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File Under: Vikings, Chad Pennington, Eric Barton, Jonathan Vilma, Adrian Peterson
08/18 — The Jets' postgame locker room Friday night was not a happy place. Players weren't suicidal, nor should they have been. But they were this side of ticked off, which is what you'd like to see in a team that has a healthy self-image yet still fell at home to the Minnesota Vikings by 37-20.
"One word? It stunk. That's the only word you get," said LB Jonathan Vilma, who actually used another S-word to describe the experience. "It is what it is. We have to be glad it's not the regular season. All we can do is get better."
"As an individual, I don't think it's concern," Chad Pennington said of his feelings about the game after he completed nine of 10 passes, just as he did vs. the Vikings in the '05 preseason — although two of those completions were to Vikings defenders Darren Sharper and Chad Greenway, who took the picks for touchdowns. "It's a disappointment and a want-to, to just get it fixed."
One thing that most irritated the defense were a few nice Minnesota runs, none nicer than rookie Adrian Peterson's burst out of CB Andre Dyson's tackle attempt near the line for a 43-yard gain. It was the longest preseason run yielded by the Jets since the Giants' Tiki Barber went 54 yards in the 2002 preseason and the second-longest run given up in any game, pre- or regular season, in the Meadowlands since '02 behind Willis McGahee's 57-yard TD bolt for the Bills last December.
"I don't think that was a scheme issue," head coach Eric Mangini said, "as much as it was an execution issue on the perimeter."
It was also a Peterson issue. Barton, who again was active at the point of attack, admired what the Oklahoma rookie brought to New Jersey.
"I thought he as really impressive. He looked good. I'm sure the Vikings are happy with him," Barton said. "I think he's a lot faster than I imagined him to be." Peterson finished with eight carries for 70 yards, including a muscular 3-yard TD burst that made it 21-6 in the second quarter.
The solution is simple, although not necessarily easy, said LB Eric Barton.
"First of all, do not panic," Barton said. "Watch the tape and fix what you did wrong. There's no other options. Work harder and hopefully next week we'll play better. ... We'll be all right."
"I think things weren't as bad as they looked," said safety Erik Coleman, who ranged well to break up a long ball intended for Troy Williamson early in the game. "There are some things we need to work on. But we're not accustomed to giving up plays like that. Even though it's the preseason, we demand nothing but the best out of each other."
No one was in the mood to look ahead to the next preseason game, against the Giants next Saturday night.
"It starts with Sunday," Pennington said, referring to the next training camp practice for the Jets back at Hofstra. "Our practices aren't like other people's practices, normal practices. They throw a lot of stuff at us. ... Whatever Coach has in store for us, we'll be ready. He probably has a few tricks up his sleeve for us this week, and we'll motivate ourselves."
"The Giants? It's definitely too early to talk about the Giants," Vilma said. "We've got to work on the Jets."
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (33)catrina anderson Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 1:07am ET"1st of all, as the official number one jets fan, I have to say... J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!! And, YES i was expecting more than I got tonight from my favorite team... BUT!!!!!.... it's just preseason!! If preseason had any say in the rest of the season.... than I would have lost all hope in 2006!"
Dave Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 1:48am ET"Bad game.. I think they should all chase the cat like Rocky chased the chicken in rocky 1 and then run a lap around NJ... hopefully they will learn from this and pull it together..."
Christopher Gearin Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 2:54am ET"I have one question....where is the long ball I do not think there were any passes over 25 yards all game....no wonder there were so many picks...everyone expects the short passes from Pennington."
king Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 5:46am ET"that defensive line looked like swiss cheese as for vilma i don't think i heard his name called once,tackles for loses are few an far between.if we can't stop the run it's going to be a long season"
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 6:41am ET"Peterson is the real deal. If Tutt will be out for awhile Pociask could make the team. He opened my eyes with that TD pass. Pouha was blown off the line a couple of times. That was really disappointing. Barrett should have had 2 INT's. Back to the drawing board. Lots of work needs to be done."
Drew Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 7:15am ET"I know it's preseason but... unless Chad take some shots downfield every D we play will have the same plan. They jump every short route, even completions are scary. Randy did Chad attempt a pass over 12 yrds?? I hope Schotty is setting up double moves by the WR's after this..... Where is Ira??"
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 7:19am ET"Well Banks must be out of the picture with Ware getting most of the carries after Leon. He looked good at times but he still doesn't hit the hole without dancing 1st. He has some potential. Do you really want to go into the season with him as the #3. Still think they have a short list of vets. CD?"
evan Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 7:55am ET"One good way to look at it is that if we didnt give them 21 points on offense it would have been a much closer ball game... Other than the long Peterson run i thought the D looked pretty stout...."
njphones Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 7:58am ET"A dissapointment. I hope that they can use this game as motivation and learn from it, otherwise it looked like the same old Jets. Chad stunk it up. They can redeem themselves next week vs. the Giants, but I honestly thought they would be more competitive than they were. YUCH!"
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 8:18am ET"No the cat was a good thing. Last time i remember a cat on a field was during the Mets vs Cubs game at Shea in 68. They won the the World Series and the Jets won the Super Bowl. Maybe its a good omen.GO JETS!!!!"
