Jets Don't Want to Go to the Videotape
Published: Wed, September 12, 2007 - 6:29pm EDT
By Randy Lange
Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.
File Under: Chad Pennington, Thomas Jones, Bryan Thomas, Kerry Rhodes, Hank Poteat
09/12 — The Green scene Wednesday was one of the embodiments of that alleged Chinese proverb and curse, "May you live in interesting times."
The Jets were doing their best to remind everyone that their focus was on their own investigation of how to beat the Ravens this coming Sunday rather than the NFL's investigation of the Patriots' videotaping of the Jets' sidelines this past Sunday.
"I don't get into that," RB Thomas Jones said. "That's an NFL security issue. I'm here to play football."
So were such other locker room notables as S Kerry Rhodes — "I'm not really going to elaborate on this too much — LB Jonathan Vilma — "I'm not worried about it at all" — and CB Hank Poteat, who has made multiple stops with both the Pats and Jets and expertly backpedaled on all attempts at a TV interviewer to elicit any interesting opinion on Videogate.
I even tried engaging rookie LB David Harris in the subject. He's already a veteran at changing subjects. "It's funny no one has wanted to talk to me about Michigan," he said. Oh, yeah, David, sorry about those Wolverines.
Another funny line came from the other interesting situation this week surrounding the Jets quarterbacks. Bryan Thomas and stool got pushed away from his locker along the southern edge of the Jets' locker room due to another throng of reporters checking in with Kellen Clemens at the locker to his left. This after spending the previous two seasons with Curtis Martin two lockers to his right.
"After Curt left," BT said, "I thought I was safe."
Normally at practice, most reporters stand on the sidelines of the Jets' upper grass field rather than turning 60 degrees to their left and watching the lower grass field. But today most TV and still cameras were trained on that lower field because that's where the QBs were working individually.
Chad Pennington was there, his right ankle wrapped but standing and participating, somewhat. He was catching throws from Clemens and Marques Tuiasosopo, but he wasn't winding up and throwing them back.
Pennington is one of six Jets lists on today's first injury report of the week as having limited participation in practice. Others on the list are Jones, DBs Andre Dyson, Justin Miller and Eric Smith, and guard Brandon Moore. That list feels a lot less painful than the Ravens' which has six players not practicing at all today after their physical Monday night affair with the Bengals, among them LB Ray Lewis, QB Steve McNair, T Jonathan Ogden, CB Samari Rolle and former Jets TE Daniel Wilcox.
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (38)Dave Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 8:32pm EDT"I hope that the NFL awards one of the Pats draft picks to the Jets. Considering that the win will not be forfeited, the Jets should be rewarded in some fashion for the Pats cheating."
A57moon Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 9:57pm EDT"Hold on, you mean the patriots SHARED this tape with us? How NICE of them.....I wonder though, was it the PS3 or PS2 version?"
Joseph Ray Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 9:58pm EDT"Obviusly the 3-time "world champs" felt the definitive need to cheat against the Jet-threat. What respect I had for them (even as rivals) I spit on. Joseph Ray, Las Vegas"
Dan Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 10:55pm EDT"Love my Jets-but I am frustrated! The O line has to block better, Chad needs to get the ball out and hit receivers quicker, the D plays great in spots, lthough the 3-4 is not looking great. I think we can score points with all of the weapons we have, and the secondary plays hard. Lets tighten up!"
Pete Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 11:22pm EDT"I've said for years that Belichick is by far the best coach I have ever seen. He beat the Rams with Otis Smith at corner! I am also embarassed to admit that I thought we did great getting a 1 rounder for him. The best coach in the NFL has forever tarnished his legacy. Thank you old HC of the NYJ!"
crew1954 Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 2:07am EDT"The league announced the appropriate punishment for the Pats for the video issue in last Sundays game will be to allow the Jets to have 2 cameramen stationed next to the NE DC for the game in Foxboro. The NFL offered to loan the cameras to the Jets, Manginin stated he had stat of the art cameras DC"
Michael Babbitt Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 8:07am EDT"Its funny that the last job Mangini had was the pats Defensive Coach. This job gave him tohe opportunity to be a jets coach, it appears to me that he knew where to look because he had been guilty of this before. He should worry about his team, and his own coaching. Plenty to worry about there."
