Tough Way for T.J. to Celebrate Record Day
Published: Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:15pm ET
By Eric Allen
Allen is the senior managing editor of newyorkjets.com. He is in his ninth season with the Jets.
File Under: Thomas Jones, Buffalo Bills
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10/18 — Thomas Jones set a franchise record with 210 rushing yards and the Jets amassed 318 yards on the ground overall, but T.J. was downright somber this evening.
“We didn’t win the game,” he said after the Bills edged the Jets, 16-13, in overtime. “Regardless of any individual statistics or anything like that, it doesn’t matter. We lost the game.”
Jones, who entered Week 6 with 271 yards and a 3.7-yard rushing average, averaged 9.5 yards a carry against an active Buffalo front. He set a career long with a 64-yard rush early in the second quarter, which set up a Jay Feely field goal, and then he topped himself with a 71-yard scoring jaunt on the Green & White’s next possession.
“I don’t really care if I’m back on track. We lost the game. That’s why we play — to have success as a team,” he said. “I’ve always been a team player and that’s why I play as hard as I can — to help the team win. Me getting back on track has nothing to do with this game.”
After entering this contest with the NFL’s sixth-ranked rushing offense at 132 yards a game, the Jets will move up in rankings after an outstanding effort on the ground. The 318 yards and the 8.0-yard per-carry average were the second-best marks for a Jets team ever.
“We’ve been talking about getting our running game on track,” said Jets head coach Rex Ryan. “I think that’s the biggest positive that you can take out of this game. The fact that we were still in the game when you turn the ball over six times is also amazing.”
“We were in a groove,” added RT Damien Woody. “But I think up front and with our running backs, we’re capable of rushing for similar type games. I’m not saying we can run for 300 regularly, but this is who we are. We are a pound-it team. We are a power-running team.”
But rookie QB Mark Sanchez had a difficult time to say the least, throwing five picks, and the Jets were penalized 14 times. Those negative numbers countered the "ground & pound" attack.
“It’s stunning. It’s hard to piece together. Anytime you have a great day rushing — we ran for over 300 yards and usually if you rush for those many yards, you win,” T.J. said. “ But we had a lot of penalties and turnovers, plays that got called back. Just a lot of misfortunes.”
Leon Washington also pitched in with 99 rush yards, picking up a healthy 6.6 yards a carry. The offensive line was tremendous throughout, opening up gaping holes for the Jets’ talented duo to make hay. The Bills' undersized front played hard, but they were often pushed around and they missed DT Marcus Stroud at various points.
“It’s almost similar to last year. Around this time, that’s when the run game really started clicking,” Woody said. “I think the dam kind of broke loose this game and we had a big day rushing. We just have to continue to lean on it because it will help our quarterback out some and make us a better football team.”
The Jets are what their record says they are: a .500 team after six games. And despite a three-game slide, they’ll take a strong running game out to the West Coast next weekend.
“We have a lot of veterans on this team, we have a lot of guys who’ve won a lot of football games and have dealt with this situation in the past,” Jones said. "We have some great character, so we have to bounce back and get ready for next week against Oakland.”
There were no smiles from Jones as he left the podium. He deserved better.
Fans Respond
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Randy Lange Said:
"Dom, Rex Ryan said of Kris Jenkins' knee injury, "I think it's serious." But Ryan won't have the information on the severity of the injury until at least Monday."
jet80 Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:47pm ET"I didnt say "same old jets" last week but Im saying it now. Awful game for the whole team.Sanchez just might not be ready for the NFL like everyone thought. The D seems to be getting worse.Thought Mangini was coaching this team today.Rex needs take the team back to tackling school like Mangini did.bench Leonhard for poor play,at least Smith doesnt get ran over every play & can tackle."
Randy Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:51pm ET"Heh I guess you get what you deserve,Clemens has never looked this bad and you all wanted MS. Welll who ya gonna blame this one on.Sanchise HA HA.Think about it the only reason MS has won anything is when the rest of the team has done more than their share.Im just about sick put the blame where it goes this time.SAY IT Clemens we need you. HEH"
jet80 Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:53pm ET"With all that talent back there and you cant even get a decent pass rush? Guess the whole trying to buy our way into a championship thing isnt go to work. Thomas Jones should pass on the new contract and ask for a trade if this is what the jets are goin to give us every sunday"
Anthony Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:59pm ET"T. Jones played great today but how are youy going to go lose to the Bills, I thought Monday was a let down today was a total let down. I know the Jets are better then the way they played and Yea Sanchez is a rookie. Next week is a make or break week now we are now in 2nd place behind a Patriots team that is gaining momentum. I think Rex needs to rethink about always blitzing..."
