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10/04 — The Saints scored 24 points Sunday to knock the Jets from the ranks of the unbeaten, but their prolific offense accounted for 10. That was a touchdown too many for Jets head coach Rex Ryan.
“We should have held them to three points,” he said after watching his team drop to 3-1.
If you were told before this contest that the Jets would limit Drew Brees to just 10 points, you’d sign up for it and get the victory cigar ready. And yet despite holding the Saints to just a point a possession (10 points, 10 drives), the Jets had nothing to show for their valiant effort against a team that was averaging 40 points per contest.
The Saints got a John Carney 34-yard field goal on their first drive and then nothing from their offense on the scoreboard until the fourth quarter. Drew Brees, who completed 20 of 32 passes for 190 yards, was touchdown- and error-free. And that was the difference in a game in which the Jets' rookie quarterback accounted for four turnovers.
The Saints looked poised to make it a runaway and take a 17-0 advantage midway through the second. Brees completed a sceen pass to Pierre Thomas and some sloppy tackling resulted in a 36-yard gain and a first-and-goal at the Jets 1. But Thomas lost a yard on first down, FB Heath Thomas was held to a yard on second down, and Brees threw consecutive incompletions on third and fourth downs.
“We have the philosophy that they’re not in until they’re in,” said ILB Bart Scott. “They did a great job getting down there, but we believe that we play every play like it’s our last. All you have to do is win that particular down and then when that down’s over, you win the next down. So we were able to get the stop.”
But the “D” didn’t have good fortune on its side. Two plays after the goal line stand, Will Smith stripped Sanchez of the ball in the end zone and Remi Ayodele recovered for a score. The Jets went down 17 as both of Sanchez’s first-half turnovers — the other was a Darren Sharper 99-yard interception return — directly resulted in 14 points.
“I thought we had a nice goal-line stand on them,” Ryan said. “Our guys never quit. They earned what they got.”
Playing behind all day, the Jets didn’t get to blitz as much as they would have liked. Brees was hurried on occasion but never sacked and remained cool in the pocket.
“They were in control of the game more than we were in control of it,” Ryan said. “That will sometimes take away from it. You have to defend against the run a little bit more than you really wanted to.”
“The blitz, he was beating it,” added DE Shaun Ellis of Brees. “We weren’t getting many hits on him and they ran the ball on pass situations. They kept us off balance.”
The Jets never went away, though, as both ILB David Harris (12 tackles, including 10 solo stops, and one forced fumble) and CB Darrelle Revis (three tackles, two passes defended) delivered outstanding individual efforts again. Bryan Thomas’ strip of Reggie Bush resulted in a Dwight Lowery recovery, which would set up the Jets' only touchdown, a 15-yard Thomas Jones run in the third that cut the gap to just 17-10.
And the score remained that way until Pierre Thomas salted the game away in the fourth quarter with a 1-yard run. It was only the third touchdown the Jets allowed on 46 offensive possessions in the season’s first quarter and it was an uncharacteristic 11 plays allowed by the Green & White.
On third-and-6 from the Saints' 30, Brees found a wide-open David Thomas for a critical 18-yard gain.
“I got a little too aggressive and lost my footing and gave up a big play,” Scott said. “I’ll be better next time and I’ll learn from this experience, and I’ll make that play.”
Four plays later, NT Kris Jenkins jumped offside on fourth-and-1 from the Jets 43.
"I made a mistake. My intentions were good,” Big Jenks said. “I was trying to knock the center back and they caught me offsides. It hurts to have to talk about it. You never want to feel that something you did contributed to your team losing. But I have to be a man and accept the reality of the situation.”
Then on a critical third-and-4, Brees went to Robert Meachem on a slant for 19 yards. Thomas, who rushed for 86 yards, finished it.
“We did our part to not win the game as well,” said S Kerry Rhodes, credited with eight stops. “We did not stop the run down the stretch and we couldn’t get the ball back at the end. It was a complete loss.”
The Jets won’t be happy about giving up 153 yards on the ground as the Saints exploited them at times with cutbacks. But for a team missing three starters (Calvin Pace will return from suspension next week and No. 2 corner Lito Sheppard and nickel corner Donald Strickland were both down with injuries), this Jets defense turned in a quality effort vs. the NFL’s best offense.
“This team is not going to get off course. Period,” Scott said. “You’re not going to see this team get off the bandwagon. We believe in the man leading us, we believe in the system, we believe in the scheme and we believe in each other. Honestly, we thought we were going to go undefeated. That’s not the case, but the next thing you do is you try and go 15-1.”