Hal Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 9:15am EDT"They have to upgrade on talent on both sides of the line. They gave up sacks with three men rushing! Maybe Fergason and Mangold are over-rated?"
Bruce Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 9:16am EDT"With the talk about giving up draft picks and fines, what do the Jets get, since we are the ones they broke the rules against? FORFEIT the game, that will stop it from happening again, with any team."
Dunnie Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 10:10am EDT"Is it me ... or does anyone else think that people are missing the biggest issue here. We got completely out muscled last Sunday ... we simply looked weak next to the Pats lines. What is the deal ?? Are our players just not strong enough to compete ?? I thought Brick was supposed to be "the man" !"
Rob Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 11:07am EDT"Any of you jet fans who think 20 seconds of video is why we whooped you so bad are crazy. You guys just are not as good as the pats. Get ready for a 6-10 record this year. Mangini made the biggest mistake for you jets fans by ratting out Bill. Get ready to reap the whirlwind jets fans. LOL!!"
Schuyler Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 11:12am EDT"Why aren't the Jets exploiting defenses with their talented wideouts? They can split four wide and get mismatches all day. Coles and Cotchery are good for possesion, than put Stuckey and Mccairens in the slot with their speed. Jones and Washington can have a field day on draw plays and underneath. "
Todd Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 12:10pm EDT"The Patriots should forfeit the game even though they would have beaten us anyway. Cheating is cheating and if your going to do the crime be prepared to do the time. A draft pick will not hurt the Pat's with Kraft's $ pockets. I truly hope Clemens airs it out this weekend some offense would be nice"
Aidan Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 12:33pm EDT"O and D-lines both were bad due to Pats knowing the plays that were intercepted by hand signals and Quarterback to Coordinator radio waves. Notice the large amount of radio frequencies used by the Pats which they have no explanation for which means they have been snooping on the Jets every play. "
Larry Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 1:39pm EDT"If the Pats cheated, the NFL should punish them severely for compromising the integrity of the game and placing a shadow over their superbowl wins. The NFL should strip the Pats of their 1st draft pick, change the win to a tie, suspend the coach 2 games."
Jeff Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 3:46pm EDT"I don't understand, take a look at the formula racing world. Mclaren gets caught cheating, they're banned from winning the overall this year. That's what they should do to the pats. Ban them from the playoff this year."
YanksRus Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 5:15pm EDT"Rematch baby. You can't exclude them from the playoff's that's stupid. Somehow I doubt this is something that only the pats do. They'll be under the leagues eye for the remainder of the season. They can't afford to do anything else. We get another shot at them anyway"
Ira Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 7:42pm EDT"Randy, Good to see the players are not getting caught up in this. Goodell will deal with it. Can't let this get in the way of preparing for the Ravens."
Drew Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 8:30pm EDT"Funny how Rob forgets how the Jets lined up in New England last year and ran the ball down the Pats throat with K.Barlow..and beat Brady down..By the way the Pats and Brady should be thanking the Jets.That beating (and Bradys crying) made Kraft re-do the whole field. Stop cheating and calm down son!"
Jason Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 9:26pm EDT"How foolish the comments that lay below. Goodell has determinded and made clear that the video tape did NOT have an impact in the Jets 38-14 loss to the Patriots. I'm dissapointed in the way Mangini treated the situation. His opportunity to coach the Jets was led by Belichick."
frank Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 10:48pm EDT"Jet will be lucky to win 3 games, Eric will be lucky to make it thru this season. He just gave the Pat's a reason to crush every team there face."
Pete Said:
Thu, September 13, 2007 - 11:47pm EDT"We got manhandled that game sign stealing or not. However, the most talented and well coached team in the league feels the need to cheat against the Jets? I know Belichick has no social skills but I thought he had integrity. I'll never look at him the same. All of his rings are dirty. Little Barry!"