Jetsman Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:00pm ET"Thomas did deserve better. All you critics of Thomas, all you dumb idiots who constantly say "Trade Jones! He's slowing down the running game! He's bad!" Where are you all now? Do you STILL want to trade him? Thomas deserved both a win and better treatment from some of these fans here."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:01pm ET"Also a tough way to celebrate Fan Appreciation Day. The fans deserve better. Just warming up from a cold and depressed day at the stadium after a 3 hr ride home. Really have to wonder if it's worth the effort. Same sentiments are being felt at the tailgate parties."
Anonymous Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:08pm ET"At least we know what Jenkins means to this team. Shotty should be ashamed. If the kid is not on, then you use Clemens. 3 picks weren't enough to make the switch? Rex, do what you got to do. "
jetgirl Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:11pm ET"I think Clemens should of got a chance, after 4 picks !"
matt Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:16pm ET"if jenkins is okay, give mark sanchez the clipboard and say see you next year. Jenkins is a beast and makes the defense solid, meaning they can make a run this year at the playoffs.. Sanchez is going to blow at least 2 more games this year.... he has to sit if you are going to make a run....."
frbraymond Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:19pm ET"Bad, bad coaching by Ryan again, his team came out very flat, still licking their wounds from the Miami defeat. Sanchez whom is our future should have been pulled in favor of Clemens, he was almost crying and his body language was pathetic. He better learn how to man up, this is NYC."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:26pm ET"Awesome to see TJ have a day like that, he kept us in the game! He still doesn't look quite as fast or strong as last year but if he plays more like that and less like 11 for 15, he'll be worth a one or two-year contract next year, if not for as much $ as he got the first time. It would be great to have him around as a vet to school the up-and-coming RBs if he's still got this much game left. "
AOKP Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:31pm ET"the jets sure know how to get your hopes up, 3-0, now 3-3, losing to the dolphins, and the bills??? wow....and they wanna talk superbowl this year? u have to have heart and pride to win superbowls...i dont see it, this was suppose to be a sure win today...and edwards gets hurt? how easy does it have to be? come on....once again my faith is gone, lets see how they lose to the raiders next week."
Frank Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:32pm ET"Sanchez is killing this team. Other than a few good passes last week he has not played well the last 4 weeks. It really is a shame this could have been a special season with the right QB. He must be on some sort of pace for a record amount of turnovers in a season. To make matters worse he showed today he cannot play in the cold weather. His demeanor on the field and on the sideline is awful."
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:41pm ET"Its not whether or not you get knocked down. The question is do I get back up and keep fighting? "
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:46pm ET"Big Jenk is going to be fine. I saw him walk off without help."
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:49pm ET"We have just lost to two of the Crappiest teams in the NFL . Now we go out to face Oakland. Someones going to have to step up. Big time."
scjoe Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:50pm ET"Sure, you can blame the play calling, you can blame Sanchez, both of those contributed to this nightmare, but the glaring problem that I see with this team is the lack of discipline, NINETY SIX yards in penalties, most,at the worse possible time (Hartwicks hold in OT was especially costly) Maybe those laps in practice last year were not a bad idea after all."
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:52pm ET"There is no celebration. The franchise record set today; is misery. "
36 year fan Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:56pm ET"We should go back to fundamentals. blocking , tackling , your basic A,B,C,s. "
scjoe Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 11:58pm ET"Where was Clowney (no throws at all) where was Woodhead (never on the field although he was active) Why not take advantage of the speed of both those guys? But in the end, this game still could have been won despite the play calling AND the INTs. My biggest fear now, is losing Jenkins with two pretty good run teams coming up the next two weeks. But there is still time, let's get it together Rex."
john ruiz Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:10am ET"Seems to me that the play selection needs new direction. With the talent that we have now and the play selection being the same as last year we need a fresh start with a new or different offensive coordinator. "
Tom Liotta Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:17am ET"With a 13-3 lead, and the running game working incredibly well for the Jets, why would Shotty allow Sanchez to continue throwing the ball when he was clearly struggling? Pound the ball, chew the clock, allow your defense to rest....MANAGE THE GAME! That is all Sanchez needed to do. Same issue with the Saints game. Why is this not discussed in the press conferences....someone please raise this issu"
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:18am ET"I've seen a couple reports now that says Jenkins is done for the year. Think we'll be able to get Howard Green back before someone else grabs him? I have said it before and I'll say it again. Schottenheimer is incapable of running a smashmouth offense. No matter how well we are running the ball he can't resist calling ridiculous pass plays."
