'I Respect the Commissioner's Decision'
Published: Fri, September 14, 2007 - 10:52am EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: pennington, eric, Commissioner, ClemensChad, ManginiRoger, GoodellNew, EnglandKellen
09/14 — Eric Mangini stayed on message for reporters and fans hoping to hear a little more about his and the Jets' reaction to penalties levied by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on the New England Patriots for their sideline videotaping at Sunday's season opener.
"I understand there's going to be a lot of interest and questions related to the ruling yesterday," the Jets head coach said at his morning news conference today. "What I can say is that I respect the commissioner's decision. Anything related to that decision is a league matter. That's all I can say about it. I hope you can respect that."
Possibly all the reporters in the room did respect that, but they still threw several more questions about the ruling. Mangini's message remained the same:
"I understand the interest in this, I appreciate that," he said after one question, "but anything associated with the matter, that's all I can really add."
Mangini also was asked about his quarterback situation for Sunday's game at Baltimore, and one thing he didn't say was that Kellen Clemens will get the start ahead of sore-ankled Chad Pennington, something that several newspapers have reported.
"We have today, we're going to look at it today," he said. "Chads moving along in his rehab. Each day we evaluate it, so we'll look at it today, see his progress. The program's been in place, and it's Chad. He's been as diligent as ever."
Westhoff Back to Ground Level
Special teams coordinator Mike Westhoff, due to his leg issues, went up to the coaches' booth for the first time in his coaching career for the New England game. He said today that he'll be back in his familiar place on the sidelines for the Baltimore game and beyond.
"I'm coming back down," he said. "I don't like it up there. But you can see great. Unfortunately, you see some things too well."
I'll have more with Mike in my Special Teams Saturday blog.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (45)Ira Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 11:38am EDT"Randy, Eric can't respond any different. You know how i feel.Goodell didn't handle this the right way. Wouldn't be shocked if Chad does start this week."
Frankm Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:13pm EDT"What do you Jets fans want as a penalty. Have Belichick executed? The commisioner gave the Pats the maximum penalty allowed. The commisoner also stated that the video had no impact on the outcome of the game. Don't forget Mangini was part of our organization. So he must of cheated before as well."
SanDiegoPete Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:17pm EDT"Coach Magini must be proud. The guy who gave him the biggest opportunity of his life, working for the Browns, then grooming him through the Patriots, he just destroyed Belicheks reputation. I hope Eric got what he wished for."
Schuyler Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:27pm EDT"I'm glad this mess is over with and we can start talking football. I hope Chad is the qb this weekend, the Jets need his intelligence against the Ravens d. I'm expecting alot of screen plays to Leon this weekend, with ryan's blitz happy defense, lets hope they can stop Mcgahee for once. Go Jets!"
Howard Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:44pm EDT"concerning then punishment for billy boy and the pats if some of the things i heard and read were right the punishment is way to soft. that this guy was on the jets sidelines with a photographers vest on basically right next to the jets bench.....some is hard to believe but were talking billy boy "
Anonymous Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 12:54pm EDT"why can't you just support the team and who it has play QB from what I saw Clemens didn't do anything when he got in there at least Chad can score."
Steve Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 1:19pm EDT"The Jets got hosed? Come on now, Belicheck has stood up and took responsibility, now the whining Jets fans want to have the PATS lost the victory?? Puhhlease, stop whining and realize New England is better coached, a better team and has better fans. The Yankees are going down next!"
JC Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:04pm EDT"the video had no effect on the game as it was take in the begining of the 1st quarter so no compensation "
eric Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:37pm EDT"The more I think about it, the more I beleive that the Pats should have forfeited the game. When one cheats in a game, it cannot be determined the exact effect. Hence, in many cases, those caught cheating forfeit the game. Horse racing and track and field come to mind. "
eric Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:41pm EDT"For Goodell to calculate the influence on the game result, is like someone saying that so-and-so who won the 100 meters in 9.86 would have run a 9.92 if not for the amphetimine so we give him 9.92 in that race. Of course this is absurd. The runner is dq'd--period. No need to estimate the effect."
Rob Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:54pm EDT"We not only got hosed, but embarassed. New England should have to forfeit that game as well as been find higher and lose its top 3 (including the San Francisco draft pick next year) draft picks for the next two years. Roger Goodell was too easy on the Patriots."