Fans Respond
Here's your chance to tell Randy what you think! Add a Comment | Hide All Show All (72)Riccardo Rosselli Said:
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:53pm ET" Sanchez ,He is learning the hard way, but he is good. If it wasn't for the 3 take aways.The game was in the Jets favor. Really think about it . A field goal and one touch down, the best any team held the Saints. Defense play real great to much time on the field.Offense Man UP,open the gaps . With Pace and hopefully the safeties coming back ,Teams Beware. I Still Believe , LET'S GO JETS. Rick"
Luis from Olathe KS Said:
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 11:02pm ET"Always remember the TITANS, they are 0-4, and we are 3-1, means we are doing great!!! Is ok Sanchez making rookie mistakes, but cannot said the same about some odd play calls, and Jones is very slow from the back, we need the rookie rb to take more snaps, and Washington too. KUDOS TO DEFENSE!!!!!!!"
Frank Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:01am ET""Sanchize" not has been regressing badly the last few weeks the team has won inspite of him. Worst yet was watching him and his body language on the sidelines he has that "deer" in the headlights look. I didn't see any chart studying or conferences with the coaching staff it was bizarre. This is going to get alot worse if Schotty and the coaching staff don't wake up and Sanchize stop the turnovers"
Jets fan since 67 Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:31am ET"Well that game was a wash. MS gave up so many poiints yeah he is a rookie but an 88 million dollar rookie that cost us a huge game by mental misfortunes. Put KC in there and let a vet show the rookie how to work under pressure. We SHOULD HAVE WON TODAY not get our butts handed to us by stupid Sanchize mistakes."
chrisfaceoff Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:46am ET"Even mark struggled, there are good things to take away from his struggles: 1) It was bound to happen as big of fan I am we weren't going to be undefeated 2) Let them happen, he's a smart guy..he will correct it 3) As was said we held our own defensively on the leagues best offense...this will go a HUGE way. A loss is a loss, we'll undoubtedly bounce back, and that will only make us more of a threat"
zachezman Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:38am ET"hey u cant win em all guys...we have some good years ahead of us...look forward to that and monday night vs the DOLLphins...lets move forward with a win..thats a big issue..we need to win this monday ps--why is it that the PATS are like a fly that never goes away"
MrFootball1 Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 2:47am ET"The Saints are a very powerful team representing the NFC. When they meet the Giants and beat them, the Saints will become the First team to beat all 3 New York football teams on the Saints schedule and in the same season. Note: Mark Sanchez did not throw a single touchdown in th Saints-Jets game. Did you notice that fact? Also Reggie Bush was down on his knees,before the fumble. Check the film."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:25am ET"Earth to Jets fan since 67, who must not have been watching too closely for the last 42 years: MS is the QB. KC gets released after the season. EA is the young back-up who keeps MS honest. One loss to probably the best team in the NFL is no big deal. Were you one of the dudes who told me Eli was a bust for three years? And by the way, KC hasn't performed under pressure as long as he's been a Jet."
TonyR Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:25am ET"Nothing to really get down about, it turns out the Jets offence could have played more conservatively and should have.Jets didn't need to score big even against Brees and the Saints cause our Defence is looking more and more like champions. Lots of rookie mistakes by Sanchez against a super-bowl calibre team on the road, but I think he can learn from this and become much better for it... Go Jets."
TonyR Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:26am ET"Nothing to really get down about, it turns out the Jets offence could have played more conservatively and should have.Jets didn't need to score big even against Brees and the Saints cause our Defence is looking more and more like champions. Lots of rookie mistakes by Sanchez against a super-bowl calibre team on the road, but I think he can learn from this and become much better for it... Go Jets."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:52am ET"More TJ and SG: Denver's got more and for the most part better RBs than us, their "season is on the line" too, and they've had no problem bringing Moreno along to pretty much starting four games in. I'm sure glad we didn't cave and give TJ more $, better to talk to him again in 2010. We still can't seem to decide how much Leon should carry the ball, but SG is clearly the kind of 3rd back we need."