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:28am ET"Can someone tell me what our offensive identity is? I know what our defensive identity is, we are an aggressive attacking defense. I don't know what our offense is. Are we a running team? A passing team? A west coast offense? A smash mouth offense? I don't really care which one it is, but could someone tell schotty to PICK ONE AND GO WITH IT!!!"
supercooljetfan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:46am ET"sanchez played bad today but for everyone who is now saying we should or should been starting clemens just remember what he did in preaseason he was horrible and gave sanchez the starting job with is horrible play he might of completed one pass all of preseason"
Row Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:16am ET"I have never criticized TJ and have always week after week told you he's awesome and the best back on this team. Someone needs to add logic to this game. We are supposed to win games, not sell tickets. How many tickets can you sell when Sanchize throws 5 picks a game to one of the worst teams in football? "You play to win the damn game", it's time we started. Coach, I want answers!!! Go Jets"
TMac Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:50am ET"Hype puts fans in the seats and sells jerseys, but it don't complete passes and lead men. Word is Ainge is "The Man" in the locker room...how come he ain't on the field?"
g-baby/jet-baby Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:15am ET"you know what guys? im sick and tired of reading the post from a lot of so called "true jet fans", every single one of you is quick to say "wooo we won" when it favors you, but in hard times/a loss... you're quick to say "they"... understood that these past losses were favorable matchups... but thats where it ends... favorable... these are pro teams and they do their part to pull out a win as well"
g-baby/jet-baby Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:21am ET"you know what guys? im sick and tired of reading the post from a lot of so called "true jet fans", every single one of you is quick to say "wooo we won" when it favors you, but in hard times/a loss... you're quick to say "they"..understood that these past losses were favorable matchups... but thats where it ends... favorable... these are pro teams and they do their part to pull out a win as well"
36 year fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:22am ET"When the going gets tough , the tough get going. Put Clemens in? Are you kidding me? I'd rather let Jay Feeley Start chucking It. No offense to Jay. Sanchez is not the only reason the Jets are coming unglued. How many stupid penalties can we collect in one game? Shotty should go back to basics. We'll get through this . "
36 year fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:34am ET"Only if you've been in the deepest valley, can you ever know how magnificent it is to be on the highest mountain. - Nixon."
36 year fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:47am ET"These wounds we suffer together, will serve to build us stronger."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:49am ET"supercooljetfan is well named. No team can ever have a franchise QB, much less anyone else worth playing, without the brains, guts, and maturity to assess players over time. What's with the illusion that MS can be judged after 6 games, that KC or anyone else can just step in and work miracles? I hear endless whining about no SB but not the patience Giant fans had to watch Eli get there -- and win!"
king Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 4:13am ET"edwards,mangini,ryan it doesn't matter.just when you think where over the hump.the bottom falls out.40yrs. of this crap.i should have my head examined...totally disgusted!"
jak_jet fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 5:25am ET" tough to lose these close games...very tough.. rex will set things right..it just takes time.....as much as i would like to see ainge get a shot... sanchez is the qb..he is a rookie and he will learn....."
tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:13am ET"sanchez is a rookie. making rookie mistakes. everybody loved when we drafted him. ny is not the easiest place to play but we need to see progress from week to week. he is not looking comfortable back there and making some bad decisions. if he is going to be the future qb then we have to let him play and deal with the team going up and down all year. but he must make better choices on his passes. "
Mikey Ram Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:53am ET"Same Old Jets, giving away games to teams that we should be beating bad. Ridiculous hearing that Sanchez is not use to playing in bad weather. He was lobbing passes through the wind with nothing on them. Where are the sacks and defensive pressure from the D-line and LB's? All the bragadoo from Rex is coming back to bite him in the rear. "
hammer Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:57am ET"New QB. New Coach.New D players. SAME OLD JETS!! This is obviously a franchise that will never rise above mediocrity. Year after year ,same story...middle of the road team with flashes of greatness and nothing to ever show for it. For all his loud talk, and "defensive genius" tag, Ryan is another in a long line of coaches who cant prepare a team for game day.Thank God its hockey season! GO RANGERS"
Ira Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 7:28am ET"I have brain lock just can't believe what i watched. 1972 team rushes for 333 yds @NE wins 41-13. 1998 team rushes for 302 yds @home Colts team wins 41-13. Yesterday the 2nd most rushing yds in team history and they lose? I just don't know what to say. Clowney was wide open in the middle of the field on Sanchez's last INT. He never read the field all day."