Jason Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:56pm EDT"Steve said "The Yankees are going down next!" Does this guy realize that the majority of Jets fans are Mets fans? The cheating had no outcome on the Jets game. As a Jets fan I know this, we got shelled. What is in queston is if the cheating helped them win 3 of 6 Super Bowls."
JOHNNYJET Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 2:57pm EDT"I DON'T REPECT THE DECISION. BELICHEAT SHOULD BE SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY WITHOUT PAY!! AND TAKEN BOTH OF THEIR #1 PICKS AWAY NEXT YEAR!!"
Schuyler Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:06pm EDT"Man, New England fans are obsessed with NY, coming to the Jets website and posting negative things about Jets and Yankee fans. One world series victory and suddenly the sox are better? lol. Anyway, go Jets, 15 games to go and we have a division to win. Silence the critics. "
Michael Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:07pm EDT"Im a huge Jets fan and do not like the pats at all, punishment was handed down and bill took full responsibility and took it like a man so lets just put behind and continue the rest of the season and not worry about it. GO JETS!!"
mike Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:07pm EDT"If I were Jets Management I would be thinking about what I actually got when I signed mangini. Defensive genius? No wait, he wasn't involved in that stuff when he was defensive cooridinator with the pats, right?I think he has no idea what he just did. He has lost all credibility among his peers"
Don Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:08pm EDT"the video had no effect on the game at all. was it wrong? Absolutely. But hey, we might get their 1st round pick out of it.... i can't complain about that"
rich Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:13pm EDT"Until the punishment really hurts the offender, he or others so inclined will continue to try to cheat the system. The Pats hould have forfeitted the two first-round draft picks and been made to forfeit last week's game, Belicheck should have been suspended for the season. "
Pat Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:31pm EDT"The Pats are definitely a better team. Agreed. The Pats took an unfair advantage over the Jets. They most likely would have won the game without the spying, but you can' tell for sure, can you? The Pats should lose the game. Second solution: replay the match"
Doug Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 3:36pm EDT"Roger Godell had too say that it didn't affect the outcome of the game. What else could he have said? My guess is that the Patriots will struggle in the coming weeks without being able to cheat. 1 or 2 plays a game is all the difference between a win and a loss."
njphones Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 4:31pm EDT"Comsh. Godell said this was (and I quote) "a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field". I thought that fact was missing from your post, Randy. Sort of the thing you might not want to miss. (TOOK DOWN: NJPHONES MISSTATED AND APOLOGIZED)"
Randy Lange Said:
"njphones, I didn't miss it. That statement was in my news story that was posted late last night. "
Ed The Jet Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 4:54pm EDT"wow guys talk about slap on the wrist. 500,000 to belicheeter why not ask for 5.00 I like the commish. but wow can you get anymore slaps in the face? look just be hard when needed this was a travesty I mean why bother even doing anything? what about a 5 week suspension take away what he loves. wow.."
Joe Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 5:38pm EDT"Forfeit was never a real possibility, but those picks should have gone to the Jets. In any event, Belicheck's legacy is forever tainted. He fostered CHEATING in a devious, calculated way. Would they have still have beaten the Jets on Sunday? Sure, but NE fans have to live with the legacy ..."
Ira Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 5:44pm EDT"Why hasn't Gene Upshaw commented on the Pats deal? If his players get suspended for games then coaches should face the same. Goodell would've suspended a coach if it wasn't a high profile team and coach like the Pats and Belichick. I still can't believe he let him slide. Also very bad E.G. for kids."
Drew Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 5:50pm EDT"If it were not for New York teams all of the Boston fans would not know what to do with themselves.Funny how they defend their "genius" Beli-cheat. Pull down your filthy Redsox cap,shave your scruffy beard, finish your chowder and get ready for the Yanks & Bolts to ruin your weekend. Go Jets!!!"
Ira Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 6:36pm EDT"NFL.Com is reporting that Clemens will start Sunday. Tuff task for his 1st start but i expect him to play well and fill in until Chad is ready to comeback. For sure you won't see a repeat of the Bollinger game. They'll need to spread the Ravens out early and pass so they can set up the run. GO JETS!"
Gregg from CA Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 6:49pm EDT"Howard mentioned something that was implied in some news stories that I think was in error. Could you please clarify, Randy? Was the camera on the Jets' sideline or the Patriots? Was the photog detained by Jets' security or NFL security? Some stories made it look like the Jets were the complainants."
