a 'miracle'. Chad Pennington is not producing something successfully with Marty Ball Jr. this year. Not to mention it took the defense almost five games to look 'good'.One man does not lose a game. The team loses. We'll see how he does. And support the Team. Go Green. "
Jet Fan in Chicago Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:10pm ET"Cont'd from my previous post: 2) Coaches that don't know what they're doing. I was unimpressed with Mangini last year, but that was blasphemony. A high schl team should have went 10-6 with that schedule. Team's play reflects his uninspriing persona. And if your name rhymes with Mottenheimer, I don't want you coaching my team. 3)D'Brick is a bust. Another game where he allows a blind side sack."
Darrell Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:19pm ET"Brandon, I didn't say the other guys you mentioned are playing well, I said an upgrade isn't on the roster at their respective spots. This is where Chad's situation is different. We have a 2nd-rd QB (who we traded up to get) that has been working well enough in the system to garner alot of attention. I say we let him play so we know whether we need another QB come next April. "
Cincy Jet Fan Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:19pm ET"What a sad finish to what at times, seemed like a good game. We finally got the running game back in motion, but the play calling has to be better than what is has been this year. You can complain about Chad's arm all day, but he completed both of the deep balls he threw in this game, only there were no more called after that. I'll be at the Cincinnati game because I'm a FAN, and we WILL WIN."
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:22pm ET"Kerry Rhodes is a beast, no doubt about that. But trade Vilma? Are you guys smoking crack? Just get another LB to help him out. Glenn Dorsey should be a nice pick in the draft this year going at this rate. "
Keith Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 5:54pm ET"And to think, we could still have Vinny starting instead of Chad. Anybody see what he did on a team he just signed with last week. Like I've been saying for the past 4 weeks, Play Clemens see if he can spark this team and at least turn a decent record. After the season, trade Chad and Dwayne Robertson for Lance Briggs, sign Haynesworth and the defense wil improve. "
Jet Fan in Chicago Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:01pm ET"Randy, why is no one killing them for this (you noted it in your blog briefly).... In the second quarter, third and goal from the 10 yard line - and the Jets (Chad) throws a 7 yard out pattern. The receiver makes the catch at the sideline and has no chance to score. So instead of a 27-yard field goal, they now have a 20-yard field goal. WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT ACCOMPLISH???? Wasted play."
Nestor Rodriguez Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:03pm ET"Again the chance to tie the game and it was blown to pieaces. Again the defense could not get one more stop for the so called offense that we have. I think Chad has done what he can for the Jets, but he is now hurting the team, just like Vinny was in 04 i think. It's time for Chad to step down and let KC get some time. To be honest if we go 2-14 I can be happy, only wins vs Miami that is. GO JETS!"
Drew Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:03pm ET"I am getting a little tired of the Same Old Jets talk. I agree we have played awful this year and Chad, B-Schott and coach Mangini have alot to do with it, but Same old Jets?? The last 9 years have produced some pretty good years. This is going to be a tough one though"
Drew Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:06pm ET"I have been trying to think why Chad is playing so badly this year. Even the Chad bashers would agree this does not look like the guy we used to see make great decisions with the ball. He never had a great arm but this year his play is really bad. Do you think he is feeling the pressure of Kellen and is trying to make plays he normally wouldn't???Did B-Schott offense fool people last year???"
Draz Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:06pm ET"Eric better start being more honest with the media and the fans. His rehearsed media scrums are getting pathetically boring. Not hearing anything new. Note to self Eric, better start being accountable to us or we will run you out of town. Someone remind him he is what he is - football coach not a litigator. Time to make him more accountable."
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:33pm ET"At this point I rather have Testaverde back rather than Chad. Bob Sutton showed great promise as defensive coordinator mixing in 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. He showed the Eagles many different faces of the D, maybe he can show Shotty how to do that with the O. Shotty isn't calling bad plays he just needs to switch it up some times. Clemens needs to start and i think Harris should get more playing time. "
Jake Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 6:43pm ET"Ray from Mass; Sorry about that !! I thought you were one of those Pat fans that comment from time to time!! I thought about jumping off a building yesterday but thought I would lash out at someone else instead. I guess frustation is starting to take over for all of us. I have followed them since the 60's. Hope we get a W in Dec. when you are there and I agree on the Parcells comment."
Robert Schonfeld Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:31pm ET"you call that tough they haven't played like they want to win and your calling them they are playing tough already look at the schedule"
king Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 7:52pm ET"i'm 48yrs.old been a jet fan since i'm 10yrs. old i'll be dead and buried berfore they win another superbowl..there diffently cursed..pennington should be playing badmitten with those wounded ducks!!!"
gino Said:
Mon, October 15, 2007 - 8:22pm ET"heres my only question to schotty . thomas jones had a huge day on the ground 3 and 1 u wanna try nd sneak the ball and 4 and 1 you go from shotgun? common now lets get serious . If u gave thomas jones 2 carrys in a row there is no doubt in my mind he would have picked up the first. how about darian barnes and stacy tutt, give them the ball."
Frank Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 12:21am ET"Hey Drew, Mangini has already lost the lockeroom when he traded their captain and best offensive lineman a week before the season. All the childish nonsense of Mozart, pop quizes and ridiculously long practices have burned the team out. The same message is being played out now with shoving Chad down everyone's throat it's not about winning it's about doing it Magini's way or the highway. "
G-Money Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 4:43am ET"This team could potentially be 5-1 as easily as they could be 0-6! funny that the jets have had a chance to win these games, except against the pats. Schotty is rediculous with the play calling, its like hackett all over again. Same old, same old. I always liked Chad but hes not the same. Its time to move on and see what we got in clemens. how long is mangini gonna wait? till we're 1-12?"