P. Bear Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 7:59am ET"TJ did his part!!!! WHY were we letting the rookie QB throw the ball, into the wet blowing wind that every WINNING Giant QB has had problems with for that last 2 decades? You knew he never played in below 50 degree temps,you drafted him + 50 mil. BUT the Bill's Harvard guy played four seasons in bad NE weather and he won. SOJ"
Ira Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:04am ET"Leon was even more open in OT that would've given the Jets a first down and probably a big gain after Lowery's INT. "
Jeremy Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:22am ET"What do you know-a pretty boy from SoCal can't play in the cold--shocker! Shotty & Sanchez are killing this team! Someone explain to me why the JETS didn't just run the ball after his 2,3, or 4 pick?? I hate to say it but the JETS are continuing to get outcoached! Congrats to TJ & Leon for great games-sorry it had to be in a lost to the Bills--so sad. 1 sack for the D--seriously, just 1--pathetic!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:28am ET"The lowest blow is this bull about MS's manner after the game and "body language" during it. He takes all responsibility, makes no excuses of any kind, and nobody cares what a better attitude this is than, say, TJ and Rhodes publicly getting on Favre's case last year. No wonder so many guys won't play in NY for any amount of $! Frank, "special seasons" and "right QBs" don't come for Xmas, grow up!"
joe b Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:06am ET"Sanchez is 36/80 for 429 yrd with ratings of 27, 87.5&8.3 in the last 3. He is going home next week and will probably get the start. If he falls flat on his face next week, it's time for a change. He's a rookie and too much pressure is being placed on him. In his defense he hasn't had his top two WRs on the field together and is just getting accustomed to BE. Now if Jenks is out were doome."
Littleleon Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:41am ET"What did you guys expect, no wonder we never had a QB after Namath, Sanchez is a rookie and it takes more than 6 games to become a good QB in this league. If anything at all the play calling is what should be blamed, along with a couple of costly penalties, I would have cut Hartsock right after the game!!!! J-Co and B.Smith not suiting up hurt us, Clowney, Wright, come on man!"
JR Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:45am ET"ARE YOU SERIOUS? WHAT WAS THAT MESS?We get off to a 3-0 start and now 3-3? The loss to Miami last week was bad enough...but lose to the Bills...lol What a shame. Sanchise just got thre reality of Pro Football...and Keller...could he have done any worse at all? Revis pass interference on back to back plays. Feely misses a chip shot too win...you have got to be kiddin' me already!! FORGET ABOUT IT!"
Kaya Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:49am ET"I am not going to say go Jets this week. That was a total embaressment against the Bills!! Of all team and at home? Your running game finally breaks open and you choice to continue letting Sanchize throw the ball? I mean come on!! How many more years should we suffer? Why not let TJ run for 400 yards!!!"
AZ Jet Fan Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 9:58am ET"As I watched the game yesterday, I couldn't help to think about some of the fans on this site that were talking 7-1, just before the Monday night game. My question to them then and now is, just how long have you idiots been Jets fans? You ought to know better then that."
Gary C Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:08am ET"just some thoughts. Keller played as if he was still celebrating Purdue's win over Ohio State. not having Brad Smith and Trusnik, jets specials aren't so special and Redskins have proven you cannot keep bringing in high priced talent to win. "
Gary C Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:20am ET"If this season goes down the tubes,the jets will need to look to get draft picks because this is a strong season for draft.Schottenheimer has had success with veteran qbs such as Pennington and Farve but hasn't developed Clemens and Sanchez remains to be seen.maybe developing young quarterbacks might not be his thing."
irish jet Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:22am ET"i am once again guilty of believing in this team,and the same old jets showed up again. we will never win a championship,and our best guy on defense is probably lost for the year. ladies and gentlemen,we are now playing for a good pick in the 2010 draft. what a waste of talent."