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:59am ET"wow Sanchez bashing already ??? u guys should be ashamed to call urselfs fans !!!! one bad game and u wanna put in Kellen ??? Stupid !!! Hes a Rookie and will learn from his mistakes we are still on pace for atleast a 10-6 season u should be happy our D looked awesome !!!! we held the #1 offense to 10 points !!! Go jets !! we will bounce back next game =)"
Brandon Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:59am ET"wow Sanchez bashing already ??? u guys should be ashamed to call urselfs fans !!!! one bad game and u wanna put in Kellen ??? Stupid !!! Hes a Rookie and will learn from his mistakes we are still on pace for atleast a 10-6 season u should be happy our D looked awesome !!!! we held the #1 offense to 10 points !!! Go jets !! we will bounce back next game =)"
gbgreen Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:09am ET"This is something we all knew would happen. For myself, I figured it could go either way. Sanchez and the Jets will continue to get better. Considering Sanchez will make mistakes..I only have one question: Where is the O line and the running game?"
hammer Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:25am ET"The defense did what it was supposed to do..i dont care how many rushing yards the Saints accumulated, they only scored 10 points. If Sanchez can take this game, learn from it and move on, i dont see a problem. Take away those 14 points he handed the Saints, and the Jets were in this game all the way. Was it just me, or was there ALOT of Saints holding penalties not called?"
MartyD Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:31am ET"one game and already you guys are ready to dump Sanchez!!! give me a break !!!! yes, our guys lost !!!! but it was a good effort considering the lose of key players and the fill ins did well, win or lose I am proud to be a JETS fan !!! and FYI been one since they were the NY TITANS probably longer than some of you have been alive......just call me GRAMPS !!!"
becauseBLINKAremembers Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:54am ET"Hey Jets Fan From 1967: I wish you were on my schedule."
jetfan66 Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:09am ET"I wish I could comment on the game, but I live in upstate New York and apparently Fox Sports felt we wanted to see Dallas vs Denver instead of OUR JETS. Thank You Fox Sports."
aussiejet Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:17am ET"Hey your going to have days like that and the Saints are a very good team this year. Sanchez is a smart kid he will be okay and so will be JETS. Now lets go beat up on the phins, bills and raiders"
Row Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:24am ET"Schotty is on the hot spot. I look to see 200 yards on the ground against the Dolphins. Cannot believe our offensive game plan. Not one shift or any changes on pass protection. They were bringing 8 guys at once! Bright side, TJ, Greene looked awesome. Wandering where Leon is? He hasn't caught a screen all year and he's not returning kickoffs.. Keller didn't help much yesterday. Go Jets vs Phins!"
RookieMistakes Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:35am ET"@jetsfansince67 I recall watching Jay Cutler, a seasoned veteran QB, throw four interceptions in his very first game this year. Since then he's thrown 9 TD's and 1 pick (before yesterday's game). Every QB makes mistakes, and yes Mark made a LOT of them, but don't be a typical NY'er and start screaming for Clemens to come in. Sanchez is the future, just back him up and let's move forward. "
schuyler Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:41am ET"Not a terrible loss, non conference and we all knew this was bound to happen with a rookie under center. Lets give him support and make sure he knows that it's not the end of the world. Go Jets, 4-1 after monday night. "
Saints fan Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:59am ET"Hey dont be be so down it was a good game NFL's best OFF and NFL's Best D every team want to go undefeated but it's just something that don't happend to often , We focus on winning the SuperBowl not just getting there.As a Saints fan I know we will loose eventualy, Jets have a good team and QB give it time to build. Why go undefeated and get knocked the playoffs or loose the SuperBowl"
Alan Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:24am ET"All you guys knocking Sanchez relax, No one was talking crap about him weeks 1-3. KC is not a starter in the NFL, He is what he is a back up. With that D we will win 10+ games we will get to the playoffs"
doubleamktg@gmail.com Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:24am ET"All you guys knocking Sanchez relax, No one was talking crap about him weeks 1-3. KC is not a starter in the NFL, He is what he is a back up. With that D we will win 10+ games we will get to the playoffs"
becauseBLINKAremembers Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:28am ET"JETFAN66 I wish you were on the schedule too. Try tuning into the right network next time."
Harry Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:30am ET"Could jet fan from '67 cut Sanchez some slack. I'm a fan since '63. This guy is a rookie and a smart one at that. He will learn. "
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:38am ET"Okay so this game was a loss. As much as I want to win at least this was the Saints and not some scrub team. Sanchise is a rookie and I expected this to come but the Jets kept the fight in them which I was proud of. We could have won it time to move on to next week. I can't wait for PACE to return I think he would have been an X Factor this game due to him being a sick pass rusher...J-E-T-S"
Anthony Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:43am ET"Defenes did great today. Holding Brees and company to that type of performance was great. We need more push from the Offense and GREENE needs to get carries. Kid is a beast. I think Green and Washington give us a better chance then Jones and Washington. Either way that Bush Catch at the end was incomplete the ball hit the ground. Either way its only 1 lets go crush the fins..."