Phil Stortz Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 5:15am EDT"Well how many superbowls have just been tantated. I an =m a cots fan and I feel if you broke the rules and cheated there should have been a forfit by the pats plus the fines. If you watched the game two miscues at the end of the half and score 14 14 they never would have brought the ball out "
Anonymous Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 1:54pm EDT"Bill has tainted the Patriots and should step down."
Drew Said:
Fri, September 14, 2007 - 5:39pm EDT"Beli-cheat should learn to cheat people with a little more respect and maybe he won't get his hand caught in the cookie jar. If he respected Mangini the BIG BAD PATS would see no reason to cheat and break a well published league rule against the Jets and his former Pats coach. Go get whooped by LT!!"
Vin Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 6:12am EDT"Your coach took part in all this "cheating" while with the Pats..(as he does now...along with all other coaches). The Jets Beat the Pats last year...so explain to me how this video tapping helps?? Don't forget about the remote controlled Football that was flown to Moss with 3 defenders in his dust."
Vin Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 6:20am EDT"I would be more concerned with the fact you so called fans boo'd your starting quarterback while he was hurt. You will never be a great orginization because your Fans are arrogant J-E-R-K-S Jerks Jerks Jerks."
john Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 10:25am EDT"just because you cheat doesnt mean you'll win everytime. second mangini was def. cordinator , and the the pats were stealing def. sigles so they were trying to help there off. third mangini works for the jets now , so why would he let beli-cheat get away w/ it. on his home turf noless"
Pete Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 10:28am EDT"All you Pats fans should stop poppin' nonsense and say thanks. You'd still be watching Bledsoe break your hearts if Mo Lewis didn't blow through your line and level him. You've proven to be classless and dirty. A little humility would be nice, but that's a lot to ask for a team named after a region!"
Bryan Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 10:52am EDT"On the Pats, It makes you wonder how much of their recent success could be attributed to videotaping?"
Chris Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 11:30am EDT"Please don't come here and troll. As Patriot fans, it is ironic that you complain about Jets fans by coming to THEIR forum and trolling. As bad as NY fans can be, I remember when Reggie Jackson had to wear a batting helmet in the outfield at Fenway because fans were throwing bottles."
Drew Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 11:49am EDT"Funny since that game last year when we destroyed Brady in NE, the Jets cannot seem to get near him?? I think a little panic might have set in with your coach after that beat down. Desperate times call for desperate measures Vin. By the way check your orginization before Parcells..not a pretty sight"
Robert Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 12:03pm EDT"Vin, people are just so dumb its scary, incase people didn't tell you the Jet fans also cheered when pennington came back into the game, so please know all the facts before you start spitting out crap, also the Pats clearly wouldn't video tape and risk getting caught if it didn't help them"
One Patriot Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 12:37pm EDT"If the Patriots are only good because of the video and they are not going to be able to do that anymore, then they should start losing alot of games, right? In that case, if they crush everyone on their way to another super bowl, what does that mean? "
mike Said:
Sat, September 15, 2007 - 9:51pm EDT"our fans are not jerks dude its just that you cant understand our aggressiveness if youve ever been to our games youll notice a brotherhood....and dont flaunt other teams colors cause youll prob wind up in a fight with one or two of our crazed fans!!! represent ny how it is..."
Steve Said:
Thu, September 20, 2007 - 11:24am EDT"So...one week later and the Jets are now 0-2 and the Pats dismantled the Chargers by a whopping score of 38-14. Sound familiar? Fox Sports showed the tape on air and there is nothing on it. You lost because you team is in the wrong league. When the Jets lose to the Pats again in December, Coach Belichick will run up the score higher than any of you can count. Have fun losing to Miami!!!"
gio Said:
Fri, September 21, 2007 - 5:09pm EDT"one word for all of the pats fans and coaches in the league who think mangini is a rat: serpico. or i guess he should have just went with the program while people around him were cheating the system..nobody doubts pats are great, you shouldn't have to cheat trying."
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Drew Said:
Wed, September 12, 2007 - 7:35pm EDT"Classic move by the staff and the players. Let the league deal with this nonsense and get ready for Baltimore. If we can somehow come out of this game with a W that would be huge.... I am a little nervous for either Chad or Kellen. I saw the video tape of the Ravens D signals...they blitz alot!! LOL"
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