Edward Wittenberg Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:28am ET"Season ticket holder 28 years SAME OLD JETS"
Mind Boggled Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:38am ET"First off Get game TJ I have always been a fan and you just keep proving to my why I am. Great Game Second I really am Mind Boggled. What kind of offensive coordinator do we have. Scottenheimer What are you thinking or are you? May be you just throw a few play in a hat and pick one out. I just don't see your reasoning behind your calling. After Sanchez 4th pick and the great run game TJ was have"
Don M Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:39am ET"I don't know where to begin. I hope Scott, Rhodes and the rest of these guys are done shooting their mouths off. Ihedigbo - he should be benched next Sunday for such a stupid penalty. I said before yesterday's game they should be 7-2 going into NE. And if Jenkins is done now I think they will be lucky to be 4-5. Horrible effort all the way around. Was it Fan Appreciation or Buffalo Appreciation?"
nill Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:48am ET"the jets are fine. Sanchez never played in a game so cold, or windy he will be fine he just has to get used to it and remember he is just a rookie!!!!!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 10:58am ET"Hey irish jet, you might need a change of scenery. Over here we don't stop fighting till the end and we take the last man with us, so don't waste time on predictions, weird takes on Jets personnel, or the draft when it's only October. I watched the five years till we won that championship and they weren't always pretty. Blowing off steam is one thing, quitting as soon as it gets tough is another."
jackce Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:05am ET"Rex Ryan should have realized that regardless of what the talent looked like, this was the New York Jets, and that means that at some point they will start to screw up. It figures that the Raiders appear to be improving, by beating Philly. At this point I wouldn't dare try to guess which JETs team shows up next week."
Jets Fan in Ohio Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:13am ET"Pathetic game. How do we get 1 sack against a O-Line with 4 first year players and a back-up QB? How do we commit 14 total penalties with 5 during OT? And I got so sick of hearing how MS has never played in the cold weather. Are you kidding me? Somehow that excuses 5 INT's? What's his excuse for taking that sack for a 20-yard loss in the 4th when he could easily have thrown it away?"
jeff Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:13am ET"Why when you can run the ball with so much success do you not continue to do so??? Brain Schottenhiemer need to be fired, it was pretty clear Sanchez was struggling. So why not just keep running the ball they couldnt be stopped.. We played horrible the coaching was just as bad if not worse. first 3 games of the season if sanchez struggled we came back the next series and ran 3 times SOJ "
Jeremy Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:16am ET"1 sack in 3 games. Where is the pass rush? We desperately need a legit DE pass rusher. Greg Hardy or Corey Wootton in next years draft would be sweet! "
Frank Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:22am ET"Jets Fan 64 if you knew anything about the game and better yet the way this team has been built by Tanwoody with a lot of old high priced players its a win now team. If we actually had a QB that could play like a Favre or a Cutler we would be no less than 5-1 and making noise. Instead the coaching staff and owner are delusional thinking this kid will win for them in fact he is costing them games."
Schuyler Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:23am ET"Yesterday was bad...but at least we are still 3-3 we need to support MS, because he's the face of this franchise. He'll get there, it just takes time. Yesterday was his first day playing in the wind in the Meadowlands, not an easy thing to do. This week we get the Raiders and we can get back some of our swagger. Just have to let this loss go. Go Jets!"
Gary C Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:24am ET"had this thought for awhile, maybe jets need to install the moving pocket as the chiefs did in the 60's and 70's.their offensive line is more athletic than power.Sanchez will use his athletic ability more and can see down the field more."
Nino Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:27am ET"We welcome back the "typical" Jets performance. I'm a Jets fan and I hate to say that a 3-0 start wasn't enough to hype me up. This is all too familiar with plenty of football left, old habits reappear, year after year. It was an embarrassing game... maybe they should have sat Sanchez out in the 3rd quarter and played Clemens and brought him back in the 4th, but maybe's are the same as excuses."
Adam Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:27am ET"For all of you saying bench Sanchise, your crazy. He is not going to get better by being on the bench and we will not know anything more about him. Sitting rookie quarterbacks "to learn" is an unverifiable theory. You can't prove that the accomplished quaterbacks that sat and learned for a year would not have played well had they started from the beginning and vice versa. "
Christopher Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:40am ET"Same Old Jets...unreal, but true. I just hope Rex doesn't fall into the same trap that gets most coaches fired, it is clearly time for a change at QB."
JOHNNYJET Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:43am ET"WE ARE NOT GOING TO WIN ANOTHER GAME THE WAY WE ARE PLAYING!!! WHO SHOULD WE PICK IN THE APRIL DRAFT? THIS SEASON IS OVER!!!"
SkipperHeck Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:43am ET"Remember how hard and unfair most of you were to Brett Favre towards the end of the last season, and wanted him out? And then branded Sanchez as a 'savior'. I'm not trying to gloat here, I'm just trying to tell that you should be patient with Sanchez. And Rex will certainly find the way improve the defense, so I expect the Jets will have a winning season, maybe even a playoff berth."