BriGuyinFL Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:48am ET"Dang, you guys dumping on sanchize already. He had a bad game, yeah. He cost us the game, maybe. Did you think it was easy or he was going to be perfect? I'll take this poor outing against the NFC and he will learn more from this game than any of the 3 previous wins. He is a cool cat. So you see him cool on the sidelines and you bash him for it? he is who he is and he is SANCHIZE!!!"
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:57am ET"yes we have a rookie qb, yes we need to execute better on both sides of the ball, but even with the 14pt spot we were in this game to the end. Defenses learned years ago to beat shotty's short game you load the box, wasnt chad's arm its shotty's unwilliness to expand his game plan cont'"
Tom K Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:09am ET"1. Great D.....playoff bound! 2. Sanchez....will learn ; Schotty needs to set up a plan for quick hitters/ screens/flairs of OPEN receivers ; all teams are now gonna megablitz him until he succeeds with this."
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:22am ET"yes we have a rookie qb, yes we have to execute on both side of the ball, BUT even with the 14pt spot we were in this game to the end. def's learned long ago to stop shotty's short game you load the box, it wasn't just chads arm, it was shotty unwilling to incorporate a deep threat on a consistent basis, we dont need a 50 millon dollar qb to hand the ball off or throw short passes, if you con't"
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:31am ET"con't cant trust his arm or his judgment hes not ready to lead, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO CLEAR THE BOX !!! and besides every bully knows you dont have to deliver on every threat, if they believe you might, a sound running game would have won this game, row is right its on shotty, I hope Rex sees this before injuries start mounting and they might if we keep trying to run into the strengths of defs "
tampajet Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:39am ET"the offence game plan was horrible with the o line just as bad.shotty needs to show me something he got out coached.he needs to find a way to get some o with out trickery."
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:39am ET"on the brite side it was an awesome display by our D, as they cont to shock and awe. the team first mentality , and humility is inspiring, Im loving what Rex Ryan has brought to this team"
Rantin Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:51am ET"I am a Saints fan visiting your site. That was a good defensive battle yesterday. I know most of you think the Saints won only because of the turnovers. The Jets lone touchdown came on a Reggie Bush turnover as well. The difference was the experience at the QB position. Drew Brees stayed clean the whole day and did not feel much pressure. Sanchez had people in his face all day. Good game"
Bigpete Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 10:57am ET"WE NEED TO RUN THE BALL AND PLAY START CLOWNY OPPOSITE COTCHERY!!!! This giving the kid the keys to the car experiment is not what we need to compliment our defense! Im sure Rex will make sure this doesnt happen again.... Shotty is so nieve, shouldve saw this coming last week. More Jones and green, then leon when the defenses gets tired!!!!!"
jak_jetfan Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:02am ET"RookieMistakes....jay cutler played2 poor teams in a row seahawks and lions.. talk about him when they offensively trounce a good team . shon green looked good yesterday. and we all know you will have growing pains with a rookie qb. JETS DEFENSE LOOKS GREAT. AND NEW ORLEANS IS A TOUGH TEAM. ALSO WE GOT THE PRESSURE OF GOING UNDEFEATED OFF OUR BACKS"
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:09am ET"1st Sanchez only gave up 7 points Da Brick gave the old bull fighter to the DE & he had a free shot from behind at Sanchez I dont care who you are if a 300 lb man hits you from behind & you dont know he is coming there is a good shot you are dropping the ball. The pick 6 was 100% Sanchez he has to look off the saftey & stop staring down his WR. We drove all the way down the field on them we should"
Hogan Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:11am ET"He was going to have a game like this. We all knew it and there will be more. The imp. thing is can he rebound. D still looks good, with pace back, it will be even better."