Jake Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 8:59am ET"I think some team laps are in order we crashed and burned!!! I will take a lap myself because I was getting a little over confident about this year too!! I think it will just help us grow and realize we have to stay focused one game at a time! We will get there !!!! CHIN UP AND GO JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Pranit Sethi Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:07am ET"Am still recovering from last night. I love Chad, but now really, does anyone think we can win a Super Bowl with his arm strength? I expected to see moderate zip on the ball with the health off season...but nada...come on chad, gear up.... and DEFENSE,,,did it look even worse than last yr? porous.p"
gary ferrucci Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:21am ET"very good stuff from brad smith. todays qb must be able to roll,stay calm,and show his arm. brad did all of it. we have to use his tallents now before its to late"
JimE Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:27am ET"At least overconfidence won't be an issue. Sometimes a whipping like that brings everyone back to reality and forces the team to work harder. I'm also glad we played Minny last year, they look a lot better. "
Anonymous Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:30am ET"I love the Jets always will and this game did not change that for me..just hope they can change whatever is broken...and it seems that they did not play as a team???"
viveca Elworthy Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:53am ET"year after year our lines are pushed around. Why do we insist on playing 3-4 when we don't have the personel? Wilma is lost in this system. Why not trade him and pick up a stout powerful nosetackle. we have great roleplayers, but not enough cloggers. Brick seems to be a disappointment."
MikeMetal Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 10:55am ET"Last night was a big dissapointment. I know this is preseaon, but in years past with all teams, certain traits can carry into the reg. season. The entire team needs to fix these mistakes and fix them now, otherwise all could be for not. I have confidence that Mangini will work to do just that."
boob Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 11:36am ET"How bad do you think coles's leg injury is? "
troy Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 11:37am ET"Im not worried about Pennington,he's known to bounce back from his mistakes.The defense on the other hand is hideous,i think the regret of not getting a 350 lb plus nose tackle is setting in a little D rob and Pouha are to small cant keep the guards off J Vil and bart.run d has to improve or 8-8...."
alex morizio Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 12:11pm ET"It clearly was a disappointing game. But even in the face of defeat there was some positives. Justin Mccareins looks like he's ready to have a great season, and be a very important number 3 receiver; leon washington is showing why he is so valuable, and david harris was all over the place."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 2:03pm ET"Smith,Wright and Washington did a nice job on KO returns. 7 -167 yds but only a 23.8 yd avg. They clearly miss Miller who had a 28.3 yd avg last season. Those 5 yds make a big difference. Keep or eyes on the G. Warren situation in Denver. Would not be surprised if the Jets have some intrest."
evan Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 2:16pm ET"I would say just bad enough to miss a couple practices this week---lol. The D only surrendered 16 points--- just saying..."
Nick Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 2:38pm ET"Where was the "D" in the first quarter. Thanks Minnie for taking Peterson out of the game.The rookie made us look bad. But i have faith that Magic Man will correct he problem. But i believe we either get a real big dude in the nose position or our line backers in for a long season"
Drew Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 2:54pm ET"Can someone tell me why Pouha has lost 40 lbs?? We complain that D-rob is too small at 305 and now we have this guy cut weight to get down to 300?? This make zero sense. I thought we wanted a big guy 330+ to clog the middle, now we have 2 guys that are too small. I just don't get this theory!! Ira??"
Drew Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 3:00pm ET"D.Ware has played well but he is not a big-time RB. He dances way too much before hitting the hole.. that works playing against future Home Depot workers but not NFL players. Let's calm down about this guy... A Peterson will be hurt by midseason, he runs way too high.. Nice player though!!!"
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 4:29pm ET"Sorry Drew, Peterson is the real deal. Pouha lost weight so he could be quicker. I believe the Jets want their NT's to be active and not just take up space like a typical NT would in a 3-4. A few missed tackles here and there and you get what happened last night. They have 3 weeks to fix it."
Drew Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 6:11pm ET"I agree that Peterson is a beast but he runs really high!! He has to get his pads lower.. but he is a monster. I just do not get the quicker NT theory, everyone has screamed that D-Rob is not fit for our system and now Pouha is the same weight?I love the G Warren thought Ira...that's the guy we need"
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 6:13pm ET"Would love to see Banks get a shot with the 1st unit. I still think he runs better than Ware. Guess what they see in practice gave Ware his shot last night."
Ira Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 8:39pm ET"I am sure Crennel already gave Eric the book on Warren. I heard the Colts have interest in him since they released Corey Simon."
GIOVANNI Said:
Sun, August 19, 2007 - 6:10am ET"IAM GLAD IT WAS JUST A PRESESON GAME,BUT I ALSO LIKE THE WAY THE PLAYERS ARE NOT TAKING THIS LINEDOWN,IT SHOWS CARECTER,AND NEXT WEEK VS THE GIANTS THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHINK TO PROVE,LETS NOT FORGET WE DONT HAVE OUR #1RB,BYT I STILL BELIVE WE WILL WIN THE GAME.LETS GO JETS....."
Gregg from CA Said:
Sun, August 19, 2007 - 6:32pm ET"I think I'm about as sick of the "arm strength" comments as Chad is. I had to listen to Joe Buck yap about it all night. Every time there's a "touch" pass, it gets taken as a negative. Do you expect the coaches to show the whole play book? Pre-season is to improve the teams, not please the fans."
Archangel Said:
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 5:44pm ET"Truth is, the game was played against what looks like the second coming of The Purple People-Eaters. No matter how any of us cut it, THAT was one hellava defense. Edwards, Greenway, and Robison, (just to mention a few) were awesome. And A. Peterson is exactly what I thought he'd be. Gotta admire 'em"
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BobbyD Said:
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 12:52am ET"I'm glad they made mistakes and struggled. This will be a long season and if they are going to finish 11-5 they better get used to bouncing back. Love to see a 70-85 yrd Dearth bomb to a WR on a trick play."
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