JETS G42 Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:57am ET" YO get over its too cold for Sanchez lol that's absurd. you guys are fickle fans, a few bumby starts and your all jumping out window's please get off the bus .go cheer the giants. but if you stay on board be supportive did you think we were going to win the SB because of sanchez COMON MAN lol the kid has to learn the game, blame the coaches play callng TJ is a beast we should have ran the ball."
scjoe Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:04pm ET"Randy, can you did deep in to your stats and tell me when was the last time a team rushed for over 300 yards AND LOST? To bad they don't keep stats on who leads the league in losing to teams that they are "supposed to beat" year after year. If they did, I bet I know who would hold that dubious record."
Randy Lange Said:
"scjoe, I don't have the last time it happened but in the game story notes I mentioned that the Jets' 318 rushing yards on Sunday were the second-most by a losing team in NFL history, trailing only the 320 of the Cleveland Rams in a 14-10 loss to the Washington Redskins in 1944."
Vincent Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:05pm ET"I'm sick of seeing this. It feels like after losing to NewOrl we lost belief in our ability. I can't believe the team was thin on character that they have let 1 or 2 losses destroy their mindset to this extent. Our greatest prob in the past has been no self-belief & I thought RR had changed that permanently when he arrived , not just for 3 weeks. This prob is not about skill, but mindset. So sad."
harry-o Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:10pm ET"sanchez will be a very very good NFL QB not this year and maybe not next year but he will become one. he shows good chemistry w/ the team and thats good for high fives and head butts. Sanchez must now gel with his go to "guyz", this takes time perhaps seasons. Sanchez plays like a rookie ... oh wait ... he is one. that's the reality."
scjoe Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:19pm ET"Some of you out there strongly disagree with sitting Sanchez. Who knows for sure if that is the way to go, but the stats do not lie, he has regressed in each game so far, how much longer do you go before you give up the season? I was under the impression that the Jets were in a win now mode, with the trades and giving up all those draft choices, don't that contradict what really is going on?"
Joe Willie Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:29pm ET"Mark Sanchez is right about one thing: It's his fault that the Jets lost to N.O. & Buffalo. He is not seeing the field, his receivers or anything once the ball is snapped. He panics and back-steps and tries to force the ball. When is the last time we saw him drop back and throw a timing pass. He holds the ball way too long and allows the defense to get on him. Deer in the headlights look. "
motomike Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:37pm ET"The only thing that is the same is the fans. Once things get tough I hear the same stuff. The only thing the Jets needs is new fans. Sanchez is a kid who will get better. He has a solid package, and must learn. Anyone who thought he was going to be perfect never played football and a high level. Rex Ryan also needs to learn alot and will! This is a work in progress."
gmans30 Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:48pm ET"I think a lot of people need to stop bashing the Jets and stand by YOUR TEAM. Everything will work itself out in the end"
irish jet Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:58pm ET"hey jets fan 64 i live in a world that is reality,not actuality. what i saw,and everyone else saw is a team that is not ready to take the next step,period. who is gonna replace jenkins? no one. we have a rookie q.b. who will be great one day,but not this year. i am not jumping ship as you like to say. i have been on this sinking ship since i was in grade school pal,i'm soaking wet,tired of losing."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:11pm ET"Who's delusional, Frank? You want Favre back? D'you say that in January, when he wouldn't have the surgery the Jets asked him to? Guess you didn't get the memo that by moving up to pick MS, Rex said he wants a few years to build. He grabbed some Ravens 'cause we had so many holes on D, but Scott and Leonhard are pretty young. "This kid" needs a couple years like all QBs do, I say give it to him."
Jesse Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:13pm ET"This team needs to get those loses out of their heads and get back to playing fun lights out football. Sanchez has the potential, but he needs to make some better reads! I think we can bounce back, but we need to play lights out!!!"
sam Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:15pm ET"Shottenhimer should have been benched with his play calls on offense. Even the crowd let him know with all the boos."
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:21pm ET"Jenkins is gone for the season. That is a big problem. I still have faith but who is gonna fill that monsters shoes . I hope Rex has a plan to overcome this road block because if we don't win next week that could be the season. I hope not but now its gut wrench time. Jets give Oakland everything leave it all out there..."
smc Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:25pm ET"Offense play caller should have been benched last game. The boos from the crowd only underscored his poor selection considering the conditions on the field and the success we had at running the ball. "
Harv Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:27pm ET"Hope jenks is gonna be ok. Great job by jones. Trading for edwards was a big mistake. they were not making the superbowl this year and we traded away draft picks. It seems this teamwants the big names more than to win. Also,sit leonard start smith."