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:12am ET"at least walked away with a field goal on that drive & anyone saying put in Kellen STOP IT NOW THAT IS A JOKE RIGHT? I am not that mad about the game out D held them to 10 points on the road they are supposed to be the best O in the game that says alot without our best pass rusher & with our starting CB & our starting nickle back our dime back Lowery becomes our starter Coleman a bench wamer "
Tom Spicer Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:16am ET"our nickle back & our dime back is someone who should be on the practice squad. When we have Lito, Pace & Strickland back with Lowery moving to the dime we may have the best D in the NFL. "
xtewfik Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:31am ET"why don't we use shonn greene more? he was looking really good."
scjoe Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:36am ET"It is becoming more and more obvious we need a WR opposite JC. Stucky is inconsistent, and B Smith is certainly not the answer. I guess for some reason, that at least I don't understand. Clowney will not get that chance either. I mean c'mon, how much worse can he be? Aside from MS growing pains, the other weakness I still see is punting. Somewhere out there there must be an upgrade."
scjoe Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:47am ET"One observation,if the O line and run D don't pick it up this week, Miami may not be as easy as people are believing. I looked at the stats against Buffalo, six sacks on defense, and once AGAIN over 150 yards rushing. Take note Rex, run D, and O line. Another MS meltdown next week, and we could come out of there with a big "L""
Vincent Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 11:49am ET"We have a rookie QB. We've known that for months, so rubbishing him is stupid. He is a great rookie QB - the operative word being 'rookie', so he will make errors. The O-line? They are not terrible, but they are not great either. Last year they looked great becoz Favre can see the field lightening quick, sense pressure and unload fast. But he also has 20yrs more experience than Sanchez...(cont'd)"
HELLS KITCHEN GREEN AND WHITE Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:01pm ET"LOVE OUR D,GREAT JOB BOYS! NOW TO THE BAD,WHAT IS UP WITH OUR O-LINE? IM THINKING WE THRASH THE COMPETITION EVERY WEEK,BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED. WE HAVE TO FIX THIS,OR WE ARE IN TROUBLE. IF TJ CAN'T RUN,GIVE THE KID GREEN THE ROCK.ALSO,WHY DON'T WE EVER DO SCREEN PLAYS FOR LEON. I'M GOING TO THE MIAMI GAME,WE BETTER STOMP THE FISH! PAY BACK TIME!GREEN AND WHITE FANS NEED TO REPRESENT IN MIAMI!!"
Adam Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:02pm ET"Sanchez had a bad game and he will have a couple of them this season. But I don't think anyone on that O line in patting themselves on the back and pointing fingers at Sanchez. They played terrible as well."
uncle joe Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:08pm ET"Hear come the arguments! All you people who are calling for Sanchez to be benched and blaming Shotty's play calling-the same QB and play calling that beat the Patriots-Should go root for the Giants or something.You people disgust me!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:09pm ET"Uncle Joe, it must be what you're putting in that shrimp! I can't remember this much agreement on the site in a long time. For the most part, no MS bashing (and only one call for KC!) and smart questions about Schotty, the O line, and the use of TJ, Greene, and Leon. I also applaud the comment on Bush's fake catch and yes, the Saints were holding a lot, especially on the grab of MS's face mask. "
Ray Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:28pm ET"Row who are you kidding? TJ one carry for 15 yards and a TD. 12 carries for 33 yards the rest of the game. What part of his game makes you say he's looking good? Greene ran downhill, TJ hasn't broken two tackles all year."
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:37pm ET"Maybe you had a few too many beers after all, Uncle Joe. There's nothing wrong with questions about Schotty. We've scored 74 points this year, that's not a whole lot even against great teams, i.e. in the playoffs, you play great teams. scjoe's first post is a good example of a smart approach to asking where the hell the O is. I said early on we were dreaming to think we'd beat everybody 10-7."
Harv Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:45pm ET"Everyone needs to realize its going to be hard to run the ball cause we do have a rookie a qb. Don't get me wrong i think theO-line can do better but when the other team loads the box it's goin to be hard. Sanchez will get better. Lets not be a team for the year but a team for the years!!!!"
Gary C Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:52pm ET"just some thoughts.memories of Al Toon and concussions when I see jet receivers do 2 yard square ins,send receivers down the field.If the offense tanks this year Mike Martz is in a television studio.Woody needs to be shifted inside next year and jets need to get new right tackle with lateral movement."
Ray Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:54pm ET"Spicer, yes Brick did the ole' block on the strip sack. But Dan Dipdorf was right, he held that ball way too long. His mental alarm clock should have gone off about a second or so earlier on that one. That ones still on him just as much as Brick. We can expect to see this defense every week until we show we can move the ball and score against it. Go Jets! Squish the Fish!"
Samora Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:02pm ET"Sanchez is good, but he ball in his hands too much. Tom Jones and Leon Washington just came off of pro-bowl seasons & Greene is a solid back, yet we don't keep it on the ground and maintain possession. Between the three of them, we should be able to tally almost 300 yards on the ground. How come we don't milk the clock and drive rather than toss up prayers? Let's keep the faith Jets Nation."