Gregg from CA Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 6:54pm EDT"The concept of the Jets being the whiners here seems to be unfairly applied. Also, thinking that the Jets deserve some form of compensation for one proven incident is silly compared to the enormity of the alleged impact on teams in previous games (as noted by losing players recently interviewed)."
Gregg from CA Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 7:17pm EDT"Posted: 1 hours 47 minutes ago Clemens to start against Ravens on Sunday NFL.com Wire Reports The NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting that New York Jets quarterback Kellen Clemens will start Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens in place of injured starter Chad Pennington. Hype or truth?"
Dave Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 7:33pm EDT"I don't think suspending Belichick would have done anything special. I also don't think the picks should have gone to the JETS, besides how many other teams would be looking for draft picks, because they were cheated on."
JP Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 8:24pm EDT"Too lenient . The Dallas coach is suspended a few games for HGH, it is ludicrous that no Patriot was. Goddell has been batting .1000 but he missed the mark on this one. Nothing that he did will effect the current Patriot team that cheated this year and the Jets get nothing. Go Mike and Go JETS!"
Drew Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 9:29pm EDT"How about an apology from Bob Kraft? He was the first to make comments about team"Jets" trying to attack the Patriots because of the success they have had. Maybe he should know what his staff is doing before running his mouth. Stop locking Mangini out of his old NE office and watch your silly coach "
Drew Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 11:42pm EDT"I would have loved to see Mike's range of emotions during the 2nd half kickoff while he was up there. He must have been thrilled to see Hobbs bring that kick out 8 yrds deep..then must have had a heart attack when Bowens wiffed on his tackle at the 12. I'm suprised he didn't jump from the box"
Pete Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 10:47am EDT"Way too lenient on this one. Godell has tried to reinstate credibility to the league. He's done an excellent job with the players. I'm a die hard Jets fan, but I don't think it's about us. Belichick should be suspended for a long time. Godell is leaving himself wide open for cries of racism."
Harry W Smith Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 10:48am EDT"I have new name for for the NE coach, tricky Bill. Harry Go Jets"
angry young man Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 4:20pm EDT"yes, the pats should have had to forfeit, even if the filming didn't really affect the game and the draft pick penalty is severe. but more severe is the loss of bell-o's reputation. as danielson said during the gator game: [ainge] didn't [succeed] the bill belichick way. he did through film study."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 12:18am EDT"They should have given the Jets that #1 pick. Who knows how long this has been going on...last years playoff game? Makes you think.....What about Mangini ...What does he know? In my mind , Mangini left because he was sick of Bill , and wanted to play honest football...Give the 3 rings back Pats"
Tony Said:
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 1:04am EDT"I believe the court of public opinion will be harsher on the Patriots organization than the commissioner. Their team has been exposed as dishonorable and now they must live with the shame of it."
John Said:
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 10:54am EDT"i think belichick is very sneaky. The NFL should watch this guy very closely. Look at all the players around the league that had commented on this issue. People wonder why everyone dislikes the Patriots, especially us Jet fans. "
VICKIE MEEHLING Said:
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 12:43pm EDT"Money penalty means nothing in their league. It is like $1 to the common person. Consequences is the key - they should have stronger penalties."
Charles Haynes Said:
Mon, September 17, 2007 - 1:41pm EDT"Long time Jets fans....I think Mangini has some skeletons in his closet too."
scott frank Said:
Mon, September 17, 2007 - 1:47pm EDT"Im a Pats fan and BB did screw up. If you watched Goodall last nite you heard all 32 will comply. Wonder how Mangini will feel when other teams fall. Tough to be a whistle blower merely because he just wanted to get BB. Better ways to handle it. I agree with the commissioners ruling. we deserve it."
brennan Said:
Wed, September 19, 2007 - 4:06pm EDT"I am also a Pats fan, Belichek was both arrogant and wrong, no excuses. The penalty,loss of a first rounder - pretty harsh, but hey my team was wrong. Took courage for mangini to do what he did, whistle blowing, also burned some of his bridges."
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Joe Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 11:20am EDT"The Pats and especially Belicheck got their just due, but the Jets got hosed. What's the compensation for being CHEATED??? The Jets should have gotten the draft pick(s) that NE forfeited. It's just not fair. If I were Woody Johnson, I would be livid."
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