Some QB Numbers and a List to Chew On

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Some QB Numbers and a List to Chew On

Published: Wed, August 26, 2009 - 4:10pm ET
Randy Lange

By Randy Lange

Lange is editor-in-chief of newyorkjets.com. He covered the Jets for 13 years for The Record of Hackensack, N.J.


File Under: Joe Namath, Kellen Clemens, Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Dick Jamieson

08/26 — Rex Ryan said a mouthful when he talked about how even the QB competition went between Mark Sanchez and Kellen Clemens this off-season and preseason.

“I don’t think there was a clear-cut winner statistically,” he said. “Statistically, they were very similar, whether you were tracking throws in preseason games, on the practice field or whatever.”

You can massage the stats this way and that — How many reps did each get with the first offense, how many with the twos? And we aren’t privy to the practice statistics kept by the Jets coaches for the QBs’ accuracy in 7-on-7 and team drills.

Here are some passing statistics and drive rates from the first two preseason games:

 PASSING    Att    Cmp   Pct     Yds  Y/A TD-Int Sacks Rate
 Mark Sanchez 12 6 50.0 131 10.9 1-1 1-6 82.3
 Kellen Clemens 14 9 64.3 84 6.0 1-1 1-3 74.7

 DRIVES  No OPs DrvYds Yds/Drv   TOP   T/Drv   Pts Pts/Drv
 Mark Sanchez 6 33 189 31.5 16:28 2:44 14 2.3
 Kellen Clemens 8 33 150 18.8 17:22 2:10 13 1.6

The bottom line, though, is that naming a QB is not only a quantitative but a qualitative determination. Ryan said he wasn’t ready to do that when he was asked about the competition at the podium in the visitors’ interview room at M&T Bank Stadium minutes after Monday night’s game.

“I think I’m doing the right thing for this organization — I know I am. That’s what my heart tells me,” he said today. “Last night was when I really made that decision. I wasn’t ready to make it right after the game. I never thought it was appropriate to go in front of the national media. I wasn’t ready to do that. I wanted to put some more thought into it.

“But I’m very comfortable with my decision right now.”

Rookie Starters in Season Openers?

Needless to say, Sanchez hasn’t taken his first pro regular-season snap yet, but assuming he does take that snap on the Jets’ first offensive play at Houston on Sept. 13, he will join Baltimore's Joe Flacco and Atlanta's Matt Ryan as rookies who started in their teams' season openers.

Sanchez will also become the first pure rookie QB to start a season in franchise history. Joe Namath was the closest to first earning that distinction, getting his first start in the third game of the 1965 season.

But this discussion merits an asterisk for Dick Jamieson. Remember him? He was the starter in the very first game in franchise history, when the New York Titans hosted the Buffalo Bills at the Polo Grounds in 1960. Jamieson was drafted by Philadelphia in 1959 but never played for the Eagles, so by today’s terminology he would’ve been a first-year player when he got the nod from Titans coach Sammy Baugh.

Here is the list of all rookies and first-year QBs to start in their first pro seasons as Jets/Titans:

 Season Quarterback 1st Start Tot Starts
 1960 Dick Jamieson Game 1 1
 1964 Pete Liske Game 14 1
 1965 Joe Namath Game 3 9
 1973 Bill Demory Game 5 3
 1975 J.J. Jones Game 13 1
 1976 Richard Todd Game 8 6
 1977 Matt Robinson Game 11 1
 1987 David Norrie Game 3 2

A Fine Day at Practice

Because of the crush of quarterback business today, we've forgone a practice blog as such. But a short highlight reel would include Sanchez's nice deep slant to Jerricho Cotchery, bringing applause from the fans, several interesting plays by WR David Clowney (one Sanchez overthrow of a sure TD, one Clowney drop, one nice low grab), a leaping Kerry Rhodes interception of Erik Ainge followed by a hard landing followed by Rhodes bouncing up a few seconds later and continuing to work, two strong Ainge-to-Huey Whittaker completions, and a 52-yard field goal to end practice and show that Jay Feely's groin is feeling A-OK. Also, RT Damien Woody, NT Kris Jenkins and CB Darrelle Revis worked with their first units.

The fans were very much a part of this practice — 2,614 showed up and ringed the two grass practice fields the Jets used today. Thursday's practice is the last of the summer that will open to fans, and the forecast is for even nicer weather (high of 82). Parking lots will open again at 10 a.m. for a practice that should start at 11:50 and until about 1:30.

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duane Said:

Thu, August 27, 2009 - 8:37pm ET

"waiting on a miracle"

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Jets Fan Since '64 Tom Said:

Thu, August 27, 2009 - 11:03pm ET

"Shep, to me you just revealed the emperor's new clothes: Who ever thought Smith has any natural gift for WR? I sure don't see it yet. Frankie, I'm with ya on MS vs. them other QBs. Row, I think this is a big discussion over a few margaritas. I had the same reaction re Rex's "chance to win" stuff. But I also knew he never had any reason to go out on a limb for KC unless KC just looked unstoppable."

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Anonymous Said:

Thu, August 27, 2009 - 11:42pm ET

"To chime in on the MS topic, i have to agree with many others out there, KC never out played him and MS has a much greater upside. KC has been in the league for 4 years now and isn't any better then MS. So clearly starting MS is better for the team in the long run. By naming MS the starter he will get much more playing time this week and a chance to build up chemistry with the very young wr's."

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