Charles Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 9:58am ET"Don't quote me on this but when we had Curtis Martin anytime the guy ran over a 100 yds. we pretty much most of the time came out with a win. T.Jones runs for a130 and we lose. I know complaining doesn't help but this team is killing me and it ruins my whole week every time they lose. Mangini never admits or says anything in his press C. Does he have any common sense? Speak like a man. Damn!"
Brian I Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 2:45pm ET"Randy, thanks for the response, maybe the questions are getting asked, it is just the responses that leave me more befuddled than before the question was asked. I know it is a fine line the media has to walk and I respect the work you are doing. I guess like most jets fans I am frustrated and would love a straight answer from the head man. Also on a side note I happened to like the Throwbacks!"
C.J. Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 4:42pm ET"Thomas Jones ran great, I won't argue with that. IN THE FIRST HALF. Thats just another example of inconsistency from the Jets. And about the Chad subject , I think him and Clemens should start to split time. Once we hit that eighth loss, we should start giving Clemens full time. Remember, it's not over till we get that eighth loss. "
tony Said:
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 10:08pm ET"ANGER HUH...my guess is the people that are buying the tickets to the games and spending their hard earned money not to mention all the agravations and stresses involved with having to go to the medowlands 8 times a seasons brings to watch this team loose over and over are probably a bit angrier than guys in uniform that get payed a ton of money indirectly from the pockets of the fans win or loose"
TONY Said:
Wed, October 17, 2007 - 12:49am ET"to...Angry Jet fan living in Florida..DITTO..ex ny'r..live in citrus county near ocala..like us though dolphin fans at least are loyal, unlike bucs fans..they only bucs fans as long as theyre winning...they loose a few and they all instantly become gator fans..ill never be a fan of any florida sport team ever either..live here, but born, raised and in heart will ALWAYS be a new yorker .PERIOD"
tony Said:
Wed, October 17, 2007 - 1:23am ET"BASED ON SOME PAST TEAM DICISIONS THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN: after a thanksgiving humiliation to Dallas for their 8th straight loss,at 1-10 they start Clemens, who gets wins in Miami and against Cleveland.. he becomes the starter by next yr only for us to realize after the jets let Pennington go that Clemens wont move out of the pocket and is sacked more than any other QB (hope you'll all be happy)"
deesto Said:
Wed, October 17, 2007 - 11:55am ET"Almost everyone is bashing Chad. Is he calling these 3/4&1 plays? On a 4&1 fade, he put the ball *exactly* where it needed to be: right in LC's hands, and where it couldn't get picked off. The DB made an excellent reach-over deflection. Nothing QB can do there but run the called play. And the QB had *multiple* passes over 20 yards in that game. Check how many "short" passes were dropped by WRs. "
Dave Scott Said:
Wed, October 17, 2007 - 1:34pm ET"I am not from New York, but have been a NY Jets fan ever since Joe Namath played for the team. I was truly ashamed to hear NY Jet fans cheering when Chad Pennington got hurt with a sprained ankle. How could they? How demoralizing is that? Show some spirit and get behind the team. Faith & support is exactly what the NY Jets needs now. Go Chad, go Jets. You will always be winners to me."
Dave Scott Said:
Thu, October 18, 2007 - 10:52am ET"Any fan can cheer their team when their winning, but a true fan will stand behind their team during a losing season with the same conviction."
JR Said:
Thu, October 18, 2007 - 11:28am ET"Randy...I know this will never go up the hill too management.....but.... What is it going to take for Mangini to see what we all see? Been a JET fan since 1966 and have to by a satelite scrip just to watch (i am now out of state)..Why all the lack luster leader ship and play?"
Chuck Bowling Said:
Thu, October 18, 2007 - 9:10pm ET"I have been a Jets fan all my life even through the 1-15 season and will remain a Jets fan through this season. I will be at the game in Cincinnati this Sunday and nobody will cheer louder than I will. Yes the playoffs are still a possibility and I believe so should everyone else. Go JETS"
giovanni Said:
Thu, October 18, 2007 - 11:14pm ET"i think you should put kelly clemens in for a coulple games. you should let him play. its not like you are gunna go on a winning streak. put him in see how he does.also get coles the ball every time there is single coverage. no one can cover him."
Dan Said:
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:22am ET"been a jet fan as long as i can remember watching football since 3 years old grew up watchin gastinue & kleco what is wrong with our D my sons peewee team could run on them and QB think id rather have Ken O'brien back there time to make a change"
Dan Said:
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 12:37am ET"draft lets talk about that how about getting some one good unlike derrel "toast" revis, because he gets burnt more than white,wheat and sourdough"
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Ira Said:
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 6:18pm ET"Randy, The good news 1st. Uniforms were great, Jones and o-line finally got the running game going, D stopped the Eagles twice to give them a shot to win, and no penalties. Now the bad news, Dyson 2 weeks in a row gives up a big play because of a missed tackle, Chad throws a costly INT,Graham shanks a punt and Nugent misses a FG again. Basically just too much inconsistent play all around."
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