ABLITY Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:00pm ET"how do someone not get bench after like 3 bad picks, Shottenhimer when we run the ball of power formation(2 tightends) 0r one tightend and one full back, that when we do the best. or in the shotgun with one tight end. how do you throw 5 picks, thats unheard of. people keep saying that our defense is playing bad. we hd 6 turnover, which means the defense is on 6 more possesion den they should be!!!"
steven Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:03pm ET"Bull: Helped quarterback enough in rushing and still 5 picks. Something is wrong with the quarterback. He looks like a kid among men out there. He pouts like a kid. The receivers drop the ball. If you get 300 yards and throw 5 picks, the quarterback doesn't belong on the field. You lose to the Bills? Better off blitzing every play for chaos . At least defense would be fun to watch. Same old Jets"
ABLITY Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:07pm ET"i good defense only can allow like 10-15 points a game, this is the NFL, you are not going to stop a team from scoring every game. a good offense should score atleast 3 times a game. the defense is okey. some people hit soft but the defense get off the field sometimes. i the offense get the ball up 13-3, you need to put that game away."
ABLITY Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:08pm ET"think about it, Shottenhimer offense made, chad pennington look bad, kellen clemons look bad and now mark look bad, there maybe some wrong with this guy and not the QB. KEEP IT SIMPY MAN"
ABLITY Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:13pm ET"THE THING THAT GET ME THE MOST Is people saying that its okey or we jumping off the bangwagging. Look this team has the talent to go deep into the playoffs, and we could had blow the bill out last night, 13-3, and you dont score any points. a defense cannot play a game where they have to be on out there all game. if we lose next week this season maybe over"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:18pm ET"So what's your point, irish? MS will be great but you can't wait around? It all has to happen in '09? In your world of actuality, how many QBs did it that fast? How many didn't but still turned out great? And much as we need Jenkins, him and a lot of the older guys ain't gonna be here when this team's SB-ready. I've been on the ship since grade school, too, but you stick with it if you're a fan."
Ira Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:22pm ET"Jesse, Thats right they just need to win a game and get this bad taste out of their mouths. Hope it starts with the Raiders. Very,very sorry to see reports on NFL.Com that KJ is out for the year. That is a very big loss."
HOWARD Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:30pm ET"after sleeping on this for a night it was still simply pitiful,we save the dolphins season save jourons job and next we'll save the raider franchise,learn to tackle on d and as for the o well next yr i guess"
drew Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:31pm ET"I was dissapointed in that Sanchez didn't even seem to look anywhere on the field except for his first option he had tunnel vision seemed liek he only wanted to throw to keller or edwards I saw clowney open a couple of times and on the last drive I saw keller out about 5 yards no one around and 2 guys on edwards and clowney sitting in the middle of the zone wide open. "
Ira Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:42pm ET"Randy, The Jets and Bills combined for 3 INT's in the overtime has that ever happened in an NFL game before?"
Randy Lange Said:
"Ira, I don't know the answer to three INTs in one overtime. I do know that in the "Monday Night Miracle," there were three turnovers in that OT -- two INTs by Marcus Coleman and one lost FUM by Coleman."
TMac Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:48pm ET"Remember: It's all about MARKeting. They don't give a crap about winning, just ticket sales and merchandise! We're the fools for caring."
AC Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:51pm ET" Clowney, who played little the first four games, said, "It's a true blessing to be in this position right now" too bad Sanchez never looked his way "
Ray Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:02pm ET"Really '64 Tom, what were you thinking? Don't you know Frances is never wrong? Now that you disputed him, he'll let you know your clueless too!! Frances' facts (opinions) are based on vast knowledge (opinions) cultivated from years of experience (2nd team all star, some old fat guys league, three consecutive years). Lets see you top that!!"
Frank Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:35pm ET"Joe Willie I will take it a step further he lost the Saints and Buffalo special teams saved him against the Titans, he didn't do enough against the Dolphins. Being severly outplayed by Henne and then Fitzpatrick is disgraceful. The kid is no Matt Ryan or Flacco not even close I said it since preseason he has no pocket presence and his mechanics are awful and a weak arm all on display this weekend"
Vincent Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:59pm ET"To all the heroes that think many of us are bashing our own team - I know I am not. I just want them to win because I'm going to stick with this team no matter how good/bad the record. But someone must be able to explain 3-0 to 3-3 against mediocre teams..."
