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File Under: Darian Barnes, Ben Graham, Geelong Cats, Roger Craig, Rodney Hampton
10/06 — Before our quadrennial Jets-Giants rivalry gets renewed tomorrow at the Giants' home stadium, we bring you two more views on the matchup from the Green & White locker room.
You'd think that a guy like FB Darian Barnes, who grew up in Toms River at the Jersey shore, would have a favorite team from among the Jets and Giants, or even might have felt the pull of the Eagles from the southwest. And Barnes acknowledged that he was aware of all those teams. But others also influenced his football development.
"It's funny, but I didn't like any Northeast team," Barnes said. "But I kind of liked Roger Craig, so I was a 49ers guys. When I was growing up, the West Coast offense was the thing. I did like watching the Giants' Rodney Hampton, though."
But not so much that he remembers being a big fan of Hampton's Big Blue teammates. Conversely, he said he's not pumped up as a first-year Jet and a stick-it-to-'em fullback to pound the Giants a little harder for those proverbial braggin' rights that go all the way back to Weeb Ewbank.
"I couldn't care less about that," Barnes said. "This game is like any other game. Jersey or not, I'm just going to go out there and play."
Then there's Ben Graham, the Australian punter who could be excused for not having heard about the Jets or Giants as he matured. But Graham does have an interesting take on this rivalry talk for teams that share the Meadowlands but are allowed to meet so infrequently in the regular season.
"People can’t believe, especially in Australia, that we only play each other every four years — they can’t believe it," Graham told John Beattie, who produced the interesting article that went up on newyorkjets.com early this morning about Graham's Geelong Cats powering to the Australian Football League championship.
"They don’t even know we play in the same stadium, but the fact that we play them once every four years is huge. Not only do you play once a year, you’re two New York teams, tickets have been at a premium.
"Whether it’s a rivalry or not," Graham said, "I don’t think the players approach the game any different. Its more of a fans' rivalry mentality, which is fine. But rivalries, in my mind or my experience, don’t come from playing each other once every four years. They come from playing each other a lot in big games when the stakes are high — similar, I guess, to the Jets and the Patriots."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (13)Drew Said:
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 4:52pm EST"I knew alot of guys like D Barnes in school.....They are called "front runners" Barnes and I are around the same age and the 49ers were winning Super Bowls then. He must have been a LA Laker fan also....I never understood people like this. "
Drew Said:
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 4:59pm EST"Speaking of rivalries....I thought I had lost all of my Jet fan fire since the Bills game but my neighbors just stuck a huge NY Giants flag in the lawn!! After I told them it looked tacky we got into a pretty good football argument about Sunday. Glad to see the Jet juices flowing again. It looks like I have created a nice little rivalry with them.... Randy...Can I get a big Jet win this weekend??"
sal Said:
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 11:50pm EST"dont worry about the rivalry between the teams, i'm having more fun listening to tiki trying to make a career by knocking his old coach and team, i think the g-men are just getting over there star running back talking retirement mid season last year, which i think ended there season. Jets better be at the top of their game"
Ira Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 6:07am EST"Drew, Jets pick off Eli 2 or 3 times today. Jones goes for over 100 yds.Leo scores on a screen pass. GO JETS!"
Joe Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 8:15am EST"Ira - I've enjoyed your posts, but ... you may want to change your brand of whiskey. I love the Jets as much as anyone, but there's no way they win today - not with that defense. This D is the worst since the Kotite years - out-coached, out-schemed and out-played every single week (including preseason). This talk about Chad is hog-wash; the D is the problem. I sure hope I'm wrong about today ..."
Anthony Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 8:27am EST"It's hard to call someone a front runner when their favorite MLB team was the Expos."
Rick Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 8:59am EST"I live in Toms River Right across the street from where Barnes went to school. I will tell you it is mostly giant fans around here. Today is my cousins birthday party were any other day it would be a great family gathering. Except today the jets and giants play so the lines will be drawn. The Jets better not let me down I won’t here the end of it for the rest of the year"
Tom Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:02am EST"To Drew: It is possible that someone starts watching a sport and likes the best team and follows them. Front Runners change their team every season. Having known Darian Barnes, trust me he's no front-runner."
Tom Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:08am EST"Darian: Get pumped, I'm cheering against my team today for you to get a win. Maybe the coach will get you the ball for a couple first down receptions this game. Bg Blue isn't going to give much time in the pocket. They better look to you if they want a win."
Wayne Said:
Sun, October 7, 2007 - 11:16am EST"Randy, the rivalry means more to the fans than the players. Both teams are fighting to stay in contention and its just another game to them. Its a must win for the Jets if they are to have any chance of the playoffs as a wild card. The Giants need a win to stay close to Dallas. The Jets need their best defensive effort and a few turnovers will help if they are to beat the Giants. Go JETS!!!!!"
Mike Said:
Sat, October 20, 2007 - 10:52am EST"For Tom & Rick. You know Barnes alright. Let me guess-his lunch table in high school was 50 feet away from yours (the freaks and geeks) & sometimes your eyes met for a brief second and you got a tingly sensation. LOL He probably has no idea who you even are. I don't get why people care so much about knowing athletes and celebrities and go about their day bragging about it. "
Steve Said:
Sat, October 20, 2007 - 2:09pm EST"Its a shame. Barnes really is one of the best fullbacks in the game and he's not being used. "
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- trade Saints 3-4 4-3,
- Trades,
- Training,
- training camp,
- training complex,
- Trent Green,
- Trevor Johnson,
- Trina,
- Troy Aikman,
- Trusnik,
- Tuck,,
- Tutt,,
- Uganda Burundi,
- undrafted free agents,
- University,
- University of Phoenix Stadium,
- University of Pittsburgh,
- Ups,
- Vernon,
- Victory Monday,
- video,
- videotaping,
- Virginia Oakland,
- Vonnie Holliday,
- W.,,
- Walt Michaels,
- Walter Jones,
- Washington,
- Washington Catholics,
- Washington Jr.,
- Waverly Wonders,
- Wedge,
- Weeb Ewbank Hall,
- Week 8,
- Wes Welker,
- West Coast,
- white jerseys,
- white pants,
- white uniforms,
- wideouts,
- Wild Card Weekend,
- Will O'Toole,
- Woody,
- workouts,
- YAC,
- Zach Catanese
Ira Said:
Sat, October 6, 2007 - 4:05pm EST"Graham is right its all about the fans. The players don't get caught up in this rivalry stuff. Back in 1969 that 1st preseason game well then it was big. Not now. At 1-3 it doesn't matter who they play they just have to win.Still think the Jets come up big tomorrow. Jets 24 -Giants 20"
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