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:09pm ET"hey uncle joe, why did SD fire shotty, need a clue? same reason we're questioning him now. teams have loaded the box on the Jets now for years and we still have'nt come up with an answer for it !!! just look at Breese and the difference under a superb O coach . "
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:45pm ET"Thanks for weighing in on the RBs, Ray. Every game inc. exhib so far TJ has been like 11 for 13 and then he gets a longer run, but only with a hole big enough to drive a truck through. We need all the help we can get with running and on O in general. Also agree with Gary C on those stupid 2-yard square-ins, this doesn't look at all like the team that threw downfield so well against HOU and NE. "
IRISH JET Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:53pm ET"HEY ERIC,WHEN DO WE FIND OUT HOW BAD DAMIEN WOODY'S INJURY IS? IS LITO,AND STRICKLAND EXPECTED TO BE BACK THIS WEEK?NICE ARTICLE"
Randy Lange Said:
"Irish Jet, Rex Ryan did not address Damien Woody's injury at today's news conference and didn't commit to Lito Sheppard and Donald Strickland returning for Miami. We'll know more Wednesday."
Ray Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 3:55pm ET"ddh, while I agree Schotty may be part of the problem. He wasn't fired in SD, that was his dad. And he was Brees QB coach in SD no less. I thought he was supposedly "handcuffed" last year under Favre, and yet, he still calls these unimaginable passes on third and short. I'll stick with my opinion from last year, Schotty is incapable of running a pound and ground offense."
jets fan since 67 Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:35pm ET"Well I see its ok for the rookie to hand the other team a win but you all have to admit and trust me I remember when KC did the same thing you were all ready to fire him also.... Whats the Difference. There isnt any difference. I hope that after KC becomes a free agent and he is signed to another team he comes back and makes you all eat your words.... I will be a jets fan forever but this kid"
ddh Said:
Mon, October 5, 2009 - 7:48pm ET"Ray, thank you I did get that mixed up, "
Jimmy C Said:
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:31am ET"I think what shows character is that although the defense looked really good they didn't blame the offense, or Sanchez, for the loss. They owned up to their mistakes (the few that there were) and want to improve to be even better. I am excited, I think by the end of the year, the only points the Jets will need to win is a Jay Feely field goal!"
Ray Said:
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 3:07pm ET"'67 jet fan, you will probably get your wish, KC will sign somewhere else. As for him coming back and making us regret we let him go.....doubt it. He is what he is, a backup. He had his chance this year and showed he's not worthy. Sorry you don't see that."
Row Said:
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 6:53pm ET"Ray, it doesn't matter, but KC never had a chance. I completely agree Schotty is incapable of running a ground and pound offense. We have one of the best FB's ever. TJ is still a stud, even Leon isn't getting yards. You have to give offensive problems to the OC. With what Sanchez had to work with, I'm not surprised he didn't have 5 or 6 TO's. So far 5 fumbles, 5 INT's, 2 pick 6's MUST BE FIXED!!!"
Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 12:27am ET"Ray, you don't always get the ideal chance in this or any other game. KC's was this summer and he needed to blow MS off the field. Instead he looked weak-to-fair so there was no point holding MS back. I'd rather let MS take some lumps this year and display that much more confidence next year when the Jets draft for all or mostly O. And you're right that our O isn't exactly helping MS out so far."
Ray Said:
Wed, October 7, 2009 - 3:25am ET"Row I wouldn't say KC never had a chance, but he definitely had to outplay MS by alot to have won that competition. I actually like TJ alot, but he is not running with any authority. Maybe Greene needs a few more plays. All of MS problems are correctable. But it starts with Schotty and the O line."
Big O Said:
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 10:41pm ET"To all you "football analyst and experts" dogging MARK SANCHEZ, would you KILL THE NOISE, this rookie is playing like a VET that has been in the game for 3 to 5 years and he has one bad game and you want to start dogging him. I am from Queens but I promise you it is hard to play in New York, we dont give our teams or our players a chance, lets boost them up instead of tear them down! Sheeez!"
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Michael C Said:
Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:49pm ET"It was a hard fought game a lot of mental mistakes on behalf of Mr. Sanchez but it is a good lesson to be learned. Jets werent gonna have a fairytail season but a good season they will have and they will make the playoffs. Make some adjustments and lets come back next week with a chip on our shoulder and get that W back on our side"
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