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 4:10pm ET"Im sorry, but Mark Sanchez is a good qb he had a couple of bad games but thats wat happens wen ur a rookies. im disappointed in the coaching staff it was overtime n ur running backs wer doin great why not stay with the run. "
Luis from Olathe KS Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 4:33pm ET"Why Rex allow to leave poor performance player in the game. It is simple player make mistakes or cannot perform, bench the player and let the subtitute handle the game, I rather lost trying than look like a chipmonk. And if the offensive coordinator is not perfoming get another offensice coordinator. Great job Jones!!! If Jones cannot perform in next game bench him. We could be 5-1, not 3-3."
Anonymous Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 5:38pm ET"Please, on offense learn how to execute a good screen. High School teams do a better job. "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 5:56pm ET"Got any tips on the stock market, Ray? Frank's latest post says MS has no pocket presence, awful mechanics, and a weak arm, which is kind of a Triple Crown of stupidity and proves your point about Frank instantly. What can I say, I also had problems with folks shortly after 9/11 (thankfully, not TOO many) who said we should just ask the terrorists what they want and give it to them -- losers!"
irish jet Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:52pm ET"jet's fan since 64',FROM YOUR OLD AGE YOU MUST BE DILLUSIONAL,I AM NOT A FAIR WEATHER FAN, I FOLLOW THE TEAM,AND IN FACT I WAS AT THE MIAMI GAME LAST WEEK. ALL OF YOUR POINTS MAKE NO SENSE. YOU ARE ATTACKING FANS FOR THERE OPINION BECAUSE IT DIFFERS FROM YOURS. YOU HAVE SEEN THE HISTORY OF THIS TEAM,WE LOSE WHEN WE SHOULD WIN,AND WIN WHEN WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO(SOMETIMES)........."
irish jet Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 6:54pm ET"...WE AS FANS HAVE A RIGHT TO BE SKEPTICAL,SORRY MOST OF US WERE NOT AROUND WHEN NAMATH WON A SUPER BOWL. I ALWAYS STICK WITH MY TEAM NO MATTER WHAT,YOU SHOULD STOP CRYING,AND DO THE SAME"
Brian D. Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:45pm ET"Relax Jets Nation. The season is long from over and we are still in second place in the AFC. Does anybody care to remember Joe Flacco's first 6 games? 2TD's 7 INTs and sacked 12 times. Does anybody know who has the rookie record for most interceptions? That illustrious title belongs to Peyton Manning with 28 INTS. Jets Nation needs to relax. We have the players but we aren't executing."
Howie D Said:
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:22pm ET"We've always had talented players, but bad coaching continue to betray us. Our offense is a liability, and Shotty's responsible - poor calls, struggles to win winnable games, don't know when to sub. 3 INTs is enough for a rookie. Sanchez is good, and will learn from the bench when he's having a bad game. Shotty's not ready for prime time. JETS IS A PLAY-OFF TEAM BADLY IN NEED PLAY-OFF COACHING!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 6:33am ET"irish jet, I'm 54, lift 3X p/wk, still play football, too. Be as skeptical as you want, the players will do the same and go to teams whose fans don't behave like ADHD-ridden brats. And read Brian D.'s post here, which is the work of an adult with a brain, historical perspective on both football and the Jets, and the ability to stay cool under pressure. Unlike folks who print everything in CAPS."
IRISH JET Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 10:22am ET"JETS FAN SINCE 64 IS THE GUY THAT EVERYONE HATES AT A TAIL GATE PARTY. CAPS OR NOT,YOUR OPINION IS GARBAGE"
OriginalJetFan Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 3:22pm ET"The sad thing here is that the root cause of the problems rests with the Coaching staff. 1st for not just running and dinking and dunking once Sanchez was 3-9 with 28 yds at one point in the 1st half. The bigger problem is that despite Sanchezs performance it was penalties that ultimately cost the game, 14 penalties is a sign of lack of discipline and poor coaching, not aggressive play."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 5:28pm ET"Even more hooked on those CAPS, IRISH JET? Funny, 'cause the guy that most people usually stop listening to is the guy who says "Your opinion is garbage" but gives no arguments for his own opinion. That kind of thing removes you from any serious discussion of the Jets, football, or anything else, but I guess you've found that out already. Otherwise why all the CAPS? Go Jets! And go away, losers!"
Brian Said:
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 12:24pm ET"I agree with OriginalJetFan. I think after Sanchez lost a little confidence, the game plan should have been been some slants and wide receiver screens to the outside. It was the same concept the Dolphins used against us most of the night last Monday. Give him the high percentage completions to boost his confidence and ride the run game. "
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Dom Said:
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:25pm ET"Whats going on with Kris Jenkins... Is he done for the year "
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